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Ashley Meets With Captain – Funds Being Made Available

2:00 pm, Wednesday, April 30th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 408 Comments

The Journal has a very good and interesting report out today by Mark Douglas, that a senior member of the squad, said to be Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini, has been given assurances by Mike Ashley, that significant funds will be made available this summer to rebuild the Newcastle squad.

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Mike Ashley – met with Fabricio Coloccini

The Newcastle squad certainly needs rebuilding with a number of players set to leave Tyneside this summer.

Mike Ashley has been at the Benton Training grounds recently, and is said to have had dinner with Fabricio before he left for his trip to Florida, over here in the states.

And Mike is said to have assured the Argentine International that funds will be made available and the squad will be significantly strengthened in the summer.

Of course Fabricio still has a decision to be made himself, so the dinner was also probably an attempt by Ashley to have Fabricio stay at the club for the remaining two years of his contract, and lead Newcastle forward.

And it seems the owner is trying to calm things down a bit on Tyneside, at least with the players, although Alan Pardew’s future is still up in the air, and it could be decided on the result on Saturday against Cardiff City.

And to make things even more complex the Chronicle has today lodged an out-and-out attack on Alan Pardew, and also some fan organization(s) are asking that fans walk out of St. James Park after 60 minutes on Saturday as a protest.

So one thing we know about that – it’s not going to help the side win the game – that’s for sure.

And what happens if Newcastle are leading  in the game after 60 minutes?

Alan Pardew’s fate will be decided when the season ends – but Newcastle must have a decent chance of beating Cardiff City on Saturday.

And why wouldn’t the fans support the team and try to get what could turn out to be a valuable 3 points against Cardiff City and cement Newcastle’s  place in the top ten for the season?

The very fact a walk out is being planned for Saturday’s game, will only have  a negative impact on the players, and don’t they want Newcastle to win the game on Saturday? :(

Comments welcome.



Tags: Fabricio Coloccini · Financial Fair Play · Financials · Newcastle News · Premier League



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408 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    I will walk out on 60 mins regardless. Best attempt of any to actually make a visible protest at least. Just hope it’s seen as a protest against the regime and not just Pardew.

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  • 3 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    Since Ciaran’s oh so endearing recruitment drive has again ended in complete failure, maybe it’s about time they assigned an effective liaison for this blog instead?
    Rather than help steer me into more active participation I now feel a distinct disregard for those championing MAOC etc. as a result. Well done son.

  • 4 jimmysmith // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    Why would a walkout necessarily harm the sides chances on the day. The players aren’t mugs, and isn’t there more at stake here than three lousy points at this stage of the game. Best thing I’ve heard in ages.

  • 5 Ancientcoptic // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    “Mike Ashley has been at the Benton Training grounds recently, and is said to have had dinner with Fabricio before he left for his trip to Florida, over here in the states.

    And Mike is said to have assured the Argentine International that funds will be made available and the squad will be significantly strengthened in the summer.”

    Fabricio and Mike, sitting down to a plate of pasta, having a good ole convo’ about future transfers etc. You have to laugh.

  • 6 G // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    To be fair, walking out on 60 mins is a really crap idea. Hows about just turning your back on AP when he appears, or chanting ‘Out’ when he shows his smug face?

  • 7 derekm // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Watch it Fabriccio – King Kevin warned everyone that basically they are a bunch of liars.If you want to go back to Argieland the feel free mate.

  • 8 Barras // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    Ed Harrison, who cares about whether the walk-out has an impact on Saturday’s result or not? We have all known for some time that Newcastle United will not be relegated or qualify for Europe. So we are playing for NOTHING. Consequently, shift your focus from the short-term to the long-term.

    If we are to move forward we need a new manager. Ashley could invest in Tevez and Mascherano in the summer and we could still be in a relegation fight next year under Pardew’s management.

    If a win against Cardiff City (relegation candidates), first win in seven games, is enough to cement Pardew’s future in the dug-out of St James’ Park for the next 6 years (or even another single match), then clearly, around 90% of our fans (including me) will want us to lose to Cardiff.

  • 9 Barras // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Additionally, not renewing/buying season tickets and not purchasing any single tickets next season will accelerate Ashley’s departure.

    Until Ashley and Pardew are gone, the only way to support Newcastle United is to not support Newcastle United. It really isn’t that complex.

  • 10 scout // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Wonder if the miami trip was any good?

  • 11 G // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    “Until Ashley and Pardew are gone, the only way to support Newcastle United is to not support Newcastle United. It really isn’t that complex.”

    Cut your nose off to spite your face you mean? Read the comments by Bobby Robson regarding ‘What is a football club’ on the top right of the page, and inwardly digest the information. For the record regarding the protests and boycotts. MA has got the message, he simply doesn’t care.

  • 12 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    BandB

    I’m in no doubt that there’s a weird alliance between Pardew and Ashley and I’m in no doubt that Ashley deserves his fair share of criticism for the issues that surround this club. As I’ve said many times, I believe his main failing is not appointing an experienced football person to run this club, instead appointing inexperienced people (DW, JFK, DL) or trying to run it himself. That led to the biggest crime of alienating the fans.

    But as Martoon said, Ashley isn’t going anywhere until he chooses to. Pardew on the other hand…has a good squad but not only has underperformed this year (in my opinion) but hasn’t even compensated that with derby wins, cup runs or exciting football.

    I see no point in continuously raging against the regime when we would be better focussed to unite to demand smaller changes that are more easily achievable.

  • 13 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    G

    Very well said! And a message I’ve tried to put across multiple times.

    Screw Mike Ashley, screw JFK, screw Pardew and his dull football. None of those have anything to do with why I support NUFC. But fans fighting amongst themselves, refusing to support the team and wanting us to lose…that really would cut deep to the reasons I support this club…

  • 14 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Geremi

    You don’t like MAOC because I asked you, other than click a ‘like’ button what have you done? Is that because you’ve done nothing yet you’re the one on your high-horse.

    Well done son, we need more keyboard activists like you…

  • 15 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    At what point – when it becomes abundantly clear that MA is not concerned with making these small changes these fans think is so achievable – do fans start looking at the man who is really at fault here?

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    As long as we can agree that Pardew is not a symptom and he is accountable? ;)

    …of course Ashley is to blame. He owns Newcastle and he won’t sack Pardew. And surely we should be doing better both in terms of results and performance?

  • 17 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Afternoon one and all,

    I have a question. I see a lot of comments along the lines of “Removing the manager is achievable, whereas removing the owner is near on impossible” – to be clear, not an exact quote – My question is, at what stage do we put more focus on the owner and actually try to do something, even if it does seem we have little chance?

    For instance, let’s say Ashley does fire Pardew and then hires someone like, Kinnear? Maybe a bit too much of an extreme example, say Alan Curbishley?

    For me, that would indicate no change at all really, but would people take that as Ashley trying and be willing to give this new manager say 2 years to make an impact at the club?

  • 18 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Ciaran…Whoa…spooky stuff there.

    Quick, run, before we’re suspected of being the same person!

  • 19 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Jesper

    Pardew is a symptom, just because he is a symptom of the wider issue that is MA does not absolve him of accountability.

  • 20 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Jesper

    Rushed the gun, you were joshing haha

    Ibiza

    We are one and the same aren’t we? Yeah course we are. Yeah I knew it. Come here you! :D

  • 21 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Jesper…Pardew is surely accountable AND a symptom?

  • 22 JAMSHA // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    i want us to loose…n scuns to b relegated aling with man city to win epl

  • 23 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Ciaran,
    You could say the same about getting rid of Ashley, at what point are people going to realise he couldn’t give a monkeys if people protest. You say he doesn’t like criticism which is why he banned the local papers after the match, but he will have known full well that that would bring more and wider criticism, so I just don’t buy that.

    He hasn’t got rid of his zero hour contracts despite the bad press, he hasn’t changed tactics on his company and stock purchases despite criticism, so why do people think he will sell because of a protest.

    He will leave when someone offers him sufficient readies for him to think it worth while. I don’t have a problem with people protesting, and I back the stance, but I seriously doubt it will have any impact on him at all.

  • 24 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Ciaran…Devishly handsome? Check. Super Intelligent? Check.

    Arrogant? Hmm…Maybe we are the same person :)

    Did I read there is a NUST meeting tomorrow? How do these things work, is there a particular agenda?

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    match = march

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Ruddy/Ibiza…anyone who is appointed a manager or something similar in a huge business is not a symptom!

    …a person who is accountable is not a symptom. Maybe it is the words and meaning you confuse?

  • 27 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    If we finish in 11th place and Ashley fails to sack Pardew then the club will clearly have gone back on the statement that top 10 was the MINIMUM target.

    Better to protest against something realistic and tangible rather than simply demand that Ashley leaves our club (which he owns). Since when have protests like these ever had a positive affect on a club?

    Demand something clear. Proper DoF/Chairman/MD to be appointed and Pardew to 100% be removed if we finish 11th and promise a serious review of his position regardless (which IMO should result in him getting fired). Then demand we sign someone to replace Cabaye, Remy and LDJ at a minimum this summer, along with anyone else who might leave.

    Seems so simple to me.

  • 28 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Jesper…For me, it is as simple as Pardews inabilities as a manager are a direct symptom (result) of our owners ambitions for the club.

    If the owner had higher ambitions, we’d have a better manager. Surely we can agree that the word symptom is allowable?

    To be clear, I’m not saying that he therefore is not accountable as manager, he definitely is.

  • 29 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    I would back the walk out,

    right now im not interested in the football, we don’t play football, and I fail to see why these 3 points are so important, we are safe, so the only thing it can help is pardew finish 10th,

    now ask yourself, why should the fans back a man who has let them down ?
    he is there to run the club, but his ego gets in the way of that,
    he does what is best for him, so I think its time the fans do whats best for the club,

    force the idiot out, he can not be in charge next season

  • 30 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    TDSarf…So would you say then that if we finish 11th and if Pardew is not fired then would be the time to protest against Ashley?

    Can I then ask, what if he doesn’t? Or, what if he does, but hires another spectacularly underwhelming schmuck?

    The reason I ask, as I’m sure you’re aware, I have absolutely no faith left in Ashley or his intentions for this club. I believe he has used “reasonable” arguments to lower expectations, however these arguments are not genuine. That is just my opinion though. I’m just wondering whether those who say we need to wait will always be saying that or is there a time where we actually stand up to him, regardless of whether we think we can win?

  • 31 catchy in norway // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Ibiza

    funny , I agree ;)

  • 32 70TWO // Apr 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Following the near miss with relegation last season and Pardews inability to utilise the full squad, would you buy him more players? Or, for reasons with long explanations, would you perhaps give him another season to turn it around? Although Pardew might just achieve top 10, he has not provided consistent performances throughout the season and retained the trust of the supporters. Having given him a chance Ashley should now relieve him of his duties, before the Liverpool game.

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Ibiza…I cannot ser how someone can be labeled a symptom and at the same time be accountable (other if you are talking legal?)

    …surely he is a problem just like Ashley. Just because Ashley can and won’t sack him doesn’t make Pardew less of a problem?

  • 34 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    Stuart on last thread…

    Arsenal were literally in first or second gear all game. It was a bit like seeing 11 Berbatovs (I do like Berbatov, just the running effort I mean) for the pace of their game.

    Like when we were beaten 6-0, Pardew will look as stupid as ever writing in his note pad and looking busy by giving still passing on useless instructions.

  • 35 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    jesper

    imagine (dream) if martinez was appointed as nufc manager and he told ashley he wanted six new players to get the team into europe you could imagine his reaction
    possibly something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0y7EDQ09AA

  • 36 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Just read this on the comment section on a journalist’s story:

    “As a Charlton supporter, I remember booing this man off the field with 20,000 other people not long ago at all. So I was so surprised that he got the job at Newcastle after ruining so many top clubs in his time. To then sign him up on such a long contract too was absolutely crazy. Only Alan Pardew could get a club relegated to League 1 and still managed to get hired by a premier league club afterwards.”

    Says it all really.

    Ashley and Pardew out.

  • 37 G // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    I wish people would stop banging on about this top 10 minimum requirement meaning AP should be sacked. We are currently 9th. I can see us finishing 10th, but no lower realistically.

  • 38 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Catchy…Say what now?!? Call the press. Wait, is this considered Newcastle news? Can the press cover this historic event? :)

    I am getting to the point where I just want something to change. I feel though, this is exactly what Ashley wants. A quick change of manager and the reset button has been hit. I get the feeling by focusing solely on Pardew, we’re setting ourselves for another loop on this roller coaster. Yee Hah!

    Jesper…I don’t see what being a symptom has to do with the severity of accountability?

    Mind, I am a little ditzy right now after having Catchy agree with me.

  • 39 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Ibiza

    There is a NUST meeting tomorrow night to discuss the land-sale issue and how we as fans can oppose it.

    can, and should be held accountable for his mistakes.

    Lilongwe

    I’ve always maintained that doing the right thing doesn’t become wrong simply because you think you may not succeed. I’ve never thought about the probability of succeeding, but protesting against Mike Ashley, as well as trying to look for alternatives to his ownership is the right thing to do, and that is why I do it.

    How would I encourage others to join in? With that self same message – it is the right thing to do.

  • 40 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    are charlton a top club?

  • 41 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Ibizatoon

    I can’t be more clear with this and I’ve said it before (I appreciate you may not have read it) that when the club came out and said MINIMUM target that it simply must be inferred that anything below that is unacceptable. If I’m below the minimum age to smoke/drink/drive and I do then I’m in trouble with the law and if Pardew finishes below the minimum target then he should be sacked.

    So, yes, if we finish 11th and Pardew is not sacked I would be happy to be there demanding that he is and blame Ashley for going back on his word.

    As for the next manager…there will always be a difference in opinion from the fans. Moyes? Bruce? Not excited by either really…but then we have no chance of a manager that many fans would like to see us get.

  • 42 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Wolfs, just another club ruined with record defeats.

    Nice one, Alan.

  • 43 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Surely seasonal targets must be viewed in context – given how we had 34 pts by Boxing Day 10th would not/and should not be considered acceptable, especially given the disastrous run of form we have endured in the 2nd half of the season.

    If Pardew remains as manager following the end of this season there can be no doubt that these 2 are willing accomplices content with mediocrity. Surely the difference of 1 league position does not alter that blatant truth!

  • 44 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Ciaran

    Wrong. Seasonal targets should be looked at as a whole. A club may overperform in the first half of the season and underperform in the second half yet find themselves exactly where they should finish.

    What should be deemed unacceptable is that since January we have barely looked like scoring, let alone winning and if that is attributed to Cabaye leaving then that is a sad indictment of Pardew’s ability to come up with a plan B.

    On that basis, if we replace Cabaye (and Remy and LDJ) and that replacement gets a serious injury early on in the season, then we’ll be relegated…

  • 45 martoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Well Ciaran I’m just back from Stockholm after attending a wife beating conference :)
    I actually think the walk out after 60 mins will be a lot more effective than attending evening meetings and I intend to participate – a pity that the two biggest gobs on this blog will not be able to as they never go toSJP!

  • 46 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    btw i think the front page of the chronicle is a disgrace branding pardew as some sort of public enemy no1 ashleys crimes are far worse yet they wouldnt run a similiar story i wonder why oh yeah hes got powerful lawyers

  • 47 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    TDSarf…Fair enough, as long as there is a point in which you say enough is enough. I do believe that step by step we’re being worked to lower our expectations to the point of not caring. Yes it’s a paranoid view on things, but it has taken me a while to get there and is a result of how I feel we’ve been treated.

    Out of interest, why do you think we can’t attract a more exciting manager than Moyes or Bruce?

  • 48 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    Mike Ashley had dinner with Fabricio Coloccini, That means Colo is not going anywhere.

    Good or Bad? I don’t Know.

  • 49 Belfast // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Oh no Ibiza is still alive.

    Damm

  • 50 thai-mag // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    when Ashley with Colo met about new players I hope it was stressed that 2 new center half’s were top of the list of new players coming in, plus 2 strikers, a couple of proper wingers and a midfield player to replace Cabeye, but everyone knows it is just not going to happen

  • 51 Belfast // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Indian is still alive too.

    Were’s that rope……

  • 52 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Ciaran,
    To encourage others to join in would be easier if you didn’t jump to an argumentative stance when people say that they want Pardew gone, and choose to fight that battle.

    Personally, I think both battles are worthwhile. Yes, if we changed manager we might well get another person who stands by Ashley, and yes, we may still only achieve mid table, but we could quite comfortably get someone in who can improve the quality of the football – not necessarily the results, but the play and style of play.

    While under Ashley most agree that we will bob along, but at least we could be entertained while groups and fans such as yourself campaign for the longer term goal of removing Ashley.

    Both are worthwhile, wars are fought with many battles, yes, the Ashley battle will be the decisive one, but that doesn’t mean others aren’t worthwhile.

  • 53 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Robert

    Their are easier ways

  • 54 Belfast // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    This is all probably smoke and mirrors from Ashley, as per usual.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    TDSarf,
    So if we get turned over by Cardiff and mauled by Lpool to make it possibly the worst managerial run in PL history but still finish ninth or tenth due to results by Palace or Stoke, Pardew should still keep his job because he met his targets ???

  • 56 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Oh dear me, I knew this was coming.

    Belfast, I have some rope for you.

  • 57 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    The front page of the Chronicle is great as it shows the truly abysmal results which P45DUE brings.

    Not like Alan’s Pinocchio based version where they may have been too hyped, too tired, grass too long etc… etc… *please use the excuse generator for more excuses*

  • 58 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    As a fan for me the hardest thing this season has been to avoid paying for any merchandise or even going to any games, I also have avoided SD shops and all things NUFC associated. It would just be easier for me as a fan to sit there and keep paying for the drivel which comes out of our club, from boardroom right down to the pitch. Sometimes in life you need to fight for what you love, at this moment in time my beloved NUFC is dying, on the pitch in the transfer market and most of all in the terraces……it’s harder to make a stand so please refrain from having a go at the few who want change for the masses, the ones who claim or preach Sir Bobby’s words stop and think about what he actually said and the context its meant in, times have changed since them comments and I’m pretty certain he wouldn’t accept what’s happening at our club right now. Football has changed so much but it’s changed more through owners and identity, I want that identity back and will fight for it because I’m not selfish and don’t want to condone this regime by attending games…..all I’m I’d be doing is fuelling my own hunger by attending and then complaining.

    ToonDarnSouth and G – I believe we can make change but this can only happen if we are UNITED, TDS asked the question “when was the last time a boycott made change” simple answer mate LIVERPOOL (Hicks & Gillette) we’ve broken all the wrong records this season and on the back of a shocker last year, time for change start with the manager in the short term but stop going to the games and hit the fat lad where it hurts…..his pocket avoid SD.

  • 59 Belfast // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    It’s too late Ibiza.

    *Goes upstairs to find shotgun*

  • 60 Belfast // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    If we stick with Pardew it won’t matter anyways.

    We’ll be doomed.

  • 61 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    At last the Evening Chronicle has discovered its voice, concerning the hapless Pardew.

  • 62 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Belfast…Fantastic, I would prefer it if I didn’t have to waste good rope on you.

    Where the hell have you been hiding? The nurses have trouble getting your medication levels right?

  • 63 BandB // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Martoon,

    I am not aligned are affiliated to anyone. I have attended no marches. Signed no petitions. Pressed no likes.
    I believe only experience can change what you desire, and that change comes from within. Therefore I do not want to change your mind.
    This is my perspective. Say my butcher is selling me mutton dressed up as lamb. I tell him I think he is cheating me and he pulls a “so what?” face.
    How do I protest?
    Do I stop going to his shop?
    Or do I go along, buy a load of his stuff and then plonk my bags down and stomp off without it?
    Do I then think “well, that showed him!”
    You might argue that example isn’t relevant to a matter-of-life-and-death….like going to football matches.
    But I probably have a different perspective.

  • 64 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    lauren

    the world and his brother already know those stats how about a big splash on the front page asking where the 57 mill ashley made from the carroll ba and cabaye sales have gone? cos it sure as shit aint been re invested in new players

  • 65 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Ibizatoon

    The point for me is in the absolutely clear comment that top 10 was the MINIMUM target. There’s no ambiguity or interpretation there for me. There aren’t even extenuating circumstances that are worthy enough to justify failure. Given last year was a failure too, enough is enough.

    As you know, I didn’t agree with Pardew bashing earlier in the season because once he was told he was going to stay on this season, I think we should get behind the manager and the team, but as the season is virtually ended and the team has been dismal since January, I think it’s fair to say enough is enough.

    As for the next manager…it’s not to say we couldn’t get a manager who plays an exciting style but there’s as much chance they could see us closer to the relegation zone than the top 6 as we’re not going to attract someone with reputation, experience AND style. Forget the big name managers because they want CL football. They will even be unsure of the likes of Spurs as they will find it tough to get CL football in the near future with City, Chelski, Liverpool and Arsenal looking strong, Man Utd will surely buy big this summer and Everton are another outside bet. We’re a distant 8th at best…

  • 66 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    The thing is we over preformed in the first half of the season, we have a below average squad which is showing its true colours. Together with Pardew and his weird decisions spells disaster.

    But there are other issues such as poor fitness levels, poor training which is visible, fans expect too much from our squad.

    And our biggest problem the club is run by a business man who looks at profit first.
    He simply doesn’t understand football and what it means to fans, but instead of getting experience in to help he goes for who he thinks will help, making terrible football decisions.

  • 67 G // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    For what it’s worth Our Toon, I hope you are right, however, I don’t believe you are. And because I work for a living and have standards I don’t need to avoid SD, because I would never have visited one anyway.

  • 68 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Our Toon,
    Liverpool didn’t boycott though. They turned up in numbers and protested vocally before during and after the game. If you use the Liverpool change of ownership as an example, then by staying away you are accepting the situation. Not having a pop, just food for thought.

    I asked Turkish this the other day, and got no response, I have looked, but maybe not hard enough, is there any example where a boycott has resulted in a change of ownership at a sporting club/football club?

  • 69 Belfast // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Nowhere.
    Just had a bit more work on lately.

    Couldn’t be arsed with some of the trolls on here either tbh

  • 70 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Martoon

    I personally support the idea of a walkout/partial boycott. It’s a shame it took the 19th home game to get people to take action but something is better than nothing.

    Lilongwe

    I know I’m known for being quite argumentative, but the stance I was taking that Pardew and Ashley should be seen as a single entity of mediocrity rather than assuming things will get better if we remove Pardew.

    Also, if people are stopped from doing the right thing on an issue so trivial as my personality, one would question whether they want to do the right thing or not.

  • 71 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    JfA

    No. I’ve said he should go anyway in my opinion. But at least the club would say he did meet the minimum target so could keep him on without completely betraying their earlier comments.

  • 72 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    TDSarf,
    So from seven years of lies, deceit and downright nastiness, the one that rankles you most is the little white lie of tenth being minimum target.

  • 73 G // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    “is there any example where a boycott has resulted in a change of ownership at a sporting club/football club?”

    The board-busters movement at Newcastle in the mid 80’s claimed victory, but their participation in the change was fairly minimal, and to be completely honest, embarrassing, hence my reluctance to boycott games. As far as I am aware, the only thing boycotts achieve is hurting the support staff, and tarnishing reputations.

  • 74 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    A full house of angry fans against Cardiff City, would work much more than a boycott of the club.

  • 75 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    I run my own companies, we set targets at the beginning of every year, forecasts etc. These are the absolute minimum that we expect to achieve as a company, targets are reviewed quarterly and adjusted if and when we overachieve, so relate that to us as a club overachieving as you put it for the first half of the season so revise that for the 2nd half of the season. Targets should always be revised not used as an excuse to hide from a shocking showing for 4 months

  • 76 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    Our Toon

    There aren’t enough of us to make a dent if we boycott SD so I can’t see that being any more than an empty gesture sadly.

    Hicks and Gillette were in disagreement with each other I believe and then decided to sell up as one wouldn’t sell to the other. I’m not aware of how any fans had an impact there.

  • 77 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    If MA ever sacked Pards which is highly unlikely, he wouldn’t look for a manager to push us forward by past record or style of football he doesn’t understand that. He’d pick another yes man willing to be a puppet.

    The club’s in a mess tbo.

  • 78 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Ciaran,
    People may not have decided what they view to be the right thing, that is where tact comes in and persuasion, rather than getting peoples hackles up. I’m not having a go, just saying it as I see it. I can see why you want to concentrate on the campaign against Ashley, but it doesn’t make others wrong for wanting to remove Pardew.

    As for things getting better if Pardew was removed, well I doubt many would have us fighting it out for the Champions league, or winning trophies, but in terms of entertainment, and enjoyment then yes, it could get infinitely better then we have had for the majority of Pardew’s tenure.

  • 79 BandB // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    In the end it is not about what affect your actions have.
    It is about what you personally are prepared to tolerate.

  • 80 martoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    BandB @63 – I really like your posts as they are well thought out and reasoned and my barbs were not aimed at you but others who name call and bully anyone who dares to disagree with them.
    I pay for my ST by DD and so to continue your analogy I had to decide whether to buy my meat 6 months in advance i.e you had to cancel DD by end of Feb. Although the downward slope had started then we were still doing OK then so I decided to renew. I am therefore not going to boycott next season and p*ss away £1500 (Mrs Martoon & myself) – the best I can hope for is a new manager and better football.

  • 81 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Lilongwe

    I’m not certain mate, but what I do know is that Liverpool fans united against Hicks etc but we can’t even do that as fans, my point is more about pulling in the same direction

  • 82 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    G,

    The club runs itself financially at the minute, and that is exactly what Ashley wants it to do. Say the revenue decreased due to a mass boycott, where do people think that would be felt?

    My view is that it would result in less expenditure by the club, potentially more player departures, and cheaper replacements. Alternatively, and more damaging for the local community, redundancies for support staff at the club. While Ashley’s advertising of his tat continues to bring in cash globally. Not exactly a win for us fans in my opinion.

  • 83 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Ibiza/Ruddy…maybe you two are one and the same ;) lol

  • 84 mag // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    All ashleys got to do is sack the worst manager in the premier league and swap him for ally Mcoist.

  • 85 BandB // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    Martoon,

    And who has the right to tell you otherwise?
    We are brothers and sisters in this thing we love. It is important that we can have those family spats without lasting hatred.
    We are not the ones to blame.

  • 86 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    JfA

    Most of the so called criticism of ‘lies’ I simply don’t believe. They are based on peoples’ own agendas. Some are just football ‘white lies’ that are told all of the time too and have been blown out of proportion.

    But a minimum target is just that.

  • 87 lochinvar // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge was scathing about the performance of the Bundesliga winners and defending European champions. against Real Madrid.
    “We have witnessed a debacle – we didn’t put enough passion into it,” he said. “We have to keep our nerve and stay rational.”

    My goodness he’s caught Pardewitis – it must be infectious !

  • 88 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Martoon
    as long as your happy with what you see keep buying your season ticket. I appreciate people love to watch us play but I just want value for money.

  • 89 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    our toon

    most fans are short termists a new manager will relieve the symtoms for a while but the disease will still be there

  • 90 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    Our Toon,
    At the minute our problem seems to be that as soon as people disagree on the best way forward we seem to fling insults at each other (on this blog at least) which creates a wider divide between the groups.

    Yeah, Liverpool fans united under one banner and turned out in numbers to protest during games – and march and protest before as well. A number of the more vocal anti regime people on here and the odd other blog I check have stopped going. It doesn’t affect attendance significantly, but it results in an easy ride for owner, MD, DoF and manager through the one period of time when they are in earshot.

  • 91 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    By doing nothing we change nothing. I’m not trying to have a go mate but we need to experiment with what does/doesn’t have an impact on the regime. It’s quite clear they weren’t happy about MAOC protest and the attention it got, that was small scale……now imagine something bigger and the effect that will have!!

  • 92 DokToon // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    BandB @85

    that is possibly the most succinct summary i have ever read here…. well said!

  • 93 mag // Apr 30, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    Ashley wants to replace Pardew with Mcoist!

  • 94 beefman13 // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Mike its to late, we had money in the winter window, you waited, it failed, upheaval will go on throughout the club, this with a squad your manager said was well up to the task, not very likely mate, it is not good enough by far, there really does need to be a sustained protest about the owner his manager and his staff, all guilty of taking the very soul out of our great club, I cannot bare to hear anything that comes out of the club at this moment in time.

    This is from a person who supported the regime at SJP,
    how can it be rectified???? yea he could sell up, we all know we are and will be a massive earner for MA, he put his money down to make the decisions, but 50,000 cant all be wrong, he has raped the club, he is abusing the club with second rate staff and players, sell up Mike and buy Rangers, im foaming with the contempt that has been shown, you have dug a hole for yourself, you seem to thrive on adversity, you are killing us up here slowly, you are like a lethal injection and we seem like we are on death row with you. just get out and do your worst somewhere else.

  • 95 Laurent Robert 32 // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Wolfs, having a front three for a lot of the season from Cisse, Remy, Ben Arfa, Gouffran then in addition De Jong (Shola shouldn’t even be in a list), should be enough for a competent manager to prevent those awful results and actually do positive things without looking clueless in the final third.

    We do need signings, but he makes a mess of the ones we’ve got so why should he be given more? He shouldn’t. Pardew out.

  • 96 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Our Toon

    It’s all well and good saying that our targets should be revised, but I don’t believe that should affect the minimum target for the whole season. When we were looking like outsiders for top 6, I think it’s completely fair to internally state that we would be targeting the top 8 given our good start and try to get into the top 6.

    The first 19 games cannot always be used as a yardstick for the next 19 games though.

    I still think Pardew should go (for reasons stated above).

  • 97 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    martoon

    Boo hoo. Dry up.

    Lilongwe

    I’m not saying that people are wrong for wanting Pardew gone, I too want to see the back of him, but I am fairly certain what type of manager will come in after him, and it will most likely come in the very same mould. If I was certain MA would replace AP with a tactically astute ambitious young manager then I would be calling for APs head, but I don’t think MA cares.

    AP and MA are in this project hand-in-hand. Mediocrity is the order of the day. Get rid of the top dog, and the house of cards comes tumbling down. It is not my job to persuade people. I am not a spokesperson for any organisation. I sympathise, help out and occasionally listen to what these people have to say. If others are put off from joining/helping because they don’t like me then they can take a running jump for all I care if they are going to be that fickle. Just saying it as I see it.

  • 98 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Our Toon

    1 – Demand Pardew is sacked if he fails to meet target
    2 – Demand Pardew’s position is given a thorough review even if he does
    3 – Demand an experienced DoF/Chairman/MD is brought in to run the club on a daily basis
    4 – Demand better engagement between club and fans to maintain the traditions and spirit of NUFC
    5 – Demand sufficient investment this summer to replace Cabaye, Remy, LDJ and any other first team players that will leave

    All achievable and sensible. Mike Ashley out? Not until he bloody well wants to…

  • 99 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    Ibiza…this was what you wrote earlier to me:

    “Jesper…For me, it is as simple as Pardews inabilities as a manager are a direct symptom (result) of our owners ambitions for the club.”

    Even though this has been a problem for Pardew in all the jobs he has had regardless of Ashley.

    So it is not fair to say Pardew is a symptom is it? There can be more than one problem mate ;)

  • 100 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    lilongwe

    the only way to get rid off ashley is too hit him where it hurts the most – in the pocket but that will never happen as we have a loyal fan base something he along with a long history of parasitical owners have recognised as a cash cow
    only when there is danger of his investment being affected will he take action i e relagation and magically wheels are turned and new players appear its very cynical

  • 101 Ibizatoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Jesper…I haven’t tried to say Pardew isn’t a problem or that Ashley is the only problem.

    I think you have misunderstood my point that you quoted, I’m not saying Ashley has caused Pardew to have his inabilities, what I am saying is the reason we have such a manager is because of Ashley and his lack of vision, ambition, care, whatever you want to call it.

    I suppose more will become clear as and when or if Ashley does hire another manager. If he gets in another yes man not quite up to the job, would it be time to accept that what we get is a direct result of what the owner is asking for?

    For the record, I would love nothing more than for Ashley to prove me wrong and hire a decent manager and coaching team…I’m not holding my breath though.

  • 102 Jail for Ashley // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    TDSarf,
    I was lied to personally by Lee Marshall at a fans meeting concerning the 30M spent in January making us the sixth highest spenders that year.

  • 103 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    Wolfshead,
    But Ashley is currently still owed money by the club, so he isn’t making money directly through the club. He is making it through his other business interests that get global advertising via the club. The boycott would lead to bad press, undoubtedly, but it would lead to more airtime/column inches with SD being mentioned. I highly doubt consumers in China, South Africa, mainland Europe would be too bothered by the fact the fans of Newcastle think he is ruining there club, so the advertising continues.

    I may be completely wrong, but in my opinion, as the club is run using its income, then it will just result in the team being worse, or local people losing there jobs. We would have to be relegated for it to impact on his advertising.

  • 104 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    Call me disloyal or Plastic!

    but if Pardew is not sacked I am done with NUFC.

  • 105 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    I hear you ToonDarnSarf and agree with some of what you say mate, MA is a business man though all he sees is ££££’s if that goes away he will sell. A football club is so expensive to run, already we are getting cheap offers for season tickets etc. as with his products its cheap rubbish packaged and sold to the masses, that’s what is happening to us right now as fans!! MA will leave stop turning up, he will leave. Don’t forget a club in the PL is more valuable than a club in the championship, MA knows this!!

  • 106 martoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    I rest my case!

  • 107 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    Lilongwe

    Reputation goes a long way in business, a lot of potential clients will be put off MA products or associated products due to the negative press. This is something which is very prominent in the far east, they want to be associated with untarnished and reputable people as these people are the figureheads for business activities

  • 108 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    jesper

    you talk about symptoms let me ask you this if southampton were where we were in january do you think they would have sold llalna? and even if they got a tempting offer im sure they would have agreed to let him go only in the summer
    fattys eyes lit up when he was offered the 20 mill for cabaye and he agreed to sell even though he knew full well the team would suffer but as we were safe he didnt give a flying fvck

  • 109 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    JfA

    Not a lie, just a different way of putting it. And I remember reading that wording. I think they said something like the club “invested” £30M in new players that January and when you consider transfer fees, agents fees, signing on fees and 1st year wages, that was probably true.

    But the problem is, they answered questions to a football fan like you’re a businessman. But they didn’t actually lie.

  • 110 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    OurToon,
    Ashley already has a bad reputation in the business world. I can’t imagine that running a football club sustainably and making a money by using it as an advertising vehicle will be too harshly viewed by other business folk.

    He is already in China, signing a partnership deal in 2008. His sales continued to increase there despite the far more vociferous protests by Newcastle fans at the time. Funnily enough, his merchandise is aligned with a Chinese company called “Itat” fitting for most of the stuff he sells.

  • 111 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    lilongwe

    im not getting into the debt argument im talking about the 50k attendance every home game and the merchandising its a steady income stream and always has been thats why leeches like ashley buy this club (sjh aside) and the return the fans get is piss poor

  • 112 Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    Wolfshead,
    But Ashley has taken less money than he has put in. He isn’t leeching from the club in a way that attendance and merchandising affect to any significant extent.

    Anyway, I’m off now. Take it easy folks.

  • 113 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    Martoon

    Took you long enough.

  • 114 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    Our Toon

    But the revenue from the NUFC fans is small compared to the revenue from sponsors and TV these days. We have less power than we used to…so you’d need a huge number of fans to have any impact on his revenue to make him notice and sell up. Then, of course, you have the problem of that action putting off a buyer…

    I don’t agree in protesting to target the whole, I think it’s better to focus on details. Like this land sale for example. I’ve seen some posts from NUST and Online Guy on here regarding this and I think it’s great than fans care enough to ensure our future is protected.

  • 115 Ciaran // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    TeDiouS

    Claiming the club invested 30m in Jan 2013 is PR spin intended to deceive the fans. While you are hiding behind the fact that it may well not be an outright lie, it is still an attempt to subvert the truth to con the fans.

    Your pro-regime agenda is so obvious it is ridiculous.

  • 116 mag // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    That must have been some dinner, Coloccini the worst club captain in Newcastle United history and Ashley the worst owner since the Mckeag, Westwood debacle, discussing the demise of the club. I wonder who paid for the meal?

  • 117 yo-yo // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    This symptom analogy is really bugging me :-)

    An illness/disease may be caused by a bacterium or A N Other cause of infection

    One of the symptoms might be coming out in black and white stripes and shouting futilely at a bunch of footballers who just don’t seem to be able to win, score, tie their own bootlaces etc.,

    The symptom is not a responsible action – it just happens.

    If Ashley is totally responsible for the overall aims and objectives for the club, investing and managing finances, and hiring the people who may or may not deliver the aims and objectives then Pardew cannot be a symptom – the analogy is wrong.

    Pardew is a hired bug and has no more overall responsibility than anyone else – unless he is paid to achieve something specific like finishing 10th or higher.
    If he fails then he is not worth employing.

    He might be the germ employed in the germ warfare strategy of Mr Ashley to make the Toon a very sick club indeed, but a germ only has responsibility for infecting.

    If he has been employed to make us very sick and he fails then that is then a problem for the guy who employed him (and only for him in that he is not performing his duties like a good germ should)

    It does not make him complicit in the overriding decisions made by his employer – only for his own actions.

    You could say Pardew is a symptom of a larger disease, or even a disease in his own right, but I just see him as another bacterium in the pool of footballing life.

    And as we all know … it’s a bugs life

  • 118 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    Ed.
    Unbelievable. If the fans walk out on 60 mins:
    You saying the fans are needed to win a match??
    That it will be a negative for the team??
    What do you suggest fella??

    The full house of proud screaming geordies was no help when the mackems rolled into town and destroyed us yet again, nor did 50,000 gates against Everton,Cardiff(cup),Spurs,,Swansea and Man Utd.
    How about the masses of travelling fans who still follow this shower around the country in the thousands,they made not difference at Stoke,Fulham,Arsenal and Southampton recently, but your suggesting if the fans were to walk on 60 mins that somehow they would be responsible if the team went on to lose??? Cant call it one way and not the other mate,if that was the case surely NUFC would be in a Champions league spot with the continued support they have had. Its ok you sitting over their in the States watching games on tv , you have not forked out for a season ticket , not had the expense of travelling to the ground to be let down by the very people you have gone to the expense of going to see. If you dont like what your watching when we are playing on tv ,you can switch it off,go cut the grass anything you like, these poor sods sitting in St James Park have sat through the utter pap Played out infront of them.I for one say Good on them if they walk , jesus im still baffled why they turn up in the first place.

  • 119 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    TDS

    It depends on how you look at protests, sponsors will only be there if 50k are turning up weekly, if the numbers dwindle so will the sponsors. What’s the point in advertising to an empty ground, Live matches won’t be broadcasted as much as the ground is half empty. You quoted Sir Bobby earlier and said that fans are the heart and soul of the club but now you say that fans have little power. Let’s not tiptoe around these issues anymore and actually DO SOMETHING rather than come up with assumptions for why we shouldn’t act!!

  • 120 estechco // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    Taxi for Pardew!

    Assuming any of this story is true, I wonder how concerned AP is about this little soiree?

    Or perhaps Mike just wanted to speak to Colo about his wife and THAT song?

  • 121 BandB // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:54 PM

    yo-yo

    I may be misunderstanding Jesper, but I am going to take a punt anyway.
    I think the gist of his question to Ibiza is this. Does Ibizatoon regard Pardew as a tool or weapon of Ashley? ie: an inert thing capable of being wielded.
    Or does he regard him as his right arm? ie …a thing capable of applying actual force.
    This difference being that in a crime one would not blame the gun that inflicted the injury. Whereas one would blame the finger that pulled the trigger.
    Right, time for fish fingers and waffles.

  • 122 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Wolfs…I haven’t seen your YouTube link is it worth my while?

  • 123 sweendog // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    See frank de Boer is linked to spurs .. What a signing he would be for Newcastle.. Getting a manager like that would save Ashley millions ..if only

  • 124 Barras // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    @joenufc Post 118.

    Very well said sir.

  • 125 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    Our Toon

    The sponsors aren’t there to advertise to the 50k. They’re there to advertise to the hundreds of millions worldwide who watch on TV. You think the SD advertising is so Geordies can go to their local SD?

    Yes, if the ground was half empty week after week then the club would get some seriously negative coverage as would Mike Ashley and sponsors would not want to continue their relationship with the club. But most sponsors are on contracts of several years so you’d have to maintain this protest until the sponsors’ contracts expired and then they wouldn’t want to renew You simply will not hit him in the pocket by now turning up.

    Now, if half the people didn’t renew their season tickets, that might make a bit of a difference, but I daresay that when matchday comes around, you’ll still get 45,000 plus turning up…

    I think that’s just reality. I just don’t get why people don’t protest against specifics rather than just demanding he leave.

  • 126 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:57 PM

    Ibiza…seems I might have misunderstood you there mate ;)

  • 127 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:57 PM

    I think the only way to hurt Ashley is through his wallet. He will pay attention if the gate is down. He knows he absolutely must spend this summer as he’s done nothing for 2 windows now thanks to Joe. He is useless as a human being and a football person. I could care less what his personal worth is as he’s just a selfish monster. The club is under threat from relegation next season so he will spend but unless the supporters actually do something he will laugh and take the money from those who attend and benefit to the maximum from the advertising around the ground. Sorry for the long serious post.

  • 128 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    Our Toon

    And…sorry…yes, the fans are the heart and soul of the club but that doesn’t mean that they have power over who owns the legal rights to the club or owns the ground.

    I didn’t say that fans shouldn’t act, I said that I believe the fans needs to be more focussed on specific things that can be changed rather than aiming for a huge change.

    It’s a bit like that Occupy lot that I really didn’t like. Slagging off bankers for screwing things up (which we all know) and demanding all sorts of ridiculous things rather than just demanding specific changes to make things better.

  • 129 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Wolfs…I am not talking about symptoms – it’s Ruddy or Ibiza you need ;)

    I am talking about accountability!

    Regardless I am not up for questions about what other clubs might do or hypothesis!

  • 130 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM

    Ed’s reasoning just doesn’t stand up here. If attendances of 50K helped the team win wouldn’t we have won several more games this season at home? It’s absolute nonsense. The players know we are all sick of this dross and they also know people want something done about it. The only way to force chance is to reduce Mike’s income. If he then counters by investing even less (if that’s possible) in the club then we will get relegated and he will lose 10’s of millions of pounds. He has been stupid enough to let the club get in this state again despite all the warning signs. He needs to go. Take that idiot Alain Perdue with you as well Mike.

  • 131 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Should read the only way to force change above.

  • 132 Ketsbaia9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    We need to get off to an excellent start in the summer window in order to persuade Remy to sign for us. We must keep Ben Arfa. It’d be silly letting him and Marveaux go for peanuts.

  • 133 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    The trouble we have is, NOBODY other than Ashley himself knows his feeling or thoughts even his future plaans for P45due.
    If the spin coming from the club that Ashley is willing to splash transfer funds this summer (i personally dont believe it) then even the little he does know about football will tell him that it would be irresponsible of him to allow P45due to be keeper of that investment.On the other hand because of his penny pinching ways on past transfer windows and continued strategy of selling what we cant afford as a team to lose ie best players, what decent manager in his right mind would come in thinking he could do better under the restraints and policy he enforces .
    Its been said on here, This window will tell us a great deal about what Ashley has planned in the coming years for us as a Premier League club

  • 134 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Our Toon

    Sorry, I’ve banged this drum many times before and to be honest, I didn’t come back to this blog to debate this, I’ve just been dragged into it so I’ll end this little conversation here if you don’t mind.

    The reason I came back on the blog was just to express my opinion that I think Pardew’s time has come and even if we do scrape the MINIMUM target, I still think that his performances over the season as a whole in terms of style and especially his inability to get results without Cabaye, should lead to us getting a new manager. Preferably asap to give him a chance to assess the squad before the transfer window opens.

  • 135 TurkishFan101 // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    sweendog

    Frank De Boer is linked with us as well, did you not see his comments about us being a sleeping giant yet to be unlocked with all its potential. He was asked what club he would manage and he said it would be either Spurs, Liverpool or Newcastle United.

    Given his work and financial ethic at Ajax, he would be a great manager to work under Mike Ashley.

    Financial strict composure & philosophy — check
    Attacking football and motivation — check
    Bringing upcoming Youths through ranks– check
    Salary cheap — check

    Perfect match.

  • 136 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Do we need new CB:s?

    Neville and Carragher analysing our defenders:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4iaHZz2KTg&gl=GB

  • 137 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Remy and Benny are done with us Kets mate. So probably are a number of other players. We will have a huge changeover whether it benefits the club or not. And if Ashley and Pardew are still with us it will be business as usual next season. No effort in the cups because somebody might get injured and we would have to play extra games if we won, and definitely aiming to stay mid table so we don’t get into the Europa league by mistake. An idiot doesn’t suddenly change into a genius. That goes for both Mike and Alan.

  • 138 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    TDS
    what do you suggest we should all do to make MA at least stand up and listen to the fans. At the moment the club is in free fall, something needs to be done.

  • 139 Stan the man // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    What is the point of a walk-out?
    It would just play into Cardiff’s hands, especially if it is a close game.
    We may not like what Ashley does but a walk-out won’t effect him. You’ve paid your money, see the game through and give the lads our support – even though they perhaps haven’t deserved it of late. Ashley won’t change, we know that.
    What will it do for Pardew? He can’t manage any different with the players he has and let’s see what happens in the transfer market in the summer.
    Supports the lads as only the Toon fans know how.

  • 140 Average_Contents // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Demonstrating against specifics! What? Like we want communication..we want it now! Where’s the money gone! Get real! Fatty has shown us his intentions for NUFC season after season, window after window, stupid decision after stupid decision whilst showing complete and utter contempt for us fans!

    I think it’s pretty clear for all and sundry to see what he wants! MEDIOCRITY on every level!

  • 141 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    TDS

    You missed my point mate, I know the sponsors aren’t there to advertise to the ppl in the ground its to advertise around the globe, with low attendances we ensure Sky etc show less games, negative press and we as fans will have a mouthpiece which would be the media. Sponsors are tied into contracts but they will have get clauses just like BA. If they can’t reach the audience as often as they agreed to then the contract would be rendered useless

    Lack of positive press means less sponsors, there is a reason we went with Wonga, do fans really think there was a big line of sponsors waiting to take on shirt sponsorship? The deal has been dressed up as the biggest in the clubs history, yet look at the actual deal and its a good 4/6m less than the Virgin Money deal and that’s a year!!

  • 142 RUNAWAY777 // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    G number 6 why dont you just tell the truth you dont want to miss any of the match

  • 143 Our Toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    TDS

    No problem mate, it was a good healthy debate, thank you for showing me the alternative side of the coin, I believe as fans we can meet somewhere in the middle and effect change irrelevant of how small a impact we may or may not think it may have….good evening to you sir

  • 144 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    Watched that link sazzer mate. It’s absolutely true. No communication between our back four. Neville says he feels sorry for our manager and coaches but I don’t. Why aren’t they telling the defense to communicate to each other. And pull players off if they’re not listening. A whole season of the same mistakes? It’s bollocks. The team is in tatter again.

  • 145 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    How about less than mediocre gates for less than mediocre play A_C mate? Hit that idiot where it hurts. A more than half empty stadium and the clown would start thinking about selling up again. Especially if he cocks up the summer window and we’re in the relegation zone at the beginning of next season.

  • 146 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    STAN
    it’s not just that game, if people walk out its a matter of getting our message across for the future. What do you suggest?

  • 147 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Lilongwe @ 103 – just how is Ashley owed money by the club?

    He agreed a price with the previous owners, without doing due diligence. He subsequently discovered that the club had a Loan for development work that had to be repaid if the club was sold.

    That he had to stump up more than he expected is down to his own stupidity in the circumstances – absolutely nothing to do with NUFC. That he chooses to lodge that sum as debt in the clubs books does not make it factual.

  • 148 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    Ashley has created yet another diabolical atmosphere around the club with his actions again! How stupid can one man be? He is his own worst enemy. He’s hated in Newcastle. He couldn’t run a football team for 5 year olds. He daren’t show up for home games. Does this have to be pointed out to him? It just beggars belief how much of an idiot Ashley truly is.

  • 149 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    I don’t know why people are so hung up about hitting him in the pocket with regard to boycotts. As has been said we can’t effect that by simply not turning up. What can be done by not turning up/mass exit etc. Is to send a message. If the club loses the fans, it loses potential sponsors, revenue, general interest, potential players, reputation etc. It’s a fine balancing act. This will eventually force Ashley to leave as the overall value and perception of the club will depreciate (could be a couple of relegations along the way as well). Now this would tear up fan hearts and it’s almost impossible to expect it to happen en mass but it is a way which would see Ashley removed over time. Could take years but it is an option.

  • 150 lesh // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    It appears that the discussion about targets and their review misses a key point. Timing and the circumstances prevailing at the time of the mid-term review.

    Both are important. For an employee’s performance and on-going employment to be decided by post mid-term performance, any revised targets surely should be agreed between the reviewer and reviewed (Ashley [or Kinnear even?] and Pardew.

    Now, would it not be unreasonable for Pardew to argue that the sale and non-replacement of Cabaye, plus the resultant demoralising effect on the remaining squad, would impact on performance and thus an upward revision of his performance target would be unreasonable, under the preceding circumstances?

    I certainly would as would the vast majority of those baying for Pardews head on a stick. That being so, Pardew’s no fool and would not have rolled over on such an important issue.

    So, if Pardew achieves the pre-agreed 10th, then he’s probably fireproof – depending on the wording that Pardew’s agreed to when he signed off his agreement to the documented review.

    Just a point to get things into perspective, Ashley’s no fool and neither is Pardew!

    However and like many, I do feel that Cabaye or not, then the team has not performed as one would reasonably have expected and if Pardew has lost the dressing room, then that’s another issue (is he up to the job) to be formally discussed.

    To even think about sacking Pardew without compliance with the legalities is a recipe for further turmoil.

    Ashley will make sure that won’t happen after the Keegan case!

  • 151 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    Stan the man
    Trouble is mate you get shit on enough times feeling change. Turning up every week filling St James Park
    1 Keeps a smile on Ashleys face
    2 Gives P45due False impression the whole place is still for him
    3 Makes it look from the outside everything is fine and fans are nothing but happy to be in St James
    Its not about be disloyal to the team its purely a sign that fans have had enough of the people in charge and their neglect to manage the football side of NUFC,and their neglect to have any ambition or foresight for the future well-being of NUFC. This loyalty argument has worn thin now mate , NOBODY and i do mean NOBODY in the world of football doubts the loyalty and passion of the NUFC supporters,i do fear now though i question is being asked of our stupidity,unfortunately.

  • 152 ilovetoon8788 // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    Excited by Frank de boer’s comments. What a signing he would be. And a massive lift to the whole city.

    With Pardew……it’s just another debacle waiting to him. with excuses after excuses and blaming everything on Arfa.

  • 153 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Stan,

    Support what or whom..

    Ashley,Pardew or disinterested players…

  • 154 Tsunki // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    Well I have already staged my protest and not succumbed to renewing my ST (although lack of cash had a large bearing ha ha) but the arsenal game was the first match I actively avoided and now I am cancelling my sky subscription as I won’t be contributing any more to Ashleys cause. And even though he sells Copa Mundials cheaper than anyone else, I will risk buying my new pair online rather than let him have it. If he isn’t going to invest in our club like he cares, then neither am I. I’m not chucking my wages through SD’s door.

    I laud ANY protest because collectively they shout to Mike that we are sick of his lousy setup and the rubbish he is loading onto a loyal fan base whose low expectations he has explored and exploited.

  • 155 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    This: Fair point.
    theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Stan,

    Support what or whom..

    Ashley,Pardew or disinterested players…

  • 156 Average_Contents // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    G2

    The problem is that people will just continue to turn up as they say they want to support the team! Look what’s happened over the last 4-5 year’s mate

    Hardcore fans who didn’t take any shite or at least had a voice have been replaced by fans who will just turn up, not say a word, clap now and again, look all sullen when we do eventually lose themn go home and say they at least we went

    I’m not advocating a boycott nor slagging fans off who do go but something has to be done and not just by a few hundred or a couple of thousand it needs to be near the entire stadium! Anyone remember last time we wanted him out! There was mass protests outside the ground on matchdays calling for him to go, constant singing within the stadium and after the game!
    And what happened? He put us on,the market because of it so it does work and is definitely worth the effort! Where are these fans now?

    Sorry for the long post lol

  • 157 Tsunki // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Anyway the story is made up because Colo is leaving this summer.

  • 158 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    jesper

    the you tube link was just a bit of light relief not your sort of thing mate ;-)

  • 159 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    The performances have been bollocks for so long now even Pardew doesn’t believe his own statements. He looks ashen faced. He knows that a repeat of the last 15 games at the start of next season means he will be gone anyway. The summer isn’t going to offer miracles. We may get 3 or even 4 new players and lose 3 or 4 players. But if nothing else changes I just can’t see us being anything more than a bottom 6 team. Even the BS about bringing in high quality younger players has been exposed. What high quality young impact players (22-25 say) have we brought in during the last 2 windows?More of the same lies from Ashley.

  • 160 Tsunki // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Match day intro song for Pardew I suggest ‘My weakness is none of your business’ by Embrace. Some good lines in there, I especially like the one ‘ I’ll never learn that I can’t win’. Nice choon too.

  • 161 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    What baffles me is, does AP and MA actually see their own errors? Maybe they think everything is hunky dory, hit targets, the clubs making money forgetting the two most important things the football is shit and the fans are fed up not to mention the players.

  • 162 Douglas // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    Funds being made available! I remember Lord Westwood talking about ground improvements. (and this is true) He had the toilet at the old Gallowgate end painted.

  • 163 TurkishFan101 // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    Tsunki

    Him leaving does not mean he can not have a dinner with Mike Ashley at a private restaurant.

    Coloccini is still here at the north-east.

    It may of been to get his opinion and view on Pardew as he is the club captain, and player will and would of shared there views on Pardew as an individual and coach.

  • 164 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    How has the Ashley plan improved the club? Ashley’s performance should and is being reviewed by the supporters constantly. Does he think we didn’t notice the hiring of Kinnear who subsequently did absolutely nothing to improve the team? And the bollocks about spending within our means? Did we spend within our means in the last 2 windows? We spent nothing and have sunk like a stone again. Dropped points everywhere. Humiliating losses at home. Utter BS from Pardew while Ashley hides in the castle. Thanks for your reply A_C mate. It’s difficult if people who attend don’t care enough to do something proper for the club but surely if they watch enough dross even they will turn away?

  • 165 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:40 PM

    geordie

    send a dozen of your fiercest badger/wolverine hybrids to fatty and mark the crate a gift from the peoples republic of china :-)

  • 166 Tsunki // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    TF101 – I mean the story about spending money etc. It’s rubbish. They probably did have a pie and a pint as a farewell do. :)

  • 167 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    Tsunki
    this is more apt for intro tune for P45due
    http://www.releaselyrics.com/8029/zebrahead-born-to-lose/

    like the lines:
    Always been a quitter, tweet it on twitter,
    My breath stinks cuz I’m a bullshitter

    They say I live my life too fast, they call me an outcast
    Borrowed time and they say that it won’t last
    Misunderstood, there goes the neighbourhood
    Couldn’t win even if I should

    [Chorus]
    Cause I’ve got a bad reputation
    Born to lose in a dying generation
    Whoa-Oh I’m lost in translation
    I can’t win cause I was born to lose
    Born to lose

  • 168 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    Ashley please if anything let Frank De Boer make you richer.

    He is probably the only manager capable of turning us into force to be reckon with even without money or lets say despite Ashley.

  • 169 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    more funds is not the answer if pardew is the manager. Cue more obertans, bents, tomkins etc but still useless negative tactics.

  • 170 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    turkish

    really hope colo gave ash both barrels over pardew

  • 171 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Retonda
    You could be proved right already if the story of the dirty little mackem Colback is true.

  • 172 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    I am preparing for a ferocious fight to the death wolfie mate. I’ll bring the whole arsenal (sorry about using that word) to bear on him. We must expose the NoNuts! Huzzah!

  • 173 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Nice lyrics for Ashley joenufc @167. Oh yeah baby! My breath stinks cause I’m a bullshitter! Sing it loud Mike you tit.

  • 174 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    We hate NoNuts!
    We hate NoNuts!
    Out with NoNuts!

  • 175 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    Harrumph!

  • 176 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    Wolfs…I’ll pass it then ;)

  • 177 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    stan the man

    does anyone give a rats about it playing in to cardiff’s hands. That’s kind of the point. It’s a totally meaningless match but if it got rid of pardew it would mean everything

  • 178 hitman // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    ha why aye.smoke and mirrors.more players will leave than will come in.where in the soup big.

  • 179 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    joenufc

    I can see an army of hard working, no skill, English players arriving under pardew.

  • 180 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    We should start a campaign to get Frank De Boer to Newcastle.

  • 181 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    toonkk

    the football is shit and the fans are fed up not to mention the players.

    52000 don’t care.

  • 182 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    is it just me or have people now given up on ashley, are fans now more desperate for wonder goals and a team who sits mid or lower half of the table just passing forward, so was kevin keegan an idiot for walking out of this club and do fans not mind us being a selling club.

    or is it just this blog?

    martoon Apr 30, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    “It may surprise some of you but there are probably quite a few bloggers on here who agree with TDSarf – myself included. Ashley is going nowhere so the best we can hope for is that Pardew is replaced with a half decent manager and given some funds. You may not agree with TDSarf but the name calling such as TeDiouS is quite frankly childish and pathetic!”

    this window might get lots of money but that money has been all the money we didn’t spend this season.

    when ashley decides not to improve the squad in the summer following our 5th place finish or following on from a relegation battle and when we are looking at a possibility of europe, i am just can’t think of any reason why we don’t see a change of plan now.

    the reason we have to spend money every season is due to people saying
    Of the 3, Dummett is the worst, easily. Haidara is probably a better left back and Santon is by far the better footballer.

    dummet was the only one who didn’t cost money so we can’t be going negative if we expect youth to come through
    also the amount of people who say england players are rubbish.
    well if it’s foreign then it mean spending money AGAIN.

  • 183 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    sazzer

    Could you imagine De Boer…..!!! Would get the club right from top to botom

  • 184 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    Rotonda
    Are you 100% sure about the hard working bit ????
    He roles out Shola on a regular basis that lad hasnt cover a marathon in miles on a pitch since hes been here

  • 185 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Well mates, it’s the time of year I like to reach into the old Hobbit Mail Bag and reads some letters from wor younger fans. Harrumph……Let’s see now. Here’s one from wee Tommy (9 years old) from Wallsend (beautiful place that):
    Deary Mr. Hobbit (nice touch Tommy)
    Why is wor owner such a bad man? Does he not like Geordies? What have we done to that bad man to deserve this treatment? Sometimes I cry myself to sleep at night after we lose at home.
    That’s just terrible. Sigh. Well Tommy, sometimes bad man with lots of money try to control us. They think they are very clever. But we will prevail. Tell your Dad not to take you to any more matches until the bad man is gone Tommy.
    Your pal
    G2
    OBH

  • 186 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Rotonda

    Their lies the problem . Ashley runs the club, no manager would ever be given that amount of power

  • 187 Mister Tuff // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    B&B — your previous post with the butcher/mutton dressed as lamb analogy is very good and true in the cold light of day. However, the influencing factor on match day is probably several pints of ale consumed before the kick off.
    The result is that well known mind changer of beer goggles.
    Even the mutton dressed as lamb might then look and appear “half decent”.

  • 188 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Oh by the way Tommy, I’m sending you a sample of The Official Blog Hobbit wallpaper for 2014. Show it to your mam and dad. Tell them you want enough to cover your entire bedroom. Only 7euros per roll. Beautiful.

  • 189 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    I think this is the time to bring up my famous titmouse analogy Mr. Tuff mate. I was saying just the other day that Cardiff should be quaking in fear because wor players are like cornered wounded titmice. Rrrrrr!

  • 190 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    G2

    Tell Tommy hes wasting his breath.The bad man wont go away until hes good and ready. Tell him the bad man will shaft him again this season. Trust me i know from experience, iwrote to Jim’ll Fix it once and i got shafted too :0

    lol

  • 191 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    I can just imagine how terrified Cardiff will be. Wor players with their claws exposed, teeth snarling…..Rrrrrr!!!

  • 192 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    toon kk

    Sadly I’m not sure if anything can be done as I think Ashley is pig-headed and has no real affection for the club. But I’d suggest focussing on the things I listed in post 98.

  • 193 TurkishFan101 // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Tsunki

    LOL, that could in two ways.

    It’s another false liar and attempt for the gullible “minority” which still buy into the stories about massive reinvestment.

    OR

    Coloccini has been explained to about the plans at the dinner.

    So him leaving or staying will show what way the club is going.

    I will say, if he declares to stay then it will show some work is ongoing behind background and Pardew is indeed getting replaced by a quality manager.

    If not, he will be off back to his hometown and expect only championship quality.

  • 194 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    Aye joenufc you’re probably right mate. But we will win in the long run! Out with Ashley. Down with the evil NoNuts! Huzzah!

  • 195 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    No doubt Mr Ashley is putting that analytical brain too good use regarding his misfiring manager.

  • 196 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Our Toon

    And good evening to you too. Sorry for the delay in responding…I was on the phone.

    There’s definitely a stance to take for all fans and I hope we can find it and find a realistic battle to fight, and most importantly win.

    Always happy with healthy debate and nice when trying to focus the issue doesn’t brand me as an “Ashley lover”!

  • 197 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Toondownsarf
    To DEMAND you need to have an initial firm footing,something strong enough to scare the other party.We need a foothold first m8

  • 198 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    This talk about funds available is downright hurtful.
    He has turned the club into a beggar, no money given unless you show broken hands or legs or eyes or something..

    Besides, NO good player will come here.
    INFACT, WITH PARDEW, this is the wrong time to spend much as we wont get good players.
    But ofcourse if he doesent we will get relegated.

    He is not getting stability, he is gonna waste club money by spending at wrong time. We get good players when were up there, not when we are down and out.

    Look at that mess !!!

  • 199 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    Does anyone know the English folk song “Geordie”? :D

  • 200 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Here’s another letter from one of our more scraggy bunch of young supporters mates. This one is apparently from one Percy Parsnip from Newcastle (sounds a suspicious name that);
    Hey Hobbit
    What do you know about football you pillock? Our manager Alan has been brilliant for us! He should actually be named a saint by Pope Francis for putting up with Ashley! Don’t you realize I (oops I mean he) has to put with bollocks from Mike every single day? Why don’t you come down to the ground and meet me and I’ll stot yer heed for ya!
    Calm down young Percy! We all understand wor Alan has been under a lot of stress lately. But why doesn’t he just resign for the sake of his health? Ask him that when you see him mate (nudge, nudge). As for the heed butt, I’ll be right down there with my honey badger.
    Harrumph!
    G2
    OBH

  • 201 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    joenufc

    What we need is unity and one voice and all of the fans groups who seem be energised to doing something are just behaving like most protest groups and ranting and raving about all sorts of things without any particular focus. There was one group who were supposed to be an umbrella group…Time4Change weren’t they called? But I haven’t heard anything from them for a while and MAOC are still shouting a lot.

    If a group like time4change could have united the passionate and unhappy fans under 10 key things that they wanted to see addressed, then we’d have some power to influence things. But it never happened…

  • 202 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    The English version

    “… As I walked out over London bridge
    one misty morning early
    I overheard a fair pretty maid
    was lamenting for her Geordie

    Ah my Geordie will be hanged in a golden chain
    This is not the chain of many
    he was born of king’s royal breed
    and lost to a virtuous lady”

    The Danish song inspired by Joan Baez’ version called “Langebro”:

    “… Da jeg gik ud over Langebro
    en tidlig mandag morgen
    da så jeg en der stod og græd
    Hvis du tør – så kom med mig

    Jeg gik forbi dæmonernes port
    ud for Kofoeds Skole
    der stod en flok og drak sig ihjel
    Hvis du tør – så kom med mig”

  • 203 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    TDS, I believe most people consider your cosiness toward Mr Ashley a tad off putting to the point of agitation, you need to dismount from your high horse and join the revolution.

  • 204 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    One of the best songs ever written :)

  • 205 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    Artfuldodger

    The comparisons between how he runs Shitty Direct and NUFC are not miles apart mate if you think of it. Ashley spends his money on cheap and nasty Traccys,t shirts,Cabrini hoodies,Lonsdale trainers,Gola footy boots,but rake through most of the shit and u will find the odd Adidas top ,granted one sleeve will be a different lenght to the other but it is an Adidas top.One little bit of quality in a mountain of shite.Same for NUFC cheap transfer, cheap manager but the odd decent player again bought cheap and granted one leg longer than the other but a decent player

  • 206 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    validator

    You clearly don’t read my posts or have a clue about my views then.

    And I’ve never been one to follow the majority just because they shout loudest. What’s right is what’s right and I believe that what I am suggesting is right for the club, not the unfocussed hatred directed at Ashley, Pardew and anyone else involved with the club.

    I’ll stick to my own convictions thanks.

  • 207 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Brilliant song by Joan Baez jesper mate! And she’s old as well! Beautiful.

  • 208 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    TDS, I accept your apology.

  • 209 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Lovely bit there joenufc @205. You’ve got Mike sussed perfectly mate. :)

  • 210 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    If Pardew

  • 211 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    Oops..

    If Pardew stays and we spend, the disaster could have a longer lasting effect beyond 1 yr of relegation to the championship.

  • 212 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    GT…I wasthinking of you mate ;) lol

    You should listen to the version by danish rock band Gasolin called “Langebro” – it’s from the early 70tees. It should be right up your alley as well ;)

    It’s the same melody more or less and it starts of in the same way (same mood) but the rest of the song is different.

  • 213 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    Once the ring is destroyed I’m fairly certain Mike will vanish forever. The journey will be long and difficult and we may be relegated yet again but we will be there at the end to give Mike the two finger salute! Huzzah!

  • 214 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    TDS
    You’ve said we should demand that Pardew is sacked if we finish 11th, as it’s in writing the minimum was 10th,and we need to replace the players that have been sold, despite in the same season target presser was stated 1-2 players per calendar year

    Why have you changed your tune so much?
    In the summer we were out of order for demanding signings and a new manager
    We were also out of order for deeming a 10th place target as a pathetic aim for a season, unrealistic as you put it
    The club put in writing our aim was 6th place upwards EVERY season and challenge for European spots

    So what’s changed

  • 215 ronniegillsbackpage // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Leave after 60 mins! If we are getting beat there won’t be many left to leave !!!

  • 216 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    GeordieTwo
    Everything is spot on expect for Neville feeling sorry for Pardew and the coaches. I understand where he’s coming from in that it’s true in general that individual mistakes can reflect badly on the manager and his coaching. But as Carragher shows these aren’t just technical mistakes but stupid mistakes combined with similar communications as Ashley has with Newcastle fans.

    And any decent manager would have made something about it either through the training ground or transfer market a long time ago because it’s as they point out not news.

  • 217 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    G2 Mr Ashley has been giving the fans of Newcastle United a Churchillian wave since he took control of the club, so payback is long overdue.

  • 218 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    G2
    you like that Business analysis lol
    it would be comical if it were not true though mate

  • 219 Rotonda heights // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    Tads

    Yes he does seem to have had a massive change of heart. Progress I guess !

    Pardew now says we are the best fans in the world after previously claiming we were the problem!

  • 220 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    Ta @212 jesper mate. I’ll have a listen. Excellent bloggery on here today by the way mates. Very wild and wooly! Huzzah!

  • 221 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:44 PM

    I’d rather see the side play in league 2 but with passionate players and an owner trying his best to progress us than stagnate into a run of the mill prem side.

    I’d happily take 10th most of the time providing we had decent football to watch, the odd cup run and somebody trying to do their best for us.

  • 222 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    We hear these stories ‘leaked’ from the club around this time most years….if they didn’t think they needed to buy after scraping through 16th i have my doubts about what they will do when we come 9/10th.

    But hopefully they have seen the error of their ways and repent.

  • 223 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Yep, agreed Sazzer mate @216. If there’s no communication between the back four surely it’s the manager and coaches job to fix it? Not let it continue week after week?

  • 224 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Transfer sage you seem to be wallowing in a sea of dismay.

  • 225 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:47 PM

    validator

    in what way my friend?

    geordie2

    True, but if you have players who don’t talk and an owner who wont replace them, you are stuck. Pardew gets a lot wrong, this may be another thing, but the players must have some responsibility

  • 226 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    G2 @213

    How many more rings have to be destroyed ffs !!!!!
    ;)

  • 227 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    I do like the business analysis joenufc mate! We have truly exposed Mike in all his nonuttery! The emperor has no clothes (and NoNuts!). Huzzah!

  • 228 Mister Tuff // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg uggg
    Well if Mr Tubbs has told permed hair man there is mega dosh available it must be true.

    Why “release” this info through a club insider and now. Why not a couple of weeks ago and announced via Percy Parsnip or a statement from Charnley.
    Got to think it’s yet another amateur PR job to keep the fans sweet in the short term.
    It might be correct though that monies will be spent cannot see the reasoning of making it a cloak and dagger event -they probably can’t help themselves.

  • 229 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    Validator I never wallow in a sea of dismay. I may occasionally wallow in my tub down here at Blog End but I have my many rubber duckies to keep me company mate! Harrumph!

  • 230 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    I read that Gosling thinks the game against cardiff is a cup final.

    The fans wanna walk out at 60min..

    What a massive disengagement…

  • 231 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    TADS

    I haven’t changed my tune at all. Last summer I think some people were out of order because from what I understood, they reviewed Pardew’s position at the end of the season, then came out and said he was staying and yet still fans were demanding he go. I thought we had every right to demand at least 1 striker into the club and were reasonable to expect 2. I was disappointed when we didn’t get a LDJ/Gomis style striker in too.

    I think 10th place MINIMUM target was fair but I think we should have been doing for top 8.

    I don’t believe that the club put in writing that our aim was 6th place upwards every season, unless that was the initial intention when they bought the club. A lot has happened since then so it’s not really relevant.

    So, nothing has changed with me, I said Pardew should be sacked if we didn’t get top 10 and I’m sticking to it. I also said that Pardew’s position should be reviewed if we scraped top 10 and I’m sticking to that too.

  • 232 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    Sage, preferring league division two football instead of premier league football, there’s definitely an inner turmoil at work.

  • 233 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    It’s the one true ring that must be destroyed joenufc mate. The ring of power. And be forewarned, Ashley wears it around his dick for safekeeping. Aaaaarrrrgghhhhh!

  • 234 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:54 PM

    We do have inner turmoil validator mate! And outer turmoil as well! There’s been deliberate provocation! We must attack now! Huzzah!

  • 235 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    God i hope the season ticket sales have taken a real slump .Two definate ways to oust Ashley :
    1 Loss of revenue
    2 relegation (free advertising dont get tv coverage in championship)
    Mind you season ticket loss will only be combated by Ashley lowering the SALE price of match day tickets soon you will be able to give your kids a tenner to go to the match on a saturday he can buy minself a new tracksuit and trainers at SD of course ,ticket for the game and still come home with a mars bar and a fooking new catalogue and a bag for life

  • 236 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    I thought that was P45dues place on the end of his bellhousing?

  • 237 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    artfuldodger 211
    that is a hidden wonder
    the thing that is going to annoy ashley more than anything is if we spend money and see a team start of badly.

    ashley loves money and no way would he like to see a team play rubbish after giving them all the money.

    also once managers see ambition then their will be more wanting to come but right now managers see us as a worthless club for good CV.

    finally when we saying a decent manager would be able to make this team perform well, then he should be able to do the very same with who ever pardew bring in, and their is scout players too.

    the first full season pardew did good.
    the second season we did poor but only made panic buyes

    this season we have did nothing that effects ashleys money, we were 5th back in december so ashley will view that as good use with the money spent last january.
    the bad form has came when pardew had not wasted money from ashley.

  • 238 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    I think once the club said Pardew was to stay as manager this season and set a target of top 10 MINIMUM, then all fans should have got behind him and the team for the whole season. Now we’ve nothing left to fight for and it looks like we’ll either finish 11th or scrape into the top half, I think we need to review his position again. And I think he’s failed.

    It’s not as if we needed to sack him midway in the season to avoid relegation like some clubs did and it’s not as if we should have sacked him early on because it looked like we weren’t going to qualify for the CL like we should expect.

    We set 10th as minimum and I think we were fair to expect top 8 and at least some excitement.

  • 239 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    God i hope the season ticket sales have taken a real slump .Two definate ways to oust Ashley :
    1 Loss of revenue
    2 relegation (free advertising dont get tv coverage in championship)
    Mind you season ticket loss will only be combated by Ashley lowering the SALE price of match day tickets soon you will be able to give your kids a tenner to go to the match on a saturday he can buy minself a new tracksuit and trainers at SD of course ,ticket for the game and still come home with a mars bar and a bloody new catalogue and a bag for life

  • 240 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    godt gaet piger jesper mate! :)

  • 241 Patoon // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Yes Ed i do want 2 c us beat on sat, it’l b another nail in Pardews coffin, the more nails the better, joke of a manager, why is MA meeting Colo and not relying on Pardew talking 2 his captain, i’l not b ther on sat but if i was i’d def b on 4 the walkout on 60mins even if we wer 2 up, which isn’t gonna happen

  • 242 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    You’ve definitely got the right approach there @238 joe mate! Ashley’s left eye is beginning to twitch again reading this.

  • 243 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    validator

    I stand by it….football is obviously better in the prem league. But with these clowns in charge it’s ruining the atmosphere and people are losing interest.

    I just don’t like having somebody there purely as a money maker. The lack of players has never been a deciding issue with Ashley for, it’s the way they try to dampen expectations at every chance to make sure nobody complains.

  • 244 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Ashley isn’t stupid (most billionaires aren’t) however he can’t cut corners this time, and we have seen when he thinks relegation is a possibility he gets sh*t done like Last January when we brought in Sissoko,M’biwa, Gouffran & Haidara .

    Team for next year :

    —————————–Krul——————————-

    –Debuchy——Caulker——–M’biwa——Rodríguez–

    ———–Sissoko————————-Tiote————–

    —Cabella—————Grenier——————-Marin—

    ——————————Ba——————————–

    I wish :) .

  • 245 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    G2 @ 233

    It must be one hell of a small ring then!!

  • 246 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    The comments are becoming more bizarre fans wanting a top ten premier league team relegated. This has already happened under ashleys ownership and he’s still here.

  • 247 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    Big pappa

    That’s all i’m clinging onto. I don’t think ashley cares about us and if he could make as much money in the championship he’s snap your hand off for it.

    I do think he will sign enough to keep us where we are, whether expensive players or not i expect 4 bodies to come in this summer.

  • 248 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    We always seem to be runnin up that hill with Ashley! Will we ever get to the top? Don’t give up mates!

  • 249 Sazzer // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    Rotonda heights
    I hope he comes and wakes us up.

  • 250 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Graeme

    Wish i still had a small ring see post @190

  • 251 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    TDS
    Not relevant? Not in writing?
    It was the bloody mission statement proudly declared by our Managing Director, hardly hearsay is it?
    But no, us having a major major problem with the club realising it may have to spend so doing all they can to backtrack on that mission statement and lower fan expectation was out if order of the fans? Please
    This is no different, just because the target has, once again, has changed
    The fans have every right to call for his head this season, just as they did last summer
    Are you suggesting that they reviewed the season and felt the targets were met?
    How about if they review this season and decide to keep him on, will the fans be out of order if they continue to want rid of Pardew?

  • 252 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    It shrinks to fit the size of the wearer Graeme mate. It’s down to about a quarter inch now!

  • 253 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    For God’s sake save the club from foul disgrace!

  • 254 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    If de Boer comes to NUFC then not only would I be shocked but many of us would have to completely rethink what Ashley’s plans are for the clubs.

    For the popular statements to be true, there’s no chance he’ll come, we’d get a Pulis or a Hughes to make us a stable top 10 club, not threatening the top 6 but not threatened with relegation.

    De Boer would be a real statement of intent. But I can’t see it happening…

  • 255 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    TDS

    You are right with De Boer. Are there rumours other than him saying we are a sleeping giant whilst claiming he wants the spurs job?

    I would love to be wrong on ashley and for him to turn round and say now everything is back on track we have 60mil in the bank to go for it…..i just can’t see it.

  • 256 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    TADS

    I don’t know why I keep having to repeat myself. I want Pardew out. NOW. I think he has failed and I’d like to see another man given the chance to evaluate the squad.

    If Pardew was confirmed as staying, I think there’s nothing wrong to protest to say we’re unhappy with the decision and we want a change but if they don’t listen, we’ve got to get behind the lads from day one of the season. I don’t go to football games to protest, I go to get behind my team and watch some football.

  • 257 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    TS

    Me neither. Sad but true.

    And no…there are no rumours other than him praising Spurs, Liverpool and us as sleeping giants in English football…hardly a revelation…

  • 258 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Ashley oot!!!
    NoNuts oot!!!
    Perdue oot!!!

  • 259 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    De Boer would be a great acquisition as not only would the football and results be much better, he might be able to give our academy some pointers as he obviously knows Ajax and their academy speaks for itself.

    Can’t believe we haven’t produced more local talent in a working class football mad area . Where are the next Shearer’s, Beardsley’s & Gazza’s ? .

  • 260 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    Ashley’s also a fowl disgrace validator. He fondles his budgies mate! The horror! This monster must be defeated.

  • 261 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    I think the best club in world football for Ashley to own would be Porto if he wants to take Sports Direct Global .

    They are in the Champions League every year and make ridiculous amounts of profit on selling players.

  • 262 welshgeordie9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:20 PM

    Hang on a minute shouldn’t Ashley be talking to the manager about funds, have I missed something here

  • 263 welshgeordie9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    I’ve had a really bad day today

  • 264 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Validator

    Different circumstances if we get relegated now,totally different . Ashleys plan is now in place fully functioning and working very well thank you ,for HIM. Total unadulterated domination of advertising in and around the the ground , New tv money an outrageous bonus £60 + handout for being mediocre at best, possibility of one of your cheap buys coming good and sold for big bucks, again seen by all because its the premiership.
    Contrast all that with life in the championship , sky wont be televising our trip to Doncaster, Bournemouth or possibly Rotherham on a tuesday night will they

  • 265 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    TDS
    Your not having to repeat yourself, your having to explain the sudden change of heart after the barrage of constant demand of justification from yourself last summer when we were nearly relegated one season after being told, yes by the club, our aim was to challenge for European spots consistently and break the top 6
    This season has arguably been better than last but because the club altered there target now it’s ok to demand him out?

  • 266 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:22 PM

    Toonking,

    Last season Pardew/Ashley rode on the back of the previous seasons 5th place finish..Good players were tempted..this time it wont happen…our mgmt has been exposed..

    Im not sure on who they can buy this season. Hence whether another manager can make things work with Pardew signings I cant be so sure. Look at the Dicanio mess. Plus we would have lost Marveaux,Benny. Perhaps debuchy too..

  • 267 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    I take it you don’t find Mr Ashley, to be a pheasant plucker, G2?

  • 268 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    What’s happened to you then welshie mate?

  • 269 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    Sage
    No, not even rumours, and tbh he was hardly mentioning us as a powerhouse or even hinting he’d be interested in the job

    He simply said, Spurs are a great challenge, there viewed as sleeping giants just like Liverpool and Newcastle, we’ve been referred to as that by near on every manager pundit and player under the sun!

  • 270 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    Arr arr arr! That was quite humorous validator mate! Yes, word play. I’m a few cards short in that deck I’m afraid.

  • 271 toonluvva // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    Re P45due & Ashley.

    P45due is a busted flush now. Despite what he says I believe he has lost the confidence of his players an no matter what happens in the summer his awful coaching will not move the team forward. I wonder if Colo has said as much to Mr Ashley at their recent little soiree.

    As for Mr Ashley, unlike P45due he can still recover his reputation by appointing a decent manager and then backing him with some new players.

    A new manager will be able to save Mr Ashley from having to spent too much in the summer by identifying the correct position for the players and coming up with a playing strategy that will get the best out of them. Despite our recent horrendous run of form lately I still believe we have the basis of a decent squad.

    Graham Carr and the new manager working together could re-inspire our team and lead us to push on higher next season.

    Of course all of the above is dependent on the next manager not being Mr J F Kinnear!

  • 272 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    tads

    He wouldn’t come here anyway, much better options for him elsewhere.

  • 273 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    You know I believe a lot of you on here don’t listen to Harvest Moon by Neil Young often enough. Get mellow lads and lasses. Let your hair down. Put your hairy feet up. Beautiful.

  • 274 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    The classics are more beneficial for the mind, the Mozart effect.

  • 275 welshgeordie9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    267GeordieTwo

    Women trouble, I’ve now decided I’m going to be a monk

  • 276 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Sage
    We wouldn’t go for him anyway, much cheaper options!

    I’m sure a quick phone call to little Vernon would help him decided what club to choose….

  • 277 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    lol hes no Eminem like but its canny:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNozk8arqo

  • 278 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    Uh oh women trouble’s bad trouble welshie mate. Just realize you can’t win. Admit you’re wrong to your lass (whether you are or not) and beg forgiveness. It has worked for me in the past.

  • 279 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    TADS

    I remember the comment now, it was the goal to grow the club so we were in the top 6 every season and challenging for Europe but it wasn’t our target last season!

    No change of heart at all as I have already said. I said last summer that if Pardew didn;’t get top 10 then he should be sacked. I said if it looked unlikely that we would get top 10 at any point after November, then he should be sacked and I said that scraping into the top 10 would not be an achievement. I also did say that finishing 11th but 4 points off 6th might save him but that isn’t the case is it…

    As usual, people not reading what I’m actually saying and believing the garbage that certain people like to spread in order to have someone to fight with.

    I AM NOT A FAN OF MIKE ASHLEY AND NEVER HAVE BEEN. I AM NOT A FAN OF ALAN PARDEW AND NEVER HAVE BEEN. I AM A FAN OF NUFC AND I WANT WHAT I BELIEVE IS BEST FOR NUFC.

  • 280 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    Does wor season remind anybody else on here of a goat rodeo pardners? I believe we’re in it deep. Real deep.

  • 281 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    fudge

    what do you mean by di canio mess?

  • 282 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Joenufc @ 249.

    Shudders.

  • 283 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    G2
    I believe it might be the baby jesus doing this awful thing to us, a test maybe.
    Maybe if we come through it jesus will have each of us as a sunbeam. clutching at straws but hey you never know

  • 284 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    Spot on @276 joenufc. Listen to that and weep NoNuts!

  • 285 theartfuldodger // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    Poyet had to work with players DiCanio got. That mess still hasnt been cleared.

  • 286 welshgeordie9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    GeordieTwo
    April 30, 2014

    I asked one of the girls in work to put a word in, and then when she come back to me she said the girl that I liked has just started to go out with someone recently, and to day in a meeting there’s was five of us in there and have a guess who came in last yep you got it and I just thought are you kidding me

  • 287 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    Graeme

    Big bloke was Jimmy when he was excited if u know what i mean lol

  • 288 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    Tottenhams pursuit of a new manager is verging on skulduggery.

  • 289 Toonmania // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Rather than walking out either don’t attend or a better idea would be for all the fans on 60 mins to chant for Pardew out 50k passionate Geordie fans all chanting Pardew out would be intimidating for any person and certainly wouldn’t go unnoticed by the manager, owner and chairman.

    But lets not make the team suffer they are suffering enough having to put up with Pardew’s inept tactics as it is.

  • 290 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    No the baby jesus wouldn’t do this to us joe mate. This is the work of somebody down below. Did Ashley sell his soul to get Newcastle or does he have one to sell? Not sure.

  • 291 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    TDS
    Haven’t read a single comment about you, so let’s not flatter that there’s a campaign to “fight” you
    So you accept the club have abandoned the goals then and it’s fine to simply make up a target at the start of each season depending on squad strength?
    What if we do finish 10th by the way

  • 292 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    You’ve got to be patient with the lasses welshie mate. Or use my method. Beg and weep on your knees in front of them until they give in and go out with you. It’s not really manly but women can be difficult. As you can see I’m no expert either. Jimmy Carr has some good things to say about the whole woman thing. Or just have a refreshing beverage.

  • 293 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    Welshgeoerdie never let the object of your affections know of your interest, a great seducer lets her read it in his actions.

  • 294 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    tads and TDS

    For me league position is irrelevant now.

    If i went to work, hit all my targets by 12pm then did sod all the rest of the day i’d expect to be shown the door. That’s what the manager has done.

    Granted losing cabaye is a loss but why hasn’t he tried something different then, just the same garbage with players who can’t play that way. Exactly the same with set pieces, problem is there for all to see but we persist.

  • 295 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Footy time
    Let’s hope this leg is better than the first!!!

    Come on Atletico be great to have a CL final that is also a fiercely contested derby game!

  • 296 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Sage
    Fully agree, but for me he should be gone for football reasons, not simply because he hasn’t met a target on a piece of paper

  • 297 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Welshgeordie

    Sorry to hear that mate.Pointless me saying plenty more fish in the sea, she was out of your league anyway, bet you can get the picture of her new fella scuttling her over your desk,or shes more than likely a slapper or that shes been cocked more times than davey crockets musket. hope that softens the blow mate,im sure it will.I am your Dear Deirdre.

  • 298 cadete // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Well I’m done with this blog! Been a follower for a long long time but ed is the biggest pardew/Ashley fanboy ever! Our recent run of form and he thinks there should be no protest at what’s going on! This type of run happened last year aswell, that mug pardew is a waste of space. Headbutts excuses tactically inept moron should be gone!
    Ed supports him and Ashley at every turn! what are ya gettin paid ed????

  • 299 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    This could be like the Liverpool Chelsea game, only this time it’s Chelsea who have to play and have a go at the game
    Fancy Atletico to pick them off on the counter tonight

  • 300 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Could we possibly hang Ashley in effigy at the last match? Then burn the lot and piss on the ashes? Or is that going too far?

  • 301 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Joe nufc are you a neanderthal?

  • 302 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    GT…Of course we listen to Harvest Moon ;)

    …but I prefer Havest. Been listing to alot of American Stars N’ Bars and Freedom in my youth!

    Lately I have been listening to his latest Psychedelic Pill. Try listening to Walk like a Giant, it fits our situation with Newcastle like a glove :)

  • 303 welshgeordie9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Thanks for the advice lads

    Bloody women doing my head in

  • 304 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    What a goal that would of been!!!!
    How unlucky great start

  • 305 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    “…Me and some of my friends
    We were gonna save the world
    We were trying to make it better
    We were ready to save the world
    But then the weather changed
    And the white got stained
    And it fell apart
    And it breaks my heart

    But think about how close we came
    I wanna walk like a giant on the land”

    Beautiful :)

  • 306 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    TS

    Depends on your job. I worked in sales for years and if you nailed your sales target with a few days to spare and then sat in the pub getting drunk for the rest of the week, then plenty of managers wouldn’t begrudge you. Of course, you would expect your target to get moved up next quarter…so best to at least MAKE it look close…!

    I still think he should be sacked because it’s too close for comfort, the style is poor and he has had no plan B since Cabaye left.

  • 307 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    Validator

    Come on then sense of humour bypass explain?

  • 308 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    TADS

    Those goals are long-term goals. Irrelevant to this season and last. Without stability and progression we’ll never get there.

    You said you’re not asking me to repeat myself. But you’re now asking a question that I have definitely already answered. I can’t be arsed to repeat myself again frankly.

  • 309 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    TDS

    very true..but you need to do more than just ‘be average’ to get away with these things, need something special and for your manager know if he needs something done you can get it done.

    the biggest tactical blunder i see is the corner routine. We have had a journo point out to pardew we failed to score from our one routine we always use, he acknowledged this and said he would change, and other than maybe 5 corners since then we have continued to float it to willo….it’s pathetic. The error was even pointed out and he hasn’t addressed it or seen it as an issue.

  • 310 welshgeordie9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    296joenufc

    Yeah thanks for that

    Ha ha ha

  • 311 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    fudge
    well why should we be wanting to keep HBA and marvo when they are just players pardew got?

    marvo at his previous club did nothing decent at all just a injury prone player so why do we want to keep him.

    HBA has been a very arragent player all his life and france don’t even allow him to play in their international team.

    crystal palace were the favourites to go down at the start of the season but pulis comes in and top 10 is possible.

    if your saying that the manager will have the final say on which players come in then kevin keegan was telling lies as he must have been allowed final say.
    or if managers don’t have final say then we have rubbish scouting system.

    really their is just too much happened with ashley already to expect a great manager to come here before the money is given.

    the manager could get worried fans call him the puppet

    the manager will be facing massive questions from the media

    the manager will know that fans still didn’t like pardew when he was being hung out to dry, so they will view himself like that too if he goes on a bad run.

    really i could go on forever.

    so if you don’t want pardew to be allowed this money then forget about great foreign ones and think realistic.

    bruce
    pulis
    lee clark
    moyse maybe
    simpley a mid table manager with premier league XP.

  • 312 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    TS

    No doubt.

    As I’ve said, I want him gone. He has virtually no redeeming features and plenty of negative ones. I didn’t agree with people calling for his head mid-season when we were doing ok but he should be sacked NOW.

  • 313 lochinvar // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    Regarding advertising at the ground it’s no coincidence that when we play “red” teams such as Man utd and the Scousers the matches are televised and much of the advertising is for betting shops and in Chinese symbols as well. Ashley is no fool , he has global ambitions for Sports Direct and having that brand exposed on TV to the billions of Chinese who are obsessed by betting and Premier League football and the colour red is his main purpose. Anything else is secondary and it shows !

  • 314 ToonDarnSarf // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    Anyway…my eyes have gone laptop shaped…cheerio all.

  • 315 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    Welshgeordie

    Anytime mate ,here to help fella ;)

  • 316 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    @ Sage

    Its things like that when I seriously think Pardew is just plain stupid or being stubborn .

    Its not exactly a hard fix to take a short corner or just flash one in with pace once in a while, but no Its aim for Willo at the back stick week after week after week without scoring .

    Opposition managers must love preparing for us, they don’t even have to practice defending set pieces as they already know exactly what to expect FFS .

  • 317 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM

    TDS
    “Those goals are long-term goals. Irrelevant to this season and last. Without stability and progression we’ll never get there.”

    There extremely relevant , and if you check the statement you keep referring to that states a minimum of 10th, you’ll also see that they have very much changed the long term goals as we’ll

    What have i asked you to repeat? Nothing at all
    If win Saturday 9th place is nailed on, you’ve said 10th was minimum but 8th was good so where does a 9th place finish leave Pardew

  • 318 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Neil Young’s a very interesting greybeard jesper mate. He hasn’t commercialized his music or become a media suck either. He’s been through some very tough times but remains very genuine.

  • 319 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Quality stream if anyone wanna watch online

    http://www.sportlemon.tv/20140430/vv53611679901208.45009736-810010.html

  • 320 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:05 PM

    ANYONE THINKS AMADRID PLAYERS ARE TIRED?

  • 321 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    G2
    u like ya music m8?

  • 322 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    HD

    players don’t get tired when they are winning….they want to keep playing to keep their place and win things.

    When a side is loosing it’s always down to tiredness they say, utter rubbish, jut an excuse for their own lack of form.

  • 323 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    Even if we still had Cabaye I still think we’d be playing rubbish, there’s much deeper problems than just Cabaye being sold. Although it would up skittle some players.

  • 324 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    If you are going to spend as much money as Chelsea have, you should play a little more attacking

  • 325 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    I do joe. I am a proud Geordie greybeard. Still love the oldies. Mark Knopfler is one of my old rock gods, along with the Led Zepp crew, The Who and many others. Some good rock still out there but some of the heart seems to have gone out of it.

  • 326 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    TS

    It was more a dig at Pardew, this 11 (gabi aside) plays most of the games.

    I think Pardew makes players believe they are tired by telling them they are tired.

  • 327 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Just listening to Local Hero Wild Theme again now in fact. Beautiful. Amazing ability with a guitar.

  • 328 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    TS

    the thing about corners is we don’t have that tall striker carroll left when pardew first came.
    also we don’t have that quality winger to create them crosses barton was not allowed to continue.

    cisse is just a wonder goal striker or a bent type one.

    remy is like a rooney striker fast and work well.

    shola is the only tall one.

    the winger we have is a lazy marvo a usain bolt-obatan a very poor crosser-jonas and a complete show off-HBA.

    i’ve been screaming for proper wingers for a whole season.

    when you said that you would take league 2 and good football, that does sound like what we need. it would get rid of this owner as he wouldn’t have the free advertising. all these unpassionate players would leave, those still here would know just how strong you need to be in english leagues compared to them soft diving leagues. hopefully we will see the team look just like the one we had when we were promoted last team.

  • 329 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    For me under Pardew we only played good football when we used :

    ——HBA——–Cisse——–Ba——

    In a counter attacking set up with Cabaye pulling the strings. And in the first half against WBA in the fifth place season when we were 3-0 up is the best 45 minutes I have seen NUFC play under Pardew.

    We won 6 in a row but Pardew caved under pressure from Ba as he wasn’t happy playing out wide and that was the end of that .

  • 330 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    G2

    I love me music ,got into quite a bit of bother with our lass over following me favs around ,u like tom waits good listen some of his stuff a bit way out but some great tunes and what a voice heres one for ya fella:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccVC5MjZEfs&feature=kp

  • 331 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    toonking

    the only ones to score from a set piece are remy and gouff with balls whipped in.

    Might as well just whip it into the 6 yard box, bound to get an own goal before willo does anything.

  • 332 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    @ king

    How can you even begin to defend Pardew on corners FFS .

    Cabaye is (was) one of the best dead ball strikers in the PL and scored plenty free kicks for us. Are you seriously telling me he couldn’t cross a ball but could hit the top corner from 30 yards past a wall ? .

  • 333 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    Chelski take the lead

  • 334 toon kk // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    Unless a club is doing particularly well, like Furgie in his ManU days it’s probably best to keep changing the manager occasionally, helps keep everyone on there toes.

    Chelsea 1-0

  • 335 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Ta joe @330.

  • 336 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Toonking @328

    How can you use the words “Striker” and Shola in the same paragraph??

  • 337 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Seems a lifetime ago we decided Turan wasn’t good enough for the toon

  • 338 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    Come on Atletico can’t stand to see that smug little git Mourinho in the final

  • 339 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    BPC
    but what can pardew do about it?

    he was still thinking alot about the time carroll was sold.

    we had only 2 strikers cisse and ba, they are what get goals. mike decided not to give ba the bigger contract.

    the truth is the state ba was in before is simular to how what is happening with HBA

    ba wants to be CF so pardew give in to ba which unsettled the rest of the team and then ba walked out in january.

    HBA thinks he can show off but the rest of the team don’t want him to play, so pardew learned from the ba saga that it still wouldn’t guarentee him to stay so unlike the chaos with ba, here is choose to avoid trying to unsettle the rest of them. so HBA is doing just what he did at the french teams, he’s causing mayhem this is why the france international team don’t pick him.

    pardew is an idiot with some decisions and especially with subs, but the thing that i do give him sypathy for is the state he has every season with transfers.

  • 340 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    YYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSS
    GET IN!!!!

  • 341 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Madrid equalise 1-1

  • 342 GeordieTwo // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    Game on now 1-1. Chelsea caught napping there. Have to go mates. A Blog Hobbit’s work is never done.

  • 343 stuart no9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    ED i want us to get beat , why not ? what difference is a win going to make,apart from give pardew breathing space untill the next disaster. Not often have i ever disagreed with you however, i think your talking utter rubbish on this one. lets get a spanking – get pardew out, start afresh next season . what is wrong with that ??

  • 344 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    @ King

    What can Pardew do about it ?

    Hmmmmm……..

    How about try another set piece tactic other than aim for Willo, its that simple .

    Its not just strikers that score from set pieces you know, just look at Ramos last night .

  • 345 guvnor // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Chelsea buckled!

  • 346 Toon-Prodigy // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Terrible state of affairs!

    Why not just spend our money we knew we had over the last two windows? When we knew we needed to build! Gambles and cheap loan signings.

    Talk about an unfit regime and lack of ambition.

    And now it’s supposed to be fine because they have decided to spend some money? How about showing some ambition and build each window then we wouldn’t find ourselves in such a mess to begin with? Then we can see if Pardew is fit for purpose also after he has been backed truly and aloud to build an actual football team.

    We would have a much better chance of replacing Pardew with a better manager with a decent squad that has quality in depth. Maybe that would attract a top coach. Having maybe 12 footballers who are ok out of a possible 25 just does not cut it in this league once injuries occur.

    They need to sort this mess out. It’s completely unacceptable.

  • 347 Big Pappa Cissé // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Everyone that doesn’t have a striker that is 6 foot tall should just forfeit corners then toonking eh ? .

  • 348 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    graeme

    it’s because we just don’t buy them

    these are the strikers ashley has sold since return up the league

    carroll best lovenkrands
    leaving us with just 1 other striker shola.

    the ones bought gouffran and cisse

    wingers we have now
    HBA
    obatan
    marvo
    jonas
    sammi

    CAM ZERO

  • 349 stuart no9 // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Ashley says there are funds available! yeah , why now then ? after 7 years , now he decides funds are available. no one in their right mind would believe that , and if it is true- how much? thats the question

  • 350 guvnor // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    How much funding is available though but?

  • 351 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    toonking
    you never know with fatty he played the popularity card bringing back keegan he might do the same with demba mate :-)

  • 352 validator // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    Joe nufc, I was merely questioning your neanderthal attitude to seduction.

  • 353 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    BPC

    read it fully mate
    i’m saying what can he do about ba demanding to be CM when we have got the risk of transfer windows like carroll.

    i get it pardew should have left ba out the team and start shola (our next best striker at the time). ba wanted his own way, newcastle would loose him if he was not given what he wanted.

  • 354 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    toonking

    I always rated ba as the better striker so he should have kept the central role.

    However the team played better with ba on the left and cisse in the middle, should have stuck with it. Ba wasn’t scoring and nobody was bidding…..he gave in too easily. Ashley will sell regardless of what the players say.

  • 355 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    wolf
    better yet he could extend the contract of all our players as we will win games with this great team who’s strikers are cisse shola and gouffran and armstong and wingers are marvo HBA jonas and obatan.

    sack manager and bring in this great one

    team for next year

    martinez

    ________krul
    debuchy_mbiwa_colo_hadaira
    ______tiote__anita_sissoko
    marvo___cisse___HBA

    then this great cover
    _______elliot
    santon_WILLO_SAYLOR_DUMMETT
    OBATAN__bigi__JONAS
    SAMMI__SHOLA__gouffran

    we shall finish in the top6 with great amounts of goals
    basically that how these fans sound.

  • 356 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Something about that Diego Costa, great goal scoring record but when on the ball he just doesn’t look that good of a footballer!

  • 357 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Validator

    Ok fella, but seduction is merely a size of the wallet exercise, or if shes heard your hung like a horse, if neither of those apply welshie had no chance i needed to bring that home to him mate .We all know real seduction takes place over several bicardi breezers, eight if shes a drinker.Any more than eight she has a cock, move on to the next.

  • 358 lochinvar // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Chelsea have 38,000 watching Champions League semi v. Athletico Madrid. Pathetic support for such a small minded club. Toon 52,000 v Cardiff – that’s the way to do it !

  • 359 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Penalty Atletico!!!

  • 360 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    2-1 Atletico!
    Must admit wanted to slap Costa waiting for that penalty though!

  • 361 wolfshead@toon // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    @355

    aah yes sarcasm haha ;-)

  • 362 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    TS
    i think pardew was a bit hopeful of still keeping him at that moment in time because their was just the one big transfer shock of carroll and ashley was showing signs of growth but then after the summer he showed the first sign of concern, not back pardew so i think in anyones mind the best thing to do at that point is try your best to keep players happy.
    this season but he can see himself it’s best to just stick to the team that he has most faith in which includes remy although he knows that remy won’t be here next season he still uses him as a CF as thats our best chance of goals.

    but really i’m just lost and can’t see where to go from here as all the things we wanting or hoping for have got so much from the past that go against them actually working.

    the best does seem to be like you said and just see us back down into league 1 or 2 because when we were down before we saw passion restored in the championship.

  • 363 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Sage
    Gary Neville echoing your sentiments there
    Was asked if Atletico would feel fatigue due to the sheer amount of games the core group have played this season with little rotation

    “No way there on a massive high no way will fatigue play a part”

  • 364 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Ivanovic at Set Pieces reminds me so much of Mike Williamson

  • 365 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    Torres off, strange he’d had a decent game tbf looked dangerous making great runs, just sh1t supply from Chelsea

  • 366 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    tads

    it’s true in anything, whether physical or mental fatigue, if things are going well it’s a lot easier to brush it off and keep going.

  • 367 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    3-1 Arda Turan
    Bye bye Chelsea

  • 368 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    Madrid now 1-3 up, game over me thinks

  • 369 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    The footy’s over mourinho

  • 370 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    Sage
    It’s true, winning breeds confidence and a winning mentality
    We have a team of losers by the looks of it fronted by an excuse making master!

    John Terry fast asleep for the rebound for the 3rd goal

  • 371 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    Will take a miracle of ben arfa sized proportions to dig themselves out of this one eh

  • 372 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:20 PM

    tads

    i posted last night all the trophies in the squad, although all abroad there is a hell of a lot of trophies in this side.

    They aren’t losers, just led by a loser and massively demoralised. They may not be suited to the prem league but they were all big players at the clubs they won trophies at.

  • 373 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:20 PM

    Atletico have a negative budget too. We are sh1t

  • 374 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    game over just shows our premiership big guns aint that good on the global size of things ,top few teams abroad can always show up our supposed top teams.
    It all breaks down to attacking creativity know what i mean P45due not grafting defensive players

  • 375 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    toon pro

    maybe those who are so critical o me will understand you better, thats where my views are really.
    pardew finish 5th than season but since then we’ve seen non of the things done i expect clubs who aim for europe regularly to do.
    transfer windows have been awful.

    their is two ways which i would see myself change the attitude to the importance of transfer windows.
    1. if pardew does get backed and we still do rubbish.

    2 if everton only get 1 CDM this summer and maintain top5 status.
    if they get 6 players like martinez wants then i want everton to be fighting for the title.

  • 376 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    We were once linked with Courtois. I wonder if Forster is just as good.

  • 377 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    toonking

    martinez would do well to hit the same target without lukaku, would be a test of course.

    Even with 6 players they’d be miles off the title unless it was the likes of ronaldo, suarez, bale, tiago silva, etc

  • 378 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    Sage
    They may of won at other clubs, but they don’t look like fighters or winners here
    Pardew is a negative coach no doubt, but Graham Carr went in record to tell us all about the lengths we go to with scouting and one of the biggest factors was the mentality
    Can’t of done it that well if there all happy to put there hands in there pockets kick there heels and look at the floor

  • 379 toonarmydownsouth // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    HD
    Based on this season mate I’d have Forster over Krul!

  • 380 geordie157 // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    Masterclass by A.Madrid, mostly due to a small talented, organised squad that are together. Shows what can be done with limited funds and good management and coaches.

  • 381 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    tads

    It’s hard to say, they had the fight and ability to deal with presssure to win cups in other countries, some playing huge parts.

    I think it’s the clubs attitude and the managers which has dragged them down, but also the layers have a responsibility to be professional, which a lot aren’t.

  • 382 geordie157 // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    And yes forster over krul, forster is more commanding in his box and has better distribution.

  • 383 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    What was eto’o doing? I don’t get why so many professional footballers put their hands up to say “I didn’t foul him ref”. It’s like being in a crowd and you’re the one who puts his hand up and says “it wasn’t me”. If you haven’t fouled anyone, you would simply play on as if nothing’s happened. So if you have fouled someone and want to convince the referee you haven’t, you have to play on as if nothing’s happened.

  • 384 joenufc // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    What a performance ,what a team, could suffer watching them every week . Ath madrid miles ahead of anything in premier league , Chelsea dont get shown up very often but they have tonight.Best team won. What a final to come,two good creative sides with attack minded managers

  • 385 Blackley and Brownlie // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    I couldn’t understand why they got rid of Forster. But that’s Pardew for you. Prefers his own man, Elliott.

  • 386 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    TS
    lukaku is a player i would allow in the team, basically it’s the same team he has got this season that i’m expecting to be able to compete in top6 next season.

    very good footballers is what i mean when i expect signings but it will be hard to argue if he does make signing unless they are rubbish ones. so i do hope that everton have got the same team in september that they have now because if he can not manage to avoid being in the bottom half of the table next season i just don’t understand why pardew is any different.

    wanting managers for entertainment factor only will be given when it’s a local which is really why i believe we were so luck them few years with kevin keegan and robson. the rest of them managers i think were hated just as much as our ashley managers. the north east of england is nothing to those outside the north east which annoys me so much.

    even cappello admitted it when he told bent to leave the north east if he wanted to be picked.

  • 387 Himanshu Dhingra // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    John Terry with his crocodile tears

  • 388 Toon Tang // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    Ahhh, this is where all our transfer funds have ended up, Ashley’s bidding for this pegs virginity…

    http://www.elizabeth-raine.com/

  • 389 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    toonking

    I never get it, if the club is in the top league then it shouldn’t matter where they are in the country, too many people look down on this area and love having 8 london based teams in the league, hardly like it’s a big country or that we are deprived comapred to anywhere outside of london anyway, the whole place is a good area.

  • 390 Average_Contents // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Another article in the national press lambasting our most illustrious owner!

    I think they are finally seeing through his persona of bullshit and how bad he is for this club! About time too!

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/710258132?-11058

  • 391 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    TS
    i complete agree with you their mate.
    every single year both in and out of football the north east is getting ignored more and more, it’s as if they think we are part of scotland a place where all the countryside is.
    i myself love living here and describe us as the most passionate of all that’s what i hate about football now. passion has gone and it was what a lot of my posts were about yesterday.

  • 392 jimiley // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Ed Harrison needs to write articles which mirror the readers views.

    90% of fans now hate Percy and Ashley so it is bollocks to write about getting a vital win against Cardiff. It would only serve to keep Percy in a job.

    The writer of this blog is totally out of kilter with the fans. It may be because he is Ashley’s dad or because he lives in America and never sees live game or speaks face to face with real supporters. In any event, he needs to get real and living in the real world instead of Ashley’s surreal ivory tower.

  • 393 toonking // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    cu all i’m off now

  • 394 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    average contents

    good article, and it sums up what most people think….they just don’t understand why he has the club.

    Surely the marketing is something, but when we have looked at the price to advertise he could have had 20 seasons worth of it at a few clubs for the money he paid for newcastle.

    I think it’s more deep rooted, i think he genuinely enjoy owning us at first but when he cocked up he couldn’t take the stick so just stopped caring at all.

  • 395 hatem786 // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2617236/Hatem-Ben-Arfa-It-hurts-I-help-Newcastle-Im-rotting-reserves-row-Alan-Pardew.html

  • 396 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    toonking

    I know you are off but i’ll reply anyway.

    I agree entirely with that, it’s a great part of the country to live in. I understand the pull of london, it has everything you could want and if you have a lot of money as players do it’s great to live in. Something for everyone.

    But i don’t get how there is anything more in birmingham, manchester, liverpool, etc etc…these places are all similar to newcastle when I have visited. Nice city but nothing at all like the scale/variety of london.

  • 397 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    hatem786

    Very good and passionate words from ben arfa. I give him stick at times for being a bit lazy, but at the same time the players who come in are hardly hard workers, we have a work shy team really.

    Which ultimately comes down to the manager I feel. We sit deep but don’t close, we don’t break with pace, we tip tap it around our defence then hoof it half the time.

  • 398 Average_Contents // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:21 PM

    Benny speaks! Feel sorry for him having to put up with our delusional cretin!

    Sorry about all the links but it’s easier doing it this way lol

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/710265184?-11058

  • 399 Average_Contents // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Poops Hatem beat me to it

  • 400 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    tds at 201 asking about if t4c could unite the fans.just seen photo from march on reade mirror article via news now.would be a surprise if they could unite fans.only one adult apart from steward in shot. average age must be around 14.

  • 401 hitman // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:29 PM

    people need to wake up to ashley and his bollixs.this man is using this great club to advitise sd nothing more.,he is happy with mid table why do you think p45due is still here.the spiel is starting to hit the papers that he is going to spend dont be fooled

  • 402 Transfer Sage // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    1949

    I never went myself as not living in the city but from people i know who went there were a lot more adults and more than some pictures showed.

    I know pictures are good evidence, but depends how many were taken and which got published.

  • 403 TurkishFan101 // Apr 30, 2014 at 10:49 PM

    I mentioned this few days ago, Hatem Ben Arfa loves NUFC too much to leave, its as close to his home as his home back at france with his parents.

    The only way he will leave is if Pardew stays in charge and wants to get rid of every flair player available.

  • 404 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Apr 30, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    ts at 402 i counted in this photo 25 youths to 1 adult and 1 steward .

  • 405 Ancientcoptic // Apr 30, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    hatem786 – good link.

    ‘If the manager says to me he doesn’t believe in me for next season, I want to stay, but if the chairman wants to sell me I have to go. I want to stay here even if the manager doesn’t believe in me because I will show him I can play here.’

    So much for Ben Arfa having a bad attitude… as far as I am concerned, he has been a model professional.

    I cannot recall Ben Arfa ever arguing with other players, bullying refs, talking down to fellow players for a bad pass, going into challenges 2 footed etc etc. I certainly do not ever remember him calling a fellow professional a c*** or headbutting another player.

    I honestly don’t know why the guy hasn’t given up yet. He should have walked long ago, and I would not have blamed him.

  • 406 Graeme // Apr 30, 2014 at 11:27 PM

    Toon Tang @ 388

    I wouldn’t charge her anything at all. A proper Gentleman just wouldn’t lol.

  • 407 JackButler // Apr 30, 2014 at 11:40 PM

    No doubt Pardew will blame HBA, his agent, the t-lady, kit man and anyone else he can as he will take zero responsibility

  • 408 Norpie // May 1, 2014 at 12:14 AM

    What’s with the “senior players” demanding Ben Arfa out of the team? Why did they not raise there voices when their captain Colo basically abandoned them last season. Or when Cabaye blatantly went on a strike. Tiote got himself constantly yellow carded for an entire season and not one said anything about him letting down the team? Obertan didn’t even show up for a match when he was supposed to be on the bench because he was upset. Yet, he was at the Emirates?

    We are supposed to believe it’s because of Arfa not tracking back and because he exchanged harsh words with the manager? Tracking back? It’s like asking Tiote why he isn’t scoring goals. Here’s a hint; it is not his job!




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