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Newcastle Fans Expecting 7th Successive Defeat Today

9:47 am, Saturday, May 3rd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 95 Comments

I guess that when we have lost six games in a row and looked hopeless in most of those games, and only scored two goals in the process, the confidence of Newcastle fans isn’t exactly at its peak – instead – there is a lot of anger, despair  and frustration with the club.

fab coloccini new strip

Fab Coloccini – at least we had the new strips out this week
That was good news wasn’t it?
:(

Cardiff have 5 points from their last six games, as they fight for their Premier League survival, and the majority of Newcastle fans – 55% – expect Newcastle to lose today, and only just over one in five expect us to win the game.

Come to think of it if we lose then  Sunderland fans wouldn’t be too pleased, after they hammered Cardiff 4-0 last Sunday at the Stadium of Light.

And they are at a rejuvenated Manchester United today, and then play at home to West Brom on Wednesday and at home to Swansea on the following Sunday in their final game – and they could still go down – with their home form having been poor this season.

But Sunderland were given a penalty just before half time last Sunday, and a Cardiff player was sent off and that’s what we need – and it would be even better if two Cardiff players are sent off.

We’d have an improved chance of even winning the game – assuming we can score a goal.

Comments welcome.



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95 responses so far ↓

  • 1 niafron // May 3, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Let’s hope it will be an entertaining game…

  • 2 Ron Knee // May 3, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    This is what Pardew said after the Arsenal fiasco:
    “I’m looking at the job as a long-term opportunity for myself. That’s how you have to focus.”
    In other words, to hell with the club. I’m all right, Jack!

  • 3 Oldgit1 // May 3, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    I think the voters for a loss is hoping that by losing Pardew gets the sack. Can’t see any other reason as we are playing the bottom club.

    I include myself in that. Sad it’s come to this.

  • 4 toonincheek // May 3, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    NUFC specialise in doing the opposite of what is expected.

    I predict ba draw.

    Bugger all good to either club.

    Sods Law.

  • 5 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 3, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Niafron…how are you doing mate? Still watching the games in France?

  • 6 toonarmydownsouth // May 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Tequila
    Many many terrier fans were happy to see him go due to his “negative” brand of football
    Brum have a much better squad than propping up the table

    Like i said if he wasn’t a Geordie no one would mention him in the same breathe as Newcastle manager

  • 7 niafron // May 3, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    @Jesper

    Still!

    Since Yesterday, Monaco is officially second of Ligue 1, and therefore, straight qualified for the CPL.

    Tonight, we got the final of the french national cup, Rennes vs Guingamp. A great event in France.

  • 8 niafron // May 3, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    About the cup, is there some discussions in England about Cup’s winner playing the CPL?

  • 9 toonarmydownsouth // May 3, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Oldgit
    Sunderland were bottom of the table when they done the double over us and pretty sure Fulham were (possibly?) bottom of the league when they beat us

    PCardiff have it all to play for and are desperate for a result
    Our lads are just desperate for the season to finish

  • 10 magoo // May 3, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    so Pardew hasn’t spoken to Ash for a few weeks? Whilst all this is going on ? Sounds to me like he’s left the muppet to hang himself. Sounds to me like he wants Pardew to soak up the pressure and resign thereby saving himself a few quid.

  • 11 niafron // May 3, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    In fact, C1 and C2 were played by teams who won a trophy, C3 was, as Beckenbauer once said, the cup of the losers.

    Wasn’t an elegant way to point that out, but it was some truth in that.

    So, with only two european cups remaining, i consider it would be justice to have the winner of the cup in the CPL and the fourth team of the league in Europa league…

  • 12 wolfshead@toon // May 3, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    fatty is basically an absentee landlord raking in the money

  • 13 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Niafron

    Glad to see you on good sir.

    The problem with giving a cup winner a CL spot means in theory you could get some very weak teams in eufa’s showcase competition and I don’t think they want that.

    The game is money driven and people around the world would rather see arsenal get champions league in 4th place than have to watch Portsmouth/Wigan types in it. Same for sponsors and advertisers.

  • 14 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Not a bad article from the Journal today

    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-v-cardiff-city-7068151

  • 15 JAMSHA // May 3, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    wasnt der a news pardew spoke to ash n he said he would make money avaible?? n now he says he has spoken with him… hmmn fkr is a lier

  • 16 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Jamsha

    That story was that agley had spoke to coloccini to assure him money was available to keep players happy.

    No idea if true or not. Sounds like the rubbish we get this time of year to make people buy season tickets.

  • 17 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Jamsha, P45DUE tells Carr what he thinks he needs in the way of players. Carr, Mashley, Charnley, P45DUE then look at the various options.

    Mashley then tells Charnley who he can sign, how much he can spend – P45DUE has no say in the matter.

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Niafron…I am not sure, but money is sure a huge problem with football these days because you cannot have a discussion about what’s best for football without it will be all about money and what us spectators supposedly wants to see…like they know?

    …everyone loves an underdog!

  • 19 toon kk // May 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    The way MA and the so called board are running the club it will get to the stage no half decent player will want to come.
    What a mess.

  • 20 JAMSHA // May 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    hmmmm another doomd season waitng … gald il be goin on rigs… will stay away untill these 2 dogs leave our club

  • 21 wolfshead@toon // May 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    kk

    the day will come when we field 11 loanees

  • 22 magoo // May 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Graeme@14 – excellent article.

  • 23 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Wofshead – is there not a limit on the number of loan players a club is allowed to use? I have no idea, but would be interested to know!!!

  • 24 guvnor // May 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    Newcastle United, to win 3-1! Cardiff City are relegated.

  • 25 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    The answer for the Football League is a maximum of 5 loan players at any club. They can be “Short Term Loans” – under 93 days and “Long Term Loans” – yes, you geussed it – more than 93 days.

  • 26 wolfshead@toon // May 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    graeme

    it would be unusual but theres no rules against it which surprises me that fatty hasnt gone ahead with it already

  • 27 wolfshead@toon // May 3, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    @25

    disregard haha although im sure a lower league side fielded more than that in a match once

  • 28 Average_Contents // May 3, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    I think the maximum for prem clubs is 3 but don’t hold me to that lol

  • 29 guvnor // May 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    The sun is shining and the Toon are on the march!

  • 30 toon kk // May 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Guvnor
    our players are busy putting sun screen on, they think there on vacation so I think they’ll struggle with that 3-1. They aren’t earning there wages these days neither is P45due

  • 31 lesh // May 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Mike Ashley’s claim is that he’s modelling Newcastle United on Arsenal however, if one compares Arsenal FC’s vision and Mission Statement with the way he’s been running our club, there appear to be some slight variaion.

    Just how many boxes has Ashley’s ownership ticked so far?

    Arsenal FC Vision and Mission Statements
    Arsenal FC Vision

    To provide a world class soccer program that develops world class soccer players.

    Arsenal FC Mission Statements

    –To provide high level coaching to nurture and develop local talent through a technical and tactical training program combined with game competition at the highest level.

    –To staff Arsenal FC with the best and most passionate soccer coaches in the Southern California area.

    –To gain relentless support and participation from our parents, alumni, and communities.

    –To partner with other soccer organizations and non-soccer organizations that can help us reach and achieve our vision.

    –To develop and improve our facilities and equipment.

    –To improve our marketing, messaging and communication.

    –To be financially self sufficient.

    Ok, the last one’s going in the right direction but……

  • 32 guvnor // May 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Its a new month, so a change of Fortune against Cardiff City is on the cards!

  • 33 yo-yo // May 3, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    Extract from Graeme’s posted article that says it all….

    “The chances are Newcastle will finish ninth this season and yet this feels like the most damaging season since the club were relegated to the Championship in 2008.

    Some theorise that this is even worse. At least supporters had defiance and energy in the face of the club tottering into the abyss: the atmosphere at home games since the turn of the year has been funereal.”

  • 34 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    Guvnor – the only thing at SJP that is new – the month!!
    At least it changes, as a minimum, of every 28 days – nothing has changed at NUFC in the 7 years MA has owned the club.

    Oh, except his bank balance has grown, which no doubt has been assisted by having SJP as his free advertising hoarding!!!

  • 35 guvnor // May 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Could this be the first double Newcastle United have completed this season, if they were to win today?

  • 36 onepeterb // May 3, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    I keep asking myself who will bow the winners if we all work out. Supporters? No players? No. Management ? No. Press and TV.? Yes

  • 37 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Yo-Yo @ 33 – thats not an article by me mate!!

    You have the wrong Author me thinks.

  • 38 lesh // May 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Before anyone jumps on my previous Arsenal related post, here’s another take from the London club! It looks as though it’s been tweeked to suit US operations.

    http://kennethcortsen.com/football-economy/guest-blog-arsenal-football-club-brand-strength/

  • 39 guvnor // May 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Toon!

  • 40 toon kk // May 3, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Trouble is if we win today alot will think we’ve turned a corner, P45DUE will definitely keep his job, MA will wonder what all the fuss is about.
    But the cancer is still there.

  • 41 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    onepeterb

    It can’t do us any harm having a walk out. The worst case scenario is ashley ignores it and we are in the same predicament.

    Will players be put off coming here? No….not if they are getting paid which they will do, not like we go after top guys with ambition anyway.

    The most damaging thing to the club is ashley and his publicly stated lack of ambition, and even worse his cheap PR stunts which not only make us look unambitious but also like we have a liar or incompetent person running the gaff.

  • 42 yo-yo // May 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Aye Graeme – should have read the link posted by Graeme – appreciate you didn’t write it – but the comments are still spot on

  • 43 niafron // May 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    @Transfer sage

    But with a spot for the cpl, be sure only top 10 teams ( and most of the time top 5 teams) would access the semi finals stage.

    Just consider the world cup,once finished the first round you got to win 4 games in a row to be world champion and there’s no place for surprise, you always got the same teams.

    So this is about how focused are the players on the competition…

  • 44 RonVanDam // May 3, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    I’ll be watching the game from home and I’m curious to see how the whole thing plays out on tv. Also if mike ashley gives strict instructions to commentators not to mention the walkout and to keep the cameras panned away from the crowd after the hour mark

  • 45 Transfer Sage // May 3, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    niaron

    I agree it would be good, nice to have league and cup winner in the contest…..but i think UEFA and the premier league are way too money driven, the world wide fans usually like biggers teams as do sponsors so can’t see it.

    Sad state of affairs when decisions are made for money not the good of the game.

  • 46 Mister Tuff // May 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    It seems that all the press will be eagerly awaiting for the exodus today. If we are winning the zebra or clothes line watchers will probably stay.
    If we are losing/playing rubbish there is a higher chance of the walkout. I truly believe that the adverse press will be a good thing for the club in the long run.
    People say Tubbs is thick skinned -but I reckon whilst he may be lauded in the tat clothing world -the progressive anti -Tubbs sentiments coming form the North East must surely annoy him and cast a shadow about his fitness to run a football club -which in turn sours his status in the financial/retail world.
    So it may be better if we are losing on 60/69 minutes. This event, if it happens, may be the most productive happening at SJP for many years.
    Todays article in the Journal today, as mentioned earlier was very good.

  • 47 validator // May 3, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    The Journals article has the whiff of playing to the gallery about it.

  • 48 Ancientcoptic // May 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    I have a suspicion that Obertan will start today. Pardew is bound to make at least 1 unexpected change to the line-up.

    Adam Armstrong must be looking forward to the game… after getting 2 minutes and looking lively against Arsenal, he may be a shoo-in for a good 4 minutes action today.

  • 49 Himanshu Dhingra // May 3, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    We have Doubled

    CPFC
    AVFC

  • 50 Ian Toon // May 3, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Nufc.com

    “We’ve never sought to do anything other than inflict our own jaundiced views on you via this website, certainly not act as self-appointed spokesmen for the Geordie Nation. That’s why TV/radio interview requests in recent days were refused – as usual.

    For those who have asked though: regardless of the score, we’ll not be leaving before full time and for us to urge others to do that would be hypocritical.

    We respect the views of those who feel motivated to leave early, be it on 27 minutes (last title), 55 minutes (last domestic cup) or 0 minutes – that latter category belonging to those who have already stopped going.

    What we would urge though is that those with differing viewpoints don’t seek to intimidate each other. Setting fan against fan won’t help anyone’s cause, while interruptions to the game would only give our numerous critics – and the footballing authorities – ammunition.

    Stay, go or don’t come at all – it’s your call, not ours. If reading this helps you decide one way or the other, then we’ve achieved our objective.”

  • 51 JAMSHA // May 3, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    whay time does the kik off sstart

  • 52 theartfuldodger // May 3, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    If I get Mngr of the Month, Mike does not call me up..

    AttaBoy Mike, The Master Motivator..

    I suspect Armstrong will start today. Or come on at half time.
    Pardew will do something to counter the walkout..

  • 53 thepict // May 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    It is not the majority of Newcastle fans who think we will be beaten today, it is the majority of folk on here. It is a about time that folk for behind the team.How anybody who supports our team can want them to lose a game should be ashamed of themselves.

  • 54 Ancientcoptic // May 3, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    thepict, I want Cardiff to win today, and I am not apologetic about it.

    There is nothing to gain from winning this game, nada, nothing, zilch.

    If losing to Cardiff increases the pressure on getting Pardew out, then I am all for it. I do not want to see my club playing pathetic football next season, and being involved in a relegation battle, because that is what is coming. The team cannot even take a corner for goodness sake. The only reason we got anything out of this season is because of a player on loan to us from a Championship side.

    3+ years of letting other sides dominate us. Enough it enough.

  • 55 Himanshu Dhingra // May 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Brilliant set piece by Burnley

  • 56 Himanshu Dhingra // May 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    is Alan pardew Ashamed of Himself?

    I hope Cardiff Trounce us today.

  • 57 JackButler // May 3, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    We have scored five goals less at SJP than we did the season we were relegated, so it’s little wonder fans can’t see us winning today

  • 58 Sliema // May 3, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    JAMSHA

    The kick off today will start at 15:0000 GMT. It will probably finish somewhere around 15:0001.

  • 59 niafron // May 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    @Transfer sage

    Could be a good business too. The idea would be to play the whole cup after the PL. Like a play off.
    Could generate huge incomes.

  • 60 kevymartins // May 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    Big Andy to score today.

  • 61 Himanshu Dhingra // May 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    JB

    Winning? Can you see us scoring?

    5 goals against 9 men stoke!

  • 62 JackButler // May 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Himanshu Dhingra

    19 goals this season at SJP, 5 against 9 man Stoke, we scored 24 the season we went down :(

    Do I think we will score today ?

    Seriously doubt it, but who know’s as this is NUFC we are talking about afterall

  • 63 toonking // May 3, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    ancient 48

    the team that gets picked today could be a very interesting one.

    if pardew knows their is going to be a fan walkout at the 69th minute, he could well be playing mostly players like obatan. he might want to start HBA and marvo too. their is mind one player who i think he is not going to play in this game at all, armstrong and i would be glad he doesn’t myself.

    their is no way i want to see players like armstrong and dummett playing a game when their is a mass walk out

  • 64 Mister Tuff // May 3, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    thepict – could you please give a link to the poll that shows that the majority of Toon fans think we’ll win today. Thanks in advance.

  • 65 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Himanshu, Jack – Shola has scored his “One Goal a Year” last time out – there is no chance of him doing it 2 games in a row, he wont have recovered from his previous exertions.

    If LDJ has recovered from his injury, maybe Cardiff will play bad enough to get him off the mark!!

    Swansea are desperate for 3 points and the have players who can score goals – we have a shit defence, personally trained by P45DUE, need I say more??

    This has draw written all over it, but maybe Cardiff will nick it.

  • 66 JackButler // May 3, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Graeme

    Cardiff are desperate for the win so have it all to play for while we haven’t looked like we are playing for anything for months. The players look lost, disinterested and as though they are already on their summer jollies.

    I don’t think todays result will be the one that decides Pardew’s future but the walk out may have a massive say in it

  • 67 Graeme // May 3, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Jack – I meant Cardiff, honest lol

    The walk-out, if it happens, will be an amazing stride forward for NUFC fans – maybe it will prove that they DO in fact have a say in what goes on at NUFC.

    It will certainly make the Heirachy sit up and take notice!!

  • 68 davetoon // May 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    I hope we see a few Pardew out banners up in the crowd on the tv screens before they are taken down

  • 69 kevymartins // May 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    Big Andy is having a very good game.

  • 70 validator // May 3, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    Newcastle United need big Andy Carroll back in harness.

  • 71 validator // May 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    A win today for Newcastle United, seems almost certain, Cardiff City are a very poor outfit, and will be rightly relegated.

  • 72 davetoon // May 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    we should put a cheeky £7 or £8 mill bid in for Chicharito to Man Utd in the summer.

  • 73 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    validator

    yes carroll’s 10 games a season hoofball diet would really help….not! he looks ok in a meaningless end of season game where he’s trying to get on the plane to brazil. Too injury prone and too much off field baggage.

  • 74 validator // May 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    A cheeky bid for Carroll would be better.

  • 75 mindshaft // May 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    I see Lee Clark who a few were championing for toon job last season is taking brum down to 1st division …. Never rated him as a manager personally

  • 76 validator // May 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Rotonda you obviously know nothing about football making nonsensical statements like that. Andy Carroll is a proper number 9!

  • 77 AaranD // May 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Don’t care who we sign, as long as we actually start playing a certain way of football and sign players accordingly!

    There is zero footballing philosophy at Newcastle and it’s hurting every player on its books.

  • 78 JackButler // May 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Lads never mind the cheeky bids for players, we need cheeky bids for managers as Carrol back under Pardew will be dire

  • 79 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    As shockingly bad as we are under pardew I can’t really see how we could not beat Cardiff and petty easily at that.

    back on the new manager list I’d love just to see a footballing manager who plays passing, attacking and exciting to watch football. Someone like De Boer would be awesome, NOT a Brit B lister yet again please.

  • 80 JackButler // May 3, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    mindshaft

    In all honesty, people think Pardew is backed into a corner by Ashley but what Clarke has had to deal with down there is horrific, the lads been given no chance at all and is better than what is currently happening there

  • 81 davetoon // May 3, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    @Rotonda If we cant score – we cant win

  • 82 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    validator

    making a statement like that clearly shows you wrongly have a very high opinion of yourself.

    So what if he is a proper number 9, which part of he’s always injured didn’t register?

    As a Eufa part b coach I think i have a pretty good idea of the game and I think Brendan Rodgers has a far better understanding than either you or me, wouldn’t you agree ?

  • 83 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    davetoon

    I know but cardiff could only dream of having a Remy

  • 84 validator // May 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    De boer seems to be the latest must have, maybe he’ll prove to be like De Jong and Anita, hopeless.

  • 85 Mister Tuff // May 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    Hard match to call today – probably a 1 – 1 draw. If we go a goal down the standard collapse should be on.

  • 86 davetoon // May 3, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    yep a fully inspired Remy who is well fed by top class midfielders will start for most sides in the premier league but for some reason we seem to specialise in isolating our strikers and draining their confidence

  • 87 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Tk

    A walk out although not my choice would be aimed at one man and one man only P45DUE

  • 88 validator // May 3, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Rotonda im plainly far superior in my football knowledge than yourself. Remy Shola De jong, Cisse have all been injured also

  • 89 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    davetoon, tell me about it.

    Get a decent manager in and all of pardew’s excuses would
    soon be shown up for the the pathetic reasons they are.

  • 90 Ancientcoptic // May 3, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    (4-4-2): Krul; Debuchy, Williamson, Coloccini (c), Dummett; Sissoko, Anita, Tiote, Gouffran; Shola Ameobi, Remy.

  • 91 Blofal // May 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    I am actually finding myself in this insane position of not wanting us to win.

    I want the walkout to happen and I want Pardew gone and I want more pressure heaped on Ashley. I am petrified that if we win everyone involved will convince themselves it’s not that bad.

  • 92 theartfuldodger // May 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    And would you believe it… Shola starts…Will make way for Armstrong in 59th minute…

  • 93 Rotonda heights // May 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    validator,

    Again you’re confusing me with someone who gives a s—t what you think. Go and stalk someone else with an IQ in single digits. You’ll get on great.

  • 94 MacToon // May 3, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    I wonder what qualifications Pardew has!

  • 95 validator // May 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Rotonda that’ll be check mate to me another pretentious football blogger bites the dust.




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