Newcastle had lost four games on the trot before the Swansea game on Saturday, but 51,000 fans still turned up for the game, and although Newcastle again did not play very well, the fans kept with the team until the end – the end being when Swansea scored a last minute penalty to make Alan Pardew the first Newcastle manager ever to lose five Premier League games in a row.
Mike Ashley – singularly unsuccessful as Newcastle owner
And last season we lost five of six league games on one of our bad runs that ended when Everton beat us 2-1 at home in the first game of last year.
So our record over the last two seasons has hardly been good – in fact apart from the first 18 games this season, when we did very well and gained 33 points, we’ve looked like a relegation side.
That’s not an opinion – that’s based on the facts.
We have lost 17 games this season and that’s how many we lost all of last season when we were 5th bottom, and we have only 5 points more than last season at the moment, and it’s going to be hard to add any more than 3 points to that total.
Here’s the Newcastle league record over the last two season.
Played Won Draw Lost GF GA GD Points 38 9 12 17 45 68 -23 41 35 14 4 17 39 54 -15 46 73 23 16 34 84 122 -38 97
And we will not even go into how we have done in the local Cup competitions over the last two seasons.
We have improved on our goals against tally this season, and the goal difference is a little bit better – but over a full season the records over the last two seasons would give us around 12 wins,eight draws and 18 losses, for a points total of 44 – which would see us in the bottom ten.
And we will not score as many goals as we did last season.
So while it looked like this season was going to be a (very) good one, we may not finish in the top ten, and the record is not too much better than it was last season.
And seeing both Liverpool and Everton coming away so well this season is even harder to take, since we now seem to be miles behind the top six clubs in England – the two Manchester clubs. Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea.
And Everton and Southampton may also be ahead of Newcastle these days.
It’s simply not good enough for Newcastle United, as Mathieu Debuchy pointed out after the game on Saturday, and the way my son Neil deals with all of this is he’s just waiting for the summer and has given up on this season.
That’s interesting because that’s what most of Newcastle’s players have done also – given up on this season – and watching Newcastle’s games this season has been very (very) painful.
Now the question is what is the owner going to do about it in the summer?
That’s the big question – and we just have to hope Mike gets an injection of enthusiasm and ambition for Newcastle, because in the last seven years we have had only one top ten finish.
And if he doesn’t want to make Newcastle United great again – why did he ever buy the club in the first place?
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130 comments so far
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:04 PM
Comment #1Repost:
Rotonda heights
Hopefully. If Mike Ashley trusts Graham Carr with players, hopefully he can trust him with asking him to list candidates with best experience of getting best out of technical and most importantly young players.
Mike wouldn’t of put millions into youth for no reason.
Thinking about it, Frank De Boer is realistic as he will work under strict conditions.
Rotonda heights
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:05 PM
Comment #2bandB
Imagine if you are an Armstrong or Campbell and the choice of a Martinez, ie developing Delafeo, Barkley and Stones or a dinosaur like Pardew !!
Rotonda heights
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM
Comment #3Turkish
Not all managers are high maintenance. Some could actually use the players we have and make them look good, not totally demoralised or shunned and ostracised as some of them are now.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Comment #4Turkish – What’s this about Pardew?
Rotonda – German for certain, there are a number of promising young coaches out there who would fit the bill. We need someone with a vision and some intelligence. When you hear the likes of Martinez speak it is a farcry away from what Pardew bleats out. Difference is Martinez is an intelligent bloke whereas Pardew isn’t.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM
Comment #5Rotonda
Yes exactly which is why I most importantly believe that Mike Ashley will hire a good manager to get the most out of technical players and shuffle the staff as well.
This can lead to bringing through youths and he will make more money from it, makes sense.
Also the only yes man puppet was Pardew, he was like that at his previous clubs as well.
Mike Ashley gave spending power to previous managers and obviously he doesn’t trust Pardew.
scout
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM
Comment #6How is he still in a job?????
Cant believe that about the training ground the players must be off today surely
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM
Comment #7Also hope to God the Tim Sherwood link is utter crap. He’s my second most disliked manager in the league after Pardew. Loves the sound of his own voice and does anything for an interview, not to mention he talks crap and is another poor manager.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM
Comment #8Scout
DailyMail saying Mike Ashley in Florida (article linking us with Tim Sherwood) but how are they so sure? Last time I checked he has a very private life unless he gets drunk and does stupid stuff again..
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:20 PM
Comment #9Geremi
That Tim Sherwood link is bullsh!t.
Mike Ashley would be a very big stupid fool to make that mistake. He’s spending millions on youth academy and technical players.
At this point, only a good manager makes sense to get full potential and get youths to first team and sold for big profits.
theartfuldodger
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:21 PM
Comment #10I really do want Pardew to go.
At the same time I do feel a bit sorry for him. He has got very little support from the owner. He chose to defend the owner instead of distance himself from club decisions and transfers. He is a limited manager we know, football wise but he has been treated pathetically by the same owner who he defends time and time again.
Damn it..he is not going is he ..
Rotonda heights
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM
Comment #11Very interesting listening to Leighton Baines yesterday saying that under Martinez they think more about how they can hurt and impose themselves on the opposition rather than worry about them. That’s a proper footballing philosophy, not the ”containing”, defensive, negative dirge from Pardew.
We haven’t registered a solitary goal in 12 of the last 16 games!!
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:24 PM
Comment #12David Moyes reportedly sacked as well.
Rotonda heights
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:28 PM
Comment #13artful
It’s entirely pardew’s decision to do things like split up Willo and MYM when on form, play Ben Arfa in short cameos out of position and expected to track back more than create and drop Marveaux (more assists than Cabaye) out of the picture altogether.
No fan of Ash but I don’t think Pards has been treated quite as badly as he makes out. Pardew’s just been found out again like every club he’s ever been at. Like Allardyce he can’t or won’t update himself and is still stuck in the 80s.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:30 PM
Comment #14Turkish – Where are you getting all of this?
mag
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM
Comment #15Pardew has just been given a job that’s completely out of his league and Ashley should be ashamed of himself for dragging the soap opera on for ages.
mag
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:33 PM
Comment #16Liverpool have scored 50 goals in 2014 and NUFC have scored 10, Shocking!
Rotonda heights
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM
Comment #17Turkish
This is doing my heed in !!!
mag
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:37 PM
Comment #18When have Newcastle United been unable to score goals, we’ve always leaked them.
mag
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM
Comment #19If Ashley is astute as he leads everyone else to believe then surely he’s formulating Planb for the summer?
bobby mango
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM
Comment #20Sack him and all the coaches. They are completely useless.
The 5th finish was a fluke… Even then we didn’t pay good football or dominate teams.
Our record without Remy shows how completely one dimensional we are.
The list of embarrassing results we’ve suffered under Pardew is shameful.
Our set pieces are conference quality.
mag
Apr 21, 2014 at 2:45 PM
Comment #21The diagonal long high balls to the statuesque Mike Williamson are the most embarrassing examples of 3rd rate coaching witnessed at SJP.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Comment #22Just to add:
No way David Moyes is coming to Newcastle as next manager. He failed to motivate players and the results on the pitch provided he was not the right man for Man United.
Ibizatoon
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:09 PM
Comment #23Turkish…Did those sacking rumours (Pardew and Moyes) come from the same place?
geordie1892
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:10 PM
Comment #24People wanting Pardew out are 100% right, he should be sacked with the record over the last 2 seasons. Fair enough he hasn’t been backed with any new players this season except Remy on loan and yes we have lost cabaye but a better manager would have adapted our style of play to cope with this loss.
My biggest concern is if Pardew goes who will replace him. Obviously there are some excellent candidates and many names have been thrown about but let’s be honest under Ashley we will end up with someone like Alan Curbishley
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:11 PM
Comment #25If Man U are sacking Moyes then surely that means we can follow suit. PLEASE!?
BlacknWhiteBarmy
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:12 PM
Comment #26Eds first sentence says it all “50000 still turned up”. What pressure is there for Fatash to change things? Hes probably hoping for an 11th finish so he doesnt have to pay out the bonusus.
When people vote with their feet will see a change – chances of this is zero !
Ibizatoon
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:16 PM
Comment #271892…Who would come in next is a worry. Some great names have been thrown about, although I have my reservations about whether they would come to Newcastle, let alone to work for Ashley.
My biggest issue is that it is well known Ashley doesn’t like to be challenged. I can’t see him hiring an outspoken manager that wouldn’t direct the flak away from Ashley.
Still, some form of change is needed somewhere within the club and a new manager may well give everything a lift.
I can’t help but feel though, that until something changes higher up than the manager, any positive change will be short lived, but then again, I am pretty down about Newcastle these days.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:17 PM
Comment #28Lads I feel very disappointed and sad that you would want Moyes in as replacement.
Did you not clearly see he failed at every distinctive way possible at Manchester United?
He would be more suitable for a club like Aston Villa not ours.
We need a manager that can work with the technical players we have, we are going to get and work on the youth academy.
David Moyes is not good enough for this, let alone for NUFC.
Its about time fans demand for the quality we deserve and the 55k or so fans demand.
Ibiza
I would hate to say anything just yet. I hate rumours just as anyone else so ill stay quiet about that.
giimps
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:18 PM
Comment #29man u refusing to deny moyes has been sacked according to sky sports news
Ibizatoon
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Comment #30Turkish…All I asked was whether the two rumours are from the same source? Not sure why you’d need to stay quiet on that one, even if they are purely rumours.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Comment #31Fans are sounding way too desperate now….
They would rather get anything other than Pardew.
Anything other than Pardew would get the cockney out but its not the solution to our problems and what we actually need.
Moyes is not the answer.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:22 PM
Comment #32Ibiza
And I said, I rather no detail or reveal to outline anything.
I know what’s happened here in the past so ill stay quiet and just provide the information I know to fellow fans.
ToonMatt
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM
Comment #33Ashley doesn’t care? He’s getting 51,0000 mugs at every home game so why would he start spending money?
BlacknWhiteBarmy
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Comment #34Until we get a new owner we will not progress. Fatash is soley focussed on profit. As long as we are in the EPL then its job done – tV money secure – the icing on the cake is a full house of paying punters.
I guess most geordies are satisfied with that? As they fill out sjp week in week out
Ibizatoon
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Comment #35Turkish…You really have lost me. If you’re worried about getting grief on the blog, it’s surely best to not say anything at all?
The information I’ve requested is surely neither here nor there? Unless you don’t know whether the two pieces of information have come from the same place?
Agree with you 100% on fans desperation. If I were cynical, I would perhaps think that building up frustration levels was some form of tactic.
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM
Comment #36This is what I hate, fans settling for something atrocious like this and when we say “But we are a big club” many fans like this one (much more who want Moyes in as well) would rather settle for a “mid-table” manager.
“Matt Woods ?: verge of leaving, this is good news for nufc fans! Id happily have him,great mid table manager”
ochytoon
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:27 PM
Comment #37Ibiza
Not entirely sure why Turkish is spooked. It’s not like this information about Moyes isn’t all over BBC and SSN
TurkishFan101
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:28 PM
Comment #38Ibizatoon
If you really want to know, they are from two different sources.
I was prepared to get grief anyway when I posted the information, its just at times stuff can change instantly and from something that was genuinely going to happen can be re-thought and re-decided to be delayed or not happen at all.
bigden
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:28 PM
Comment #39Fat ash is in Florida with the family he was in 1st class on my plane coming over!
Himanshu Dhingra
Apr 21, 2014 at 3:30 PM
Comment #40We need a grim Reaper