Alan Pardew Deftly Backs Off Top Ten Target


Alan Pardew has given his press conference for the Cardiff City game today, and he has said that he wasn’t given any targets but the targets we have are the ones we set ourselves – whatever that means.

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Alan Pardew – press conference today

You either have targets or you don’t have targets, and after all we know that bonuses are paid out – so they must be based on something.

And the news is coming through that Pardew has Ben Arfa training with the Development squad – so there’s definitely a rift, and probably a big rift that seems to have developed between former star player Ben Arfa and the manager – and that’s never good for either party.

And it cannot be doing Ben Arfa’s confidence or mood any good, to be banished to training with the Reserves – and as we said – that’s not good.

This is some of what Alan said in his press conference today:

“I wasn’t set any targets for this season and the only targets are those that we set ourselves.” “Saturday is very important, we have to put in a performance that gets the stadium on our side and gets us a win.”

The good news is there are no new injury problems, and we just have to hope that a mini-miracle happens on Saturday afternoon, and that we can beat the rock bottom team Cardiff City at home, and in front of over 50,000 fans.

Is that asking too much?

That would be very good and would certainly help to lift the morale of the Newcastle fans, although not by too much.

That’s because after the very poor performances this year, a massive rebuilding is required in the summer transfer window, if we are to have a decent side next season.

And the very last thing we want to have is another relegation fight next season.

🙁

Comments welcome.


227 comments so far

  • Himanshu Dhingra

    May 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #1

    Look at Mackems

    1-0 down against City
    1-0 down against Chelsea

    Both away, still found the resilience to fight back and could have won both 2-1

    We totally collapse once we go 1-0 down.

    Where does that come from – Management!

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  • validator

    May 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #2

    The ramblings become more desperate by the day, never mind Alan your suffering is almost over.

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  • Spoof

    May 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #3

    catchy, you say it’s the lack of training getting them into trouble, well I don’t see them train so I can’t comment on the training, but I do see them play and what I see is a lack of ability.

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  • Himanshu Dhingra

    May 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #4

    Yet He gets a HEFTY bonus for Top 10. NO!!!!!!!!!!! Pardew

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  • wolfshead@toon

    May 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #5

    tuffers

    re your previous post if pardew does manage a top ten finish is this what will happen
    http://aweirdthing.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/dastardly2.jpg

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  • toonking

    May 1, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #6

    kevy
    some people just don’t know football well enough.
    here on this page is a team being mentioned who were just like us until they got this owner they called manchester city, before him they were a trophy drought team, now they are a big team with mega stars thanks to money.

    down in london is a team consisting of french players who were once called the invincibles, that team is arsenal. now but they are hoping for an FA cup and 4th place which before was the worst thing. they still have same manager but what they don’t do now is spend money as they used that on the new stadium.

    the liverpool team today has just had itself a new owner, if they don’t make a differance why does rafa walk out and why did the old owner use daglish as manager.

    if french players were so good why does the french team have to use hand of god to get into a world cup. ireland should have beat them in that play off but because of that hand of god henry kept the ball in and scored.

    who are the french player in city chelsea united liverpool everton and spurs because i’m struggling to think of any.

    finally kevy here is this great team that these people think can get top 6 next season

    sack manager and bring in this great one

    team for next year

    martinez

    ________krul
    debuchy_mbiwa_colo_hadaira
    ______tiote__anita_sissoko
    marvo___cisse___HBA

    then this great cover
    _______elliot
    santon_WILLO_SAYLOR_DUMMETT
    OBATAN__bigi__JONAS
    SAMMI__SHOLA__gouffran

    we shall finish in the top6 with great amounts of goals
    basically that how these fans sound.

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  • Rainrix

    May 1, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #7

    Deftly implies skill on pardews part. I think backs off top ten target like a raging alcoholic screaming at traffic is a more appropriate headline.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 1, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #8

    Has everyone who can’t boycott or walk out at least joined NUST.

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  • Bambams

    May 1, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #9

    What a mess.

    P45due is not the right man for the Toon but who are we going to attract to work under Ashley.

    My only hope is Ash actually releases millions and Carr spots some great players who are so good they can’t be Pardewed.

    Eggs all in one basket. …

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  • kevymartins

    May 1, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #10

    I wonder where Thorgan Hazard will end up next season.

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  • Average_Contents

    May 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #11

    So basically he’s not starting then! Be lucky to make the bench! Fcukoff puppet you two faced egotistical cretin!

    United manager Ben Arfa was diplomatic in his pre-match Press conference today when asked about Ben Arfa’s comments, though he again insisted he would pick his team for Saturday’s home game against Cardiff City “on merit”.

    “They are his comments,” said Pardew. “My comments are the same as before – I pick the team on merit.

    “I’ve not picked the team for Cardiff at the moment.

    “The only thing I’d say to our supporters is that the team comes first.

    “This is not about me, Hatem or any individual player.

    “What is important is the team and performance.

    “The team has worked very, very well. It’ll be a strong side that I put out. I expect us to win.”

    Asked if Ben Arfa was still training with the reserves, Pardew added: “He trained with a different group to that I worked with.”

    Pardew said any club discipline for Ben Arfa would stay “in-house”.

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  • toon kk

    May 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #12

    Pardew doesn’t help but people must realise our current squad isn’t good enough.
    Too many over rate them.

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  • shearermania

    May 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #13

    Gary Megson to replace pards…you heard it all hear first….im off to hang myself

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  • mag

    May 1, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #14

    Jail, the blogs Arthur Scargill I wonder if he has his haircut like Arthurs?

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  • lesh

    May 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #15

    By saying that he wasn’t given any targets but ‘the targets we have are the ones we set ourselves’ suggests to me that Ashley didn’t impose a target but that the target was agreed in the course of discussions with him. That sounds reasonable and the way it normally happens.

    However, if he fails to meet the agreed targets, then he’s underperformed and that should be dealt with.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #16

    I have been thinking about joining NUST cause at least they are doing something!

    …but I am still not sure what they are working towards?

    Beats just buying season tickets and going to SJP like it’s a monkey on your back!

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  • Ancientcoptic

    May 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #17

    Alan Pardew : “I wasn’t set any targets for this season and the only targets are those that we set ourselves.”

    Lee Charnley (after being appointed) : “Our immediate priority of course is to finish this season as strongly as possible. Our minimum target for this campaign was a top ten finish”

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  • Phatoon

    May 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #18

    City – Clichy, Nasri,
    Utd – Evra
    Spurs – Lloris, Kaboul, Capoue,
    Liverpool – Sakho, Cissokho
    Chelsea – NONE
    Everton – Distin

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  • toonking

    May 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #19

    toon kk

    when talking about a team far too much of what is mentioned relates to the starting 11 only. even pardew himself has proved when the squad is all fit that he can do fine.

    the thing i do now is a second 11 because its when i see how many of them i don’t rate i know just how poor our team is.

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 1, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #20

    Megson ——please no —please. Percy mark 2.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 1, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #21

    Toonking

    Which part of on paper didn’t you get…!!

    I know de Jong has done nothing but was once rated at 13M (ON PAPER!!)

    I didn’t even list Shola, Campbell or Armstrong in that list of 4 strikers.

    It doesn’t help a striker’s cause when the manager puts 10 men behind the ball for 70 mins and hopes to nick a goal in the last 15-20 mins every match and when your whole philosophy is built on defense and pardew does such a good job of that too doesn’t he!

    Remy is top notch or close to it.

    Cisse was once wanted by city for nearly 20M.

    Gouffran was 3rd top scorer in France the season before last and was starting to score regularly but now finds himself a defensive left mid, a bit like Cisse being made a right winger.

    De Jong as I have to point out again for those with selective reading was once valued at 13M.

    Not the best group, certainly not the worst

    Toonking You are to football knowledge what Alan Carr is to boxing and trying to laud it over others with far more insight is well..just sad and you should know when you’re getting out of your depth and stop. Anyway shouldn’t you be getting along to your BNP meeting?

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  • Spoof

    May 1, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #22

    who gives a toss about targets, there like stats, completely meaningless, it’s what happens that matters not stupid meaningless targets which mean f*** all to anyone !

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  • theartfuldodger

    May 1, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #23

    Im surprised Pardew said such stuff…

    I thought he would wait for season to end and say such stuff if we were outside top 10..

    Kind of interesting…

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  • mag

    May 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #24

    Vote UKIP!

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  • 70TWO

    May 1, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #25

    lesh

    Your right the targets for the season would have been jointly agreed at the beginning of the season, but I can not imagine someone agreeing to loosing their own job as a consequence of failing. However, as this agreement was made following the close shave with relegation last season, there must be a realisation that the agreement was made to provide the opportunity of proving a minimum standard of ability.

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  • 70TWO

    May 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #26

    @ 17 – nailed on

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  • kevymartins

    May 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #27

    @RH I just have to laugh at you. You thnk your so smart when it comes to football but you don’t know sh!t …Player valuations go up and down constantly Andy Carroll, Ronaldo Bale Mata, torres, Diego Costa, Neymar…..Not 1 of them players are worth what their clubs paid for them and Costa I mean Chelsea… LDJ got that value from Twente because he had a good season in a League witch I could probably be the top scorer in….Newcastle is not as stupid and the club that signed him and would not pay anywhere close to that. They would give him there own fair valuation like they did with Tiote.

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  • toon kk

    May 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #28

    Our first team is made up of half a dozen fairly good players, when giving 100% can put a decent performance in, which we seem to be refusing to do at the moment.

    But what everyone must remember non of our squad would get on a bench at a top club, apart from Remy and he’s not ours.

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  • Spoof

    May 1, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #29

    RH, although I disagree with your resonings for De Jong’s failure, after all we always play with 2 attacking fullbacks, so you cannot truthfully say that we are defensive, you can say we are a poor side which results in de Jong getting a poor service, but we are certainly not a defensive team, however I would not be as eager to get rid of the lad as some are, different league, different country, different pace to the game, at times some players need time to adjust to that, we need look no further than Debuchy who has adjusted his game to suit the English game very well, I would give de Jong a pre-season and see what he is like next season, but without an overhaul of the squad then he has no chance, toonking @6 summed it up perfectly.

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  • kevymartins

    May 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #30

    Also as for Gouffran 3rd top goal scorer in a very sh!t league again. Armstrong is not a Striker Campbell is still developing and Man City would offer 20million for Shola if he scored 9 in a row because as the world already knows there crazy with money.

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  • cyprus

    May 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #31

    AP,
    Just go man

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  • mag

    May 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #32

    Key Martin you burk!

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  • kevymartins

    May 1, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #33

    Mag you twat!

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  • 70TWO

    May 1, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #34

    toonking @19

    The lack of quality in depth is an arguement that is used to excuse Pardew from being able to attain consistently good performances. I would counter that arguement with the opinion that Pardew has benefitted from this seeming weakness in the squad, perpetuated by the only mouthpiece at the club. A manager with ability should be able to utilise the whole squad and not marginalise squad players to the detriment of their form.

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  • cyprus

    May 1, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #35

    Hoofball Vs. football: (HBA 2 years ago)

    “But it’s true we don’t share quite the same philosophy. For him, it’s more crosses, a bit of a more direct style, whereas I’m more the kind of player who likes to play short passes. I like to pass and move, a little bit like Swansea when we played against them. “

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  • toonking

    May 1, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #36

    RH
    did you know carroll was once valued himself and actually bought for £35mil and look at where he is now, so you can’t use them as stats to back dejong being good mate.

    shola has scored more goals in the champions league than any other striker at newcastle so if goffran is so good because of being the 3rd highest in the league then why can’t shola be considered the good striker too.

    when a game kicks off if their is always 10 men behind the ball and it’s pardews fault i guess they must be puppets on a string, how else does pardew control their movement on the pitch?
    the only time pardew might demand 10 men behind the ball on the pitch is when the opposition have it and if he was ultra defensive then we should not be getting beat by 3-0 unless their is a poor defense.

    you are nothing but a glory hunter in football.

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  • catchy in norway

    May 1, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #37

    spoof / toonking

    I don’t see lack of ability , I still think we have a much better team than it shows right now,
    we have a manager who instills his football into our players , defend defend defend, they look bad because most are not defensive minded , goofy is shocking in his roll under pardew , just like jonas , you can see week after week him getting worse and worse ,

    I don’t understand why everyone bigs Williamson up, he is beyond poor, the rest of our squad have sank to his and Pardews level,

    shola , I have never liked him, but under every other manager he would chip in 6-10 goals a season, under pardew , 1 every year and a half,

    our defenders used to chip in with goals, Williamson is 6-5 , he can not head a ball , sure he can get his head on the ball , but it’s not the same,

    we don’t look like we train with any goals in mind, they must play bags , or one bounce ( maybe there that bad it’s 2 bounce)
    grrrrr

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  • Spoof

    May 1, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #38

    70TWO @34, come on m8, have a look @6 to see the squad, have a close look, with the best will in the world you just cannot seriously believe that Pardew should be able to intergrate that lot into the first team and maintain the same type of results which we were getting with a fully fit and confident team at the beginning of the season, a miracle worker couldn’t do that, half of them would struggle to get into a Chamionship side so how the hell can we expect Pardew to get us higher than where we are, sorry m8 but you are way off the mark on this one, look at them, they are bloody hopeless ?

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  • toonking

    May 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #39

    @70two 34

    when you think about it pardew has tried his best to do that. the big problem he gets into is our defence is awful and has always been awful. the strikers we have now are rubbish and the only 2 attacking wingers are slow and forward like.

    the thing i certainly dislike about pardew is his subs. we might be short of options up front but well i would just give fans what they want and then say afterwards that he doesn’t want them players being bullied by fans.

    then it will prove to people how serious he is when making these decisions.

    fans want HBA so pardew should just ask players to speak out their own views on HBA

    fans want wingers rather than forwards and CM out wide so he could say in a press i will play obatan as a winger and HBA but don’t complain about me starting obatan and telling debuchy to remain back.

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  • daztoon

    May 1, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #40

    Pardew chooses to ignore and waste the attacking flair we have in the squad.

    So yes we are a defensive unit and yes he should be able to integrate the squad players.

    Pulis has done so with a weaker squad than Pardew

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