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Newcastle Could Delay Decision On Ben Arfa

2:01 pm, Tuesday, April 22nd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 142 Comments

27 year-old Hatem Ben Arfa is due to return to Newcastle this week after having treatment at the France Clairefontaine Football Academy just outside of Paris, and he will be assessed to see if he is ready to play at the Emirates on Monday night.

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Ben Arfa – in action at Stoke City

With Newcastle sinking like a rock these days the last three games have become important for a few reasons – one is we have a target to at least finish in the top ten, and if we don’t and don’t do well over the last three games of the season, that could even be curtains for manager Alan Pardew.

And there have been reports over the last few games that Alan Pardew and Ben Arfa have no exactly see eye to eye and some of the experienced players at the club don’t think he has earned his place on the bench – because he doesn’t work enough for the side.

Ben Arfa has been in Paris since last Thursday, and most of our French players do return to the Academy just outside Paris for treatment.

With Ben Arfa’s contract running out in fourteen months Newcastle will be forced into a decision on the striker – whether to sell him, give him a new contract or potentially take up a one year option on his contract – if one exists.

But Newcastle cannot make a decision on the mercurial one until it’s clear who will be the Newcastle manager at the end of the season.

Alan Pardew’s record this year has been simply horrendous with only four wins in the last 18 games and 13 defeats. :(

So it seems that Mike Ashley will need to make a decision at the end of the season, as to whether he persists with Alan Pardew, or whether he decides to make a change and bring in a new manager – like Davide Moyes – as just one example.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Hatem Ben Arfa · Newcastle News · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours



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142 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    Are we the only club that always allows our players to travel oversea’s for treatment on their injuries? As it seems that as soon as someone gets a knock their off to the airport to return to their motherland

  • 2 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM

    pretty sure a decision on Ben Arfa was made months ago…
    Doesn’t get on with the manager
    Doesn’t get on with the captain
    Has had fall outs with Krul, Cabaybe, Gouffran and shola since he’s been at the club
    Few shimmys and tricks on the half way line ain’t gonna cover up those cracks

  • 3 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    also skipped out of every team building get away and tour we’ve done since he’s been here….

  • 4 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    I meant Rhodes

  • 5 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Wonder if any player who are a tad injured – and who are not happy – would delay any return as much as possible?

    …I probably would ;)

  • 6 Bambams // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    I have thought long and hard about this…..

    We need to replace Pardew AND I believe we will at the end of the season at the latest.

    Question is will Moyes/Another come to the Toon under Ashley and his ways…..

  • 7 Bambams // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    In the words of Columbo “I just dont know”

  • 8 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    pretty sure judging on how they’re playing that most of our lads have been assured of their world cup places and are just seeing the season out ie: Debuchy, Sissoko, Tiote, Remy.
    The only players really with anything to play for in our side are Dummett (playing to keep santon out), De jong, shola and gosling (playing for contracts)

  • 9 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM

    JB
    starting shola and gosling may seem stupid but i think pardew is getting fed up with some and with HBA the whole squad are annoyed to see HBA starting now.
    pardews tactics are rubbish but that still didn’t stop cabaye remy and ba from all showing decent performances to attract attention from the bigger teams. HBA and marvo are two players we know are going to be sold in the summer (atleast expecting) so reall if cabaye ba and remy can do it why couldn’t HBA cisse and marvo?

    as for starting shola and gosling i think the reason for that is because at the minute we as a club are in as bad a state as the season which we got relegated, the foreign players won’t be bothered about us and really don’t need the manager because those who are leaving should be proving how good they are for other teams to buy them.
    the season we got promoted back into the league was in many ways because of nolan barton and carroll who were all players with the sort of attitude that a team in chaos needs.

    the decision on armstrong is the stupidest one pardew is doing at the minute because he is the one player who is determined to do his best for newcastle.

    what ashley needs to do in the summer is bring in more of the type of players with the passion of williamson who has this season been my player of the season.

  • 10 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Jayphoto…Come on, they’ve pretty much all assured us fans that they’re playing for the shirt still, don’t you believe them? :)

  • 11 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Pardew subs Gosling and leaves Shola on for the whole game,when Shola was dead on his feet.

  • 12 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    What shirt are they playing for?

  • 13 toon kk // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    The wife has friends and family darn south and they were asking what’s happening with our joke club. They couldn’t get over how sh.t we are these days.

  • 14 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    You should say it’s due to the input of the clowns from darnsarf that the club is tinged with excrement.

  • 15 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    validator…That is a very good question.

    Maybe it was lost in translation?

    Instead of “We’re playing for the shirt” see, “We’re playing sh*t”?

  • 16 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Or even we’re playing for sh*te management.

  • 17 Jamseyd24 // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Pardew is here to stay, get used to it folks.

  • 18 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    A few players maybe woth a punt on from teams facing Relegation :

    West Brom – Amalfitano & Sessegnon

    Norwich – Fer, Redmond & Hooper

    Cardiff – Much,Caulker & Noone

    Fulham – Sidwell & Holtby

    Mackems – Giacherrini, Colback, Wickham, Johnson & Borini

    Any more ? .

  • 19 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Jamesy you maybe a little premature in your assumptions regarding pardews grip on power.

  • 20 oldbobaycliffe // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    nothing will change as regards pardew until the final count on season ticket renewals in a couple of months time.if it is down by 10,000-14,000 as has been rumoured then pardew will go

  • 21 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    I’ve just heard a rumour that Pardew will be sacked within the next 48 hours but it won’t be Moyes taking over as Remi Garde is top of Ashley’s wanted list as he is experienced at managing well within a tight budget, has anyone else heard this rumour ?

  • 22 AaranD // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    Holtby and Caulker are two which I’d take personally.

  • 23 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    Big Pappa…Best shout there is no one. Ashleys ideal target each window. Too easy? Oh okay.

    I haven’t watched too many of any of those teams games tbh, but Caulker seems to be getting lots of recognition this season.

    How about one of the relegation teams managers? :)

    Spoof…Easy now…

  • 24 Jamseyd24 // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Spoof, your name is appropriate considering your last post. Like I said before Pardew is going no where
    Val, do you really think MA cares if the players respect Pardew, he does as he is told doesn’t speak out and keeps us in the PL. Here to stay.

  • 25 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Ibiza

    personally I think it is rubbish but Garde has done well without much support so I can understand the link, but the 48 hour’s part makes me believe that it is total nonsense, but you never know, ecspecially with Ashley.

  • 26 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    How about looking upwards in the pursuit of players instead of buying inferior talent which inevitably leads to relegation battles.

  • 27 t00ntime // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    the thing is with HBA, lots of fans complain and say he is lazy, not a team player etc and then talk about since Cabaye leaving we dont create as may chances.
    In reality hba has created/scored more goals per min than cabaye (all comps) and in the premier league he has created more chances and has a better passing accuracy than Cabaye.
    No he doesnt add as much to the team as cabaye but when cabaye left AP should of found away to intergrate him in to the sqaud asap, becuse we lacked creativity and he was (still is) statistically our 2nd best attacker per min (only remy better). now I think its too late for him, he has fallen out with AP and supposedly with his team mates too.

  • 28 t00ntime // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    created more chances per minute*

  • 29 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    Jamsey

    I tend to agree that he is going no where, why sack and pay compensation now when he could have sacked him for gross misconduct and pay no compensation after the headbutt, however strange things do happen in the Newcastle boardroom !

  • 30 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    Spoof…Seeing as it’s Ashley we’re talking about, I expect to see news of Pardew getting a new 10 year contract within the next 48 hours :)

    Social media is busy at work mate, plus summer is nearly upon us. I get the feeling we’ll be hearing lots and lots, what we’ll see however…

  • 31 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Spoof

    mate your always good for a laugh and to try to get peoples hopes up.

    I salute you ;)

  • 32 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Ibiza

    your probably right, the silly season may have started early.

  • 33 weg // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    With regards to Ben Arfa, is it not the fact that he is the only player trying to attack the opposition defence, and when he gets blocked out, there’s no movement from the rest of our team to help him out. And he gets caught in possesion, because the rest of the team is towing Pardew’s defensive line. No movement, no vision and no options! I think we all know, Ben Arfa would shine in a creative attacking team. Pardew’s defensive tactics completely nullify HBA’s strengths.

  • 34 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    how long has Lee Charnell been at Newcaste?

    about 12-15 years now? maybe he’s got MA thinking that we need a new manager and if we keep Pardew sales, sponsors, merchandise ect,ect will drop substantially

  • 35 cyprus // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    On HBA: Let the NEW coach decide. If I had a say, keep him over most (95%) of our squad.

    On that Championship forward: yes, that’s what NUFC do, catch players on their way up, not down. That’s why I don’t want Ba back. When they come here from ‘better’ teams, they suck (ask Kluivert, Owen etc. for more details).

    On Moyes: like O’Neal, he’s on a downhill slide. Maybe he can do the pundit thing. Feel sorry for him, but, we have continental players, we need a continental coach. Give Laudrup a call, maybe he’ll bite.

  • 36 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    B & W

    I’m not sure if it would be building hopes up, I’m not sure how Garde would be welcomed here ?

  • 37 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    The enigmatic Hatem Ben arfa should have moved on long ago, he has seen his career fizzle out into obscurity under this ludicrous management team, who neither know or plainly don’t care about how to utilise players of his calibre.

  • 38 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Ashley ‘lining his own pockets’? More like running NUFC into the ground:

    http://www.toontastic.net/2014/04/all-other-clubs-continue-growth-while-mike-ashley-shrinks-newcastle/

  • 39 Ancientcoptic // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    “With Ben Arfa’s contract running out in fourteen months Newcastle will be forced into a decision on the striker – whether to sell him, give him a new contract”

    This makes it sound very simple. The bigger question is: why would Ben Arfa want to sign a new contract with us?

  • 40 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Spoof

    at this moment mate I think any manager would be welcomed here, well except hoofball merchants like Pulis or and Iv’e read this somewhere Moyes.

    Garde has been known to play attacking style which in our case needs to be implemented into Newcastle but personally I would go for Bielsa or Baup providing other clubs haven’t snap them up.

  • 41 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    This is the chance all those French Owners have been waiting for, dangle a contract in front of HBA and leave him swinging until Ashley is forced to sell him for nothing in January.

  • 42 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    This summer will see Newcastle United reach an impasse and the club must decided whether or not it carries on the same way or it moves in another direction.

  • 43 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    in all fairness I think all the players need to consider requesting a transfer.

    Sissoko is my favourite player at Newcastle but I believe under Pardew he will be wasted here which is just a shame considering we should build a team around him because in a few years time he will be a top players with the likes of Madrid and Barcelona offering stupid offers for him

  • 44 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Pardew going no-where until the club is sold resulting in the new owner sacking the useless turd on the spot, or until the fat controller makes his move on rangers next summer just after Pardew leads us into the championship.

    Pardew has done everything he’s been told to do and is a loyal servant to him who owns his gambling debts…so no sacking in the near future and no smiling faces coming our of SJP for a while just yet.

    newcastle are the only club with an owner with no ambition but to have free advertising in the premiership…that’s all that matters because as hutchinson said this morning…if he had ambition he wouldn’t have employed pardew would he?

  • 45 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    validator

    there is no direction at Newcastle and I don’t think there will be any signings in the summer unless they are out of contract.

    in MA eyes we have reserves and youth team willing to step up and when you look closely we have reserve players who can fill every spot on the first team

  • 46 Black and White with an army lol // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    sparky55

    spot on mate

  • 47 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Ladies and Gentlemen 100% iron clad proof that Pardew will still be manager next season…….

    @cwarr07: Don’t shoot the messenger but hearing that there are already moves afoot by Ashley to make Moyes manager of #NUFC

    Hahahahahahahahahaha ahhh Cwarr you tw@ you crack me up!

  • 48 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    B a W

    a new manager would be welcomed by most, but not all, I’m in the minority as I would stick with Pardew, it’s not due to a belief that I feel he is a great manager who can win things for us, not at all, but when you consider that over the last five years our spending is somewhere in the region of £45m less than what we have spent then you have got to ask yourself just who could have done better, personally I doubt that there are many if any, so getting rid of him would be a huge risk, getting into the top 4 is not on the agenda so getting a top 4 manager will not happen and if a new manager does arrive and struggles to assemble a squad as he surely will under Ashley then you have to be fearful of just where we could be heading, remember Wolves and Charlton were wanting rid of McCarthy and Curbishley because the fans felt that they had taken the club as far as their abilities would allow, it may not be great under Pardew but it could be a whole lot worse.

  • 49 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    A new manager would be good for both the club and us bloggers :) would kill off a few discussions and add something new to talk about!

    …it is getting s bit tire some hearing all the know it all explaining us slow people how it is with both Benny and Marv!

  • 50 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    at TADS – Damn it Colin! always dashing my hopes of pardew being sacked or us signing players! Can anyone remember the last time that guy got something right? He had a run about 2-3 seasons back where he called a few things right but since then he can’t hit a barn door with a hand full of corn

  • 51 cyprus // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    I disagree. This manager has taken us backwards with a better set of players. Fire him now, MA (or right after we finish 12th with 47 points)

  • 52 theartfuldodger // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    I agree with Pardew out, but first things first please…

    SHOLA OUT !

  • 53 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Also, theres no chance of Ashley working with Moyes! Fair enough Moyes didn’t spend much and did sell big players at Everton but their owner (a friend of my grandads actually) has always been honest with Moyes and with the fans about transfers and what they can and can’t spend! Moyes, regardless of football style is a strong character, hes no corporate yes man, no chance he’d work for an establishment that makes their manager look a fool like ashley has with Pardew on numerous occasions!
    My bet would be Van Gaal to Man Utd and Moyes to Spurs! Daniel Levy loves a british manager

  • 54 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Just had a thought, one that may disturb everyone so thought I’d share it.

    Imagine Pardew getting fired over the next couple of days with Shola coming in as player / manager until the end of the season?

    Personally I’m all for it, I need a good laugh.

  • 55 kimbo // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    We might as well sign a championship strikers as that`s where we will be after next season. If 50K muppets turn up for each home game and accept the garbage being put in front of them and do not voice their disgust at the way Ashley runs the club and the team formation that person (I can`t bring myself to mention his name) comes up with then they deserve everything they get.
    WHAT IS WRONG WITH PLAYING GOUFFRAN AS A STRIKER STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE?HE ISNOT A DEFENDER.

  • 56 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    to be fair to the comments about moyes and how he plays football! In 12/13 years i’ve never seen a moyes team roll over consistently like we have since december! If hes the only upgrade we have on offer from the fat man in the sky over pardew then sign him up! David moyes might feel like being shown a middle finger but pardew feels like youve been punched in the face, i know what id prefer

  • 57 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    jayphoto

    so if appointing our manager was your choice who would you choose, amongst those who would possibly take it.

  • 58 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Jayphoto
    Colin is to the ITK world what Lawro is to the score prediction world!

    Unwritten rule, always go with the opposite of what they say!

  • 59 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Moyes was never going to come here and Mike Ashley would of never hired him in the first place anyway…

    Its just a way media used for betting companies for people to waste money and stick there bets on who the next manager will be.

    They only looked at the past and saw his attributes with Everton, and now that many fans even own NUFC fans think we are a mid-table club without no ambition, the media have used this to influence NUFC fans to make a bet… they get profit out of it either way and nufc fans fell for it.

  • 60 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Ibiza

    seriously, Shola is a very intelligant and well educated man, if intelligence was translated into football management he would be fantastic, this is not a wind-up as Shola is an extremely clever man.

  • 61 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    lol

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bl1QOrcCEAECR_F.jpg

  • 62 Ibizatoon // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Spoof…Can you imagine the blog meltdown?

    Never met Shola, so will take your word on his intelligence levels. He must have something going for him to have lasted so long at the club, bless him.

  • 63 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Turkish
    Bit like you did with Garde?

  • 64 BandB // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Does anyone else worry that it sometimes doesn’t look a lot like we are being treated like a going concern?
    We are a brand name in the SD portfolio. The business model rarely sees them upgraded, does it?
    It is a kind of lingering, zombified afterlife until they fade altogether.
    Why should it be any different for us because we are a football club? One he may have acquired in error and been stuck with. Until now.

  • 65 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Ibiza
    Shola would look quality on the touchline, best hat chosen,he’s kind if like the Chris Eubank of football
    Eye for design, good talker, very intelligent, slightly camp but you’d be to f**king scared to tell him he’s a tit!!!!

  • 66 bobby mango // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    We need to get rid of Pardew and all his staff. Pardew isn’t solely to blame for our terrible set piece records and decide in player ability.
    The whole lot need a clear out.

    Clarke, Laudrup, Moyes… In fact I’d have Warnock if it meant Pardew was gone (joking about the last one)

  • 67 lochinvar // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Ashley isn’t going to waste money on paying off Pardew just to get Moyes who will have no passion for the job and will be sitting on £5 million pay off from the mancs. He doesn’t need the hassle – he should go the States or Middle East and enjoy more sunshine and less grief. We certainly don’t want second hand Managers from the old school – Newcastle needs an up and coming European minded Magager who can bring vision, knowledge and passion and no baggage – he ( or she) must be out there – only problem is I don’t know who they are! If the Manchester players gave up playing in matches that didn’t matter anymore to them (eg the Prem not Europe) to force Moyes out – is that not we have seen with the Newcastle team in recent weeks – are they sending a signal that they’ve had enough of Pardew? No to Pulis, no to Moyes. Just a case of deciding who and when.

  • 68 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Ibiza

    the meltdown would be good fun ?, if he did take over, putting intelligence to one side I just hope he would not be the striker coach ?, god help us if he was, ” that’s it bonny lad, aim for the corner flag, I made a good career doing that “

  • 69 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    TADS

    Yes because I used the propaganda media, made all fellow toon fans bet and waste there money on something for my gain?

    Get a life.

  • 70 theartfuldodger // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Can anyone answer this :

    If we aim to be a top 10 side regularly, then why dont we plus gaps with decent players
    Wingers-Redmond,Sinclair,Arnautavic
    strikers-Shane Long

    Something like that..Why do we wait window after window for better players when we have no god damn ambition.
    Why do you want a Debuchy or a Sissoko or a MYM..
    Why not a Sinclair,Long,Redmond,Mariappa..Assemble such decent players and 1 or 2 good ones and you have a top 10 squad that is not overly ambitious..
    Add a few characters like nolan barton and they wudnt get demotivated either…

    So is Sell On Value the only reason ?? The plan seems to have gone astray with too much waiting and departing players lining up..

  • 71 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    Why do people keep mentioning Lee Clark?
    He’s on the brink of getting Birmingham relegated!

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Ibiza…that is because he is considered furniture at this point ;)

  • 73 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    If a poll was carried out about Newcastle United supporters and how they perceived the club and its standards, it would probably show about 90% of the fan base as cretinous low achievers, prepared to settle for second best.

  • 74 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    @spoof – my first choice would be thomas tuchel of Mainz! amazing forward thinking coach, seen him go to the Allianz and not only play for the win but Mainz where the better side. Hes taken Mainz as far as they can hope to go really and is on a pittence of a salary.
    After Tuchel, I quite like Leonardo who has admitted he would like to manage in the premier league! I’ve liked him when i’ve heard his punditry. Same with Stiojkovic over in Japan! Great philosophys on the game, teams play with freedom.
    If we are stuck for a British coach I would opt for Sean Dyche or Steve Mclaren! Seen mclaren make miracles in Holland, unfair time in Germany but i live near derby and hes doing amazing things there with really only a couple of talented youngsters and journeymen

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    Turkish
    I meant buying into something based on little more than hearsay but hey ho

  • 76 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    Wolfshead is Geordie Dan!

    Geordie Dan

    If you spoke your mind you would be speechless.

    Just because I called Pardew a long time ago doesn’t make me any worse than the people who have finally woken up to him.

    I never said I wanted Moyes. I’ve said for years we need a Euro manager with 21st century tactics.

    Yes Moyes is light years ahead of Pardew, let’s face it Geordie Two’s honey badger is, but Moyes is not a Martinez / Rodgers type which hopefully is where football is heading now.
    – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - –

    That sums it up for me. Newcastle is a job that would perfectly suit someone like Frank de Boer, Dennis Bergkamp or even Frank Rijkaard – in short a big name who could generate huge enthusiasm and interest and would play attacking football with the wingers that Newcastle fans like.

  • 77 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    id happily take shearer back over pardew tbh

  • 78 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    tads

    people mention Lee Clark because he is a Geordie who obviously loves the club, what they seem to forget is that ability is more important, you mention the job he has done at Birmingham, don’t forget Huddersfield where he was clearly holding them back, as soon as they got rid of him they improved greatly and got promoted, he has a very poor record, but he is a Geordie, blind love for one of our own, it’s pathetic really.

  • 79 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    Is the Sports Direct brand being damaged by continuing with Pardew as manager or will showing consistency and stability be more profitable?

    Mike Ashley needs to consider this question whilst enduring the hot sunshine of a Caribbean beach. He certainly has been making hay whilst cutting down the ability of NUFC to compete, but for how much longer can that continue in the face of declining season ticket sales?

    Will adding 2 new players this summer keep NUFC in the PL next season?
    Will Pardew the manager be able to avoid relegation?
    Will Ashley wait until January before passing judgement?

  • 80 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    I would suggest that 90 something percent of the bloggers on this site want Pardew gone and all day we’ve been discussing who we should be getting as a replacement…but it’s Moyes who got sacked…not Pardew…and Pardew aint going anywhere because he’s delivering the Ashley vision with unerring accuracy…the only thing he did wrong was get to 47 points too quickly then stop….he should have worked his way slowly to 47 points and he wouldn’t have got half as much stick!

    Oh…and for the Avoidance of doubt…PARDEW OUT! :-) IMO he’s fcuking useless….even though I know he aint going anywhere anytime soon.

  • 81 BandB // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    I have a big worry.
    It is that lots of us think we may have wised-up and become a lot more cynical than we were a couple of years ago.
    And that they have become vastly more cynical too. With the effect that our hopes are even more misplacedly naive and optimistic now than they were then.
    I wonder if Ashley has given a nanosecond of thought to Moyes, or Garde or even Pardew today?
    He may watching the season ticket returns.
    Are we still a football club in any meaningful sense of the word?

  • 82 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    Spoof
    Sadly agree mate, being local buys a lot of time
    Birmingham play awful football and are truly in the brown stuff

    As you say he really struggled at Huddersfield especially towards the end of his tenure
    Does make you laugh when you have people saying hell no to Moyes as his previous very good 11 seasons at Everton get wiped by a poor 10 months at Man Utd but then say Lee Clark!!!

  • 83 70TWO // Apr 22, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Would you put Ronald Koeman on that list, now out of contract having taken the Rotterdam club in to the Champions League and he wants to come to the Premier League.

  • 84 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    don’t go there Jay…Shearers a great No 9 but a useless commentator, a useless pundit and a sh!te manager.

    Shearer should be what Sir Bobby Charlton is to Man U…A figure head of decency and greatness used to attract players to the club….nothing more…nothing less…he has nothing to offer when it comes to management.

  • 85 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    You gotta love old Shola, but the best joke all year is Shola as a ”striker coach”. Could you see Shola telling a young lad where to make runs and move in to space and work tirelessly closing down from the front over 90 mins!

  • 86 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    jayphoto

    I don’t know the first 3 you mentioned (as manager’s) but McClaren would struggle due to his time with England, which is unfair as he has at club level done well, I bet the Boro wish they still had him, he’s another which will make people squirm, at every club he has managed (apart from Sunderland) he has improved hugely, special agent Steve Bruce, he always gets teams performing better than what they should which is proven when you look at how they descend when he goes (I include Sunderland), but as with Sam Allardyce, would his Sunderland connection give him no chance from the off ?

  • 87 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    BandB
    Ashley won’t of given two thoughts as too given Pardew the boot, he’s hit his targets the football doesn’t matter
    Where in the league for another season, we’ve got the TV cash to stack onto the Cabaye money, season tickets were renewed before Cabs was flogged
    It’s a golden age for Mikey boy and he’s loving every carefree minute

  • 88 TurkishFan101 // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    Rotonda heights

    No doubt managers like Frank De Boer, Dennis Bergkamp, Frank Rijkaard or Rémi Garde would love to manage a big club like NUFC.

    The thing is, I don’t know what the problem with Mike Ashley is.

    When he came to the club, he wanted the absolute best for it and spent and backed up managers although he had no football knowledge he tried to bring in people that he thought that knew about football but it failed.

    He has spent countless millions on the youth academy and prospects which simply did not cut it and had to be released or sold to lower divisions or even divisions which people knew existed.

    He still is spending millions on the Youth Academy.

    He has made many bad mistakes over the years and still continue to does and its been all due to the lack of trust he has in the club and it has proven disastrous for him previously.

    He has gotten too drink at days (parties, pubs) that he made decisions while he was drunk or simply cause he could do so.

    Now, what I do not understand which does not make sense is,why not hire a European Manager that is capable of working with technical players, brining youth players up the ranks and can work with the financial structure (Yes, these managers do exist and have done amazing jobs around the globe EUROPEAN).

    This will save costs of him digging out money for future transfers and see the club making constant top 7 into Europa League, more money, more advertisement for his empire and also fans get to witness nice attacking football and the noise will be back at St James Park.

    He must of thought of this many times before, I am sure of it as it works out much much better (financially in the long term) and the amount of mistakes that Pardew does wont cost him the club reputation and image of being a bad owner.

    This will all be clear very soon trust me, but I hope he has realised with the potential of this club, if he hires the appropriate people to take care of the footballl stuff and he just carries on what he does best, no one will have a problem with the Owner and back to happy days when he was downing pints in the stadium.

  • 89 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Most sensible people cottoned on to Pardew when he used the phrase second season syndrome, which is classic loser speak for I’ve managed to attain 5th in the Premier league, but I doubt I can do it again.

  • 90 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    Shearer couldn’t even motivate his best pals: Given, Duff, Butt, Owen etc to keep us up!!

  • 91 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    @spoof – christ I’d take steve Bruce in a heartbeat! Couldn’t careless if he managed the mackems, hes a northeast lad and a fair few geordies have joined the mackems just to stay living in newcastle (clark, chopra, etc) Not that fussed if some one is local or not but Bruce’s knowledge of what football means to the people in newcastle would already give him an advantage over our last 4 managers

  • 92 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    70TWO

    Koeman in a heartbeat

  • 93 jayphoto // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    lol was kidding about shearer! my point was I can’t fathom any manager doing a worse job than pardew has since december! so many negative records broken. I mean this guy has broken records that even ossie ardiles, Jim Smith, Ruud Gullit and Graeme Souness couldn’t break…. its some achievement! We didn’t even break those records when we were relagated

  • 94 validator // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    All this fanciful talk about new management, what about the elephant in the room namely Ashley and his total lack of respect for the club and the supporters.

  • 95 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Jayphoto

    that makes two of us as I would also jump at the chance of getting him here, getting him here would be easy as he is not frightened to stick two fingers up and leave his current employers if he feels he is going to a bigger club or better job, but under Ashley would he view us as a step up from Hull, it’s hurtful asking that question but with Ashley at the helm it is a very valid question.

  • 96 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    Jay

    We beat Hull 4-1 at hull. Is Bruce really the answer just because he’s a Geordie.

    Ok he’s got to a lottery of a cup final (6 matches) but has had a very chequered history at many clubs with probably as many downs as ups.

    I don’t believe, although I could be wrong, like most English managers has he actually won anything in all that time.

  • 97 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    If we need a fireman to see us through the next chapter of the comedy farce that is NUFC, I would put Bruce in for the very reasons jay photo says above…that connection has been missing a while now and I think most fans would see him as a vast improvement over Pardew if he were to leave, but deep down knowing he ain’t going anywhere soon.

  • 98 yo-yo // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    “That sums it up for me. Newcastle is a job that would perfectly suit someone like Frank de Boer, Dennis Bergkamp or even Frank Rijkaard – in short a big name who could generate huge enthusiasm and interest and would play attacking football with the wingers that Newcastle fans like.”

    “No doubt managers like Frank De Boer, Dennis Bergkamp, Frank Rijkaard or Rémi Garde would love to manage a big club like NUFC.”

    Classic fan overexpectation – none of the above would be reomotely interested in a mid table unambitious club with a manager starved of resources.
    The best is probably:

    Di Matteo (sacked for negative tactics from Chelski but a good win %, but bad losing streak at WBA)
    Moyes (tactically similar to Pardew but with more savvy and used to small budgets, still got a lot to prove)
    Hoddle (unproven as club manager at highest level and same stats as PA for win %. Also has large millstone round neck.)

    Get real – we aer not a very attractive club to come to either as a player or manager with the current policies and business plan.

    Just think on it… Manure’s level of expectation compared with ours. It really shows us up. Even an owner with a brief to the manager of going for Europe every year – CL or 5/6th place finish and good cup runs would be a stellar improvement. The problem is the owner first and foremost

  • 99 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    the best thing that ashley could do at newcastle to make all of us get the manager we all wanting to get is quite simple really. This summer ashley has got to show what he has not shown in the last two summers, what he has got to show this summer is proper ambition. We keep dreaming of getting a decent manager, but until ashley shows proper ambition our dream will remain a dream because ashley has in the last 4 windows shown signs of an owner who wants managers to make players good enough, so he can sell them profit.

    1 His first chance of ambition was when we finished 5th, some might say pardews excuses were just excuses but swan who had laudrup have shown themselves that with europe comes a need to spend money in summer, ashley looked more like the sort of owner who wanted to avoid paying too much money in transfer windows even if he had to avoid european football, his ambition looked more like that of an owner who’s happy enough above relegation.

    2 this season ashley knew we needed the striker to replace ba and were in danger of loosing cabaye, so if a manager sees him appoint JFK as director why would they want to come here and work with geeks like him.

    3 to finish it all of, we were sitting in a good position when the january transfer window opened and some including me were hoping europe, we knew cabaye was likely to be gone, the last thing a manager with ambition wants to see happen is for an owner to sell their star man and not replace him especially after already having a summer transfer window like we had.

    So all the decisions in the last few windows have shown managers the sign of an owner who just wants to avoid his team going down.
    That could all be forgotten about if ashley this summer decided to spend money and lots of it on the sort of players a team aiming for the top 6 needs. Pardew will still be manager, but transfer windows show that he has no say in who comes or goes all he does is ask for what the main positions are of the players he wants, then it’s left those above and the scout. If come November he still has the new team performing like it has since this christmas, then pardew has no excuse and ashley can sack him without fear of paying compensation because what he’s had the last two season is the excuse of poor backing and loss of a key player. When we start searching for the new manager those that we want might start considering newcastle worthy.

    It’s not certain to work but we won’t know unless he tries it. What we should all know is that with ambition like this season and last season they will certainly not want to manage newcastle.

  • 100 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Whoa there Brucey gets to the league cup final it’s a lottery and he’s lucky Laudrup does it and he’s the best thing since sliced bread ffs!!!

  • 101 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    band b last line at 81

    this is the question

  • 102 jordijohnty // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    The manager merry-go-round started yesterday. We will have to move fast to get who we want, rebulid the team etc. before the rest of the teams do the smae. However we will stick with this plumb until early september when we won’t have time to make the drastic changes that are needed

  • 103 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    tads

    getting to a cup final although a great achievement is a lottery in that you could get drawn against anyone over only 6 games rather than a season long 38.

    Maybe because we have chosen to devalue the cups so much like Manu did when they played a tournament in Brazil one year instead of the FA cup it’s rubbed off on me.

    But why is it great for Brice for getting there but not for Laudrup who actually won a cup?

  • 104 sparky55 // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:23 PM

    toonking…can’t believe you think he might all of a sudden change his mind / strategy and all of a sudden have some ambition!

    His tenure with us is coming to an end…if no-one buys us between now and next summer, he’ll buy rangers and make sure Pardew sees us go down…that’s his only ambition with this club….it’s his revenge served cold after we the fans chased him out of town so he couldn’t even watch the club he owned.

    Try and dig out Ashleys statement when he first told us he was selling up…it’s full of hate and that’s why he treats us like he does.

    His ownership is solely about SD brand awareness….and that’s the only reason why he’ll buy Rangers too…so thank god he’s got a distraction and our nightmare will be over within the next 16 months or so.

    This is a cold mother fcucker…there’s no way he’ll do anything to better this club.

  • 105 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    tads

    some faces fit with the fans and some don’t, at Wigan Bruce had them regularly in mid-table, they weren’t renowned for negative nor free flowing football, just a straight forward decent side punching above their weight, I keep saying it, but under Ashley we will not be challenging top 4 and we have at look at suitable managers for our owners ambition, and Brucie is as good as any.

  • 106 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Rotonda
    I didn’t say it’s great for Bruce getting there, but you said it was a fluke where as it’s part of your main argument for Laudrup, in fact getting Hull to the FA final is a Huge achievement compared to Swansea getting to the league cup final due to the complete rebuild Bruce had to do and the fact tams actually compete for the FA cup!
    Yes Laudrup actually won it……against Bradford…….not Arsenal……in the FA cup

  • 107 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    Yo yo

    Fair enough but as has been proved by Martinez, not all good managers are high maintenance.

    Just say pardew had a bump on the head and thought I know I’ll play an attacking Martinez / Brazil style 343 with attacking wing backs. Would this team be that bad?

    Krul

    Colo Willo MYM

    Debuchy Sissoko Tiote Haidara

    Ben Arfa Remy Marveaux

  • 108 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    Spoof
    The Jobs Steve Bruce has done at his clubs (scum excluded!) has been very commendable
    What he’s done with Hull is tbh phenomenal but like you said, he doesn’t fit the image
    Laudrup who has walked out if every job he’s had roughly after one season apparently does

  • 109 fray bentos // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    @Rotonda

    You’re a moron if you think any of the managers are going to come to our club

  • 110 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    tads

    no I didn’t say it’s a fluke. I said, if you read it again, that getting to a cup final is a lottery for the reasons I put.

  • 111 Shot Bru // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    Reckon Ashley is currently in The States sealing the deal to sell the club..

    Asset stripped the club already selling off most of the valuable players…

    Made huge returns from this seasons prize money…

    No players bought in January…

    Bizarrely keeps his mate Pardew as manager till the end of the season despite a shocking record

    Preparing take over the Huns

    Sacks Kinnear half way through the season after a few months in the job

    Employs a secretary to keep things ticking along

    Ashley is good at playing his cards close to his chest when a top deal is on the table….

    It makes perfect sense!!!!!!

  • 112 hitman // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    spot on sparky @104

  • 113 Toon Tang // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    Moyes sacked eh, the roundabout keeps spinning

  • 114 Toon Tang // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    Shot Bru, I hope ya right marra

  • 115 Rotonda heights // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    fray bentos

    thank god I’m not a moron then.

    I know all these rumours and wish lists are 99% pure fantasy. However, a forum is therapeutic in that allows you to air and share your views without claiming it is gospel.

    I often find that people who slam other people’s opinions are usually devoid of any imagination or constructive input and just accept the status quo. That’s their call I guess but a little sad really.

  • 116 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    Rotonda
    And yet despite your reasoning it still makes Laudrup vastly superior by the difference of 90 minutes in the final of a lesser cup

  • 117 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    RH96
    if you are going to come out with things like

    “We beat Hull 4-1 at hull. Is Bruce really the answer just because he’s a Geordie. ”

    well in that case what you must be saying is rodgers is worst than pardew because liverpool couldn’t get a win against us when we were down to 10 men

    “Ok he’s got to a lottery of a cup final (6 matches) but has had a very chequered history at many clubs with probably as many downs as ups.

    I don’t believe, although I could be wrong, like most English managers has he actually won anything in all that time.”

    also if bruce was not a welcome manager why would you be wanting poyet?
    bruce avoided relegation yet poyet can’t even beat 1 team in the lower half and he hasn’t managed to win a cup just get to the final so why any different is it just because bruce is british?

  • 118 Graeme // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    Shot Bru – we couldn’t be that lucky mate – not even if you threw double 6, six times in a row!!

    He’s in it for the FREE Advertising only – the rest of it is bollocks as far as he is concerned. Minimum spend to maintain league status, if its looking pear shaped, then he’ll spend a bit in January to protect the club staus. I wouldn’t be shocked or stunned if there was NO permanant signing made in the summer, other than Cabaye’s replacement.
    The owner is a joke.

  • 119 Marty-Toon // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    Shot bru
    That would be lovely but you’re just guessing.
    Maybe he just wanted away from the circus that is the Toon and it’s crazy band of followers.
    If he isn’t selling it’s gonna cost a fair bit of resources to get the team strengthened with a lot of suspects leaving.
    Can’t see him keeping it under tabs when it was so highlighted before and still didn’t get sold at a third of the price.

  • 120 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    sparky55
    actually i’m not expecting him to do that in the summer, all i’m saying really is if people want these great managers then we need ashley to show ambition (which i’m not expecting) because if he doesn’t then those who are already experienced and quality managers will not want to come here and be embarressed. those who are still young and up coming possibly decent ones don’t want to take one of the hard teams in england. If arsenal with wenger can’t any longer challenge for titles then newcastle can’t achieve top 6 with no money spent.

  • 121 Marty-Toon // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    At the moment the Toon boss job is a really difficult one.
    One decent striker on loan.
    Some good players in the team being played out of position but the work ethic of many is pathetic.
    you don’t know from one window I the next which players you’ll be allowed to keep as it’s out of your hands.
    Who’d want that rubbish?

  • 122 jimiley // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Moyes is a manager who sets up slow and defensive teams with no flair. I wonder who might take him on next?????? A manager of the old era with big lumps up front and Fellaini type players. He never wins nowt. I can think of a club with such a mentality.

  • 123 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Recent phone conversation intercept:
    Ashley: “David, we want you to join our exciting team of professionals at Newcastle United. We have plans for an extremely mediocre future that we want you to be part of. I need a man who can make excuses, mislead the supporters and smile while he’s doing it.
    Moyes: Well thank you Mike. I’m overwhelmed by this offer. I’m still a bit off my game after getting the sack but I can promise the kind of average performances you really need to keep you in the Prem. I don’t work for cheap mind. I’ll want a nice wage packet, somewhere around 1,000 quid a week and I do chew a lot of spearmint gum.
    Ashley: That sounds just fine David. Can you pay your own way down to London and we’ll have a chat then? Don’t take any phone calls from Kevin Keegan before you come. He’s a bitter old beggar and doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
    Moyes: Right then Mike. I’ll dust me bike off and be there as soon as I can.

  • 124 Shot Bru // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    Lads i know it’s just a bit of guessing work and hope…

    But check it out…

    A thin squad with one or 2 decent players…effectively a clean slate to work with for new owners, who employ a quality manager who only has to concentrate on buying players….gel them together during the pre season…

    Job done…Champions league the following season….

    The mind of an eternally optimistic Toon fan…a bit like the 52000 punters who turn up to SJP every week…

  • 125 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    Possibly Moyes and Pardew as co-managers? With oversight by Joe? What a trio to take us forward into more mediocrity. Colour me relieved. Harrumph!

  • 126 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    toonking

    it’s amazing how people view managers as being good or bad as you have pointed out, amazing achiement if it’s a manager who they like, or a lottery if it’s some one who they dislike, Souness won a trophy at almost every club that he managed, is he a good manager, whereas Brendan Rodgers was taking Reading down to league one before being turfed out at Christmas and is still to win a trophy as a manager, but personally I would say that Rodgers is a good manager but Souness isn’t, it’s a funny old game !

  • 127 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 4:57 PM

    I see Cisse has a broken kneecap now. Most clubs want a striker with a broken kneecap according to Alan so he’ll be in big demand then. Beautiful.

  • 128 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    It is a funny old game Spoofy mate. Especially the way we play it. :shock:

  • 129 Spoof // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Geordie

    it’s even funnier the way we talk about it ?

  • 130 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:02 PM

    I can see some tremendous distress in wor club’s future. Signal rockets, emergency flares, red flags. That sort of thing. Oh and get the old air raid klaxon out while you’re at it Mike.

  • 131 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    I think we treat Mike and friends as seriously as they deserve Spoofy mate. Not that I would make fun of them or anything. It’s the high road all the way for me. Harrumph!

  • 132 hibbit // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    i was told the same story this morning by a guy in our london office that ash was in the us to complete a deal to sell the club to a baseball;us football club owner i thought he was taking mick

  • 133 Shot Bru // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    It was me that told you that wor hibbit :-)

  • 134 Munster Mag // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Oh well, if Cisse is crocked at least we wont have to buy another of those pesky strikers in the summer :)

  • 135 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    The lads in the Lonon office of Manly Men Inc. have a bet on that Moyes choked on his toast when Mike phoned him and then died laughing. Horrible fate for the poor man after being sacked. :(

  • 136 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Wor hibbit I’m the Blog Hobbit. Watch how you spell that name mind! Harrumph.

  • 137 hibbit // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    is that you cecil i thought you were a gunner what you doing on here by the way your a mile out with that quote 10k

  • 138 cyprus // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    Looking at this list (not too updated), some interesting names there. e.g. is Zola available? Hoddle could be good. The Laudrup brothers? etc.

    I’m getting desperate I know but Shearer (to the poster above) is definitely a downgrade and that’s hard to do. Sounness would be even worse, JFK, Dalglish. But that’s it. We need change now.

    http://www.thesackrace.com/job-centre

  • 139 toonking // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    spoof
    what i think causes all this is a lot of people take stats too serious in their analysis especially negative stats. Also their seems to be a common theme regarding the nationality, the English players at Newcastle seem to not be allowed as much time to prove weather or not they should start for us, dummett for instance is already considered not good enough, yet HBA and marvo can be as inconsistent as they want and will still be considered worthy.

    the best way i analyze Newcastle is by thinking of the state England themselves are in. they both are getting weaker and weaker squads, they both have expectations that go overboard and they both think it’s just a case of sacking a manager that will make all the difference. so like for like both newcastle and england have won nothing for decades.

  • 140 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Shocking lack of respect shown on here for wor beloved owner NoNuts. It really peeves me. I’m beside myself with frustration. We will move forward to mediocrity with NONUTS! Huzzah!

  • 141 GeordieTwo // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Have to go for a bit lads. Can’t wait to hear the news about Moyes coming to work with wor Alan when I get back.

  • 142 cyprus // Apr 22, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Toonking,
    Sorry to jump in. Do we have a weaker squad than in the past? Isn’t this crop better than your Smiths, Butts, Geremis and Brambles? Do you hope this manager can take us further? Should he not take the blame for the quality of the football? Are Newcastle fans expecting too much when all they really want is competitive football and giving it a right go with the big guys a la Everton, Southampton, even Swansea?




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