Newcastle had lost four games on the trot before the Swansea game on Saturday, but 51,000 fans still turned up for the game, and although Newcastle again did not play very well, the fans kept with the team until the end – the end being when Swansea scored a last minute penalty to make Alan Pardew the first Newcastle manager ever to lose five Premier League games in a row.
Mike Ashley – singularly unsuccessful as Newcastle owner
And last season we lost five of six league games on one of our bad runs that ended when Everton beat us 2-1 at home in the first game of last year.
So our record over the last two seasons has hardly been good – in fact apart from the first 18 games this season, when we did very well and gained 33 points, we’ve looked like a relegation side.
That’s not an opinion – that’s based on the facts.
We have lost 17 games this season and that’s how many we lost all of last season when we were 5th bottom, and we have only 5 points more than last season at the moment, and it’s going to be hard to add any more than 3 points to that total.
Here’s the Newcastle league record over the last two season.
Played Won Draw Lost GF GA GD Points 38 9 12 17 45 68 -23 41 35 14 4 17 39 54 -15 46 73 23 16 34 84 122 -38 97
And we will not even go into how we have done in the local Cup competitions over the last two seasons.
We have improved on our goals against tally this season, and the goal difference is a little bit better – but over a full season the records over the last two seasons would give us around 12 wins,eight draws and 18 losses, for a points total of 44 – which would see us in the bottom ten.
And we will not score as many goals as we did last season.
So while it looked like this season was going to be a (very) good one, we may not finish in the top ten, and the record is not too much better than it was last season.
And seeing both Liverpool and Everton coming away so well this season is even harder to take, since we now seem to be miles behind the top six clubs in England – the two Manchester clubs. Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea.
And Everton and Southampton may also be ahead of Newcastle these days.
It’s simply not good enough for Newcastle United, as Mathieu Debuchy pointed out after the game on Saturday, and the way my son Neil deals with all of this is he’s just waiting for the summer and has given up on this season.
That’s interesting because that’s what most of Newcastle’s players have done also – given up on this season – and watching Newcastle’s games this season has been very (very) painful.
Now the question is what is the owner going to do about it in the summer?
That’s the big question – and we just have to hope Mike gets an injection of enthusiasm and ambition for Newcastle, because in the last seven years we have had only one top ten finish.
And if he doesn’t want to make Newcastle United great again – why did he ever buy the club in the first place?
For fun?
130 responses so far ↓
1 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:04 PM
Repost:
Rotonda heights
Hopefully. If Mike Ashley trusts Graham Carr with players, hopefully he can trust him with asking him to list candidates with best experience of getting best out of technical and most importantly young players.
Mike wouldn’t of put millions into youth for no reason.
Thinking about it, Frank De Boer is realistic as he will work under strict conditions.
2 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:05 PM
bandB
Imagine if you are an Armstrong or Campbell and the choice of a Martinez, ie developing Delafeo, Barkley and Stones or a dinosaur like Pardew !!
3 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM
Turkish
Not all managers are high maintenance. Some could actually use the players we have and make them look good, not totally demoralised or shunned and ostracised as some of them are now.
4 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Turkish – What’s this about Pardew?
Rotonda – German for certain, there are a number of promising young coaches out there who would fit the bill. We need someone with a vision and some intelligence. When you hear the likes of Martinez speak it is a farcry away from what Pardew bleats out. Difference is Martinez is an intelligent bloke whereas Pardew isn’t.
5 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM
Rotonda
Yes exactly which is why I most importantly believe that Mike Ashley will hire a good manager to get the most out of technical players and shuffle the staff as well.
This can lead to bringing through youths and he will make more money from it, makes sense.
Also the only yes man puppet was Pardew, he was like that at his previous clubs as well.
Mike Ashley gave spending power to previous managers and obviously he doesn’t trust Pardew.
6 scout // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM
How is he still in a job?????
Cant believe that about the training ground the players must be off today surely
7 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM
Also hope to God the Tim Sherwood link is utter crap. He’s my second most disliked manager in the league after Pardew. Loves the sound of his own voice and does anything for an interview, not to mention he talks crap and is another poor manager.
8 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM
Scout
DailyMail saying Mike Ashley in Florida (article linking us with Tim Sherwood) but how are they so sure? Last time I checked he has a very private life unless he gets drunk and does stupid stuff again..
9 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:20 PM
Geremi
That Tim Sherwood link is bullsh!t.
Mike Ashley would be a very big stupid fool to make that mistake. He’s spending millions on youth academy and technical players.
At this point, only a good manager makes sense to get full potential and get youths to first team and sold for big profits.
10 theartfuldodger // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:21 PM
I really do want Pardew to go.
At the same time I do feel a bit sorry for him. He has got very little support from the owner. He chose to defend the owner instead of distance himself from club decisions and transfers. He is a limited manager we know, football wise but he has been treated pathetically by the same owner who he defends time and time again.
Damn it..he is not going is he ..
11 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM
Very interesting listening to Leighton Baines yesterday saying that under Martinez they think more about how they can hurt and impose themselves on the opposition rather than worry about them. That’s a proper footballing philosophy, not the ”containing”, defensive, negative dirge from Pardew.
We haven’t registered a solitary goal in 12 of the last 16 games!!
12 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:24 PM
David Moyes reportedly sacked as well.
13 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:28 PM
artful
It’s entirely pardew’s decision to do things like split up Willo and MYM when on form, play Ben Arfa in short cameos out of position and expected to track back more than create and drop Marveaux (more assists than Cabaye) out of the picture altogether.
No fan of Ash but I don’t think Pards has been treated quite as badly as he makes out. Pardew’s just been found out again like every club he’s ever been at. Like Allardyce he can’t or won’t update himself and is still stuck in the 80s.
14 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:30 PM
Turkish – Where are you getting all of this?
15 mag // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM
Pardew has just been given a job that’s completely out of his league and Ashley should be ashamed of himself for dragging the soap opera on for ages.
16 mag // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:33 PM
Liverpool have scored 50 goals in 2014 and NUFC have scored 10, Shocking!
17 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM
Turkish
This is doing my heed in !!!
18 mag // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:37 PM
When have Newcastle United been unable to score goals, we’ve always leaked them.
19 mag // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM
If Ashley is astute as he leads everyone else to believe then surely he’s formulating Planb for the summer?
20 bobby mango // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM
Sack him and all the coaches. They are completely useless.
The 5th finish was a fluke… Even then we didn’t pay good football or dominate teams.
Our record without Remy shows how completely one dimensional we are.
The list of embarrassing results we’ve suffered under Pardew is shameful.
Our set pieces are conference quality.
21 mag // Apr 21, 2014 at 2:45 PM
The diagonal long high balls to the statuesque Mike Williamson are the most embarrassing examples of 3rd rate coaching witnessed at SJP.
22 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Just to add:
No way David Moyes is coming to Newcastle as next manager. He failed to motivate players and the results on the pitch provided he was not the right man for Man United.
23 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:09 PM
Turkish…Did those sacking rumours (Pardew and Moyes) come from the same place?
24 geordie1892 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:10 PM
People wanting Pardew out are 100% right, he should be sacked with the record over the last 2 seasons. Fair enough he hasn’t been backed with any new players this season except Remy on loan and yes we have lost cabaye but a better manager would have adapted our style of play to cope with this loss.
My biggest concern is if Pardew goes who will replace him. Obviously there are some excellent candidates and many names have been thrown about but let’s be honest under Ashley we will end up with someone like Alan Curbishley
25 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM
If Man U are sacking Moyes then surely that means we can follow suit. PLEASE!?
26 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:12 PM
Eds first sentence says it all “50000 still turned up”. What pressure is there for Fatash to change things? Hes probably hoping for an 11th finish so he doesnt have to pay out the bonusus.
When people vote with their feet will see a change – chances of this is zero !
27 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:16 PM
1892…Who would come in next is a worry. Some great names have been thrown about, although I have my reservations about whether they would come to Newcastle, let alone to work for Ashley.
My biggest issue is that it is well known Ashley doesn’t like to be challenged. I can’t see him hiring an outspoken manager that wouldn’t direct the flak away from Ashley.
Still, some form of change is needed somewhere within the club and a new manager may well give everything a lift.
I can’t help but feel though, that until something changes higher up than the manager, any positive change will be short lived, but then again, I am pretty down about Newcastle these days.
28 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:17 PM
Lads I feel very disappointed and sad that you would want Moyes in as replacement.
Did you not clearly see he failed at every distinctive way possible at Manchester United?
He would be more suitable for a club like Aston Villa not ours.
We need a manager that can work with the technical players we have, we are going to get and work on the youth academy.
David Moyes is not good enough for this, let alone for NUFC.
Its about time fans demand for the quality we deserve and the 55k or so fans demand.
Ibiza
I would hate to say anything just yet. I hate rumours just as anyone else so ill stay quiet about that.
29 giimps // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:18 PM
man u refusing to deny moyes has been sacked according to sky sports news
30 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Turkish…All I asked was whether the two rumours are from the same source? Not sure why you’d need to stay quiet on that one, even if they are purely rumours.
31 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Fans are sounding way too desperate now….
They would rather get anything other than Pardew.
Anything other than Pardew would get the cockney out but its not the solution to our problems and what we actually need.
Moyes is not the answer.
32 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:22 PM
Ibiza
And I said, I rather no detail or reveal to outline anything.
I know what’s happened here in the past so ill stay quiet and just provide the information I know to fellow fans.
33 ToonMatt // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM
Ashley doesn’t care? He’s getting 51,0000 mugs at every home game so why would he start spending money?
34 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Until we get a new owner we will not progress. Fatash is soley focussed on profit. As long as we are in the EPL then its job done – tV money secure – the icing on the cake is a full house of paying punters.
I guess most geordies are satisfied with that? As they fill out sjp week in week out
35 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Turkish…You really have lost me. If you’re worried about getting grief on the blog, it’s surely best to not say anything at all?
The information I’ve requested is surely neither here nor there? Unless you don’t know whether the two pieces of information have come from the same place?
Agree with you 100% on fans desperation. If I were cynical, I would perhaps think that building up frustration levels was some form of tactic.
36 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM
This is what I hate, fans settling for something atrocious like this and when we say “But we are a big club” many fans like this one (much more who want Moyes in as well) would rather settle for a “mid-table” manager.
“Matt Woods ?: verge of leaving, this is good news for nufc fans! Id happily have him,great mid table manager”
37 ochytoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:27 PM
Ibiza
Not entirely sure why Turkish is spooked. It’s not like this information about Moyes isn’t all over BBC and SSN
38 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:28 PM
Ibizatoon
If you really want to know, they are from two different sources.
I was prepared to get grief anyway when I posted the information, its just at times stuff can change instantly and from something that was genuinely going to happen can be re-thought and re-decided to be delayed or not happen at all.
39 bigden // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:28 PM
Fat ash is in Florida with the family he was in 1st class on my plane coming over!
40 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:30 PM
We need a grim Reaper
41 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM
Just seen on SSN that rumours are going around that Moyes has been sacked?
42 Average_Contents // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:33 PM
Turkish
who said anything about us wanting moyes?
43 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:34 PM
Ochy…Precisely.
Turkish…I’m not here to attack or hound you mate, was just trying to gather a little info to try and make sense of a situation that probably can’t be made sense of
I suppose with Sky running the Moyes story, if they had been from the same source it may have carried a little more belief, but these things are what they are…rumours.
Don’t stress, what’s the worst that could happen? Someone on a blog says they don’t believe you? I’m sure you’ll survive.
Thanks for sharing.
44 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:38 PM
Turkish didn’t break the Moyes story, it was already online. Think he’s referring to the Pardew news, but if it were true the press would be onto it by now surely?
45 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:41 PM
Average_Contents
All the texts I am getting from fellow toon fans and its also all over twitter that everyone wants Moyes in.
Just sounds massive desperation as we can get better manager in.
Ibizatoon
Np mate, one should be used to getting the grief and bad feedback as it is the internet and its full of interesting individuals.
46 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:42 PM
ibiza
if Ashley dose not like to be challenged , surly pardew is the wrong man ,
pardew has blamed anything and everything including Ashley and lameass when we under cooked it a bit,
pardew still has not came out and said once it’s his fault the team are under performing taking any pressure off Ashley , pardew is fine and dandy as long as the finger is not pointed at him ,
but you see , this is where he is being tested, the back page from the Sunday sun went viral , now he looks like a clown and the only mugs still believing him are manx and his band , and a few ex footballers with no connection to the area or the club, in other words gob shyts ,
Another thing , moys , no no no, I said on here before the season started he would fail, I said he held Everton back on here , he is only slightly better than pardew , I find the guy petty , and is a very defensive manager
47 Shot Bru // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:42 PM
At this moment in time I wouldn’t mind a manager that had us sitting mid table…as long as we gave it a go in matches, were more organised than we are now and have a philosophy of playing good attacking football on the deck…
Southampton aren’t much better off than us in terms of points…but geez they are light years ahead of us in terms of entertainment and progression…and their manager doesn’t even speak the lingo yet…
Saying that, it’s plain to see that the silver tongued dinosaur can’t even spell football never mind make any coherent sense when spouting off to the media….
48 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:43 PM
Moyes
49 hitman // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:46 PM
sky news are saying manu are making no comment.would ashley spend the cash to get moyes tho,moyes would want his own backroom staff,then theres compen for pardwho..carnt see it me like
50 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:47 PM
catchy in norway
Yes I agree Moyes is not the answer
Also, Moyes only got the chance to manage Manchester United because of the opinion of Sir Alex Ferguson which many thought was the right decision as he was a very good manager.
But it turns out, his views and points on others dont match his success on the managerial background thus it failed.
So fellow fans, Moyes is not the answer and never will be unless you want to be a Mid-Table side.
51 theartfuldodger // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:48 PM
Rotunda,
Dunno why he took those decisions. Lots of things about him which I cannot explain. And thats why I want him gone.
However,I still feel sorry for him.
Pardew has protected and saved Ashley everytime. Ashley has not returned the favour.
52 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:49 PM
Catchy…Just on a call, but I will respond to Pardew not being Ashleys yes man in a bit, needless to say, I think you’re wrong
53 toon22 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:49 PM
The people who would want Moyes after what Baines said about his tactics etc should think twice.
He gets his team to worry about them instead of thinking of what we can do,sounds similar to someone else.
Dont it.
54 Average_Contents // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:51 PM
Turkish
Okies mate I thought you meant on here lol
Undecided on moyes, he obviously hasn’t cut it at manure but did well with Everton and instilled a way of playing their which martinez has adapted, but the main bulk of the squad was built by moyes so…… Don’t think I’d want him here though plus fatty will never get rid of his puppet aslong as he hits the targets and does as he’s told!
Why are we even discussing it lol
55 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM
I do not want another British manager unless it’s Kevin Keegan or has adapted to same philosophy as him or Sir Bobby Robson.
56 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 21, 2014 at 3:57 PM
Wouldn’t want Moyes. Van Persie has already said that under Moyes he doesn’t generally allow midfield players to overlap and get beyond the forwards. That is negative, cautious football.
Free flowing positive football has my vote.
57 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:05 PM
Don’t worry lads there’s another bad record on the way, hmmm lets see now ah yes 8 defeats in a row coming end of season
58 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:08 PM
forget transfers for the summer lets bring in Martinez ASAP
59 Shot Bru // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:08 PM
That’s a bummer Manure are considering sacking Moyes…it’s the one thing that has cheered me up this season seeing the Mancs suffer!!
Was hoping they would keep him on next season and send them deeper into the wilderness like Souness did at Liverpool…
Also awesome to see Ferguson making a disastrous recommendation to the club to employ his compatriot Moyes….
60 noladonna // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:12 PM
Be quite happy to lose the next three games see Pardew get his p45 then I’d like Andre villas boas to come in worked under the master SBR
That would be my choice I’d settle for laudrup also, don’t want Moyes or Sherwood or Pulis or Pardew
61 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:15 PM
Moyes? Moyes? who the f@ck would want Moyes here?
he’s just as bad as Pardew when it comes to tactics, hasn’t any one realize he is managing a top team and so far has a record off
17 wins, 6 draws, 11 loses with 56 goals this is a very bad stats for Manure
62 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:18 PM
Catchy…Has Pardew ever once come out and actually blamed Ashley for anything?
He has blamed Llambias and then Kinnear for not getting players over the line, but even then it’s been a mild criticism and usually followed by how hard it is for a club our size to compete.
Other than that, i can only remember Pardew praising Ashley.
I think you will find that whilst Pardew deflects the blame from himself, he also does a top job of doing the same for Ashley, making them the perfect pairing. Neither one is solely responsible, so the blame can keep getting passed around.
63 TurkishFan101 // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:22 PM
This guy knows everything, spot on and what we should expect in the next manger.
http://keithrnufc.wix.com/internetpresentation/apps/blog/who-could-we-get-gimme-a-name
http://keithrnufc.wix.com/internetpresentation/apps/blog/nobody-would-take-the-job
Have a read.
No way, never ever want Moyes or manager like Moyes here.
64 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:41 PM
Ibizatoon,
He did say Ashley didn’t understand football, got frustrated and sometimes did things that hurt the club.
In hindsight I think that was just a rehash, in Pardew’s mouth, of the old “you don’t know how horrible we can be” threat. I can’t imagine it was said without Ashley’s approval. Same as I don’t think any of Joe’s ramblings when he was appointed would have caused Ashley any offence. Hope to catch you later.
65 welshgeordie9 // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:42 PM
How annoying is it that moyes could go before pardew
66 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:46 PM
BandB…Hello.
That is true, I had forgotten that, although I think that wasn’t much of a criticism, but more designed to try and make Ashley seem a little more human to the fans (in a NUFC sort of way).
Far better for fans to think Ashley lacks understanding in certain areas rather than he knows full well what he’s doing. It provides room for change.
I wonder if Ashley does know more about running a club now?
Speak soon.
67 theartfuldodger // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:46 PM
Pardew is definately doing some special favours for Ashley…
More than a football manager at any other club…
68 Mister Tuff // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM
Whist not a deflection from our own problems – I am relatively pleased to see the demise of Man United – and the clear rubbish recomendation by Red Nose that Moyes -his countryman – was his true successor. They will try to buy themselves out of trouble in the summer -massively -which will go nicely on top of their current massive debt – this combined with no CL money next season (probably) is music to my ears.
Unfortunately it looks like Liverpool will take their place as the media favourites – so we will be getting plenty of “scouser shite and fables” thrust down our throats in the foreseeable future -commencing of course when we get our arses well and truly twanged at their place in a couple of weeks time.
Seems to be a bit of a head of steam building up against Percy Parsnip -he surely cannot recover from his recent shenanigans, bad results, loony spoutings. He surely must be on his way out.
69 Sazzer // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Tom_NUFC/status/458270191156080640/photo/1/large
70 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 4:54 PM
So what is the consensus this fine Easter Monday?
…I had to leave for a few hours this afternoon so need to be updated
71 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:00 PM
Ibizatoon,
There was also Pardew’s “end of season report” on his boss last May, when he suggested that Ashley needed to take some responsibility for how the season had gone.
We all thought he was being very brave.
But all it did was to convey the (false) impression that lessons had been learned and stock was being taken. As the following transfer windows showed.
72 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:01 PM
Pardew is unfortunately going nowhere soon…it’s not part of the master-plan for him to go just yet…he’ll go just before he gets us relegated next year and then go join ashley at Rangers.
Ashley owns his sorry ar5e…it’s almost criminal.
there’s no joy to be had from seeing him sacked for sure….unless of course all the 50,000 fans chip in £50 each towards his sack settlement
73 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:05 PM
Jesper….Basically…nothing.
News that Moyes is being fired and there was “talk” that Pardew has said some goodbyes, but nothing to that rumour as of yet.
BandB….Oh yeah, the time where we thought Pardew may have grown a pair. That was short lived.
If Pardew were to go, do you have any faith at all that a proper manager would be appointed? By proper manager I mean one who is hired for footballing reasons, not political.
74 Bambams // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM
Pointless bringing anyone else in whilst Ashley refuses to spend any money.
Would rather we actually got relegated next year and Ash sold us for less than he would like.
Two steps back to take one forward.
Maybe I am totally miles away and I know the ‘books’ look good but until Ash and Pards are no more we are destined for mediocrity. ….
imo
75 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:09 PM
more than happy to see us relegated if it means a fresh start with a new owner and manager so we’re finally rid of this god awful regime
76 welshgeordie9 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:14 PM
So Vincent tan was at the stadium at the weekend problem solved he’s going to be our new manager
Ha ha ha
77 Average_Contents // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:15 PM
Relegation didn’t work last time, like I’ve said before he got offered a fair price and didn’t accept it (even after all the high earners had been sold or released) he still wanted an exhorbent price for a championship team.
78 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:21 PM
This time last year there was a feeling that Pardew had to be on his bike. Or that there had to be a major rethink.
There was going to be a major end of season review, remember?
What did we get? Nothing, until Joe pops up on the wireless announcing that he is a lot cleverer than us thick lot.
This is like The Truman Show, with a revolving cast and revolving storylines.
With us as Truman, seeing and believing only what we are meant to see and believe.
79 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM
bambams
not all managers are high maintenance, some are just good.
80 The next Mike Williamson // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM
If Pardew stays next season, I’m supporting Gateshead. Even if he starts winning, I’ve not enjoyed watching his football.
Heed Army!!!
81 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:27 PM
ibiza at 73
sadly not as ash knows nada about football and god knows who’s advising him as they have been shocking so far to say the least.
82 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:27 PM
average,
His pride wouldn’t have stood it. He came spivving around the club only to have his pants publicly taken down by a couple of those “fick Geordies”.
He will never get over it.
83 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:28 PM
the next mw
who would blame you and i don’t think you’d be alone.
84 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:32 PM
Average@75
the price wont be the same this time.
he’s got back most of the ‘personal loan’ so it’ll be original cost plus some. Plus the fact his net worth has more than quadrupled through the free advertising over the last four years and he’s now at a different level altogether taking over shopping chain giants and the top sport brand names at will.
He knows it’s time to sell on soon…my shout is next summer when it’ll be a good time to buy Rangers just one season away from joining the scottish elite again because he’d then be advertising to a bigger global market on the back of Champions league football.
This boy may not have a clue about how to run a football club but when it comes to running a business there’s no one better. His business strategic and tactical thinking is brilliant…it’s just a shame he has no ambition for the toon after we practically ran him out the club four years ago.
This is all about getting us back…he’ll leave us relegated and in total disarray because that’s his vision of revenge served cold.
85 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:34 PM
Mister tuff
I thought a season out of europe would have catastrophic consequences for manu and that they could implode until I heard about their billion dollar sponsorship deal!! And Wonga give us 4M a season !
It’s amazing given what Ash does that he hasn’t promoted his shirts and tat in the far east. Ironic really as that’s where they start in the sweat shops there!
86 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:42 PM
sparky,
People keep saying “we’ll get relegated next season unless have a total overhaul.” As if the thought might not have occurred to Ashley.
So it stands to reason we’ll be seeing a total overhaul.
Doesn’t it?
87 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:43 PM
That picture of Alan Pardew is absolutely hilarious. Hope it’s true. If Pardew was manger that Man Utd team would look like this next season:
Elliot
Smalling Evans Phil Jones Dummett
Zaha Carrick Cleverley Ashley Young
Shola Ameobi Welbeck
88 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:45 PM
Average
Martinez bought in Lukaku, McCarthy, Barry, Delafeo and promoted Barkley and Stones, basically more than half the team now. Very few Everton fans would have Moyes back over Martinez now. Cautious, negative, defensive ”containing” football. Now where have I heard that…!
89 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:48 PM
Turkish
that’s an amazing list of way better (and available) managers than pardew who if ash wasn’t so misinformed could do a fantastic job here.
90 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM
Ibiza…I’ll check back later then for some primetime update
…keep me posted!
91 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM
Ibiza
Rumours that Pardew has said his goodbyes?
Where were these, haven’t seen them anywhere
As I’ve said before, as long as we’re not in relegation trouble i don’t think he’s going anywhere
Ashley has had the means and opportunity on countless occasions to give him the boot and he’s somehow still here
A lot of people seem to think finishing 11th will see him gone for financial reasons, last season the prize money difference from 10th to 11th was £800k, if we finish 11th imo Ashley will being doing the chicken dance naked around his office at the thought of the millions he’s just saved in not having to pay out performance bonuses!
92 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:50 PM
artful
he’s not sacked him either though
93 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM
B&B @ 96
Not necessarily…I think he wants to leave us relegated next summer but in the meanwhile keep Pardew hanging from those puppet strings for another year and in the meanwhile ensure the free advertising is broadcasted around the world until such time he can broadcast it via champions league pitch-side advertising
94 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM
@86!
95 welshgeordie9 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:56 PM
I wish people on here quit talking about rumours that pardews gone,he hasn’t gone.
God if somebody said he’d jumped off a bridge you lot will believe it.
96 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM
Sparky
Can he advertise during CL?
Think your only allowed CL sponsors on show during European matches
97 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM
How can Pardew favour Gosling to Sylvain Marveaux. He’s making Ben Arfa look poor. Ben Arfa would be in my team every week. He is the most talented player in the team. We have a half decent squad. We are struggling due to bad management. Cabaye was overrated. He had 1 good half of a season. He was average on the previous 2 seasons seasons. £20m was a great deal.
98 Rotonda heights // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:58 PM
welsh
pardew’s jumped off the tyne bridge
99 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:58 PM
Rotonda,
Why hasn’t Ashley promoted the Newcastle United brand in the far east….
Ooh! let me think……….
Perhaps it isn’t the Newcastle United brand he envisages expanding into the far east?
TADS…I don’t think he is going to get the push. But not hitting the targets would be a setback, as it would be for any business. Ashley doesn’t exist outside the laws of physics as some people seem to think he does. Finish 10th and they will say the doubters have been silenced and all we need is more of the same. Eleventh, and they have some explaining to do.
100 catchy in norway // Apr 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM
ibiza
sorry for the late reply, I’m at work being greedy , silly money
I think he had a go at both DL and Ashley when he said we under cooked it, he said that the 3 of them sat down,
that was the closest iv seen say anything was partly his fault, but he made sure he implicated others too
101 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM
Pardew is going nowhere…he won’t go until we’re sold and that 8 year contract means that when we are sold, the new owner sacks Pardew with immediate effect and Ashley has a charge over his contract to make sure he’s paid back what Pardew owes him for taking on his gambling debts from Lambias’ casino.
102 BandB // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:01 PM
sparky55,
Something is clearly off here. Your theory fits what we are seeing as well as any, and better than most. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if this, or worse, happens.
103 JackButler // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM
“In terms of the personnel we had available I thought we put a decent performance in and on another day we could have won.”
“We are going to have to work hard because we need to be more resilient in these three games than perhaps we would needed to have been if we’d won. We need to show a strength of character.”
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A couple of points with that Alan
1st – In terms of the personnel we had available I thought we put a decent performance in?
Nice way to motivate and inspire the stand in personnel and no we were not even decent.
2nd – “On another day we could have won.”?
We could have played for a month and a day and we would have one that game as we were toothless.
3rd – “We are going to have to work hard because we need to be more resilient in these three games than perhaps we would needed to have been if we’d won. We need to show a strength of character.”
This is what we should be doing every day, it should be a prerequisite and not something we turn to when we are falling quicker than a whores panties in the red light district
104 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:04 PM
TADS…he’s one of the wealthiest retail magnets on the planet…if what you say is correct and he has to become a CL sponsor then he’ll pay off someone else’s gambling debts and make sure he does become a sponsor because nothing will stand it this blokes way for sure.
105 Ibizatoon // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:05 PM
Jesper…When is this “prime time” you speak of?
Tads…Just someone said they had heard that a player had said something about Pardew saying his goodbyes today. Nothing to it probably.
I also understand what you said about CL sponsorship to be true.
Catchy…Oh money, that pesky stuff! Do you have enough to buy the club yet?
I wouldn’t call that a good go, more offering as little as possible in what was an obvious screw up. As BandB said earlier, it was more an opportunity to let people know they had learned from their mistakes and all would be different.
Anyway, that’s my point, he is the ultimate yes man for Ashley. If he wasn’t then I don’t believe he’d still be at the club. No matter what people say about his 8 year contract, if Ashley wanted him gone, he’d be gone.
106 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM
Sparky,
If the Rangers thing is true it would have to be SD as shirt sponsors as only official CL advertising is allowed, Heineken etc.
My theory is he is here as long as Pardews eight year contract as he will have all his money back by then, on top of all he’s diverted and his free advertising, he can then sell us for a pittance after completely asset stripping us.
107 welshgeordie9 // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM
I wonder where manxpie is tonight
108 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:10 PM
BandB
I 100% believe Pardew and the club in there eyes were handed the excuse of dropping out the top 10 gift wrapped with sale of Cabaye
JFK’s apparent “failing” in getting the wanted sum and a replacement combined with an injury to our only goalscorer will be wheeled out and paraded by Pardew with the insistence that Charnley will see the right type of players in and a huge push to break the top 10 next season
The club have never and imo will never explain or layout there true intentions
It was only a couple of seasons ago that we were being told that Ashley wanted NUFC to be a global brand and the only way to do that was to threaten the European places each and every season, ruffle some feathers with the PL heavy weights and break the top 6
One season later and the realisation of how much would need to be spent and the mission statement changed completely
I doubt they’d think twice about changing it yet again
109 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM
Jail…
IMO Ashley would see “getting his money back’ as a failure. He’s in it to make money…he’ll sell us and buy into Rangers while they’re cheap because it’s an opportunity to make lots of money.
And I keep on saying it but he wants to hurt us for what we did to him…he didn’t feel safe coming to the club he owned for over 6 months and for that and that alone he wants revenge. If he read this blog he’s be pissing himself laffin because he’s a twisted fcuker who simply wants revenge.
Money is his god…he’s in it to make money…nothing else.
110 theartfuldodger // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:14 PM
Sparky55,
I dont think you can advertise in CL matches.
And theres not much TV money imvolved either.
I still cant see his plans with Rangers…
111 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 PM
Sparky
This may be a bit clearer
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League#Sponsorship
So i think your right, shirt sponsorship would be the only way to guarantee exposure
112 JackButler // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:16 PM
Remember that Ashley owns the naming right to Ibrox
113 JackButler // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:17 PM
Jurgen Klopp rumoured to be favourite to replace Moyes
114 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:18 PM
So Leicester and Burnley definitely promoted, should be a great fight to the end of the season for play off spots!
115 toonking // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:18 PM
geremi
a german manager coming to newcastle looks good on paper
but their is a massive difference between a german manager in the bundesliga and a german manager in the premier league.
that difference is germany vs england.
when the world cup starts this summer i will be shocked if germany don’t reach the semi final with england but i will be shocked if we we even get into the quarter final.
germany has got a league with great academies, england’s league on the other hand have got disgraceful academies.
liverpool for instance are the team with that many english players and even they have got no more than 8 players in their whole squad that are english, others like city chelsea have very few at all
bayern munich have got 13 themselves and their is very few german teams who don’t consist of germans.
our academy is one of the few things ashley didn’t have an effect on, the destruction to our academy was because of sir john hall and freddy shepard.
but the who point about this is ASHLEY WILL STILL NEED TO SPEND MONEY.
that year we finished 5th ashley had no excuse at all and should have got the players but he did not so he is certainly only going to spend when it’s an emergency.
for now the type of manager we want is pulis because he has shown at stoke and now at palace that he can get the players spirit up in the worst of times and this fat b@stard will cause them every season.
116 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:19 PM
JB
Van Gaal is the man being touted by all the media, not sure if Klopp would go
117 Jail for Ashley // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM
Sparky,
Not just his money back mate, he’ll have had over ten years of free advertsing, that 50M of missing revenue every year for ten years and finally when he sells the full squad for a 100M before watching us drop like a stone, it’ll make what Shepherd/Hall and took look like beer money.
118 JackButler // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM
tads
Van Gaal already said to have signed to take over at Spurs, Gullit let slip to Dutch media a few weeks ago by all accounts
119 JackButler // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:22 PM
tads
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26798631
120 GeordieTwo // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:24 PM
Some very interesting comments on here today mates. I’m reading with great enjoyment.Huzzah! Keep up the good work. What a mess to fix in the summer though. Is there hope or is it going to be another complete shambles? If we lose the last 3 the atmosphere will be horrible. We need something positive before the season ends.
121 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:24 PM
JB
May not be that straight forward, SSN naming him heavily (on the web site anyway) and bookies have put him in as favourite
Doubt spurs could offer him better wages/budget than the mancs
122 TOON TOON COME ON ARMY // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:25 PM
TOON TOON
123 JackButler // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:27 PM
tads
Well who ever does eventually get the job it will be one hell of a job to turn them around………………….and a very expensive one as well.
At least we have the stability factor with Pardew eh!!!!!
124 GeordieTwo // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:27 PM
And don’t forget that old saying:
‘Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves, and another among Men. It is a man’s part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house.’
This is how we will move forward mates.
G2
OBH
125 GeordieTwo // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM
We must recognize the evil one among us mates. And lo his name is NoNuts.
126 toonking // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:32 PM
TADS
when we were in the europa league i can’t remember much about the sports direct advertising boards themselves, but i think he still was able to advertise sports direct using the stadium name itself, the only thing i think didn’t allow that was the Olympics who said it had to be st james park.
127 GeordieTwo // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:34 PM
I hope my words of inspiration are raising your spirits mates. Here at Blog End we never give up. And remember the wise words of Winston:
“If you’re going through hell, keep going”
Huzzah!
128 sparky55 // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:35 PM
JAIL…the script has been written in blood…the only thing that can save us is a wealthy loon from the middle or far east…otherwise we’re doomed….aye…we’re dooooooooomed!
129 GeordieTwo // Apr 21, 2014 at 6:39 PM
Nay I say! Nay! We are not doomed sparky! There is hope! The evil one in the castle will not win! My honey badger stands ready to go forth and bite his scrotum once more! Huzzah!
G2
OBH
130 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:20 AM
Sorry repost from yesterday!
As long as we’re not in relegation trouble Pardew is here to stay imo
Ashley has had the means and opportunity on countless occasions to give him the boot and he’s somehow still here
A lot of people seem to think finishing 11th will see him gone for financial reasons, last season the prize money difference from 10th to 11th was £800k, if we finish 11th imo Ashley will being doing the chicken dance naked around his office at the thought of the millions he’s just saved in not having to pay out performance bonuses!
I 100% believe Pardew and the club in there eyes were handed the excuse of dropping out the top 10 gift wrapped with sale of Cabaye
JFK’s apparent “failing” in getting the wanted sum and a replacement combined with an injury to our only goalscorer will be wheeled out and paraded by Pardew with the insistence that Charnley will see the right type of players in and a huge push to break the top 10 next season
The club have never and imo will never explain or layout there true intentions
It was only a couple of seasons ago that we were being told that Ashley wanted NUFC to be a global brand and the only way to do that was to threaten the European places each and every season, ruffle some feathers with the PL heavy weights and break the top 6
One season later and the realisation of how much would need to be spent and the mission statement changed completely
I doubt they’d think twice about changing it yet again
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