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Pardew – It’s Damaging If We Drop Out Of The Top Ten

11:36 pm, Sunday, April 20th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 46 Comments

Alan Pardew is now under pressure that is increasing with every new defeat, and on Saturday we lost our 5th game in a row, and the record of Newcastle over the last 18 games is simply appalling, and we have lost 13 of them, and won only four times.

laughing mike ashley

Mike Ashley – on vacation in Florida right now

The powers that be at Newcastle have said they will judge Pardew at the end of the season, and we suppose it depends on whether we meet the pre-season target of a top ten finish, and while some weeks ago that looked like a foregone conclusion, that is not the case right now.

Crystal Palace have won their last five games while Newcastle have been losing their last five games, so with three games to go Palace are only 3 points behind us and Stoke City are only two points behind us.

It could be that Mike Ashley could fire Pardew if in fact we do finish in 11th place, and/or we lose all of our last three games.

This is what Alan Pardew said about Newcastle finishing in 10th place:

“I think they are very important to us for our state of mind as a club,’ ‘It would be damaging for us to drop out of the top 10 and I would like to think we will still secure that.”

“People who know me will know I stand up for myself but I have to do it in the right manner.” “I am a manager of a very big club here and I have to take responsibility when we lose.”

Pardew may be the manager of a big club – but the truth is we are looking very small at the moment, and to have Crystal Palace finish above us in the league would be embarrassing to say the least, since with 8 games to go they were 18 points behind us.

So it’s very important for both the club and particularly for manager Alan Pardew, that we don’t lose all three games,  and of course we will probably lose at least two of them.

Arsenal have some of their top players back like Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil, and they are playing very well,  and to go to Liverpool on the final day of the season, when Liverpool could have already won the league for the first time since 1990, is a frightening thought – to say the least. :(

So our best chance is to beat Cardiff City in a couple of weeks at home, but we really should have been able to beat Swansea, but they ended up beating us, for their first away in the last 12 attempts.

And Cardiff beat us at home in January, and they beat Southampton away last weekend, and these teams are fighting like crazy – and it cannot be said that this current Newcastle United side are – they don’t seem to be bothered.

That’s the sad truth, and we just have to hope for the good of the club, that we can get at least one win before the end of the season.

But that will not be easy.

Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Premier League

46 responses so far ↓

  • 1 santonthenewmaldini // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Arsenal are going to pound us next Monday and then Cardiff will beat us …. Then comes the slaughtering at Anfield

  • 2 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    It will be a goal fest blood-bath on the last game of the season. The Arsenal score could be whatever the please if they score early. Especially as they’re chasing Champions League. Alan could set even more records.

  • 3 NewcastleMole // Apr 20, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    “I think they are very important to us for our state of mind as a club,’ ‘It would be damaging for us to drop out of the top 10 and I would like to think we will still secure that.”

    It will be damaging to the players & staff bonus eh Alan?

    Don’t mug us off.

  • 4 beefman13 // Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10 AM

    Very important Alan for your bank balances, it nauseates me to think each member of our squad could pick up a reported months wages for that absolute dross we have seen, toon target this toon target that, what a load of old gonads!!!!!

  • 5 Sav // Apr 21, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    Buying players based on who happens to be cheap or free and at the same time selling whenever a big price is offered regardless of key players or difficult timing has led Newcastle to where we are now. Its like making a meal of whatever left-overs happen to be in the fridge – you probably won’t starve but it ain’t going to be Masterchef. Bottom line, that is our problem – that and an owner who just couldn’t give a toss. Ironically, now that the big TV money has kicked in, I can’t see any easy solution or any way to get this monkey off our back.

  • 6 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2014 at 12:51 AM

    I think that’s true. The greater amount of money in the game will just be absorbed by transfer fees, agents cuts and wages, that we are loathe to pay. Things could get worse.

  • 7 MacToon // Apr 21, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    Why do I put myself through this.

    I’ve avoided listening to Pardew over the last 12 months but reading what he’s said is no better. He, like Ashley, is treating each and everyone of us like mugs and 51,057 minus the away support, took it with no more than a whimper of dissatisfaction.

    Miss out on your bonus? That should be the case anyway.
    14-17K non-renewal of season tickets, should be 100%

  • 8 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2014 at 12:59 AM

    Pardews the one that needs the f@cken holiday. Will he get the break he sorely needs with this apparently active and all important off season fast approaching. I think stress and exhaustion have played a significant part in his and as a result the teams woes also.

  • 9 Fostino // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:26 AM

    my team of the year

    de gea

    coleman skretel kompany baines

    sterling ramsey yaya hazard

    sturridge suarez

    manager: rodgers

  • 10 lesh // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:30 AM

    jimmysmith…. You’re taking a very balanced, reasonable and fair view of Pardew’s position at the club.

    He is under so much pressure and he’ll not be able to relax over the close season.

    He takes a break and the fans are on his back for not being around. What can he silver the close-down? Nowt! Chat let’s the one to deal with the transfers, assuming that agreements have been made over leavers and potential joiners.

    But, jimmysmith, there is the small matter of Pardew being up to coaching, tactics and managing games on the day. They make up his Achilles heel and one must wonder whether in his three years with us, he’s proved to be up to it.

    Has he?

  • 11 lesh // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:33 AM

    lets try again….. What can he really do during the close-down? Nowt! Charnley’s the one to deal with the transfers, assuming that agreements have been made over leavers and potential joiners.

  • 12 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:44 AM

    Lesh, I think its hard to judge Pardew fairly as a coach and tactician or even manager because he hasn’t been adaquately backed. I’d say he’s worth persevering with for one more season because of the vast experience he’s garnered in the job over the last 3 years and because a better alternative seems unlikely under Ashley. I think he needs a better deeper squad at his disposal and some tactical help.

    Ferguson, among many top managers for example, had great coaches he would delegate training to. Pardew hasn’t, as far as I can tell.

  • 13 mattnufc // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:47 AM

    For me, Kompany has made too many mistakes. I’d have Mertesacker instead.
    Sterling has only been good recently and I would pick Lallana.
    And I’d have Begovic or Lloris in net.

  • 14 banjax // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    That’s right Pards, keep talking yourself out a job. Maybe some of these stupid, pointless and moronic outbursts will actually get you sacked. Apart from a command of English that requires an interpreter, the excuses keep flowing straight past the supporters and down the drain where they belong. Your record speaks for itself, that is why we want you out Pardew. Your not good enough to manage our great club !

  • 15 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    But if it’s gonna be more of the same from Ashley, well really what does it matter anyway, unless by some miracle Ashley unearths a great young manager/coach to make gold where there’s lead, which seems highly unlikely.

  • 16 beefman13 // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:01 AM

    While MA is here he will keep,Pardew, better the devil you know, because MA is capable of bringing just about any nodding monkey in, the mind boggles!!!!

  • 17 jimmysmith // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM

    Of course I’d be the first to admit that despite watching the games, following the club in the press and via the views of others on the blog, I don’t have any real confidence in my own views regarding our situation, since it is seemingly so bizarre and mysterious.

  • 18 Blofal // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:36 AM

    Im not 3ven sure I would want Sherwood. He hasn’t done wonders with Spurs. They are about where they should be given their players.

  • 19 mindshaft // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:40 AM

    Arsenal 4-0 toon
    Toon 1-2 Cardiff
    Bindippers 9-0 toon

    Pard’s still in toon managers job next season

  • 20 mindshaft // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:43 AM

    Manager of the year has to be Pulis, like him or loathe him he has taken the worst side in the Prem that were certs for relegation to mid table safety with 3 games to spare

  • 21 mindshaft // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:44 AM

    Tho and obviously Rodgers and bindippers will win all the awards given that the media love em

  • 22 Scottishmag1 // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:37 AM

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  • 23 theartfuldodger // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:45 AM

    Players and Pardew will give up bonuses to get on the good side of the fans.

  • 24 cyprus // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    I’ll give AP this, he is no quitter. Does he really think he can change it around? I mean, the team looks like they just met, there’s no cohesion, no idea what to do in set plays, a sub takes our kicks, we depend on individual moments of brilliance, we get outplayed by all teams and we look like we are hanging on. Painful yesterday to hear the commentators call Swansea the ‘footballing side’…

    There must only be one scenario. MA has promised, written or orally, that he keeps his job if he stays in the top 10. The talk that MA wants us to be average is rubbish, surely even those that write it must realise it doesn’t make any sense. “Let’s play crap so I don’t have to pay bonuses. Let’s be rubbish so I can spite the Geordies! All I want is to promote the SD brand through all this negative publicity. Get in!”

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:07 AM

    Cyprus…I am expecting Parsnip to wall when we finish outside 10 th.

    …if he doesn’t walk and NoNuts doesn’t sack him then we deserve this – it is not like us fans want to get our hands dirty anyway (season tickets are much more important to us)

  • 26 cyprus // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM

    That’s the thing: does he have to walk? Can’t MA just ‘push’ him with a million or two in his pocket? How expensive is this contract? And he has accepted losses in favour of firing someone now (see Barton, there was at least a 3 mil. fee on him, despite the baggage)

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:25 AM

    Cyprus…even the link about prize money/tv money seems to indicate it would be the cheaper option to get rid of Parsnip?

    …and it is not even taking in to consideration the drop of value by more or less the whole squad :(

  • 28 cyprus // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:30 AM

    That’s why the ‘it’s all about money’ thing doesn’t make sense. Plus, we are dropping like a stone so the position money is decreasing. They must actually be friends or something. :( The gambling debt thing must of course be a myth. Why throw more money at a bad deal.

  • 29 Big B // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:32 AM

    I hope we finish outside the top ten so no one gets there bonus they don’t deserve

  • 30 theartfuldodger // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:34 AM

    If Pardew was to walk he should have done that 3 games or so after cabaye sale.
    If he walks now it shows other clubs that he is a quitter. He quit cause the team were playing crap and not cabayes sale.

    Is there much left to talk and discuss..

    Btw good post Jesper..The club isnt a democracy that you can vote Ashley out. There needs to be some force , dissent or manipulation.

  • 31 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:36 AM

    Cyprus…the strange thing is NoNuts seems to have no problem firing people before whether it’s Newcastle or SD?

    …business and friendship should never be mixed – especially when money is involved.

  • 32 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    Artful…I think Parsnip’s value in the eyes of a potential new club have dropped rapidly!

    …TS and I talked about this in Feb. where I suggested Parsnip should have walked. He could leave with his dignity intact and pressure would be on NoNuts!

    …but now all that is gone ! Him not wanting to quit just pisses us fans off. There is no relationship left to salvage – he knows that I think but just wants his compensation.

    I say give it to him and lets move on!

  • 33 Lynny // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:48 AM

    My Mam and Dad have property in Goa. Were over in december and Me Fatha got talking to the editor of the times over there. Said Pardew wont be given a penny to spend in January and said We’d get De Jong in on loan. Said the reason for the no money was because De Mateo was coming in as Our new gaffa in the summer with Pardew going upstairs. Said it was already signed and sealed. Said He would be given in excess of £100m to spend too. And said He couldnt take a hob till this summer or He wouldnt get any more money off Chelski! Aye whatever I said. Then role on Pardews antics since…… Then De Mateo released a statement saying He’s ready for management again and My brain starts grafting a bit….. £100 isnt that much in MA terms when You put it into player plus 3 year salery plus agent fees etc? What’ll that get You? 5 decently priced players? What do yous think?

  • 34 cyprus // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM

    Business and friendship should never be mixed. True, to a point. (It makes sense, of course, but there are counterarguments, believe it or not: issues of trust, self sacrifice etc… 75% of world businesses are described as family businesses…)

    And, friendships happen at work, whether we want to or not.

    But I agree with your point: fire him already :O)

  • 35 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    Lenny…this conspiracy theory is just ad good as the next one!

    …I honestly don’t know anymore – I have stopped looking for a reason cause there is no reason…okay I starting to sound like a Boomtown Rat song 😉 lol

  • 36 cyprus // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    Thanks for making me look up Goa! Smallest Indian state, 1.5 mil pop, 20,000 history and beautiful! Still, I doubt a provincial editor would know too much about NUFC. Yet, he’s definitely an intelligent man, he made some correct calls there. Hope he’s right on Di Mateo. He’s a CL winner after all.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    May or may not be true, do people who say Fatha really strike up conversations with the editor of the times.

  • 38 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    Cyprus…family and business is a tough nut as well, but better than bringing friend in to equation I think :)

  • 39 stan anderson // Apr 21, 2014 at 8:11 AM

    Pardew should,ve lost his job after the nutting incident at Hull.
    The fact he is still here means he is with us for the full term of his contract,Whoppee.
    Dont buy crap off the Fatman,,dont but season tickets,he will still want to fill the ground so if you have to go, buy your tickets per match,we got to do something .

  • 40 stan anderson // Apr 21, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    Buy .sorry.

  • 41 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 8:22 AM

    Morning all,

    So, another defeat, another Pardew interview and another Ashley….holiday.

    Who wants to bet that Ashley was up nice and early to watch the game on a stream? :)

    I would love to believe, but I just can’t see what could happen over the next 3 games could provide that would alter Ashleys views on what he’ll do next.

    Either he has got a plan to change Pardew or he doesn’t. Whilst I don’t blame everything on Pardew, it is time for him to move on, the relationship is far too toxic now and I don’t know how it is ever repaired.

    Last summer was a huge opportunity for Ashley to show some ambition, the best we could muster up was a fitness coach. Once again he is being served another opportunity to at least pretend he has some footballing ambition for the club.

    Lynny…£100m? Sterling? Not a hope in hell. If Ashley had wanted to overhaul the team that much he would have been more active in the past windows rather than leaving us with so much work to do in one window, which conveniently coincides with the WC.

  • 42 Ian Toon // Apr 21, 2014 at 8:56 AM

    Reading the many postings for fans to stop watching our homes games is just plain whistling in the wind – to paraphrase. Those of us toon fans who have regularly travelled the English football circuit, mixing with fans of all club colours, and gauging their views, readily acknowledge the respect for Newcastle’s following, home and away. That despite the vocal home support receding for some months
    at SJP. The Toon Army at West Ham with the visionary Yohan Cabaye giving a superb farewell appearance were accompanied by Newcastle fans never stopping singing. For me the highlight on the road this season. Albeit some peaked too soon.

    I first went as a five year old with my father and grandfather to SJP( in 1993)and looking back to those halcyon days it really was a special place, an arena that made the pulse quicken when the teams came out and the roar that erupted from countless fans throats. It was a great time to become a member of the toon army and I still feel honoured today about my birthright. When it comes to being a fan and watching winning,talented teams, what goes around comes around.

    I recalled this past week over a few pints with mates/ fans, us being at Alan Shearer’s testimonial and what a magnificent time it was because of the outpouring of love for a local hero while also painfully poignant. The absence of Shearer’s name from the team sheet certainly destroys much of the lingering class clinging to the club. I am often reminded by older fans that football didn’t start with the Premier League. I had a recent conversation with an elderly Spurs fan who suggested that Greaves and Shearer would be the best striking combination for England since the Second World

    A die-hard Toon disciple of my acquaintance, someone who’s opinion I respect, is convinced that the club will only be transformed from the Ashley stranglehold when supporters show their dissatisfaction with empty seats. No queues in the SD stores might focus a few minds in the boardroom.

    It will never happen. Following Newcastle is a birthright, a religion. On the Geordie list of things to do watching the Toon ranks alongside breathing. Such loyalty merits better communication and leadership. What goes around comes around. You know it makes sense. Those on holiday today enjoy your day off.

  • 43 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    in today’s footballers mindset there are a few things there looking for

    the footballer with goals to achieve , ie RVP, could have stayed at ARS but chose to leave for the chance of winning things,

    these players are rare

    the players that want money , and lots of it,
    Rooney tops the bill here for me , but it can be levied against pretty much most players, these players are just leaches,

    the player that wants to go to a big club, even as a bench warmer , cabaye, Ba , these types if player , they will move to a smaller club to become the big fish there , show they have the tallent to make it then move to the big club , sitting on the bench will get a few games , more money and maybe a trophy or 2

    us as a club WILL NOT pay a big transfer fee , even with this new deal in place we will be looking for very cheap players to “improve them”

    we WILL NOT pay the going salary rates ,

    we ARE NOT wanting to win anything “cups”

    so it baffles me as to who we are going to sign, it’s ok AP coming out and saying the fans should be excited at who we are trying to sign, that is an empty statement trying too fool the masses AGAIN, players like remy cabella will never sign for us , he is at a club with more ambition than ours already, and when you have the likes of crystal palace , stoke , willing to pay more salary or teams like Everton who will offer Europe , we will be petty low Down on this type of players list of clubs to join

    we are now the white elephant in the league, good players will want to avoid us unless we are the last choice/chance for them to play in the premiership,

    right now out club is cursed , it has 3 things wrong ,
    1 owner
    2 manager
    3 fans,
    when I sit and think about it , I am more disheartend by the way the fans are just accepting it, at any other point in our history there would have been lots done about it, but right now Ashley’s mouth piece has done some sort of Jedi mind trick on them to keep turning up and say nothing, hand over your money mug, no please or thank even , and they just do it

    with this crew in charge , WE WILL be relegated next season , it’s now 2 seasons in a row where we have had relegation form for the second half of the season , I fear our better players will go in the summer to be replaced crap no fight in them type of players like Williamson Elliotte , who are simply not good enough, as long as they tow the line

    yipeeee , or baarrrr take your pick

  • 44 funguswatty // Apr 21, 2014 at 9:05 AM

    hope we do finish out the top then then so numpty gets the sack and get some one with a better knowledge of game and better tactics

  • 45 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Apr 21, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    I am just waiting for the season to end , the shame is that we were flying until the Jan Transfer window ?

    What is coming in the summer no-one knows plus all the promises of Players bought and investment to me are just Empty Promises. I just don,t believe anything on here or what is reported in the press anymore?

    I think we are in for the drop next year big time, it Pains me to say it but i just can,t see us getting any points from our games left and around the WK will come the mass exodus and the Cheap Loanee,s and Free,s !

    The thing is we have, or so think a lot of people a lot of Talent in the Squad but our Trainer and coaching Staff are just unable to get them to Gel as a team.

    This coupled with the Owner who just don,t care as long as our Prem status is preserved, basically i think its going to take a Major Overhaul from the Top downwards to cure this, if indeed its curable?

    Empty Stadiums and Empty SD shops would probably help but heh does anyone seriously believe that something like that will ever happen because i don,t !

    I have never felt such a sinking feeling watching what Mata and Manure did to us in the Manchester game from the Gallowgate end ! The Only Plus was when Hatem came on, but he will be gone in the summer for sure? To a club where there is more investment and more Ambition and where the Support actually back the Team on the Pitch.

    I came back home to Holland totally gutted and disappointed, after what was a good week-end visiting the North-East where i was and a Childhood Dream Gone! Winning anything , a cup or even a top four finnish is a fast dying dream!

    The last time i actually saw the Lads play the Four corners of the Stadium were all open! The last few games of the season against The Gooners and The Scousers will be more like Cricket scores?

    Having missed the 90,s because of building a life for myself here as an Expat. The heart and soul has been ripped out of the club, its like nothing i,ve ever experienced before at St James, you can build your church, fill it with worshippers but if there is no Faith then nothing will be achieved !

    What i saw a few weeks ago was the complete opposite of what i expected , but have no fear, we will be back!

  • 46 bobby mango // Apr 21, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    I’ve never seen a club nose dive like this before and the players must take some of the blame but really I look to the management and coaching staff… How could they not work out a way to pick a couple of draws at least, a dirty win. Something? No we just rolled over.

    Maybe if we learnt to play set pieces (attacking and defensive) properly we could do a little better.

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