Three Top 22 Year-Old Englishmen For Newcastle This Summer


If the news reports are to be believed then Newcastle would like to bring in a number of English players this summer, and based on our performances this year, Newcastle will need to bring in quite a number of very good players in the summer, otherwise we could be fighting against relegation for the second time in three seasons.

carl jenkinson

Carl Jenkinson – on Newcastle’s wanted list

One player we have been linked with is Carl Jenkinson, who was on the bench for Arsenal last night, but didn’t get a game.

The 22 year-old has represented the full England side once, and he is a good attacking winger, who has some pace down the wing.

But if Carl comes in we assume it will be because French International Mathieu Debuchy would be moving out,  since Carl and Mathieu are both specialist right backs.

Carl joined Arsenal from Charlton in the summer of 2011, and he’s played 55 times for Arsenal and five times for the England U21 side – and he looks a very decent right back and probably valued at around £4M.

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Tom Ince – Blackpool winger on loan at Crustal Palace

Tom Ince is now 22, and he has been linked with Newcastle for a couple of years now, and he becomes a free agent in the summer, but because he is a home-grown player some compensation will have to be paid  to Blackpool, and it could be as much as £5M.

There’s likely to be a scramble for his services in the summer, and he has good experience, having started his career at Liverpool and moved to Blackpool in the summer of 2011, and he played 113 times for the Tangerines with 33 goals.

And while on loan at Palace since January, Tom, who is the son of Paul Ince, has played five times with one goal, and he played 13 times for the England U21 side with 3 goals.

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Steven Caulker – Cardiff City center-back

Steven Caulker will be in the Cardiff side for the game on Saturday at St. James’ Park, and if Cardiff are relegated he is almost certain to want to leave, so he can keep playing Premier League football.

Most pundits seem to have written Cardiff off after they were hammered 4-0 by Sunderland on Sunday, but Newcastle aren’t exactly in their best form this year, and it wouldn’t be too surprising if City got 3 points at St. James’ Park on Saturday, after they beat us 2-1 in the FA Cup 3rd round tie in January.

It would be another calamity for Newcastle but not a great shock – let’s face it. 🙁

The 22 year-old 6’3″ player has played 37 times for Cardiff this season and scored 5 goals, and last season he was also in south Wales on loan at Swansea City, and he played 26 times – so he’s had good experience in the Premier League over the last two seasons, and while at Tottenham he played 29 times with a couple of goals.

Steven has played once for the full England side and 10 times for the England U21 side and he also played 5 times for Great Britain in the London Olympics, but he wouldn’t come cheap, since Cardiff City paid £8M for him last summer.

We think these three young Englishmen would be very decent signings for Newcastle in the summer.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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280 comments so far

  • lesh

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #1

    What’s the point in even thinking that young talent would ever join us?

    They or their reps will be aware of Pardew’s reputation as a coach and go somewhere else where their skills can be honed rather than trained out!

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  • Spoof

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #2

    So it’s back onto the English is best debate, personally I have always said it’s a load of rubbish, however after events this season I am not so sure, putting Pardew to one side ( as many would like to do ) to me it is also obvious that our current players are not playing for the manager which to me is unforgivable, so perhaps it may be best to revert more British players, when the chips are down do the Saylor’s, Barton’s and Nolan’s of this world pack up as most of our lads seem to have done, Tiote aside, only Dummett and Gosling seemed to be making an effort last night.

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  • mag

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #3

    Pardew the cabbage will indoctrinate them into his backward football ideology.

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  • BenbulbenMag

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #4

    Suppose we actually sign a number of people over the summer.

    It would most likely mean a fairly rocky 2014-2015 season for us. The failure to add one or two every window (consistently better than we have) and consistently keeping our best performers has undermined any gains we have made over the last 3 years.

    It’s a tough time to be a Newcastle Supporter 🙁 Does anyone honestly feel aslo that and decent Manager would want to take over Newcastle while Fashley is in charge ?

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  • anthc

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #5

    Haven’t seen much of jenkinson, ince is overrated imo and not sure about caulker.

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  • beefman13

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #6

    I just do not care about any crap being spouted, watching our vastly massively overpaid horror of a team last night, the shadowing the jogging, no urgency no thrust no passion, just players playing as individuals, no communication between them, the back line is way past comical, in fact Collocini if you go near my wife I will rip your head off ha ha, the midfield are powder puff lightweight, the froggies are burnt out and as usual no fight in them same old same old as history will tell us !!! a months bonus ready to pick up aaarrrggghhh!!!!!

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  • mag

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #7

    Ince can’t crack playing for palace and jenkinson can’t crack Arsenal, so they may as well join the cracker Pardews circus.

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  • BenbulbenMag

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #8

    Spoof, unfotunately many of our better French players have one eye on the world cup and possibly on the exit gates (Debuchy) and do not want to pick up an injury at this stage of the season.

    By contrast Gosling is starting to take his finger out as he’s in the shop window and Dummet is a passionate youngster who will run through brick walls for NUFC so he was always going to give us a good show.

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  • WWSBRD

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #9

    Jenkinson is alright but nothing amazing certainly no where near Debuchy level.
    Ince sits on the Palace bench
    Caulker would be the only starter in our team from that list imo

    A lot needs sorting over the coming months, Pardew cant continue as manager for me, the squad needs to be completely rebuilt and the coaching staff needs vastly improving. Hell of an ask for our phantom ownership to deal with

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  • tinytoon

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #10

    what annoys me is that pards just doesn’t get it. after the performance last night, he said something along the lines of “our fans expect us to win”. Pards, we do NOT expect you to win, but we DO expect your team to play with some heart. There are teams with much worse players than ours that are not on such a horrendous run. The fact is that they play with heart. Pards can’t motivate the players and it’s time for him to move on. He just doesn’t get it.

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  • BenbulbenMag

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #11

    Would you give Poyet a go ?

    Apparently he has said that win, lose or draw, relegated or staying up he’s leaving Sunderland at the end of the season. Something to do with the club being intrinsically unmanageable!

    Could he be hoodwinked (cause that’s the only way we’ll get a semi decent manager to come in for us at the moment) into working for us ?

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  • Darling27

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #12

    If we’re looking for english players i’d go for Jenkinson Caulker, Sinclair and Ince for starters.

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  • Sazzer

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #13

    5 englishmen out?
    Shola – Shelvey
    Willo – Caulker
    S.Taylor – Jenkinson (Mbiwa gets chance as CB and not RB)
    Gosling – Colback

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  • Sazzer

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    Comment #14

    Oops 4 englishmen.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #15

    Catchy,

    Nothing special about our conditions??

    Which manager who holds himself in any sort of high regard would come here? What is he going to achieve by it? It won’t further his managerial career that’s for sure?

    Watch another manager humiliate himself shouting for players and the want for re-building? Have his best players taking away so we sit mid-table in a mist of mediocrity? Ashley will always employ a yes man to keep his model going and to keep us mid-table. He wants no more.

    It’s more of the same regardless of who is in charge. Policies and constraints will not change. We will still go off the boil once injuries occur. He will never build a squad worthy of top 6-8. He couldn’t careless.

    He has what he wants. Has he not proven and showed his intentions? And by his past appointments?

    You don’t hire a mediocre manager for 8 yrs for nout. Staying in this league is his only intentions to reap the £££ then if he does want to sell it’s in a decent condidtion to do so.

    Any success under this owner is purely down to luck for me.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #16

    @7

    lol!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #17

    Ed you keep using the word ”Top” very freely

    Jenkinson one of the worst defenders I’ve ever seen, hence why Arsenal want rid

    Ince massively overhyped and struggling at Palace

    Caulker struggles with the ball at his feet and has hardly steadied Cardiff’s defense much.

    All this talk about English players just to appease a manager who can’t or won’t work with talented foreign players.

    It really is Harewood and Mullins over Tevez and Mascherano all over again.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #18

    benbulben

    you mean fatty kidnaps him drugs him then takes compromising photos of him as means of blackmail to make him sign a contract in his own blood? 🙂

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #19

    It’s basically humiliating to be a Newcastle fan at present.. Embarrassing. Performance nothing short of disgraceful since January.

    Even a rat can see none of the players respect pardew nor have any faith in his coaching. They are just playing for the sake of it.

    Pardew has to go. Win lose or draw at Cardiff, he has to go.

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  • Rainrix

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #20

    Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft
    Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft GraftGraft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft GraftGraft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft GraftGraft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft GraftGraft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft GraftGraft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft Graft – Alan Pardew

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #21

    Prodigy

    I think you’re wrong. Pardew has made our players look very poor and disinterested.

    A different type of manager in the mould of a Rodgers / Martinez / Laudrup etc could have a totally different effect on the type of players we have.

    At one point we were going on about how this was the best squad we’ve had in ages and maybe if we had a modern, progressive manager then people like Ba who was very critical of Pardew’s tactics and Cabaye may have been more tempted to stay.

    Ashley’s major crime was choosing Pardew who has systematically p—-d off Carr, Carver, the players and the fans.

    The problem is Pardew does not see the problems so how can he fix them ? He needs saving from himself, ie being sectioned for his delusional paranoia.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #22

    sazzer

    when you put it like that it doesn’t look quite so bad

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #23

    rotonda

    ba was critical because he was made to accommodate cisse as for cabs he was always leaving once the asking price was met

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #24

    BENBULBEN

    Yes I would give Poyet a go in a heartbeat.

    With the worst squad in PL history he got them to a final and a quarter final and they were 8 points adrift when he went in there.

    If they stay up, like Pulis at Palace it will be a miracle, but Poyet plays football not percentages like Pulis.

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  • NOVA2967

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #25

    After signing so many B rate French players, why not sign some B rate English players,

    Lets see Ince what happen couldn’t make it into the Palace team?
    Caulker would be oKay seems good in the air but suspected other ways.
    Jenkinson solid but downgrade from Debuchy.

    Doesn’t excite me

    If we are going English we need to sign
    Delph for Cabeye,
    Morrison for Arfa
    Caulker and Jenkinson would work

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  • validator

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #26

    Why not expand the search to include all of Great Britain and even then they’ll sign no one of note.

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  • validator

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #27

    With pardew we have an unskilled labourer trying to coach artisans.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #28

    wolf

    Ba said he didn’t enjoy the hoofball tactics and wanted to play in his words ” beautiful football”as did Colo when his head was still here!

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  • validator

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #29

    The words beautiful football, don’t lend themselves to Colocini one of the worst examples of a central defender in action.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #30

    The Fiver likes to think that the pilot of the plane taking Newcastle United back from London last night landed about halfway through the journey – around, say, the hamlet of Hole Bottom in North Yorkshire – then alighted from his aircraft and wandered aimlessly around a field for several hours, pausing occasionally to sample berries or tread in cowpat. We also like to think that when a bemused Alan Pardew accosted him to ask just what the hell he was playing at, the pilot, showing a cavalier disregard for the risk of headbuttery, replied: “I tried to give my best, I think I did OK.” For that is how Pardew accounted for his team’s unscheduled amble around the Emirates last night, after which Newcastle were left with a sixth straight defeat and a 14th loss from their last 19 league matches.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #31

    Taken from the Guardian’s daily football email.

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  • JamesToon

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #32

    Trying to phone into talksport to voice our views

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #33

    The Fiver continued;
    “We could have copped harm tonight when we were 2-0 down but we came out with our dignity still there,” claimed the manager, whose novel attempt to find a positive in his side’s 3-0 defeat showed that Newcastle are not entirely devoid of creativity.

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  • validator

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #34

    Mr Pardew has succeeded in turning Newcastle United into a national farce instead of a premier league force.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #35

    So the idea is basically to pay over the odds for potentially failing Brits instead of failing cheap foreigners? 😉

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  • Ciaran

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #36

    “If you wanna go tell a lie for me,
    Spin PR to those Geordies,
    Oh why do I own this club?
    HEY! Must be money!”

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #37

    Rotonda,

    Pardews manergerial capabilities and motivational skills are well up for debate. Im no Pardew fan. But the plan to me is set out in stone. Ashley is not thinking about winning trophies and he wont build a squad capable of it either. Is this sacking Pardew to get to Ashley? Frustration? Is it right to change one midtable manager for another? Because that’s as high as he wants to go.

    But do you not think a huge part of this run has something to do with injuries and the way in this club is ran from top to bottom? There is alot of blame to be pointed above Pardew also.

    What must it be like to play for a club as such? This short of confidence, lack of motivation and determination. Watching the squad being weakened and losing our best player in January? Time and time again.

    These players are lacking a leader and incentives to do well no doubt, but how much would really change? There is no direction.

    It must be an easy life playing for NUFC at present.

    No wonder Shola is shouting for a new contract.

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  • validator

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #38

    Ashley doesn’t want to win trophies and pardew doesn’t want to win matches, sounds like a marriage made in heaven.

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  • lesh

    Apr 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #39

    Poyet wants to leave Sunderland?

    Something to do with the club being intrinsically unmanageable?

    He’d feel at home with us then!

    😀

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 29, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #40

    Just a few stats for this season, not to mention the 3 consecutive losses to the unwashed and the biggest home loss for near a century last season! Fcuking disgrace he is! Oh he also got the record for most prem defeats in a single season last season which can be bettered this season if we lose the last 2 games!

    *Lost six Prem games in a row for the first time ever

    *Lost the last six games with an aggregate score of 17-1

    *Suffered the worst run of form since 1987 back in the days of Willie McFaul

    *Failed to score in 39% of home games

    *Failed to score in 42.5% of all games

    *Failed to score in 77% of games without borrowed striker Loic Remy

    *Lost seven of the last 13 games by three goals

    *On the brink of equalling the record amount of Prem defeats in one season (19 last season)

    Pardew’s overall winning record at Newcastle has now slumped to 37.5% – worse than previous sacked Toon bosses like Kenny Dalglish, Glenn Roeder, Bobby Robson and Graeme Souness.

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