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Newcastle Favorites To Sign David Moyes

9:48 am, Tuesday, April 22nd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 185 Comments

David Moyes was formally sacked by Manchester United today, when the manager attended an 8:00 am meeting with the club’s Executive Vice-chairman Ed Woodward, after rumors saying he would be fired within 24 hours, circulated like wild-fire yesterday.

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David Moyes – sacked by Manchester United

And the world-famous famous club put the news on their web-site at 8:30 am – and it says something about Moyes that he arrived at the Carrington training ground at 5:00 am to thank staff before his meeting – he knew he was going to be fired.

We had an article out yesterday wondering if Newcastle would go after David, who has been panned in the press this week for his poor record at the famous Red Devils.

And would you believe it – Newcastle are immediately the bookmakers’ favorite to be David Moyes’ next club, following his departure at Manchester United.

Bookmakers’ Ladbrokes have installed Newcastle as the favorite at 4/1, with West Brom and Norwich at 5/1, and Aston Villa and Southampton are both priced at 6/1.

Moyes is still fairly young and he turns 51 on Friday, so he is about a year or so younger than Alan Pardew, and David has served 16 years as a manager with Preston, Everton and Manchester United.

Moyes’ record at Goodison was good – he had 9 top 10 finishes and 5 top 6 finishes in 11 full seasons with the Blues, and he achieved European qualification four times.

And Everton had a lot less money to spend than Newcastle in those days too.

Some news coming out is that his training methods were old-fashioned, long and tedious – but have you noticed how these things always come out once a manager is fired?

The same stuff came out when Swansea sacked Michael Laudrup earlier this year, and it seems the Swansea Chairman was the man spreading that information.

When Bobby Robson was at Newcastle he was said to use old training methods – but that didn’t stop Bobby getting the results on Tyneside.

If Mike Ashley was thinking about replacing Alan Pardew  - it may be an opportune time to contact Moyes.

Whoops – I initially had Mike Ashley was thinking about replacing Mike Ashley – a Freudian slip – but that would be nice. :D

We’re sure some fans would prefer a new-age manager like a Brendan Rodgers or a Roberto Martinez, who have transformed Liverpool and Everton respectively this season, and play some terrific attacking football.

But anyway, let us know what you think.

Comments welcome.



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185 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    For this to happen Ashley would have to start to give a damn about the club and we all know that thats not gonna happen

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Davide??

  • 3 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    David Moyes 11 solid years at Everton 10 bad months at Manure (whoever went in after Fergie was going to be hung drawn and quartered with the ageing unsettled squad he left behind)
    No go steer clear

    Michael Laudrup
    Managerial journeyman sacked from Swansea for a poor attitude and creating a disruptive atmosphere among players, one good season on a ten year inherited ethos then broke that up and watched them turn awful
    Get him signed up
    Fan logic!

  • 4 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    So after the horrendous season we’ve had, we are going to go for another Scottish manager with a dour, negative, defensive, containing, hoof ball style. Didn’t we suffer enough under Dalglish and Souness!!

  • 5 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    tads

    I think at this point in time the fans would take anyone over Pardew such is their dislike for the man but the truth is that if Pardew was going to be sacked it would have come after what he did at Hull as it constituted gross misconduct and he could have been sack without costing Ashley a penny

  • 6 hitman // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    carnt see this happining,it would cost ashley the slug to much money,hed have to bladder pardwho and his coaching staff,if he did ya can kiss goodbeye to any taransfer budget.

  • 7 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    RH

    Remi Garde was not the coach of Montpellier when they won the league.

    It was Rene Girard.

    Garde has come through Lyon academy and then assistant and then the manager

  • 8 Wandering Geordie // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Wont happen.Moyes would have to take a year off to receive full amount of compensation from Manure.We would have to match his wages then we would have to compensate Pardew with his silly contract of 8 years.

    Moyes wasnt good enough and wont be good enough for us .

    We need a euro manager with 21st century and modern tactics.

  • 9 firebug666 // Apr 22, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    David Moyes would be a vast improvement on Alan Pardrew, maybe not what Newcastle need in the long term, but as a step up or in the right direction I would take Moyes over Pardrew any day. He did keep Everton in the top half of the table on a very limited budget, and some of their football was very good to watch, well compared to us. Yes there are better managers out there, but they would want more from Ashley to get the job done.

    Still, I feel all this is immaterial as we will still be stuck with Pardrew next season.

  • 10 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Paddy Power ?@paddypower 10m
    Even though he’s struggling, can’t help but feel Alan Pardew made sure his phone was fully charged when he left home this morning. #Optimist

  • 11 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Tads

    More than anything people want to see good football a la Martinez etc.

    Swansea knew Laudrup was being courted for better things and didn’t want that hanging over them. Fair enough.

    However, Laudrup did something Pardew and Moyes have never done, actually won something (in his very first season in the PL) and delivered very watchable football in the process (good Pardew word!).

    According to reports Swansea players are now at war with each other long after Laudrup left.

    Moyes actually lost at home with Manu to us !!
    No thanks

  • 12 BuckLuck // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Peronally I would love to get a modern manager with an attacking philosophy.
    That said I would take David Moyes over Pardew without a doubt!

  • 13 dubzy // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    For any1 whos interested in a bet …. rafa benitez for me 40/1 1yr left on his contract …(we can all dream :) LOOL

    http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/newcastle/next-permanent-manager

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    HD

    Apologies. You have to admit they do sound quite similar !!

  • 15 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    RH

    No need to apologise. I was just saying.

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Wandering

    ”We need a euro manager with 21st century and modern tactics.”

    Why is it so hard for Ash to see that if we get all French or foreign players then get a French or foreign coach, not a UK dinosaur stuck in the 80′s !!

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Rotonda
    Laudrup is a journeyman look at his career
    Martinez isn’t journeyman, he stated and installed a style and ethos
    Laudrup won the league cup, against a league one club, so did Macliesh that’s a ridiculous logic, then as he has done in ever other job, he ran when the going got tough
    Wouldn’t touch either with a barge pole was just pointing out how fickle some fans are, guarantee you 90% of the people saying Moyes no way were saying Moyes yes please when he left Everton

  • 18 valle // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    This would be a disaster, his teams play football the exact opposite of what we and the fat man wants to see.

  • 19 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    If anyone had any doubts about Pardew before then that news about him wanting

    Shola Fu*king Ameobi to be given a new contract and a coaching role at the club should demolish all faith.

    What a clown

  • 20 theartfuldodger // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Moyes is not good.
    He is as good or bad as Pardew in his style.

  • 21 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    There’s nothing in the Moyes story..

    He was earning £5m + bonuses a year.

    Just media stirring usual nonsense, since too many nufc fans are saying “Moyes would be great for a mid-table side like us, look what he’s done at Everton!”

    Firstly, no fan should settle for mid-table for a big club like us, we should be aiming for top 7 regardless of how we lost Cabaye, no team is based around 1 player hence it being called a TEAM.

    Roberto Martinez is squeezing everything he can from his squad by adapting a new philosophy the same time which is what Brendan Rogers is also doing.

    Was it not Baines coming out in an interview and explaining how Moyes and Martinez are from two different worlds? Also the players at Man U while he’s short period there.

    Well I feel happy we are not going nowhere near another dinosaur manager.

  • 22 ganiyu // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Ashley would never sack pardew until his has 2yrs left in his current tenure. this Moyes article is a hoax.

  • 23 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    excellent read this

    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/don-hutchison-time-mike-ashley-7016018?

  • 24 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Himanshu Dhingra

    Shola is not getting a new contact extension or coaching role at club, Pardew tried to persuade the board and Mike Ashley but they refused, rightly so (thank god)

  • 25 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    wouldn’t go near Laudrup! Those rumours of the swansea dressing room are direct replicas of the rumours when he was Mallorca manager! At newcastle I feel we need some one who actually builds teams not someone who rides on the back of pre established sides.
    Failing that I’d take Gerard Houllier as director of football with David Ginola as manager ;-)

  • 26 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Pardew and Allardyce will be tripping over themselves to get to the computer to print off their C.V.

  • 27 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Turkish

    Thank god for that

    But the endeavor to get him one was certainly a bad move.

  • 28 theartfuldodger // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Wherd the shola contract coaching whatevr news come from

  • 29 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    guessing the Man utd job will be one that Pardew just couldn’t get over the line…. problem is he probably thinks he’d be in with a shout there or at Spurs
    I’ve never known a time like now when so many good managers will be unattached this summer… The fact that we’re stuck with this buffoon is a joke! usually sacking a manager is damned by most as impatient and hasty, but we face the distinct possibility of being the only club in history where the LMA would probably support sacking the manager, not sacking him, letting him say and do what he’s said and done this season reflects negatively on the club

  • 30 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Claudio Raneiri ;)

    Looks like he is getting the boot.

  • 31 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    @28 think Lee Ryder reported that? It’d explain why shola looks genuinely pissed off constantly, the fact that he’s had 15?? years as a Newcastle player is both a mystery and a tragedy though

  • 32 toon kk // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Strange most wanted a younger manager playing more modern tactical football now they’re voting for Moyes.
    desperation I gess.

  • 33 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Laurent…

    Reporter: “So Alan, we understand you were after the Man United job?”

    Pardew: “Yeah, I did try to put my name forward, but it’s difficult to compete. I went down to PC world, but couldn’t get the ink over the line and was therefore unable to submit my CV”

    Reporter: “We understand Alardyce got in his CV, do you think he stands a chance?”

    Pardew: “Make no bones about it, Sam is a top manager with great experience and tries to play football on the front foot, just like me. I feel he had an advantage being based down south as he gets to deal with workers from middle class families. Have you been to a PC World in Newcastle?”

  • 34 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    not sure that Man Utd ad at the bottom of this page to buy the new shirt is going to prove to be the most successful piece of advertising ever….

  • 35 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Unbelieveable!

    Already most of you are slagging Moyes off as the next potential NUFC manager.

    I thought surely Rotonda “the insatiatable Pardew basher” would love the idea but no, he has just started slagging Moyes off in EXACTLY the same way!!!

    Moyes is 1000% a better manager than Pardew. 1000%. He was given an impossible task following Fergie but when had Everton playing fantastic stuff with Baines, Pienaar etc just over season ago on a tiny budget I doubt you would have slagged him off then! No budget to spend yet his record at Everton was fantastic.

    WHO ELSE BETTER THAN MOYES ARE WE GOING TO GET ???

    FFS man this blog and the fickle morons who talk such utter bullshit on here drives me mental!

    No wonder you all come on here to spout your “opinions” because nobody in the real world would pay any attention-you lot just like complaining and never let the facts get in the way of a good whinge!!!

  • 36 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Ibiza, the sad thing is that a real story would be very similar.

  • 37 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Dan, Rotonda also maintains that he wants to see positive attacking football, which I 100% agree with.

    Van Persie has publicly said that Moyes doesn’t advocate midfielders overlapping and going beyond the forwards.

    Carragher has analysed this very thing in their downfall.

    It is just an opinion on a manager. Moyes is definitely better than Pardew, but I’d want a Martinez style manager.

  • 38 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    GeordieDan…I take it that’s just your opinion or are we to take your spoutings and insatiable defence of Pardew as gospel and your pro Pardew arguments are the only ones of any substance that should be taken seriously?

    Get a life Dan…even your support of Pardew must be wearing thin and Hutchinson’s opening statement in his latest blog is bang on the money…” if he had been serious about making Newcastle a force Mike Ashley would never have appointed him (Pardew) in the first place”

    Just about sums it up for me

  • 39 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    @GeordieDan, agree with you on Moyes, he is leagues apart from Pardew! Think Moyes has a great eye for a player too. Actually think Moyes would have done better than Martinez this season if he’d have been given Lukaku!
    Think fans problems with Moyes are he has a very dour personality for one. He’s also very pragmatic! He’s cut from the same cloth as pardew (albeit he’s a much better version).
    Moyes is actually very similar to french managers that i’ve seen people clamour for on here! In france if you don’t manage PSG you play 2 ways. If you are at home you play the first half to win and the 2nd half not to lose. If you are away you play the 1st half not to lose and try to win in the 2nd half. This is very similar to Moyes at everton. Also similar to rene girard, remi garde, christian gaultier, even laurent blanc to an extent. What differs is the way you try to win in that half. Always thought, when people where raving about moyes’ everton last season that they played the MOST long balls of any team both at home and away that i saw that season! played good football too once the striker had held the ball up mind

  • 40 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    GeordieDan

    Here are the list of managers that are miles ahead David Moyes.

    Also, they are cheaper, will work in a financial restriction like ours and would get attacking football at St James Park.

    Also listen to Laurent, what he has said is correct. Players have come out criticising the manager and also what Baines has said comparing Martinez to Moyes, two people I’m two different worlds.

  • 41 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Laurent…well said…if we’re talking about laudrup, martinez, Potchy, and Moyes in the same sentence, he would be my fourth choice for sure

  • 42 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Laurent Robert 32

    Whereas Moyes wouldn’t be my choice as our manager he’d be a big step up on Pardew, but the truth is that under Ashley we are only the in the market for a Pardew, Kinnear or Curbishley type of manager

  • 43 jeff // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    IT IS CRUCIAL WE LOSE to CARDIFF. we will obviously lose to le classenal and the liverpools. if we lose all three pardew must get sacked. vote to lose to cardiff now. send me an email (jeff232@gmail.com) if you want to assist us in losing.me and the boys have some plans to really get a riot going at st james’ in two weeks.

  • 44 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    jayphoto

    From the displays, articles, player interviews David Moyes is not leagues apart from Pardew.

    He also adapts to negative defensive football and is not an upgrade but rather than going for a good attacking football modern manager you rather go for sideways and get Moyes in for constant mid stable side with no ambitions??

    Newcastle United is not a mid stable club, if you want to aim mid stable relegation go support Sunderland.

    With 55k fans week in week out we are capable of getting a good modern manager.

  • 45 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    “me and the boys have some plans to really get a riot going at st james’ in two weeks.”

    The class of some people is astounding

  • 46 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Mike Ashley must choose now. It is either me or Alan Pardew

  • 47 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    want pardew sacked and some ambition shown but still can’t bring myself to actively want the team to lose!
    Ideal fairytale would be for pardew just to be visited by 3 ghosts (preferably Sir Bobby, Bill Shankley and Bill Nicholson) and wake up a decent manager to take us on to glory.
    hopefully on another night he’d be visited by the ghost of the guy from the kings speech to stop him saying “we was” all the time, does my head in that!

  • 48 toon kk // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    We’re living on borrowed time in the premier league the whole set up is flawed, owned and run by clueless idiots.

  • 49 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Laurent>

    I want Pep Guardiola but its not going to happen!

    My point is that we are not going to get a world class or exciting up and comung manager because thats not what Ashley wants. A manager with style and pansche wouldn’t put up with Ashley’s dictatorship and zero ambition.

    If “fans” start slagging off an incoming manager BEFORE they’ve even got here then what does that say about them? Fickle? Unrealistic?

    I mean Moyes isn’t a Martinez-type flair manager but he’s hardly Allardyce is he! I would love Martinez here but until Ashley goes its a non-starter.

    Van Persie is a talented player but a complete dick. He is completely self-involved and I’m not bothered what his opinion is on how to manage tbh. As for Carragher’s comments they were based on 1 performance and that of a team that didn’t seem to want to play for anyone BUT Fergie.

    To be fair to Moyes its not even his squad. He’s had zero time to build a squad of his own there. He was never given time to prove his credentials with a team he built in my opinion

  • 50 jeff // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    is that a challenge JackButler? We are talking hundereds of guys planning a coordinated streaker. Imagine the riot.

  • 51 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    GeordieDan

    Moyes took over a side that won the EPL last season, he didn’t take over a mid table side, his record even when at Everton against the top side is pathetic to say the least plus when he sanctioned the move for Fellini the alarm bells should been ringing

  • 52 snowdone // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Dear Ed,
    At the time of the ‘nutting’ farce Mash showed he was supporting Pardew. He doesn’t want a merry-go-round of managerial changes. Since then the series of defeats and dismal football would normally mean the manager has to go.
    I supported Pardew through many of his tribulations, believing he had been dealt a bad hand. And, indeed he had. Selling your best player in January and not waiting until after the World Cup was financially crazy.

    However, it is the manager’s responsibility to coax performances out of the material he has available. Pardew has lost the dressing room despite the protestations of the loyalists like Shola.

    I agree that the next three games will determine his fate. I have not watched a game since the most recent rot started and that is the biggest indictment against Pardew. In the end he has flattered to deceive.

    Who will succeed him if he goes? We can all name possibilities, but Mash decides.

    I will watch the Arsenal game with trepidation. I would never tell fans what to do with their season tickets. Hopefully, many are holding back with payment as that may be something Mash understands.
    Kind regards,

  • 53 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    jeff

    and that will achieve what exactly???

  • 54 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Would like to add Ronald Koeman name to the possible managerial candidates, his contract is up this year and brings the youth through.

  • 55 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Sparky55>
    I’m no fan of Pardew- I think the guy’s a complete clown and deserves to be ridiculed.

    As for telling me to get a life? Maybe read the rest of what I said in my post-the point being although Rotonda is correct in most of what he says about Pardew he has literally posted more or less the same anti-Pardew comment every hour or so for the last 3 years!

    Yes Pardew’s a joke but but jeezus take a break every now and again and BEFORE he’s even been sacked Rotonda’s slagging off his potential successor!

  • 56 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    70TWO

    The only problem with that is that Koeman has youth to bring through and it’s far easier to do this in a weaker league

  • 57 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    @turkish – Moyes isn’t my choice of manager. but if we’re going for solid, gritty british managers that grind out wins (which we usually do go for) Moyes is a hell of a lot better than your pardews, souness’s, Big Sams etc
    Personally I would break the bank to get Tunchel. I saw Transfersage say yesterday that managers adapt to new leagues quicker than players and I completely agree. Tunchel would be a fine fine choice. Failing that Murat Yakin or Roger Schmidt would be fine choices.
    Just if we have a choice of Lee Clark, Pardew, Neil lennon, Tim Sherwood, Joe Kinnear (all currently in the top 10 bookies poll for next toon manager) id take Moyes over all of those! He’s not the best we could get, but I’d hazard a guess he’s the best this ownership would choose….

  • 58 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    saying that its all a mute point anyway, was on 4m a year at everton and 6m a year at man utd…. Newcastle fined pardew for that headbutt the maximum fine they could. 6 weeks wages. (Max the league allows) 6 weeks wages for pardew was 100,000. Thats roughly 16,500 a week. Thats only (‘only, ha’) £858,000 a year. Heard somewhere that includes a 1m bonus if he reaches his target but thats still a figure miles below what moyes would want…we’d never pay him that!

  • 59 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Jack Butler>

    ANYONE who took over after Fergue was always going to struggle and if your memory stretched back to what Fellaini played like last season when he was a BEAST then most clubs in the workd would have fancied him.

    Just for some reason it hasn’t worked him this season.

    Any team finishes that high regularly and gets into Europe 4 years in 9 or whatever it was on a tiny budget is NOT pathetic.

    Sorry but your wrong there in my opinion.

  • 60 isleofmanman // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    If a new manager was gifted £100m to improve the squad I’d say no to Moyes

    The reality is that the budget will be tight and pragmatism is essential

    Moyes character is stable – which would make a pleasant change – and he doesn’t slag his players off.. He is used to working on a shoe-string budget and gaining the respect of his players

    Yes please. Any time soon would be good…

  • 61 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Jayphoto>

    Spot on, thanks

  • 62 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Jay Photo

    Its Tuchel not Tunchel.

  • 63 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    @HD sorry typo. ha i should know better i’m half German myself

  • 64 jazzyp // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Fergie knew what he was doing when he retired.When they brought back Scholes out of retirement showed there midfield was desperately lacking. The back four for me leaves a lot to be desired,Van persie wants out,And they are not producing youth coming through the ranks like they use to.
    There squad like ours needs a total overhaul ,But unlike our Hierarchy will probably have 100 mill to spend to our tenner.

  • 65 NUFCarter // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Moyes over Pardew is a no brainer (what isn’t?) but I reckon we could still do better. I’d take Rosler, Dyche or Eddie Howe over Moyes

  • 66 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    geordiedan
    the reality of football as we want it is history, foreigners and money have destroyed the english game. people say F1 is rubbish, well i wouldn’t at all be surprised to see football just as bad itself, why? simple to win F1 a team just has to spend money on the right equipment, well to win a league or finish high a football team will just have to spend lots of money on the right players.

    all the top teams in England don’t have many english player so therefore a decent team needs foreign player, the problem is foreign players don’t care at all about the lesser teams and that includes newcastle, we might have a big stadium but in the whole of the north east their is just 3 team who have had premier league.

    most people on the blog are probably foreign, the reason i think that is because when their is an england game their is not much talking at all.
    so as foreign they will want to see the european style of play more than anything.

  • 67 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    GeordieDan

    I work with two season ticket holders at Everton and they will tell you that Fellini turns up a handful of time a season but for the most part he’s average.

    I’m not saying that Moyes is pathetic by any means I’m saying that his record against the top sides is pathetic, he’s a decent manager but never a manager that is going to win a title but was always a manager who was out of his depth at Utd

  • 68 Magpies4Life // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    IF Pardew is to be replaced then I would prefer a far more proven manager. IF.

  • 69 wolfshead@toon // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    dan

    fyi sparky is rotonda :-)

  • 70 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Dan, Van Persie may be a dick sometimes, but that is an awareness of tactics that he is making. One that affects him as a forward. We don’t play with ovelaps and quick passing either which is one one the reasons we are clueless in the final third.

    I don’t think it is an extreme slaggin off of Moyes, who obviously can be a steady and effective manager. More to do with a style of play. One which Baines and Persie, plus Neville have all commented on.

    I’ve said for a long time. Style of play is what you watch, so style of play should probably be the highest priority along with a proven track record. Pardew had neither.

  • 71 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    I would have

    Howard wilkinson
    Gary Megson
    Lawrie Sanchez
    Tony mobray
    Myself
    Transfer Sage
    Jay photo
    Rotonda
    TADS
    Jack Butler
    Ibizatoon

    Before Pardew

  • 72 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Toonking>

    I agree. And if we had the opportunity of bringing in a fresh young manager who loves playing Brendan Rodgers-style pass and move fantasy football then nobody would argue that wouldn’t be amazing for the club (well I bet a couple on here would find some problem with it)

    I think we have more chance of Ashley donating his life savings to Dave Whelan than him giving NUFC fans anything they want though.

    He like 2 things-making money and pissing us off. Nothing more. Why would he care if we watch entertaing football or not?

    The man’s a total ******* ****.

  • 73 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    and LR32

  • 74 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Wolfshead> Cheers mate. :D

  • 75 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    @Laurent – the odd thing is Pardew seems to have this reputation outside of the clubs he’s managed that he plays attacking and dynamic football! It’s bizaare, if i talk to anyone near where I live in the midlands or where I work in London (west ham fans aside) they all seem to be under the impression Pardew teams play good attacking football….
    Atm his football for me is tying Big Sam for worst ive seen here!

  • 76 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Himanshu

    Sorry to say mate but I’m ruling myself out of the running as i simply cant work under Ashley

  • 77 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    JackButler @56

    True enough, but at least he is not Moyes or Laudrup, plus he wants to manage in the PL. Surely paying off Pardew would be cost effective as he is proving a stubborn enough not to walk.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26554276

  • 78 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    i’ve got to admit if football keeps going the way it is i will just about give up following newcastle and move on to just watching local teams because the premier league will be filled with foreign players. yes i would love to see teams play like they do in europe but the thing i want most of all is to have a well respected FA and league cup which is the thing european teams don’t have an interest for, also i’m english so i want to see england in the world cup and that is not going to happen if this league keeps going the way it’s going. finally they might not be as good but atleast carroll barton and nolan had the attitude and were always determined to push the team forward, foreigners will just take the easy root and leave.

  • 79 Sav // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    No-one better will come here to work under what Pardew puts up with.
    There’s a lot to like about Moyes – his presiding over the destruction of ManUtd. foremost among them. But we got 5th place here before the squad cottoned on to the fact that the club has all the ambition of a sewer rat and is rotten at the core. If we were to get anyone, it should be Martinez but that won’t happen under Monster Mash so we are back to Alan Pardew.

  • 80 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    jack…it’s called passion mate….you don’t need class to be passionate, and it’s about time the crowd turned on Pardew and the club and it’s about time that message was delivered with as much passion and vigour as possible. Theres a time and place for class…and IMO it ain’t now.

    Jeff…do your worst mate…I’m right behind you

  • 81 NUFCarter // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Maybe Pardew will resign in the hope that MUFC will snap him up before any other big club does

  • 82 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    @Himanshu- I think i’d have the French Algerian lad who comes on from St Denis… (Niafron? maybe?)
    He seems like the only person on the planet that would be able to get on with HBA :-)

  • 83 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    70TWO

    The reality is that Ashley will be happy enough with Pardew, he’s hitting all his targets, spending next to nothing and not openly questioning or criticising the owner.

    There are plenty of managers out there that could and would be far better then Pardew but Ashley first has to pull the plug on him and seeing’s he did nothing after what Pardew did at Hull, where sacking him could be constituted as gross misconduct and cost him nothing, I seriously doubt he’ll sack him any time soon

  • 84 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Sav @79

    The managerial conditions at NUFC are much like on the continent and would not be unacceptable to the majority of foreign managers/head coaches.

  • 85 jimmysmith // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    He must feel like shit. Yes, the toon job, just what the doctor ordered.

  • 86 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    sparky55

    Causing a riot is passion???

    Sorry mate but that will do far more damage than good, there are way’s and means of showing our discontent and thats not one of them

  • 87 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    HD
    You will pleased to know since your words of encouragement i have put my name forward to NUFC in regards to the managerial role

    I fully intend to appoint Rotonda as 1st team assistant as well as giving the task of finding coaches for the youth set up and identify targets for Carr to focus on
    Ibiza will be my PR man, my right hand man, communication is key after all!

  • 88 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    My god how could i forget Jack Butler!!!! My new DoF and Technical Director!
    Come on Jack get on board we can do this!!

  • 89 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    I don’t honestly think Jeff means an actual riot…it’s just a saying

  • 90 toon kk // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    Pardew is our manager to his contract expires. MA has a business plan of selling our best players for a large profit pardew may not be happy with it but is willing to go with it.
    So MA knows he can’t blame anyone else, not realising there’s other issues with style of play.

  • 91 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    tads

    As long as I get to hire a nice secretary!!!

  • 92 damma99 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    The Glazers want to speak to Pardew.

  • 93 GeordieDan // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Sparky55>

    Isn’t Jeff like 12 years old and you’re condoning him planning a riot?

    I’ll bet you’ll be right behind him-about 2miles behind, in the pub, drinking a shandy- while Jeff and his school pals are getting locked up for emarrassing the city by rioting AGAIN thinking he’s right because persons such as yourself make him think thats the right way to go about it.

    Well done

  • 94 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    JackButler @83

    That is a big worry and indicates that perhaps the relationship between AP and MA is not as bad as we would all hope. However, there may not have been precedence for sacking him for the head-but when there are plenty of other incidence that have not resulted in a loss of job. It all depends on the consequences of missing the target set at the beginning of the season and the very poor decision making of Ashley. Perhaps fans should be reminding Ashley about what AP said on Skys Sunday Supplement!

  • 95 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Jay, that will be the lies and brainwashing which goes on though. People don’t watch his teams often enough, like we do, so theu are taken in by the spin he puts on things in his inteviews.

    It is standard practice for Pardew to comment on performances and they are nothing like what has gone on. Others don’t know any different if they haven’t watched it. He manipulates.

  • 96 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    70TWO

    Ashley may well have another way out but you would have thought that after the Hull game he could have pulled the trigger and not one single person would have questioned or criticised him for doing so?

    For me when the club issued their statement saying he was being fined £100k and warned about future conduct it said that as long as we survive in this league Pardew will keep his job

  • 97 hitman // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    padwho will only go when ashley duz,hes the perfect fit for ashley

  • 98 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    I watched an away game on a steam, we were very poor in the second half and had one shot.

    He said in the post match interview that the subs made an impact. As usual, I was raging. Too many lies and deceiving comments from the silver tongued devil.

  • 99 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    *stream

  • 100 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Laurent Robert 32

    If Pardew said it was a nice sunny day outside I go get my wellies and brolly…………………….the mans a pathological liar

  • 101 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Moyes IN Pardew Out U Cont

  • 102 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    TADS
    the newcastle blog
    owner- mike ashley
    chairman-Jail for ashley
    scout-kets

    Managing director turkish

    manager- catch in norway

    assistant-rotanda

    striker coach-HD

    midfield coach-LR 32

    defensive coach-manxpie

    goal keeper coach- newcastle uniteds own.

  • 103 Scottiedog // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Definitely NO!!

    ask any Everton fan if they would have Moyes back and they will say NO!

    Moyes took a League winning team and destroyed them, not only by tinkering but also with his odd training schedule.

    Would rather keep Pardew

  • 104 Graeme // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    TADS, join the club mate, so have I.
    Can’t possibly be worse than Pardew and I’ll be happy on only £10k a week – I know, magnanamous of me, but the balancing of the books is of paramount importance, as you well know!!!

  • 105 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    It is funny how people want to replace record breaking Pardew with a record breaking Moyes

  • 106 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    @LR yea i’ve noticed that! Got me when he said we were good and unlucky against stoke! We were bloody awful!
    TBH i don’t even think we were the better side against swansea, we have a lot of the ball without looking dangerous…
    For me Pardew doesn’t understand that having all of the possession doesn’t necessarily mean you are controlling the game! Just look at Athletico vs Barca, Athletico had like 29% of the ball but for me controlled that game.
    We have no philosophy and no style. Not Pardews fault 100% as he has no say on who we buy. For a DofF role or chief scout buying the players to work one would think the man buying the players should be on the same wavelength in football philosophy as the manager picking them, ours couldn’t be further apart

  • 107 Sav // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    70TWO @84 – you mean no investment in two successive windows and selling your key player when near the top of the table, half-way through the season? And btw, while Directors of Football are the model in Europe, I haven’t noticed many continental clubs rushing to follow our example of employing a delusional Walter Mitty who has been Missing-In-Action for 10 year and does exactly nowt. Is Old Joe Kinnear working for a top club in Europe now?
    There is nothing in the way things are run at Newcastle which has its roots in any successful European system. We are doing the Mashley Conga all the way to the bottom. Of course, he has to spend something this summer or lose on his investment but right now I can only see a possible purchase of Rangers bringing our misery to an end.

  • 108 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    @sav – if ashley buys Rangers thats worse for NUFC. It’d rule out any chance of us ever competing for Europe. He’d cash in on champions league money with them and TV money for us. Rule is he can’t own 2 clubs in same competition…

  • 109 catchy in norway // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    very happy to be named as manager, I will do my best to play a more attack minded style ,
    to manage my home town club is a dream come true ,
    I won’t comment on the previous management team, other than to say I hope they never work in football again, they give the beautiful game a bad name,

    my first thing I WILL focus on is getting the moral built up again , right now it’s about as low as I have ever seen
    that also goes for the fitness levels, also I think the players expectations need to be raised a lot, 10th is not good enough,

    a happy team will be a better team, I will run a no blame culture, we win and lose as a team , that includes me and my coaches

    again , thank you

  • 110 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    an its funy hw ppl dream of replaceng pardew with big name managers who have won trophis … who would want to even manage our club….. moyes would atleast play players in their proper pos .. n not play off form players

  • 111 catchy in norway // Apr 22, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    and please stay away from moyes, the guy is so negative

    also we can not afford him

  • 112 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    If anyone wants to know how good David Moyes is then simply go and speak to Everton fans and asked them about Roberto Martinez and then ask if they’d have Moyes back

  • 113 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    lol so is pardew

  • 114 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    wen Roberto Martinez has a bad season … den those fan would want moyes back

  • 115 Nufc-83 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Moyes had Everton playing brilliant stuff with attacking fullbacks in baines and coleman. Osman and Pienaar regularly made runs into the box.

    Moyes was given mission impossible with the United side as poor as it is but he is a million times better than Pardew.

  • 116 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Nufc-83

    agree

  • 117 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Nufc-83

    That poor side that Moyes took over won the league last year, have they become so poor in such a short space of time?

  • 118 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    man u is finished

  • 119 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Geordie Dan @ 93 hahahaha LMAO…spat out me tea reading that one! :-)

  • 120 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Jack, yes. Liar and/or absolutely delusional.

  • 121 JAMSHA // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    the day pardew is gone along with M.A il play this song on the streets

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXWIYV5ckdM

  • 122 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    Jay, I agree.

  • 123 toonbrother // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Anyone’s better than Pardumb

  • 124 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Pardews ambition for the season was to finish higher than a manager who has just been sacked

  • 125 toon kk // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Pardew is a sh.t manager, we could do so much better but our squad is made up of mediocre player’s. Yes we have a few talented ones but we hardly European contenders.
    Too many people over rate them.

    it will take far more than a new manager to transfer us into a quality side.

  • 126 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Moyes just another British dinosaur, no thank you .

    Martinez has shown how poor Moyes was and I wonder what Roberto could have done with Man U .

  • 127 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    No french day at NUFC this year?

  • 128 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    It looks highly likely that Stoke and Crystal Palace will finish above us this season.

    I hope so, cause no player let alone coaching staff deserve any extra bonus money.

  • 129 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Himanshu Dhingra

    The French haved packed up luggage for World Cup.

    Its pardew day as usual as everyday is about pardew and his ego.

    I wonder what excuse he’s going to add to his book today or if he could of won the league title if he was on pitch for us..

  • 130 martoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Another happy day on the blog I see :) What about the Burnley manager – he is obviously used to working on tight budgets as he has got them promoted to the premiership with 1 transfer of reportedly about £750 000. He sounds like Ashley’s sort of manager.

  • 131 check the toastie // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Havent Potsed for ages as i have lost the will to live regards NUFC.

    But Pardew is a complete tool, has been since he came, a disgrace and the club is going under, everybody saying Ashley stopped this football club doing a Leeds, if Pardew stays for next season we will record the lowest points total ever in the PL.

    The club is lost, never been so gutted about this club.

    PARDEW OUT NOW….

  • 132 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Graeme
    Very kind of you, admittedly my wage demands were a bit higher, travelling expenses and all (if JFK can do it!)

    JB
    You’ll have the finest damn assistant that money can buy, well that you can buy for £2.50 an hour

  • 133 Blofal // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Moyes is an improvement on Pardew but not attacking enough for my liking.

  • 134 check the toastie // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    David Moyes did a great job at Everton and his team played with aggression, played ‘on the front foot’, and had pace and creativity. He is light years ahead of Parsnip, however he wont come here so i have no idea what folk are discussing it for.

  • 135 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    http://www.sportskeeda.com/football/fake-fb-wall-david-moyes-facebook-status-sacked-manchester-united/

  • 136 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    We at Newcastle can’t afford our own SH!T

  • 137 martoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    Check @133 – I wouldn’t be so sure. His pride will be hurt and reputation ruined. He will get a handsome pay off from Man U and so will be looking to bounce back and prove a point – we could be just the vehicle for him to do that.

  • 138 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    check the toastie
    Fully agree with that

  • 139 Mister Tuff // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    Somebody mentioned Fellaini earlier on -describing him as a beast for Everton. He was ok for Everton -but I always thought he wasn’t that good – not bad in the air – and always good for an elbow in the mug. Never thought he could take Man U further forward as Man U had better players than him I think a lot of Man U fans did not like the signing.
    I think we’ll see over the remaining games they have -an element of player power — through Giggs as caretaker -and I would eat my hat if Fellaini gets any starts. Thinking that his player Fellaini -could do well at Man U to me illustrated that Moyes vision was probably not that good.
    Moyes is probably better than Percy – but no thanks as a replacement.

  • 140 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    http://m.skysports.com/article/football//9277926

    Good read about how all parties shoulder responsibility for very poor performances but at the end of the day you can’t sack 24 players!

    Think this interview could easily apply to our current plight, the manager, the coaches and the players all need a long hard look at themselves in the mirror
    If any of them had any dignity, if we hit 10th, they would forfeit or donate there bonus because they certainly haven’t f**king earned it!

  • 141 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    martoon…if you’re looking to bounce back and make a point then coming to the toon would be the last thing on any managers mind…the ownership would have to change before anyone would take a gamble like that.

  • 142 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    tads

    £2.50 an hour, so I can go up market then!!!……………sign me up buddy :D

  • 143 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Mister Tuff
    Fellaini had a cracking season during his last season at Everton, that said never thought he was a “Man Utd” player
    However he was a player that there fans, along with Baines, we’re screaming for
    The problem was always going to be an ageing squad with good CF’s but little behind them, not a spectacular midfield and a pretty poor defence
    Fergie knew he was bailing at the right time, many on here questioned how he won the league with such a mediocre MUFC team, the same out now berating Moyes for failing with a title winning team

    I think Moyes is a good coach who knew he was going into a team under huge pressure and wanted, as many managers do, to take a couple of trusted pro’s with him
    However he was never going to get Baines, Manure were never going to pay the asking price and Fellaini was perhaps the wrong option
    If he’d of walked off with Baines and Barkley, they’d be hailing him at the moment!

  • 144 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Moyes’s pay off said to be only one years wages as he’s failed to make top four

  • 145 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    JB
    Nothing but the best my friend!!!

  • 146 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    tads

    I’ll go get the Nutella now and be in my office by 08:00 am tomorrow :D

  • 147 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    mick quinn ?@mickquinn1089 2h
    People telling me it could be only a 5 million pay off,cause he didn’t make CL,
    #Stillnotbadworkifyoucangetit
    Only 5 million
    #unbelievable

  • 148 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    JB
    Go easy on the Nutella lad we’ve got a big day ahead of us!

    First thing first we need to find out where Mikey has hidden his wallet

  • 149 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Tads…As owner, what on Earth are you doing mixing it up with the locals?

    As for promising Butler a secretary at £2.50 an hour?!? This isn’t a good start.

    Don’t talk to them and don’t promise then anything. Haven’t you learned anything these past 7 years?

  • 150 theartfuldodger // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Is the way we have played recently, a lot different to the way we play most times under Pardew.
    Or is it only Results that are lacking due to loss of individual flair…

  • 151 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM

    Well worth a read this

    Don Hutchison: It is time for Mike Ashley to sell up and leave

    Forget sacking Alan Pardew, if he had been serious about making Newcastle a force Mike Ashley would never have appointed him in the first place
    Richard Heathcote/Getty ImagesNewcastle United owner Mike Ashley
    There is an interesting rumour doing the rounds in London football circles about the Tottenham job.

    We have all seen Louis Van Gaal’s name connected with it, but a link with Carlo Ancelotti just won’t go away. It has been said to me by enough people who I trust to take it seriously – and what a statement of intent that would be by Spurs.

    At Manchester United, David Moyes is reportedly on the verge of the sack for failing in that job. The board apparently won’t accept failure this year. The same Manchester United, by the way, who beat Newcastle 4-0 just two weeks ago.

    Meanwhile, at Newcastle, five defeats on the spin goes almost unnoticed. The club’s end to the season is disastrous but Alan Pardew limps on. Tim Sherwood can’t open a paper without a new manager being linked with the job, but at Newcastle there’s nothing.

    That sums it up for me. Newcastle is a job that would perfectly suit someone like Frank de Boer, Dennis Bergkamp or even Frank Rijkaard – in short a big name who could generate huge enthusiasm and interest and would play attacking football with the wingers that Newcastle fans like.

    It is a huge job that would interest many managers in Europe. It is a job with real profile and potential for someone who can impose their football philosophy on the club.

    The way the club is at the moment, they wouldn’t target someone like that, and that is what is wrong at Newcastle.

    They think like a club much smaller than they are. The attitude at the top is that ninth or 10th is okay and that is why they aren’t looking to change things and bring in a world-class manager with a reputation to match.

    Let’s be honest, if Mike Ashley cared, he would have sacked Alan Pardew by now. In fact, he would never have appointed Alan in the first place. I have been critical of the manager in recent weeks and Saturday was another massive blow for him. Every week that goes by when his team don’t perform for him is another sign that he is running out of time. With all the rumblings about Hatem Ben Arfa and dressing-room bust-ups it feels like he has lost some of the players now.

    And the excuses he is coming up with beggar belief. When he said that he could have stopped Swansea’s goal if he’d been on the touchline I couldn’t believe it. I just thought, ‘Whose fault is that Alan?’

    But for all that Alan is responsible for this run of defeats, the problems go right to the top. What Ashley has done to Newcastle is awful to watch. He has turned one of the biggest in Europe – with a stadium and fan-base with the potential to break into the elite in England – into a club that aims for mediocrity. This summer is the time for him to sell up.

    I know how much that club means to the city. It is almost unique. I was an apprentice fork-lift truck driver who stood on the terraces at St James’ Park so I know that for many fans it is more important than it is for fans of clubs where I live now in London. The match is the big part of the weekend for most fans, but at the moment they must approach it with dread or complete disinterest.

    I think back to Sir John Hall, the last owner who truly ‘got it’. He is the last person associated with Newcastle who I believe loved the club.

    He was an intelligent man, someone who I admired for what he did there. Everyone since him has been a pretender.

    Ashley’s approach to Newcastle is what has got the club into this situation. The fact of the matter is that he tries to do things on the cheap and he doesn’t care about the club.

    He brought a manager in on the cheap and that’s why he won’t change it now because that is how he runs it. Alan won’t criticise the owner in public or ask for anything so he is the perfect candidate for the club.

    Look at what Ashley has done this year: he sold the club’s best player in a season where Newcastle had an opportunity to really kick on. He has appointed Joe Kinnear.

    He didn’t spend anything on players in either the summer or the winter. It is just not good enough for a club of Newcastle’s size.

    I was with Steve Clarke on Saturday and he is away from the game at the moment but he was at Newcastle on the coaching staff. People in the football world know what a big club it is but it isn’t acting like that under Ashley. Changing managers seems like one solution, but to truly fulfil its potential the club needs new direction from the top.

    It needs someone who cares and is prepared to have a go again. It feels to me like the only solution is that Ashley puts it up for sale and starts looking for a new owner who can get Newcastle fans excited again.

  • 152 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    JB…Ever heard of copying and pasting a link? :)

  • 153 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    Ibiza

    Where’s the fun in that :D

  • 154 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    JB…It’s all about personal preference, for me it’s the pasting part. Boy is it exciting ;)

  • 155 G // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    If anybody believes Moyes would be better than Pardew, they are mistaken. Look at the facts, the man took over the reigning Premier champions, was allowed to spend significant monies strengthening, and cannot string a couple of good results together because he cannot get his team playing together is not a man I want in charge of Newcastle. Don’t get me wrong here, I rate Moyes a manager who can rebuild a side who are being promoted from a lower division, or a bottom half team who need an entire rebuild. We have a decent team, we simply lack a manager who knows how to deploy them correctly.

  • 156 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    Ibiza

    You are easily please my friend :D

  • 157 bishopblaize // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    Even when Moyes was at Everton he was one of highest paid managers in PL so he would just carry out his duties and not bad mouth about lack of ambition.

    Now look .. Give the man a bone and a blank cheque book and failed to impress.

    Maybe we should be looking at trailing Ryan Giggs

    His own personal training methods away from the club have no doubtbly made him one of fittest men for his age in the game.

    Anyway, does anyone know the real figure to payout Pardew?

  • 158 Carl819 // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    He is a miserable, overrated Scottish tw4t. Look how far Everton have come since he left and Martinez got the job, I’d have him even though he defended the indefensible when the Wigan thug was trying to break Haidaras’ leg. He reminds me of Sourness and Allardyarse, always someone else’s fault.

  • 159 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    Ibiza
    I’m revolutionising football mate!

    By the way i need to discuss your requested bonus scheme there are some issues
    8 packs of Dry Roasted peanuts, do you think we’re made of money, think of the books ffs!

  • 160 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    G
    We don’t have a decent team, we have a team of utility players who struggle to live up there hype

  • 161 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    JB…You’re not the first person to say that!

    Tads…Dry roasted? It was supposed to be Honey Roasted ffs! What sort of mickey mouse club are you running here?

    Bring back Pardew, at least he knew a bit about nutting.

    Anyway, must dash. Bye for now.

  • 162 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    tads

    I think we do have a decent team, they are just lost and unmotivated under Pardew, his tactics and style are questionable at best and he kill’s any freedom and creative flair from players. He wants work horses and nothing more

  • 163 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Lol
    @gregthehutch: http://t.co/nr9rPheZ6C pissing meself laughing at this. @TrueGeordieNUFC applies for the vacant managing position at @MUFC #doubleglazers

  • 164 lesh // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Discussing Moyes sacking on Jeremy Kyle show (does it really merit national coverage?) and the compere’s ‘Still waiting to heat from a Man U supporter…… from Manchester!!

    :)

  • 165 G // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    TADS, our team is far stronger than most in the Prem. Realistically I would say our squad strength is minimum top 8. The idiot in charge is the problem, that’s just my opinion though.

  • 166 Nufc-83 // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Nufc-83

    That poor side that Moyes took over won the league last year, have they become so poor in such a short space of time?

    In essence yes that is correct. AF had such a huge impact and these where his players who totally overachieved last season. Last season was also a terrible premiership as most of the top teams had a period of transition and Man U took advantage to win a poor league. Look at the players they have and apart from the sts they look like a mid table side at best. I would also say RVP basically won them the league last year and when things didnt go his way he has spat his dummy out and seems like he has hung Moyes out to dry.

    For me Moyes had an impossible task but didnt make best use of the money he was given as they are crying our for a worls class CB. He done a poor job at United i will say that but he is still a million miles better than Pardew.

  • 167 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:30 PM

    I’ll be on later and there better be some good news ;)

  • 168 JP...from The Rock // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    I think Moyes is a better manager than Pardew. Tactics wise I think he leaves Pardew in shame. I would take Moyes, Laudrup or Clarke ahead of any of the undesirable candirates Ashley will know doubt be think of (Kinnear!). I am all for a change now, we need one. Pardew’s incapability to get the team motivated in this half of the season has clearly shown his colours and how bad he really is.

    Ferguson thought that Moyes was good enough for Man Ure and we can’t disregard his judgement so easily.

    Besides beggars can’t be choosers!

  • 169 Go toon gooooo // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    If Newcastle want slow start at the season and around 6-8 place at the end then Moyes is the ideal manager.Di Matteo,Redknapp and even Laudrup will do other than that with this Newcastle team.And dont’t mention Rodgers.He has probably the best modern footballer on the earth-Suarez.And Martinez has a lot of battles to win to prove that he is top class manager.And Pardew was 5 in his first season.Di Matteo and Redknapp is the kings and are(I DON’T KNOW WHY)still available.

  • 170 toon kk // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    What does so many want Moyes as our manager for? He maybe be an improvement on pards but still a similar style.

    Newcastle fans over rate our squad, we’re just average in fact below average, it will take more than a new manager to transform our basic squad. We have a championship side relying on half a dozen to win us a game if we’re lucky.

    A new tactical manager would improve us but without the correct backing we’re still a mid table squad.

  • 171 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    Nufc-83

    You would expect a drop off to where Fergie had them but they have broken just about every record this season under Moyes while Roberto Martinez has gone in at Everton and turned them into a champions league contending side that play stunning football.

    People can make as many excuses for Moyes as they like but the truth is he’s taken a championship winning side and turned them into an average side in less than one season

  • 172 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    Nufc-83

    As for Moyes being better than Pardew?

    Well thats a no brainer as my nan would do a better job than Pardew and she’s been dead for the past 12 years

  • 173 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    JB
    Think we have a team where the lack of investment is glaringly obvious tbh
    We have one top FB with 3 potentially good FB’s
    We have one seasoned CB, one potentially good CB and two CB who realistically should squad players, granted Willo has been great this season!
    A very Defensive midfield
    No width
    Only one goal scoring CF
    One out of shape winger come number 10

    Think there’s a real lack of depth and quality tbh

  • 174 martoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    sparky55 @140 – Under normal circumstances I would agree with you but Moyes will be desperate to get back into football. Actually this is all academic as Ashley is not going to sack Pardew anyway.

  • 175 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    Di Matteos still available because technically he’s still a Chelsea employee until the end of 2015 season sitting on £120k per week…. its pretty complicated but think that means Chelsea can claim compensation as they have retained his contract and are just paying him in full as they were when he was manager….
    says a lot about the guys ambition that he’s content taking the mega wages (6th highest paid in the world i believe for a manager) than he was getting a job whilst his profile was high

  • 176 Nufc-83 // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    For me our team with the quality in it has finished in a position that it should have as i would rate our 1st team as follows:

    Krul – Mid to top half GK
    Debuchy – Top 4 RB
    Williamson- Bottom 6 CB
    Colo – Mid table CB
    Santon – Bottom 8 LB
    Sissokho – Mid table RM
    Tiote- Top 6 CDM
    Cabaye- Top 4 CM
    Anita- Bottom 8 CM
    HBA- (so hard to say) Top 8 could be more could be less impossible to say
    Remy- Top 6 st
    Shola- League 1 st
    LDJ- Championship st
    Cisse – League 1 st (without goals he has nothing)
    Gosling- Championship cm

    Seems like a fair league position however it is the manner of defeats and the stupid decision that mean Pards deserves to be sacked. His ego also annoys the hell out of me especially when he stands there saying we had no desire, no passion like he isn’t meant to be motivating the players!!

  • 177 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    tads

    the question is what would players like Cisse do under a better coach? the lad came here scoring for fun but has been destroyed by Pardew. HBA, Marveuax, Biggie have all be cast aside for favourites.

    Not saying we have a squad full of world beaters but we have a squad that is capable of so much more than what Pardew is now capable of getting out of them.

    Yes we have holes in the squad but the manager has proven that he has no idea how to best use the players that he does have

  • 178 geordie157 // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    A decent owner would consider moyes but ours is happy with his puppet pardew.

    Moyes may not bring the flair football we want but he will get the side organised, play players in their natural positions, give youngsters a chance, work with a limited budget and also bring in good young British players for decent prices and develop them.

  • 179 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    @jackbutler – Cisses an odd one, was scoring for fun in Germany but freiburg actually improved after he left. Tactically he had no job to do there other than put the ball into the net… feel like maybe his problem is football intelligence….great instinctive player but no footballing brain

  • 180 Nufc-83 // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Jack Butler i really dont agree as you would say you expect a drop off but if you look at the teams who have improved would the man u of last season with Ferguson finished ahead of Liverpool, Chelsea and City of this season? For me they would not have and even Arsenal would be above them and then you take fergy out so his position is not miles away from where they should be.

    The argument comes when you say look at the money he has invested which has worked out badly for him but maybe being at a club who give him huge money is not a good fit.

    Moyes done a great Job at Everton and the players who are performing well now are players he brought in but Lukaku is a massive player for any team.

  • 181 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    martoon @ 173…You are indeed 100% correct.

  • 182 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    JB
    When Cisse left Freiburg there was a huge article about despite his goals, losing him was in fact massively beneficial to the team and there style of play
    Amir Zaki was full of goals in his first season, Cisse got far more game time up front in a 442 than people will admit to and yeah got shifted wide but not til very late on in games
    He’s had plenty of opportunity this season, and not delivered, I’m sorry for me he also has to shoulder responsibility, I said mid way through last season, he’s the player that when the teams flying he’ll happily sit up top and take the headlines, but when there’s fight needed he’ll go hiding, he never tries to beat the first CB in the air and rarely challenges for the ball
    HBA is a strange one and don’t think we’ll ever know the full story
    Bigi, we signed from the fizzy pop, he looked a good prospect but signing Anita should of seen him go on loan
    Marv p1sses me off, he gets so much undeserved hype it’s untrue, in France he spent near on his whole damn career as a bench warmer at a mid table ligue 1 club, why did people think we were signing Messi? Sorry for me he’s a waste of wages and will gladly see the back of him in the summer

  • 183 AaranD // Apr 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    IF we were to continue down the road of British managers, then Sean Dyche would be my pick. Plays technically good football but also drives for that team ethic and togetherness , something we have lacked for years. Granted a risk but right now I can’t see much else coming from the current crop of staff at Newcastle.

  • 184 veto // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:11 PM

    no thanks .

  • 185 Wee Willie Thompson // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    My first post after reading so much crap, what a bunch of winging …………, there are 11 clubs below us who would happily finish in 9th place, well done Pardew, as in any business he has done exactly what the owner wants, well done Ashley for putting the club on a financially stable footing, something that can be built on, unlike the money grabbing Hall’s and Shepard’s, allot seem to have very short memories, exciting football but a club almost bankrupt, the club is in a bit of a rough patch relatively speaking, look were Sunderland are, reading some of your comments, some would like the club to be down there, on the assumption Ashley would sell the club, he has the skin of a rhinoceros that’s why he is such a good businessman, he couldn’t care less what people think of him, so conclusion, you ain’t going to change anything so as the song goes Smile Be Happy




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