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Pardew – There Are Problems And We Will Put Them Right

11:25 pm, Sunday, May 4th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 46 Comments

Newcastle got a great result on Saturday, and the 3-0 win over Cardiff City ensured the South Wales club would be relegated after just one season in the Premier League, but unfortunately the display did not match the result in terms of how well Newcastle played.

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Mike Ashley – not coincidence that he wasn’t at the game on Saturday

But the game was marked by protests throughout the game by the frustrated, fed up and angry Newcastle fans, and they were against both manager Alan Pardew, who was at the game and took most of the abuse, and it was the most abuse seen towards  any manager for a long long time.

The protests, chants and banners were also directed towards the owner Mike Ashley, who was not at the game, and that was not by coincidence, and Ashley simply lacks the ambition to be an appropriate, good and successful owner of such a great club as Newcastle United.

There’s really no doubting that.

But there wasn’t the mass walkout the NUST had urged, and it’s always difficult for Newcastle fans to walk out on their team at St. James’ Park, and the number who left were in the hundreds, and certainly not in the thousands.

After the game on Saturday, and 3 points which could yet see us finish in 9th place in the league, despite a run of 13 defeats in 19 league games since Boxing Day, Pardew said the club would address the problems and put them right:

“We’ve got ourselves in a position here when we’ve put so much pressure on ourselves and our fans are not happy about that.” “How best can we deal with doing it?”

“There’s no point sweeping it under the carpet and saying that everything is hunky-dory.”  “We’ve won today and it’s all good. We know there’s problems and I’m accepting that, we need to put it right.”

We so think that Mike Ashley will try to put things right in the summer, and it should be our biggest and hopefully our best transfer window for many years, if the team is to be strengthened sufficiently, so we are not fighting relegation next season..

But there are also big question marks about whether Alan Pardew will remain as the Newcastle manager, and that’s a decision Ashley will need to make shortly after our last game at Liverpool next Sunday.

The Newcastle manager has not talked to the owner for about three weeks, so he will not know too much about what Mike Ashley is thinking about the terrible run of results.

But if he does decide to sack Pardew, it’s almost certain that Ashley will try to appoint David Moyes, since he has twice in the past tried to persuade him to become the Newcastle manager, while he was at Everton.

The first time was when Sam Allardyce was fired in January, 2008, and then when Chris Hughton was fired in December of 2010.

It will be interesting to see if Mike Ashley makes any changes at all, and it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he keeps Pardew  as manager, because he has a history of having views and taking decisions, that are contrary to the wishes of Newcastle fans.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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46 responses so far ↓

  • 1 BDin9 // May 4, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    If the protests and the walk out means that Ashley delivers and Pardrew progresses then ok. I fear not on both assumptions

  • 2 toonluvva // May 4, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    Fundamentally, the problem with NUFC is that it is not being run as a football club.

    From top to bottom, mistakes are being made day in and day out. I include some of the players in that too as at times they have looked almost as if they just did not want to be in a black & White shirt.

    Mr Ashley can start to put things right by sacking P45due as soon as possible and follow it up by appointing a manager / coach who has genuine experience of running a premiership club.

    A nice cash injection to bolster the squad would also be nice as I expect a lot to be gone, if not in the summer then probably January.

    Such a positive approach will bring the fans back onside and also help keep some of the more ambitious players.

  • 3 Graeme // May 4, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Ed, you are simply wrong in saying that those who walked out were in the 100’s – look at the recordings of Sky or of the BBC – there were Thousands of empy seats, all over the ground. Rows vacated by people leaving because they are not happy with what is going on at our club.

    P45DUE has proved himself incapable of Managing NUFC. He has little tactical accumen; he consistently plays the wrong players in the wrong positions, he would sooner work a player into the ground than rotate his squad.

    Ashley is only interested in Premier League survival because A) the FA Pay-out is huge; B) The TV payout is even bigger; C) The exposure for his cheap tat company is worth £Millions a year to him.

    NUFC are no longer a Football Club, we are an Advertising Hoarding for Ashley’s other Business Venture.

  • 4 beermonkey // May 4, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    toonluvva

    what Ashley needs is a dof with whom he trusts he tried jkf but didn’t realise the bloke was a bafoon

    doesn’t look like we will get a dof now and I think its a big mistake

  • 5 thai-mag // May 5, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    We have problems and we will put them right, all together now, OH NO YOU WONT

  • 6 The next Mike Williamson // May 5, 2014 at 12:10 AM

    My main worry is they let Pardew sign the players he needs to play Pardball. English players like Colback, Wellbeck, Tompkins, Shawcross.

    My second is players like Armstrong will just vanish, then in 3 years Pardew will complain he wasn’t good enough after giving him a game or two.

  • 7 Ciaran // May 5, 2014 at 12:10 AM

    Would love to know what the hell Ed’s problem is.

  • 8 RonVanDam // May 5, 2014 at 12:15 AM

    Eventhough we wont by 3-0, our performance on the pitch was still crap. You could see Cardiff give up after the first goal and deflate after the second when the ball ended up at remys feet by fluke. Basicall the result doesnt justify the way we played

  • 9 nightfa11 // May 5, 2014 at 12:16 AM

    pardew progresses? yeah..hes been manager for 16 years..& is making the same mistakes since forever..hes 53..stubborn & arrogant..do u honestly think he can/will/ is able to change? hes blamed everyone but himself for the mess hes put us in.. the guy needs to leave.. im sick of his bullshit excuses..criticizing players publicly..playing players out of position..playing his favorites..playing defenders as attackers..defending 1 goal lead against “amateur” teams, teaching our players how to defend, yet we have one of the worst defenses in the league (we cant score & we leak goals for fun), breaking every negative record, assaulting another player..treating us like we’re retards ffs.. its a miracle hes still in charge..hed get fired from any other job..ANY.. its unbeliveble hes still here.. mcdonalds would fire him ffs..yet hes a manager of NUFC.. how the f*** is that possible?

  • 10 beermonkey // May 5, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    why wots he done ciaran

  • 11 Macas // May 5, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    Being in the ground it looked to me as though maybe a thousand or so walked out. There certainly weren’t that many gaps around the stadium and the majority stayed to support the team and to protest againt Pardew and Ashley. Even on MOTD it looked like very few were leaving. As for Pardew I think Ashley would be foolish not to replace him, but even if we had lost to Cardiff I don’t think he would have done anything until the end of the season

  • 12 magoo // May 5, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    Why does Ed insist every time on playing down the numbers despite all the comments each time and the fact that most reputable places are saying 2 – 3 thousand ? I dont get it.

  • 13 jimmysmith // May 5, 2014 at 12:44 AM

    It looks like Ashley is an extremely difficult person to convince he should do things differently. Pardew will have his remit, as would whoever might replace him, and I’m sure they’d love more money than they’ll get. But he surely can’t afford to have the fans kicking off like that. I was delighted to see it. It augers for a far better future than if they hadn’t.

  • 14 RonVanDam // May 5, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    nightfa11

    Awesome post. Agree with everything you’ve said

  • 15 BeeGuy // May 5, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    MA is a gambler. He will look to Abeid to repalce Cabaye. Cisse to rebound. Haidara & Yanga-Mwiba to bloom. He will buy a few to replace the ones that leave.

    He will stick with AP till Xmas.

    Then, he will buy what he needs and get someone with a proven track record to keep the club up.

    But: Everybody knows the dice are loaded, everybody rolls with their fingers crossed. And we have to keep our fingers crossed, too.

  • 16 Sav // May 5, 2014 at 1:25 AM

    The ’4 or 5 players’ Pardew proposes we buy is a big improvement on Charnley’s measly 2. Nevertheless, if the number of players everyone here seems certain are leaving (Colo, Debuchy, Krul, Marveau, Hatem, Santon, Shola, Obertan, Gosling, Taylor etc?) we are going to have to buy a lot more than that. Add 5 players to that list and you are talking 15 first team players and some of our main men to be replaced. Lets be conservative and say half of those players listed actually stay – we are still looking at 10 new players and moulding them into a side in a World Cup summer. Seeing is believing.

  • 17 GeordieDan // May 5, 2014 at 1:28 AM

    Ed?

    Howay man. Its been pointed out by anybody and everybody that there were 1000’s that got up and left not 100’s.

    Why do you keep stating that? Its just not true mate.

    It wasn’t 50,000 but certainly 3000-5,000 left at 69mins. By the end of game “lap of honour” I’d be surprised ifmore than 10,000 remained to wave to the players.

    Probably more like 5,000 if they’re lucky.

    Those who left left made the country take notice and that is as much as we can do (legally) to get Fatman and P45DUE to realise its not a small minority that are against them!

  • 18 lesh // May 5, 2014 at 1:31 AM

    Unless Pardew’s reiterating Ashley’s view and with his authority to speak on his behalf, then his words mean nothing.

    Pardew’s got the authority to be club spokesman but his words are meaningless unless Ashley publicly supports them.

  • 19 jimmysmith // May 5, 2014 at 1:34 AM

    The 4 to 5 players could do the job of improving the squad that started the season. If we don’t lose too many. I think keeping players is as much a priority as bringing the new ones in.They need to replace Cabaye, De Jong, Remy, and resolve the wingers issue. That is a tall order based on what’s gone on, but I don’t see how they can fail to address that without continuing to have dis affected and angry fans.

  • 20 lesh // May 5, 2014 at 1:37 AM

    Ciaran…. Is your blog up to date or is it still stuck on April 29?

  • 21 Sav // May 5, 2014 at 1:46 AM

    For a variety of reasons we got little or nothing out of having Obertan, Marveaux, Ferguson, Guttierez, Bigirimana, Amalfitano, Tavernier or Ryan Taylor on the books this year . We also got shot of Nile Ranger and let Steve Harper go. All those were supposed to be first teamers and no doubt paid accordingly. Lately, we’ve had a few games out of Gosling since his recovery, joining our small fringe squad eg. Shola, Ben Arfa, M’Biwa, Taylor, Haidara and Elliot. I wouldn’t mind if players like Colback, Campbell etc. are brought in to add to the fringe squad in place of those who haven’t played at all. Hopefully, Armstrong and Abeid will be part of this group next season. But we still need to replace Cabaye, Remy and another good striker plus a challenging centrehalf. If we lose more mainstays like Colo, Debuchy, Krul etc, then they, too will need big money replacements to come straight in.

  • 22 jimmysmith // May 5, 2014 at 1:49 AM

    Also, Abeid, Good and Armstrong will come into the mix and you may get one making an impression, but it is all that and Pardew bouncing back or replaced by better and that’s a tall order by any standards not just this lots, even if you thought they were sincere. So not optimistic, but do see them wanting to do it.

  • 23 Sav // May 5, 2014 at 1:53 AM

    Why would Monster Mash sack Pardew?
    W

  • 24 Oldgit1 // May 5, 2014 at 1:54 AM

    What’s up Ed, why are you playing down the numbers that left their seats, not impressed.

  • 25 Sav // May 5, 2014 at 2:06 AM

    Why would Monster Mash sack Pardew?
    We are in a mid-table comfort zone to qualify dor big TV money, we won’t need 4 or 5 extra players which Europa qualification would dictate. Pardew always defends his boss and with 6 years contract he will continue to do so. It would cost a packet to pay him off and there is really nobody left at the club with experience and football savvy who could deliver a replacement. As far as our performances are concerned, Mashley again didn’t even bother turning up yesterday. He is clearly of the view, shared by many, that there is no such thing as bad publicity. So plying up on the terraces and calling him a FCB is unlikely to worry him.
    The other question is, would a better manager come to SJP when they know the shenanigans here to operate under the same circumstance as Pardew? I’d say the wildcard appointment mid-season of Joe Kinnear, not to mention the sale of Cabaye will dispel any illusions that it is about to get better anytime soon.

  • 26 Go toon gooooo // May 5, 2014 at 2:14 AM

    Alan(hero from the bench)Pardew out.

  • 27 jimmysmith // May 5, 2014 at 2:16 AM

    It’s hard to imagine Ashley or equally importantly SD shareholders and Wonga thinking the scenes at St James could do themselves any good at all, particularly if you agree that owning Newcastle is essentially about advertising. I think its key that the fans continue to make it clear that they won’t settle for anything less than a competitive side and a tilt at the cups, bare minimum.

  • 28 Macas // May 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM

    Ed is playing down the numbers becasue it’s not as many as people are trying to make out. From where I was sitting it didn’t look like many left at all, and there weren’t many spaces in the stadium. I’d put it at 2000 max. Talk of 5-10 thousand is hilarious. The walkout was a total failure, the sooner people accept that the better. The fans in the stadium made their feelings clear which to be honest was probably a better approach.

  • 29 theartfuldodger // May 5, 2014 at 6:04 AM

    Sav,

    The midtable finish,specially with the atmosphere around St James’ and in the dressing room, comes at a cost. That cost will be reflected in the coming months. We will have to pay more in transfers or more wages to lure players. Either that or get mediocre players or take risks with unknowns or battle relegation.

    If that was our last season under Ashley(or nxt season is last), then yes Pardew did what Ashley wants. If not, then the whole setup has cost us more than ever.

    I do agree Ashley cant see all the damage. But he will see it oh so clearly in the coming months.

    It will be a disaster of a transfer window and Pardew will “Get on with it”
    Results will be pathetic forcing Mike to take notice.

    I dont see that sequence of events changing…

  • 30 theartfuldodger // May 5, 2014 at 6:11 AM

    Regarding the WalkOut..

    Look at it from Ashleys point of view. If he sees that only 3K left as a symbol of satisfaction, that will not change the trouble we are in.

    He will probably wish more had left.
    We had 42K in the championship. Thats not a sign of the trouble he club is in.

  • 31 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2014 at 6:58 AM

    From NUFC.com
    Given that the published 50,000 crowd reflected tickets sold rather than numbers present, estimating the size of the protest is tricky, but between 2,000 and 4,000 fans look to have heeded the called-for exit strategy.
    This would suggest even at the lower end that it was indeed thousands not hundreds.

  • 32 Oleg G // May 5, 2014 at 7:34 AM

    There is nothing great about the 3-0 we got in the last game. It was against Cardiff and the game basically finished 1-0. The other two goals came from the fact we were playing against a team that was desperate to win to stay in the league, so their defense was wide open.
    Not to mention the amount of scoring chances they had and by chance they didn’t score. The game could’ve finished in a totally different way.

    Yes, you’ve said Ed that the performance wasn’t good. But the result wasn’t good either.

  • 33 Oleg G // May 5, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    magoo // May 5, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    Ed doesn’t read the comments. Plus he was against the whole walkout.

  • 34 Thump // May 5, 2014 at 7:42 AM

    The walkout was a total failure, the sooner people accept that the better.

    From where I was sitting, I saw an entire block in the Gallowgate stand up and head to the exit on the 69th minute. That is at least 500-1000 seats. Even the commentators mentioned that there were “noticeable gaps” in the stands. I agree that it was nowhere near 10,000, but to say it was a failure is ridiculous; for every man, woman and child that left, there was another who didn’t leave and made their voices heard.

    I have two issues with the walkout:

    1. It wasn’t organised enough. There was confusion about when the walkout actually took place. Some thought it was on 60 minutes, others (and this is what I heard) thought it was on the 60th. It doesn’t matter which came first, of course, what matters is that everybody was on the same page, and they clearly weren’t.

    2. It wasn’t f’ing organised enough! If you’re going to plan a walkout, it should be made that the vast majority of people taking part should be in the same part of the stadium for a visual impact. Obviously, it was the last game of the season and tickets sell fast, but a lot of people were scattered around and it made for less of an impact.

    Regardless, the protest got media coverage, it had the club concerned and for that reason it was an absolute success, either way, fans walked when their team was winning. That is one hell of a display of defiance and that’s all that matters.

  • 35 firebug666 // May 5, 2014 at 7:45 AM

    What annoys me more than anything is the way the running of the club has managed to divide the fans. We are suppose to be united yet we fight and disagree over some of the silliest things.

    We all agree that there are major problems with the club, We all agree that something needs to be done about it. But then we all disagree on how those problems should be dealt with.

    Instead of squabbling with each other over things like how many walked out of the club, or weather we should or should not go to a match, we should try to find common ground to work from, find a compromise and then work together.

    It is now obvious that Mike Ashley is not going to sell the club anytime soon, so we need to now look at ways the fans can force him to listen to what the fans want.

    50,000 fans divided into several factions working against each other each faction trying to prove they are right and have the right approach is just getting us nowhere, infact it is playing right into Ashley’s hands. Put all the bickering and backstabbing to one side and have 50,000 fans all pulling in the same direction (Through Compromise) and then we could move forward with an established plan.

    For example, If the Ashley out campaign want to stage a march outside of the stadium, all the fans agree to take part, put you views to one side and march for the benefit of future change. then if NUST want the fans to walk out of the stadium, all fans walk out again put personal feelings to one side just do it to see if it works.

    At the end of the day it’s still us against them, United we will stand (or have a better chance) but divided we will fall (or fail).

    I would ask that those that are members of different supporter groups arrange a joint meeting of those groups in an attempt to find common ground to work from, and bring all the supporters together under a banner of compromise, and take the supporters forward in a peaceful but forceful protest until we get the changes we need.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    To those claiming some kind of victory because the walk out wasn’t as successful as it could have been, what exactly are you championing, is it the football on display, the ambitions of our owner or the desire to keep our snivelling second rate manager.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2014 at 7:59 AM

    Jazzyp,
    If Mashers spends a few quid in the summer the protests are a waste of time, not the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard on here, but in the top three.

  • 38 Toon-Prodigy // May 5, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    What annoys me, is that we may spend money this summer but this cycle will never stop. This is the model.

    Spend money when we have to, then spend nout for a couple of windows and hear the same old excuses? And, continue to sell any of our decent players when a profit can be made along the way, with no ready made replacements to come in.

    We are never going to build a squad that has quality in depth where can compete once 3-4 injuries occur. We will always struggle for wins in this league with this model in my opinion. It’s mediocrity at it’s finest.

    We are never going to be an ambitious club.

    This annoys me more than anything, and a hell of alot more than Pardew to be honest.

  • 39 tequilamag // May 5, 2014 at 8:10 AM

    I don`t think the numbers are that important. If we were getting spanked it would have been a lot more. A bigger expression of unhappiness was achieved by the crowd making there feelings known.

  • 40 cyprus // May 5, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    Unless you are a dictator and Groupthink has been instilled, it is near impossible to organise a crowd or a fan base. To illustrate: half want the manager out, half want the owner out and half ;) want them both out!
    You could take any subject and have the same sort of stats.
    A mob needs focus, and short term at that. ie. you can’t have multiple targets like, please invest more in the summer window, while reducing the SD signs and firing AP and…. etc.

    Better: “AP out”.

  • 41 cyprus // May 5, 2014 at 8:24 AM

    Also, the more you ask from a crowd the easier it is for them to decline, protected in the anonymity. So, organisers, please ask for something simpler next time. e.g. hold a p45 form up at such and such time…

  • 42 Jail for Ashley // May 5, 2014 at 8:29 AM

    TP,
    Dead right, he simply has to spend in the summer, our MD says one or two will come in, our beleaguered, despondent and snivelling manager is saying three or four, do these people sit and talk to each other, if there are people telling Mashley we can get away with bringing in two players because that’s what he wants to hear then we’re in for a season like the last one and the second half of this one.

  • 43 Toon-Prodigy // May 5, 2014 at 8:38 AM

    Jail,

    Exactly..

    What is going on behind closed doors? Where is the planning?

    But seriously, until the ambition and structures are changed at NUFC in regards to investing in the squad and the selling of players we are royally fcuked.

    It breaks my heart it does.

    I could not give a toss about Pardew right now, it’s all about the lack of ambition first and foremost for me. This buying players every few windows when we have to because players are leaving, the selling of players which weakens the team mid season, loan players.. It’s no good.

    We shouldn’t be having this sort of turmoil, it’s created by themselves because of a lack of forward thinking and consideration for the squad as a whole.

    This regime is being paid for nout.

  • 44 jimmysmith // May 5, 2014 at 8:44 AM

    It surely isn’t necessarily true that we are stuck rigidly in a cycle of buy on the cheap and only to maintain an upper mid table position. If financial fair play does have an impact, then who’s to say the owner wouldn’t be more inclined to invest more believing on field success is more realistically achievable. If there is an opportune time to push on to the next level, why wouldn’t he possibly take it. He’s over fifty and got a ton of money. Maybe just right now he thinks throwing money at NUFC is a mugs game, and it probably is considering we are a provincial giant not a global brand and the amount of money that’s in the game at the highest level. But circumstances do change and he has the financial clout. I wouldn’t rule it out at all, just think the fans need to keep the ante up so long as he is inclined to be bearish about the club to remind him we have expectations that always need to be met.

  • 45 lochinvar // May 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM

    If players such as Cabaye and Remy have to depart what logic says that coaches and managers have the right to stay. Those players earned their crust ( to a point ) , can the same be said of the coaches and the manager ? Apart from the money what ambitious players would relish being coached by our miserable lot or is it a case of if you can’t get into the private club of the super spoilt brats ( chelski and the like ) and don’t want to be in the also rans ( Villa and the like ) then joining Newcastle or Everton or Southampton might be your only choice. Man Utd are going to spend £150m plus to buy their way back into that private club of spoilt brats, clearly we won’t be doing that but a strong team of positive minded and competent players can challenge the billionaire teams as Everton and Southampton have proved – the difference being how they go about it compared to NUFC – that’s the sad part of it.

  • 46 Ian Toon // May 5, 2014 at 9:07 AM

    It would help if the supporter groups were united in a common cause. There are far too many self serving types who totally lack a focus. As an action Group they are neither feared nor respected by the regime. As a result we have seen the onward march of the corporatocracy of NUFC along the lines of SD.

    Intelligence and sensitivity are called for rather than abusing those fans who don’t immediately see your point of view and simply then accusing them of burying their head in the sand. This is no way to win the hearts and minds. Such lamentable spinelessness requires a mission statement with less chiefs but more Indians guided by a mission statement. This requires individual targeting of objectives driven by date certain accountability. Regular reporting of progress and changes made if not achieved. In fact a well orchestrated campaign- I ran such a programme whilst at Uni which was well received. It needs a few leaders. My father tells me that after countless years of Mc Geag (?) and sack the Board chanting at games he was displaced by Sir John Hall winning the hearts and minds of the fans. More brain and less brawn.

    Football fans are fickle and winning overrides short term objectives of action Groups.
    Planning in a methodical way would change the overall dynamic and outward image.
    At present there is a credibility problem because the majority need to buy into the “project”. Most fans want Ashley and Pardew out but are not convinced by the lack
    of a game plan.




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