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Newcastle Player Gets Red Card Rescinded

6:37 pm, Tuesday, May 13th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 261 Comments

News coming through that Newcastle’s Paul Dummett has had his red card rescinded, after the Tyneside club appealed the red card he got for a rather innocuous tackle on Luis Suarez after 87 minutes on Saturday at Liverpool.

paul dummett send off liverpool

Paul Dummett – disconsolate at being sent off
And we can only think that referee Phil Dowd must have been mesmerized with the Uruguayan International’s acting performance, as he writhed around on the pitch following the tackle – only to get up and play on once the red card had been given.

Newcastle had claimed wrongful dismissal, and the claim was upheld following an Independent Regulatory Commission hearing today, and Dummett simply mis-timed his tackle, having only been on the field for five minutes.

That’s good news for Newcastle, and now Paul will not be suspended at the start of next season – and it would have been a three match ban, since it was a straight red card.

Good news for Paul and good news for Newcastle.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Newcastle News · Paul Dummett · Premier League

261 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Dowd should be given a three game ban………………..or better yet make that a lifetime ban as he’s without a doubt the most pitiful ref to ever step on to a Premier League pitch

  • 2 Tayls // May 13, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Well there’s a first winkwink

  • 3 Tayls // May 13, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Damnit haha

  • 4 Tayls // May 13, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    JB, your’e right his performance was woeful. They should have the referees interviewed or do something to encourage better performances from referees. I genuinely believe some refs (Dowd for one given the number of cards he dishes out) have no idea they are doing a poor job.

  • 5 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 6:46 PM


    As a Ref he love’s being centre stage and making the game all about him, but to be fair to the man he is consistent as he’s always useless

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    Dowd is a cock. He is possibly the most self obsessed ref going. If he isn’t centre of attention he is guaranteed to make a decision that makes sure he is.

  • 7 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    Alain Perdue. A broken man for a broken plan.

  • 8 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Gosling expected to sign for Bournemouth when his contract expires on July 1st

  • 9 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Better go earn my keep mates.

  • 10 santonthenewmaldini // May 13, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    So it should be tackle was not even a YELLOW!!! Suarez was diving all over the place in that second half and Dowd was giving Liverpool every 50/50 !

    The pace that Dummett and him were going at made it look bad but Suarez had actually lost control of the ball

    That’s a thing I noticed this season when we played the “top” teams they don’t half dive about winning free kicks and fouling our players all the time City done it to us at St Jame’s when we were all over them , Arsenal cynically fouled us and so did Everton we need to learn to do the dirty tricks as well as learn to play decent football!!!

    A new manager would sort everything out !!!

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    There have been occasional vocal protests, but nothing on the scale of the Liverpool ones. They also did it consistently. Our vocal protests have been on and off, and only in the last few games has it really stepped up.

    Can you come up with a boycott that has forced a sale? Either way, fans have to settle in for the long haul whatever they decide. Vocal and still attend what is their passion, or stop going for someone else to step in for lower ticket prices and have another voice unheard?

    There isn’t really a wrong or right to how to protest, and those boycotting may be right, and I’m willing to admit I got it wrong if I have.

  • 12 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    If you take away the goals that Liverpool have scored from free kick’s in and around the box… and penalty’s ..almost always illegally obtained through diving ..where do you think they would be position wise in the prem? .

    13 -14 pens? and countless goal’s from dead ball’s, most as a result of going down if you sneezed near them ..check it out ..! con men ..Suarez is a disgrace ..

    A culture of diving at Liverpool Football club , truth be told

    I cant fathom why you would want to cheat to win .. Victory is false and hollow ..and Liverpool are the most dishonest cheating bunch I have witnessed in many a season.

    False position…Fan’s in denial.

  • 13 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    We all are entitled to opinions but I think claiming we’ve progressed since being promoted considering our league positions and subsequent collapse this season is a wind up, that is my opinion.

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    It was a stupid challenge from the kid. He had no chance of winning the ball, and he lifted both feet after the challenge. I don’t think it was a red card, but it was the sort of challenge I’d expect from someone who realises they can’t cut it against that opposition. A leveller as one of my old managers use to say.

  • 15 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM


    I drafted a message on why you’re talking complete crap but then IE crashed and I lost it. I can’t be bothered to put the stats here again. But basically, check the 3 seasons before Ashley joined and compare us to Everton. They finished well above us for 2 seasons and just below us in the third. The average points total for us over those 3 seasons…48.33 points. We scored 49 this year. Yet someone this was a terrible season?

    And Everton’s revenue? Pretty much the same as ours for the last few years, in fact I think it was slightly above ours last time around.

  • 16 toonarmydownsouth // May 13, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    Phil Dowd
    Absolute Disgrace and poor excuse for an official

    With the sort of ridiculous incorrect and ludicrous decisions he was making, not just on Sunday but all season, it’s no wonder players have no respect for officials

  • 17 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:03 PM


    And I thought we were getting along so well…

    So, you think we’re in the same situation as when we got promoted? You think our squad is as good right? We finished in 5th and now we’ve finished a solid 10th. We got 3 more points this year than the first season back in the PL and yet you believe we’ve gone backwards this season and that it was a disaster…

    Of course we’ve progressed! Just that the second half of this season was a pathetic collapse.

  • 18 kevymartins // May 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    Where is that ejit that kept saying to me on sunday it was a straight red no question?

  • 19 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM


    And calling me a WUM just because I think we’ve progressed is a little bit silly

  • 20 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:08 PM


    Thanks for support…scrolling through the last page after I had to go out for a bit!

    I admit, sometimes I get a bit emotive as I’m passionate about this club and I don’t like the bashing that our own fans give us (that’s a mackem’s job!) I don’t like to see solid servants like Shola given stick from our own fans and I want to see us give the lads the most support possible on match day to give them that extra few percent to perform for our club.

    I don’t believe Ashley wants to do much more than establish us as a solid top 8 club. The investment and the effort to get us into the top 6 and beyond is massive but if we’re a solid top 8 club then it makes us a lot more attractive for an ambitious owner to come in and bring an ambitious manager in too.

  • 21 stripes1009 // May 13, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Let’s look at this another way, Phil Dowd’s actions could have helped Liverpool had Man City been losing. For 60 mins of this game our boys were on top and then the ref intervened…….could have been a bad day for city!!!!!!!! And like others have said, how does the ref get punished for his incompetence.

  • 22 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM


    Let Ashley set the groundwork for someone else to come in and claim the glory…

  • 23 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    I don’t think you can call it a wind up, disagree, most definitely, and I’m there disagreeing with you. I’m not 100% sure how 11th, 5th, 16th, 10th is progression either. But I wouldn’t call it a wind up.

    Playing devil’s advocate, 11th is decent for newly promoted. 5th, as most on here agree was over achieving at the time. This makes t complicated because on reality we should have probably been 7/8/9th. So 16th the next season , given Europe and the 5th balances out, then 10th, back on track to be top 7/8 next year.

    I don’t believe it, but I don’t see people that have do think like that as winding up. I also don’t see how we will progress under Ashley, but as I pointed out earlier Everton fans had the same issues with Kenwright when Ashley took per, and now they are happy with him. Again, I don’t think Ashley will turn out the same way, but that doesn’t make those that do WUM’s.

  • 24 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM


    Shola been a solid servant you say ?

    So has the tea lady least she comes up with the tea .

  • 25 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    I don’t see how bouncing up and down the league can be seen as progression?

    Progression is consistently moving in one direction and not what we’ve been doing

  • 26 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:14 PM


    Just seen your apology so accepted.

    I don’t support everything that Ashley does, in fact I’ve said many times that I don’t like most things. I haven’t been even talking about Ashley today really, I’ve been talking about how things aren’t as bad as people perceive and how thoughts about how we should finish above Liverpool are simply ridiculous. We CAN finish above Liverpool but it would require a fantastic performance from all at the club and probably a poor season from Liverpool. Like when we finished 5th.

    Ludicrous hirings from Ashley, totally agree, misleading the supporters, that too. Lying in court? Don’t get that…and don’t get what it has to do with NUFC.

    But things still aren’t as bad as people make out and under the previous owner, there are no guarantees that things would be any better…

  • 27 santonthenewmaldini // May 13, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    @Online Guy

    I dont approve of it but every team does it against us so we need to learn to play dirty a bit more every big team does it tactical fouls to stop you getting up the pitch

    Another thing that has to be improved upon is set pieces under Pardew we cant score from them or defend against them we always seem to concede similar types of goals every season I just knew the 2nd Gerard stood over both free kicks it was going in the back of the net Debuchy and Krul were all over the place for both of the goals

    Its almost like teams know our set pieces are awful so would rather foul us cause they know we will probably not do anything with the set piece anyway

  • 28 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:15 PM


    Post 66 on the last page too. Perfect and sums things up very well.

    I want Ashley to get stick for the things he really deserves stick for. Unite the fans in demanding changes in the areas that really should be changed rather than banging on about silly things that either aren’t Ashley’s fault or really aren’t major issues.

    Very sensible.

  • 29 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    I disagree with a lot you post, but I can see your logic. We all get emotional about it because we all love the club. It is part of the reason we discuss(?) it on here so much. I just hate the fact if people disagree they are mackems/WUMs/Trolls etc.

  • 30 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 7:17 PM


    How can you say that things are not as bad as people make out?

    Only two club’s out of the 92 in the league’s have worse form than us, Pardew has broken just about every single record as our manager, head butt’s a player, our reserve team manager is sacked for hitting a youth player, Ashley refuses to spend anything and we are now looking at around THIRTEEN players leaving the club this summer.

    Things not as bad as people are making out?????????????????

  • 31 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Online Guy

    Shola has put his international ambitions on standby and put his health at risk to play for this club when we needed him. Remember when he put off a hip operation when SBR asked him to play on because we had injuries? I do. Remember when he didn’t go to the African Cup of Nations because we needed him to stay with NUFC? I do.

    He deserves as much respect as Harper does.

  • 32 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Sports dicrect news…Pardew for at least another year , Carlisle/Gateshead/Hartlepool /Darlington.. here I come.

  • 33 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM


    We don’t have to agree to respect each other’s opinions.

    I think a lot of my comments get twisted around by other people which in turn clouds what people think I’m actually saying. The amount of times someone has attacked me in response to a dumb post from someone else reacting to something I haven’t even said is insane!

    What did you say Lilongwe?? Sunderland have always been a bigger club?!


  • 34 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:21 PM


    Ok…you just list the negatives…should I list the positives to counteract your list? Boooring…

  • 35 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 7:22 PM


    Please do

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    I don’t see how calling someone a wind up merchant is a capital offence !

  • 37 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    You can knock Shola’s ability, cause at the end of the day he has never been anything better than a back up. But let’s face it, there are plenty of strikers who have made decent premier league careers who would also have been back up if they were behind Shearer, Martins,Owen, Ba, Cisse, Bellamy, Kluivert. He has also played through a number of painkilling injections, given up the opportunity of winning an international tournament, worn protective masks just because we needed him to.

    Yeah, Shola has earned a living and more at the club, because every manager with the possible exception of Keegan, wanted him here – including Sir Bobby.

    Shola deserves our best wishes for his future career.

  • 38 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 7:27 PM


    I respect Shola as a decent bloke, been brought up the right way and all that ..but..

    .My heart Bleed’s for him and his
    £25 thousand pounds per week salary.

  • 39 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:27 PM


    We’ve been back in the Premier League for 4 seasons now and managed a Europa League campaign, we finished in the top 10, our finances are solid, we have several top players who are at or yet to reach their peak, we have some promising youngsters (although that always seems to be the case), we have money to spend this summer and because we’re NUFC (please read SBR’s quote on this page).

    None of that is amazing (apart from the last bit) but it is good, so overall things are ok or not quite ok…maybe 4 out of 10. So not that bad. I get the impression that some fans want every season to be a 7 or 8 out of 10 or they’re not happy.

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    It isn’t. Just pointless when it comes to discussing differing opinions on football.

  • 41 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Online Guy

    Ha! I certainly have no sympathy for him coming to the end of his NUFC career! What made you say that? But I do respect him, just the same as I respect every player who tries his heart out for my club.

    Should I respect HBA more for having 10 times the ability but nowhere near the same heart? People say Shola is lazy but he’s played through injury so many times it’s incredible.

  • 42 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Shola has definitely been brought u the right way! His da used o drink in the North Terrace, proper stand up bloke on the occasions he was in.

  • 43 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Lilongwe @37

    Well said.

  • 44 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:30 PM


    But why call me a WUM when I’m just stating my opinion? I may as well call you a WUM for stating yours.

  • 45 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    Wish GeordieTwo was here to look at the stats of Newcastle and Everton in the 3 seasons before Ashley took over…

  • 46 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Sent an instant text to my brother (Liverpool fan) saying it was a terrible red card by the way…Suarez left his leg trailing and Dummett just ran into it…

  • 47 welshgeordie9 // May 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    42Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Well I never, who’d have thought mag, guvnor, welsh Geordie and validator were the same person as jeff, bob, etc and won’t be posting again until their next recreation.

    Sorry to break the news but me, mag, guvnor, and validator are not the same person, read a few comments from you and the others bitching from this morning.

    Carry on you are doing a great job

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    It wasn’t the way that Dummet took Suarez’s leg that got him the red card. It was the follow through where he lifted both feet knee height.

    Suarez made the most, but Dummett made it easy for him by making a challenge which demonstrated his inexperience.

  • 49 welshgeordie9 // May 13, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    anyway i won’t be making any comments now for a while because i can’t be bothered with some of the muppets on this blog

  • 50 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    It’s a tough go on here sometimes and we all get worked up. I really don’t think we’ll even be competitive in the league or domestic cups under Ashley. We’ll be a sad sack mid table team or worse. He has the wrong attitude for football altogether. You can’t hide and pretend everything is fine when it isn’t. All he wants to do is hide, let Pardew take the flak and make more money with Sports Direct.

  • 51 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    Leicester city’s billionaire owner has given Pearson 180 million to springboard them up the premier league.
    FFS lads that’s what you call backing by the owner. And yet Ashley is even richer and what do you think he will splash again??……that question goes to Toondarnsarf !!

  • 52 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:42 PM


    That isn’t my memory at all but I can’t find the video to see it. I thought he took his trailing leg and then he just went flying himself. While Suarez rolled around like he’d been shot. If he lifted both feet knee height then the red card would have stood surely?

  • 53 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    I have always had a soft spot for Shola. I have been asked to write for a Nigerian website for the World Cup because of my past blogs and published articles on Newcastle and African football. They want me to focus on Nigeria and Shola with a general African overview.

    England, Brazil (the Mrs is quarter Brazilian, mainly Guyanese), then Nigeria for me this World Cup.

  • 54 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:45 PM


    I saw that last night…wants to get into Europe within 3 years and is willing to spend £180M to do so…

    To be fair, I’ve seen clubs (Blackburn, QPR, Cardiff, Hull) talk big like that before and it didn’t happen so it’s no guarantee. But if they do spend it and do spend it well, then it could create another competitor in the top 10…not good…

    Is it the owner’s money though? In which case they would be in breach of FFP rules in the PL and wouldn’t get to play in Europe either if they qualified…so doesn’t make sense…even if it’s club debt then it doesn’t work either.

    But I don’t see why we should expect Ashley to spend his own money either. I want him to ensure the club is run very well so they optimise the spending of NUFC’s money. Ashley can keep his.

  • 55 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 7:48 PM


    My list of “Negative’s” or the reality of the club as it truly is, seems to out weigh any positive

    But for the sake of answering your list.

    Back in the Prem – agree (Though it was our owners stupidity that took us out of the league in the first place)
    Top 10 finish – agree (But by the skin of our teeth)
    Solid financial position – agree (easily obtained though when refusing to spend anything)
    Promising youngsters – I’ll give you that one as only time will tell if they are ever going to make it or not.
    Several top players who are at or yet to reach their peak – Seeings as hardly anyone progresses under our current manager thats not really a positive with Pardew being retained.
    We have money to spend this summer – Wouldn’t go holding your breath on that one as any spending will be to continue to papering over the massive cracks in our squad.

    But whatever you do, do not allow the all that has happened over the past 7 years to cloud your opinion of Ashley as he’s doing a swell job

  • 56 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    He made contact, then n the follow through both feet went high. First viewing, I don’t think Dowd can be blamed.

    I don’t know the Leicester owner, or who he is, but he should have a chat with Tony Fernandes. Throwing money at signings works sometimes, not always. Pearson has the team playing well and playing together. I watched them a few times earlier in the season. They made it by grafting for each other. To stay up they will need that same quality. You have to be very careful replicating that if you spend £180million.

  • 57 Ian Toon // May 13, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Spoof- Thank you for taking the trouble to make your heartfelt views known to me. You were clearly too young to appreciate the Fairs Cup victory and losing in a League Cup and two FA Cup Finals would have been no consolation.

    Some years ago I discovered a second hand book shop in North Shields where they had countless books on Newcastle dating back to the 1950’s and 1960’s. Not all written by John Gibson-LOL. However reflecting on the recent past my early years were watching the toon under Keegan/ Hall and I guess like many youngsters I thought football started with Sky and the Premier League.

    My current objectives are fundementally outside seeking to influence the fortunes of NUFC. I went to a state school and won a scholarship simply through hard work and this influences my thinking about the here and know. It will mean me sacrificing the opportunity to watch the toon home and away but something has to give.

    I don’t know whether you follow cricket but I was lucky enough to meet Joe Root during the recent Middlesex v Yorkshire match at Lords. He is a talented, focused individual who has all the attributes to succeed. He personifies the need to know oneself and not blame others for ones troubles and moods. He was telling me how he had a broken thumb early in an innings but managed to bat on for a century with the help of pain killers. He put it down more to focussing on his batting than the aid of the pain killers.

    I will look out for your posts and thanks for the good advice.

  • 58 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM


    Post 50 is not far from the truth I think mate.

    I don’t see us competing in the league for many years to come (if ever) because we’d need to see really significant and consistent progress over a number of years OR a huge amount of investment.

    As for the cups, I think if we can get through the earlier rounds with squad rotation (like every other club does), then it makes sense to put out the big guns for the last 2 or 3 rounds. No way would we put out a weakened squad in a semi-final or final unless we seriously needed to rest a couple of players with knocks to qualify for the CL or avoid relegation.

    Your last sentence is right. But not much we can do to change it…

  • 59 AaranD // May 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    That Rudiger lad playing in the Germany friendly tonight, started right back.

  • 60 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Shola’s Family are religious, and good Christian’s..His Da is involved with the Church in a deep way.

    Shola on about 1.4 million? and scored twice this season + 1 in league cup . that’s about 433 k a goal if that’s his job .. That’s football ..awash with dosh ..even for the failures on the pitch.

    Iv watched Shola from a kid..I would rate him as average right through his career. He’s led a Charmed Life . People respect him because he’s a well mannered bloke.

  • 61 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Can you see him spending any of the tv revenue though bud ?? or even the money of outgoing players.
    Personally feel that he will have to change his outlook on Nufc, Rather than just seeing it as a business venture

  • 62 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:51 PM


    Awesome. I’ve hear Shola being interviewed several times and he seems like a lovely bloke who loves this club. He could have had many caps for Nigeria, played in international competitions and maybe been a star for a lower PL or Championship club but he kept putting his body on the line for a bit-part role for us. His wage isn’t relevant, someone claimed Harper was getting £40kpw last year, but as a NUFC player, I admire him a lot more than a lot of the prima-donnas who have come to our club with twice the natural ability.

  • 63 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    I work in Leicester most week’s mate and the buzz it has created around the town and between the fans is phenomenal. I just wish we had a glimmer of hope or feeling that these Leicester fans are going through at this moment in time

  • 64 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    We’re going to get left behind by more and more clubs thanks to our incompetent, unambitious owner. He hasn’t got a clue and doesn’t intend to hire anyone who does. Looking to next season in all honesty? Back to bottom 10 for us, possibly as low as 15th or 16th. If we’re in the bottom 5 after 10 or 15 games Pardew will be sacked and another mediocre lackey yes man will be brought in.

  • 65 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:56 PM


    You do know that there is a lot of ground between “Ashley is the devil” and “the sun shines out of Ashley’s arse”? I have made it quite clear that I believe neither but I’m actually closer to the former than the latter.

    I was disappointed with last summer transfer window, heavily disappointed with the January window and I’ll be disgusted if we don’t sign several players who can go straight into the first team. Obviously at least 1 top striker, at least 1 striker/forward/winger at least 1 top playmaker and several more around the squad too.

    We’re not enemies mate. I don’t really like being attacked like I’m some kind of pseudo-Ashley just because I’m not as aggressive in my objections to his behaviour as some on here.

  • 66 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Online Guy

    I’m not religious and I agree Shola is an average PL player (at best to be honest). But all footballers live charmed lives really. I respect him because of what he has done for NUFC (international ambitions on hold and putting his body on the line especially). That’s all I care about really. I don’t see why Harper was lauded and Shola is not. They’re equal in my eyes.

  • 67 tequilamag // May 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Jazzyp I lived in Leicester when Martin Oneill was manager and Heskey was the next big thing. That Buzz around town is probably Skunk.

  • 68 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    You must have lived in Braunstone or highfields then mate lol

  • 69 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    Yup, correct. His Dad was the priest at the church 2 streets away from the North Terrace in Spital Tongues. He also came in with his wife about once a month. He used to have a juice, and she would have a glass of wine.

    I don’t disagree with the feeling it gives fans, but Leicester are a close knit team from what I have read and heard, so that sort of cash presents issues. The sort of issues I’m sure any manager would want. But it isn’t just cash that makes a team.

    I’ve met and chatted to Shola a number of times. Played football with another Nigerian at Uni who was very good friends with him. I have an awful memory of the two of them singing I believe I can Fly at the Vault one Wednesday night. People think he can’t play football, his singing is wore!

  • 70 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:02 PM


    Yes of course I think we’ll spend the money. The Cabaye money hasn’t gone anywhere and the TV money hasn’t either. Ashley can’t take it without it appearing in the accounts and he knows we need players.

    So yes, surely we’ll spend a fair bit on players this summer. Have to consider agents fees and wages if we sign a lot of players but must think there will be a lot spent on transfer fees too if we want to get the players in that we need.

  • 71 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 8:02 PM


    I respect Shola for his Loyalty .. is it his wage that brings that loyalty? hmmm, He is a trier, certain game’s ?..sometimes seems disinterested and lazy ..Have you witnessed that ?

  • 72 tequilamag // May 13, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    I used to live opposite the 24 hr garage in Highfields. Lively old place.

  • 73 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    If he just wants us mid table then we can’t be left behind by more and more clubs. The maximum is seven! Don’t be so defeatist!!! ;-p

  • 74 Ian Toon // May 13, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Mr Tuff- I have posted before on the wheat and chaff comments. Your right though that it is deeply depressing to have so many infantile and rude posts from embittered nutters.

    Shortly after first posting on here I mentioned to Ed that I thought a number of our regulars had mental health issues. He assured me not to worry because they were amongst the best the site had to offer. Anonymity does often bring
    out sheer nastiness and unpleasantness. I personally don’t mind bluntness
    but sheer nastiness unaccompanied by any argument makes a dispiriting and
    boring read.

    I thought you had been absent when I looked in but must confess I don’t recall
    reading any of the dullards you mentioned. I generally read a few of the most
    entertaining and football brains trust types. I did notice now I think about it that
    some of the banished were attacking Tsunki. Who I find a right riveting read.
    No doubt your thrilled (zzzz) at the prospect of Pardew being around for a while yet. Tim Sherwood for Norwich!

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // May 13, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    People slam Shola but heatedly defend Cisse?

    Know who id rather have
    Shola fights tooth and nail, the painkilling injections he had to play through a major hip injury for TWO seasons is a testament to his loyalty and paints a very different picture to those who say he’s only here for a pay cheque
    As for lazy, he had a major operation on his hip which many managers/ club medics have stated will have effects on him through his career
    Let’s not state he’s lazy when the lad most probably still feels the effects
    He runs out of puff come 60-70 minutes but he bullies and harries defenders in a deep role from the first minute when he starts and many ex CB’s/Defenders often comment how he’s the kind if player who you know you’ve just been in a real game with, most notably Carrager and Neville
    Whilst not a world beater this bloke has always given 100% for this club, played through injuries on painkilling injunctions when the high earners where happy to warm the treatment bench and forfeited the chance to represent his country simply because we needed him

    Regardless of what you think of him as a player you can’t question his continued commitment to the badge of the years and wish him all the best in what ever he does next in his career be it here or elsewhere

    He’s most likely played his last game for us, so just wish the lad well instead insulting a man who like it or not has earned us some bloody valuable points at desperate times

  • 76 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 8:04 PM

    Ah well I can always go back to making fun of Ashley.

  • 77 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:04 PM


    Did you read my post about the 3 years before Ashley took over? Have a look at Everton and Newcastle then too. Your stats kind of fall over then…

    I think we finished something like 12th, 7th and 14th while Everton finished something like 4th, 11th and 5th. I may be slightly wrong but pretty close. And our average points total in those 3 years was 48.3. Less than this season.

    You did start on stats…

  • 78 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:05 PM


    I don’t blame the ref. It was only after the nice TV replay that I was 100% sure he was wrong. I wasn’t one of those slagging off the ref…not my style.

  • 79 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    No mate but money would be a start for ourselves. Even one incoming transfer would be a starting point.
    Like Tds said I will be disgusted if we don’t bring in 5-6 players at least this summer, That are first team players and not the fringe players that we keep bringing in

  • 80 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    I just see the state of the club as disastrous Lilongwe mate. And after 7 years. There is no positive direction to take encouragement from. I see your point though. Poor reasoning on my part. Yes you’re right mate. We won’t be a mid table, mediocre club. We’ll be worse than that starting with next season. The club is broken and we can’t fix it but I will continue to support it.

  • 81 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:06 PM


    I saw him out a few times but never actually met him or interacted with him in any way and he seemed to behave with respect when I saw him. Unlike Craig Bellamy who was out with two bodyguards in the Living Room the day that he had a big blow up with Souness…

  • 82 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Highfields Wallsend? i don’t know the 24 hour garage, but I tore my ankle ligaments playing against the Highfield Wallsend team.

  • 83 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 8:07 PM


    I’m not attacking you by any means and do not see you as an enemy at all, but when you post “Things are not as bad as people make out” it come’s across as a rather silly comment seeing’s we’ve all witnessed what has happened over the course of Ashley’s reign.

    I’m not a negative person but one that is reacting to what is happening to the thing that I love and 90% of what come out the club is negative as the owner does not understand what the club or means, he doesn’t understand, or simply doesn’t care about the fans who hand over their hard earned money to follow the club, the City or the people who live in it.

    He may not be the devil, but he is a very naughty boy who doesn’t deserve to be the owner of such an amazing club

  • 84 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    Online Guy

    I think he’s not always totally fit mate. He certainly doesn’t seem to be fit enough to run around a lot for 90 mins and still do the right thing with the ball. Perhaps playing on while injured so many times has knackered him. Perhaps that’s why they love him sticking around, because he’s shown true loyalty. Speculation but it wouldn’t surprise me.

    If you can’t respect Shola because he earns £25kpw then I don’t know how you can respect any footballer to be honest.

  • 85 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM


    Lovely post on Shola too. Well said. I’m glad some fans remember what this lad has given to the club rather than just complaining that he’s not the world class striker that we’d like him to be.

    And let’s not forget his nickname…

  • 86 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    I think the best way for me going forward might be to start working with the kids again. Coach a team of young’uns. Try to instill some decent values. Get away from the corruption and rottenness of the professional game. So many of the incoming owners have been absolute dross in the last few years. A shocking indictment of the game at the top in Britain.

  • 87 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:11 PM

    Online Guy

    Read TADS post @75. Adds more detail to my last post and sums up my understanding very well.

  • 88 tequilamag // May 13, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Lilongwe. Highfields in Leicester.

  • 89 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    I agree with your assessment on Strolla. But in truth if we had kept our main strikers instead of selling them off, He would have never been near the first team. Even Ipswich and Stoke seen the light with Shola.
    Like you said mate I wish him all the best in his future endevours, and for his loyal service. But personally am glad he hopefully is off our books

  • 90 armchair fan // May 13, 2014 at 8:14 PM


    Nice that you mention sholas dad, brings back memories of when I used to play out in stanhopa with tommy ameobi who lived with his auntie Connie, sometimes sammy came too.

    Mind you, my mother tells me when we used to live round there that shola shouted my nana was a lesbian so she punched him and had to jump as he was so tall lol.

  • 91 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 8:14 PM

    He is Satan’s Hatchling JB mate. 🙂

  • 92 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:15 PM


    You’re right. He’s completely the wrong owner for NUFC now. Although he was probably needed when he first took over. Shame he couldn’t just stabilise things and then sell us onto a more suitable owner…

    But things just aren’t as bad as people make out. If they were then the fans of Blackburn, Wolves, Leeds, Portsmouth, Boro etc. must be damn well suicidal!

    The fans are the club mate. Without us, there’s nothing really. Ashley runs the club and is in charge of the money and everything that happens but he isn’t the club. But we need to stop the infighting, get behind the team and unite to demand improvement in specific things than can be changed rather than demand an owner leave when he’s just going to dig his heels in.

  • 93 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Some of us will agree to differ on Shola ..thats Ok..

    When you look at it as a whole, is it a bad idea to play a non producing player ..who takes up one of the most important positions on the pitch ..and depend on him for every thing the club stands for, and is trying to achieve ?

    Cisse is another non producer..I have hope’s for him though ..Iv been hoping for Shola to come good from watching him at 14 years old.

    The final objective is to win something as a Football Club..Be it cups or high league position.. we aint gonna do that with also rans.

    Club comes first..Not any individual who is paid to do a Job and consistently fails at doing it.

  • 94 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    Yeah, it would be a start, but you need to start from the right foot. 5/6 players, yeah, probably not far off. But they have to be the right players.

    That is the issue. I don’t see us being better. I said last summer I’d accept a transition season if there was an obvious direction. I’d stand by that again, but faith in Ashley will run out for us all at some point and already has for me. Some will keep it longer than others. That doesn’t make them bad people, or even wrong. I’d love to see Pards replaced, a bit of investment and a young vibrant attacking team next season. I don’t think it will happen under Ashley.

    Boot out the current staff, get rid of the established, and bring in a group of youngsters who can grow together and individually, with a coach who has a record in doing that. That gives us , the fans a bit of excitement, and it also brings more profit to the club when they join a top club. It is a win win, for us and Ashley. Baffliing that he doesn’t get that.

  • 95 jazzyp // May 13, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    “Stop the infighting”………..There will be all out war if Mashley fails to sign anyone again this summer

  • 96 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Good post tads @75. I like the lad a lot but time to move on now. Bring in a real striker Mike or watch us nosedive next season. There is nowhere to hide this time.

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Welsh Geordie,
    I finally had enough of being called a muppet from the two posters you engage a lot with, I e mailed Ed saying that mag, guvnor and validator were the same person and I’m not sure about welsh Geordie, he got back to me today and said that they were the same person and he has blocked their comments, there has been a mistake with you obviously but your willingness to engage and encourage with a bloke so obviously on here for the sole reason to insult people has tarred you with the same brush.

  • 98 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    Online Guy

    A trophy. What we need is a trophy. 5th place didn’t make us satisfied, it just left us wanting more…

  • 99 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Ok. I’m off for my dinner. The missus has cooked so if I’m not back in the next few days, I’m probably dead…

    Night all.

  • 100 GeordieTwo // May 13, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Excellent post @94 Lilongwe mate. I share the same thoughts there. Why doesn’t Ashley get it? Is he really a masochist at heart?

  • 101 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Tomi once turned out for a out team I played for. I think one of the lads put it on his Wiki page, the Collingwood Arms. Shols and his family are great people, if we judge by the 5 I have met. But honestly, never let Shola sing. Ever. Under any circumstances. Ever.

  • 102 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Pardew answered his questions on Total Sport tonight in his typical politicians way, completely sidestepped the question on how many players, there’ll be two or three brought imo.

  • 103 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    *out team is pub team

  • 104 JackButler // May 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM


    the world cup is a tailor made excuse for them to fail to get enough players over the line, but you never know we could have more panic buying come January when Pardew make’s another pig’s ear out of next season

  • 105 toonarmydownsouth // May 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Haven’t disagreed with the fact that in reality he’s not a first team player ability wise and yeah if we hadn’t constantly flogged our star CF’s then things might be different but if we’d flogged them and him?

    As for Stoke, fair enough, but Ipswich he failed a medical due to a hamstring problem he’s had for a while
    Another injury delayed treatment…

  • 106 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM


    I know you have just gone but…

    I don’t think we have really progressed since we were promoted, as you say, 3 points better off with a season much better and a season much worse in between, a very inconsitent way to stay the same.

    Everytime we do progress we end up taking a massive step back in the next transfer window by not buying or selling a player.

    Then come the summer we lose remy’s loan, so need a to class CF just to stand still…’s difficult.

  • 107 Readingmag // May 13, 2014 at 8:28 PM


    I would have accepted 10 prior to start of the season….

    Were would accept at the end of the 14/15 season.

    PS. for the record. I love Shola……will be gutted when hes gone…honest, messed around, never truly gifted, The mackem Slayer…..Thank you Shola and great luck for the future.

  • 108 toonarmydownsouth // May 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    I’m not sure how to tell you this but there letting Shola turn the 9 bar into Ameobi’s karaoke bar!

  • 109 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM


    Has there been a mistake though?
    ‘ was it

    welshgeordie9 or welshgeordie 9 ?

  • 110 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    It is partly why I don’t think he takes money out of the club, and find that argument a little pointless. If that was indeed his aim, then ensuring we have top staff to progress young players would be buttons compare with potential sell on fees.

    It is also my biggest gripe with him. I want to see the kids progress. I have worked with some of them in the early stages of Ashley’s tenure, writing reports, and marketing them, I don’t know the current crop but the same issues seem to be happening.

  • 111 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM


    How are you sir, been a while since i got to chat with you. Hope all is well.

    I am still confident if not excited for the summer, think we will get enough to keep us around 10th, so be exciting to see what the cub think will do that.

  • 112 Readingmag // May 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Whats Shola’s song……’ and I miss you ‘

    Still love Shola …TV interviews are priceless

  • 113 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM


    It’s something I find very odd with all prem clubs, they have more spending power than your equivalent club around europe, so not sure why the don’t hire better coaching staff for the kids (instead of millions spent on facilities then peanuts on coaches so it’s wasted).

  • 114 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    If that is serious, then I am so glad I am out here in deepest darkest Africa!! Remembering Shola and Ojo (from the Uni team) singing I believe I can Fly still makes me wish I had drunk more in the Rose and Crown!

  • 115 toonarmydownsouth // May 13, 2014 at 8:40 PM

    He’s changed his song to “don’t wanna miss a thing” in hopes it moves Pards and gets him a new contract 🙂

  • 116 the truth will out // May 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    that numpty would be the first to get a slap

  • 117 toonarmydownsouth // May 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Don’t be ridiculous we all know Ashley wouldn’t part with peanuts!

  • 118 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM

    wanted the fans to get a good song out i sent to a fan group but they never did. to the tune of radio gaga

    all we want is, hatem ben arfa, hatem ben arfa, ben arfa

  • 119 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM


    maybe the peanut shells then haha

  • 120 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    Good to hear from you mate. It always frustrates me that English clubs put a footballing career ahead of a coaching career. Lots of people take up coaching as a speciality as a 20/21/22 year old, yet we continue to see ex pro’s get the job. In the UK it is a jobs for the boy’s culture that is less evident in lesser European leagues.

    Of course some will do well, but surely someone who dedicates themselves to coaching and developing players from 20 onwards will be more qualified. Holland, most coaches have coached all age groups from U16 up before being given a chance.

    The current England Women’s coach was in charge of the Swansea academy when Joe Allen and Neil Taylor broke through, but he had to go to Bristol City’s women’s team before England Women’s. Ludicrous when you think Steve Stone’s qualifications are …… premier league football.

  • 121 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    ‘Don’t want to miss a thing’. Surely even big Shola realised that ship had sailed!

  • 122 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:49 PM


    It just makes no sense, sure ex players have something to offer, they have lived and experienced it, so can offer a lot. but that doesn’t mean somebody without that experience is a bad coach or that even somebody with the experience is good.

    All coaches should be very thoroughly interviewed and then have a club standard they must meet, so training and support given even more to always improve them.

  • 123 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:51 PM


    also i’ve been very impressed with the work steve mclaren has done at derby, one of a few english coaches who chanced his arm abroad instead of a safe job in england and it has taught him a lot.

  • 124 Tsunki // May 13, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Laurent Robert 32 // May 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Laurent Robert 32 // May 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Tsunki, how does that sound stupid if no better teams want him? If he’s was playing really well then other teams would be bidding for him. His loan clubs didn’t even work out well for him. He has nowhere near fulfilled his potential. He strolls about and has given very little product for the length of time he’s been here.

    His usual lackluster performances haven’t justified clubs laying down decent money to aquire him, so he stays with his club and strolls some more.

    Nice for him that he’s stayed so long at the club he supports but he would have been released years ago if he wasn’t from the area.

    LB32, sorry mate but that just consolidates its daftness for me. So, what you are saying is that no other club would sign him, not even in a lower league, so rather than let a home grown lads’ contract lapse and release him, the club has kept on extending his contract.

    Now lets check the list of players retained by clubs on £25k per week simply for being ‘from the area’……..

  • 125 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    I like Shola, not the best player but a passionate lad and from all accounts a good lad off the field with players too.

    He hasn’t lived up to the potential sir bobby saw in him but he has scored some important goals for us over the years and won’t be forgotten.

  • 126 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Would anyone give a bricky a job as an architect because they had been a bricky for 12 years? Course not. So why let people who have done the labour on a football pitch then explain it to others. (Slightly dodgy but I’m sure you get my point)

    Even at NUFC, our highest qualified coaches have never played pro football. Yet the only one’s who have contact with our first team did.

  • 127 Tsunki // May 13, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    LR32 I meant, sorry.

  • 128 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Steve Mclaren is a victim of the difference between English and continental management. A great coach, but not a good manager. Newcastle’s current set up requires a top coach, but not a top manager. McClaren would do a decent job here.

  • 129 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM


    Well I think it is right to offer some players fast track roles into coaching, get them through courses, but not to the point where they are almost handed a qualification and a job.

    I think if they can show they genuinely want to coach, have enough about them and can ta into the experiences they have through playing and working with top coaches then it is a good idea.

    But I’d still expect clubs to properly interview them and hold them to the same standards as people who have coached their whole career.

    All i’m meaning is i wouldn’t dismiss somebody for being a pro footballer, but i wouldn’t take it as a given they will do a good job.

  • 130 Big Pappa Cissé // May 13, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    Off Topic, But has anyone else seen the new Batman suit ? .

    Looks Unreal 🙂 .

  • 131 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 9:03 PM


    It’s ineresting how clubs work. I think the manager should obviously have a say in who he wants but should be in conjunction with scouts and others level coaches at the club to decide what is the best approach and who they really need.

    I agree there is a difference and also that he would work well here.

    For me the teams manager must be a good coach (or be very willing to heavily delegate to a good coaching team), otherwise it’s a total shambles.

  • 132 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    to add to my last post….

    Anyone manager can manage anything a bank manager could run a football club well, but he would need to make sure he had knowledgeable people working for him so they deal with coaching, scouting, etc and he just orchestrates everything, keeping people working together and in contact.

  • 133 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    To elaborate, a lot of European clubs operate under exactly the same system we do, hence a lot of our fans offering up foreign managers as possible replacements. They coach, while someone else deals with transfers.

    You need a coach who can get the best of people though to be successful. Pardew isn’t that.

  • 134 Tsunki // May 13, 2014 at 9:06 PM

    Shola’s shortfalls as a player are clear, but it seems some of his strengths and his professionalism aren’t, consequently a good number of people more qualified than most of us retained him. His time has come and we should bid him farewell, but the vitriol reserved by some is competely unjustified. He deserves some respect as a dedicated club man. No player who serves us with that commitment should end his career with scathing criticism simply for doing what he was employed to do.

  • 135 Tsunki // May 13, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    BPC – I saw they were unveiling the new batmobile, wheres his suit at?

  • 136 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 9:08 PM


    Let’s put this Shola debate to bed , you said this

    “If you can’t respect Shola because he earns £25kpw then I don’t know how you can respect any footballer to be honest.” .

    There’s a Twist in there from you TDS ..That’s not what I’m trying to convey . Or said.

    For the greater good of the Club Shola is not someone I would have in my team .. playing him just show’s up the fact that the Club are short of decent striker’s.

    I don’t look at Football clubs and favour individual’s, I look and take note of a football Club as a team, on the pitch.

    If there’s a weak link, its got to go lets forget it’s Shola could be anybody ..and if its to the Team’s detriment to give non producing player’s ..consistently non producing,( take note) , then he’s got to go ..

    Hey full respect for trying though ! whatever it cost’s the club per goal per season . 2 goals @ 1.4 million ..Hmmm. seven hundred thousand pound per goal …Is shola worth it ?

    My Auntie Aggie would have got at least 3 with her massive arse, just standing around in the box ..

  • 137 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    Don’t get me wrong, obviously some ex players can make very good coaches. I just hate the fact that just because you haven’t you can’t. Nonsense. Our two highest qualified coaches still aren’t 30.

    I think managers should have a say in who/what they want, but should they pick the man, or should they just decide the type of player they want and leave the selection of who is best for those who are better at judging?

    A manager in the traditional sense (in England) works a lot harder than his European equivalent. But would it not be better to have a specialist in each role? Rather than having a jack of all trades.

  • 138 Big Pappa Cissé // May 13, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    @ Tsunki

    Enjoy 😉 .

  • 139 Tsunki // May 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    BPC aaah i see. Looks cool but still dont know how this batman v superman thing is going to work. I remember seeing the batman/superman logo on a poster on the set of I Am Legend at the beginning. How long ago was that? Hang on, am I on the riht blog ? 🙂

  • 140 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    Online Guy,
    How about the centre forwards during Shola’s time who turned a niggle into a pull, while Shola turned a broken jawbone into something he would play in a mask with. Yeah, he was never more than average, but he gave more than many of his contemporaries. So yes, he deserves a bit of respect.

  • 141 Munster Mag // May 13, 2014 at 9:51 PM

    Lilon, agreed. Shola last through all those managers, so clearly each saw something in him. He also played on with a bad hip injury and was rightly praised by Roeder for his commitment to the cause. I hope he gets a new 1 year deal. Too many tools on this site whinge about lack of effort, then dont see the efforts of guys like Shola, because he’s not quick enough, skillful enough etc. Just shows how pathetic many fans are.

  • 142 boater // May 13, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    Out of the 15 league games we won this season, shola started 8, plus 2 more in which we scored late winning goals after he came on as a sub. It’s not his fault the continual lack of squad depth mean he – the 4th choice striker – is relied upon, match-fit or otherwise. So he’s become an easy scapegoat for the unthinking mob down the years, who fail to recognise the subtle, unselfish tactical advantage he provides to the team – and most importantly a strike partner.

    As a 4th choice striker, we’d do very well to find someone as committed, match savvy, and willing to sacrifice themself for the sake of a team tactic – be it out of position or on the bench – without so much as a grumble, as Shola. I’d give him another year without a second’s hesitation.

  • 143 Lilongwe Geordie // May 13, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    I don’t want him to get another contract as a player here. I would prefer Campbell and Arma to do his role next year. But I do think he deserves a hell of a lot more respect then some people give him on here.

  • 144 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 10:04 PM

    TDS—” But things just aren’t as bad as people make out. If they were then the fans of Blackburn, Wolves, Leeds, Portsmouth, Boro etc. must be damn well suicidal”—— you mean all the big clubs of this world?

  • 145 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 10:06 PM


    True, you don’t need to play to be a good coach, they are sepqrate but the experience of playing is very good to have, far from the main criteria though as you say.

    I think it’s hard to say, from what man utd players/staff had said ferguson did little himself, mainly delegated but he manager to bring everything together, so something can be said for a traditional manager.

    I think the key is to make sure, no matter what the exact set up, that you have the right people doing the right things, anyone running training drills must know what hey are doing and how to get the message across.

  • 146 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Hey what happened to the statement the club was going to release for the past two days now, last season I remember it being around 4-6pm in the evening if I remember right and they were quick to release a statement saying Pardew is safe.

    But now, it seems they are dragging, and I hope it is for the right reasons as Pardew was supposed to have a private meeting with only Mike Ashley today.

  • 147 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 10:09 PM


    For me the playing side isn’t great, our yoyo form is a nightmare for us fans but ultimately for me it’s the lack of communication from the club to fans, even worse the lies in the communication, then the general feeling Ashley brings to the club and the city.

    People can tolerate bad results if they think the club is trying it’s best, obviously still annoyed but more forgiving, it appears Ashley almost tries to make things worse at times.

  • 148 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 10:10 PM


    It was all paper talk, I think they needed to make ones last year but this year they may well think why should we make a statement when the clubs goals were hit.

    Like you I’d love to see him go, just don’t think he will.

  • 149 SuperShearer // May 13, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    Is there any way we could get Fer from Norwich? Good attacking midfielder, could do a good job and with Norwich relegated he could be on the relative cheap.

  • 150 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 10:15 PM

    In his interview on TS tonight he made a half hearted suggestion that he hopes he’s in charge but sounded very much like a man who knew he was going nowhere.

  • 151 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I am shocked anyone believes journalists these days, why would Mike Ashley out of all people allow “nufc representatives” to share there transfer budget to the world and expose the amount we have to spend as teams will use it to expose us and ask for double or even triple value of players.

    Was the NE not banned long ago by the regime and they only allow SkySportsNews to actually get any news at all.

    That £60m statement certainly looks like a media stir up to see if there is any gullible nufc fan remaining to sign up for season tickets and buy merchandise in my eyes.

    Mike Ashley knows this decision will prove crucial and the supposed “meeting” today with him will show the outcome.

    I genuinely think nothing is certain if he is staying or not till its said so, I have hope in me as always.

  • 152 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM


    I’m not sure, maybe we could, but I’m not a huge fan, would hope we could go for some better standard than that.

    I’d be interested in looking at Aaron hunt, gomis, ince (as free’s), then players like siem de jong, gareth barry (free again i think), townsend might be up for grabs.

    Then in all honesty I’d go all in for a striker like lukaku (unrealistic but maybe worth a shout), demba ba (unlikely again) or benteke.

  • 153 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    Happened to come back when reading news on my iPad…

    Online Guy

    You wrote, “I respect Shola as a decent bloke, been brought up the right way and all that ..but..

    .My heart Bleed’s for him and his
    £25 thousand pounds per week salary.”

    So, how am I supposed to understand that in any other way than I did? In other words, you respect him as a man but don’t respect him as a footballer because he’s well paid.

    I’ve no problem with fans wantng better players at our club, but I just don’t agree with the stick Shola gets. If Cisse, Martins and others had Shola’s commitment then they’d have banged in 20 goals every season. Shola should never have been higher than 3rd choice striker at our club in my opinion and that’s what he’s been mostly. Most of his games have been as sub so the stats are misleading.

    Put aside your issues with the club’s transfer dealings, we’re just talking about Shola here and I think he deserves respect.

  • 154 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 10:19 PM


    Well I hope you’re right.

    As for the budget, total garage, they always speculate about budgets, arsenal to have 70mil, man utd 150, liverpool 60, read it all the last few weeks…..just anything to sell a paper.

  • 155 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    Yes, offer what he and Norwich want, that normally does the job, offering 2M less than what Norwich want then going back on what you’ve offered the player after Norwich have finally accepted your prolonged offer generally sees them not making it over the line.

  • 156 SuperShearer // May 13, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    TS – think Lukaku and Benteke are both waaaaaay out of our league. Lukaku maybe on loan if Chelsea are willing, Benteke would cost upwards of £15 mil and don’t see MA forking out that much. Fer is dynamic, in the Dutch squad and probably within MA’s price range. Would hope we’re at least looking at hin.

  • 157 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    Hey evening mate, after the Liverpool game post-match in the interview when he was asked a question or two about if he think Mike Ashley has still got his back it was said that he immediately ran out rushing from the press conference/interview or what ever they conduct to the limited media these days.

    The supposedly private meeting with Mike Ashley today is what will determine his future but as you said, he looks very very scared that he will not keep his job thus stumbles.

    I just don’t understand how Coloccini has committed himself to staying after having that “dinner” with Mike Ashley.

    Coloccini hates the way Newcastle United play and has even criticised Pardew in the media, why would he want to stay when he could force himself out back to his country?

    Sounds very dodgy to me, and surely spending all that money will be a risk under Pardew, whereas spending under a good european manager will be better and not spend as much as we could keep likes of Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Abeid (said to be getting sold because pardew does not want him back).

  • 158 Transfer Sage // May 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM


    lukaku is out of our league i feel, but worth a gamble, pay the 20 mil as he is only 21 so even 4 good years then cash in when in his prime for double your cash.

    Benteke has had a poor season, villa is up for sale, so learner might fancy cashing in. Worth a shout, a good striker costs your 10-15mil anyway.

  • 159 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    Good evening, Pardew said that if we don’t recruit it’s going to be difficult next season before a ball is kicked, if Ashley doesn’t spend Pardew knows he’s getting the flack.

  • 160 Big Pappa Cissé // May 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    Yeah I would take Fer all day . Maybe Redmond from Norwich as well as he has potential and we are in desperate need of wide men .

  • 161 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 10:26 PM


    Not all as big as Newcastle perhaps…but do you need to be reminded that Blackburn won the PL, both Boro and Pompey won cups and Leeds are a big club who have challenged for the PL too? I’d say those clubs’ fans have had it bad recently.

    If a Newcastle fan is being reasonable by only being happy if we’re in the top 6 (as some have said), can City, Man Utd, Chelski, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Leeds, Villa and maybe even Blackburn fans feel the same? Should Wolves fans point at their high attendances and yet little time in the PL? Sheffield Wednesday?

    Only 20 clubs in the PL and we’re in the top 10. We want more of course but that’s still good and something to be proud of.

  • 162 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    You know what else is amazingly funny and makes us look like a joke is the official nufc website showcasing Remy as our own player on there worldcup special apart of the team.

    Last time I checked, he was only on LOAN here from QPR and with the stupid fake rumour of Kinnear getting a “buy-out clause” in it was nonsense.

    Also I heard someone think Newcastle is part of Scotland, some Villa fan… stupid people out there..

  • 163 p // May 13, 2014 at 10:30 PM

    I see Grenier made the French squad, that is him out of our league now

  • 164 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    Jail for Ashley

    Hold on mate, ill post the transcript to the interview where he rushed out.

    “Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder

    Also asked him if he was “grateful” to Mike Ashley for sticking with him, walked out room! #nufc #lfc”

    Mate was that TS interview today, is there a link to it at all so I could re-listen to it?

  • 165 Jail for Ashley // May 13, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    You’re missing the whole point mate, if we finished tenth after strengthening the squad and playing some decent football and a bit of honesty from the ownership after at least looking like we were trying to compete a vast majority would be content.

  • 166 BandB // May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    The next entertainment on offer at SJP comes in the form of the two bands taking the stage in support of the Kings of Leon.
    One is called White Lies and the other is called The Horrors.

  • 167 SuperShearer // May 13, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    TS – You could be right about Benteke but isn’t he out for 6 months or something? Will make it hard to sign while crocked. Lukaku I suspect wouldn’t come to us as they’ll be Champions League teams interested in him. Would love to be proved wrong.

  • 168 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    TDS really though , i dont care what those clubs do or what happens to them , i have never srt my sights on being as big or small as those clubs you have stated , being ambitious is not about pitting your wits against championship sides. If you had mentioned man u – or chelsea or man city i would maybe have agreed with you . But being thankful we are not wolves , portsmouth , blackburn , dosnt fill me full of pride

  • 169 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    “Mike Ashley has been reported to replace current manager Alan Pardew at Newcastle with Everton’s manager Roberto Martínez and is willing to give him £60 million + sales off other player”

    WHAT! if the papers can spread sh!t so can I 😉

  • 170 p // May 13, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    @165, aye, I thought that was obvious to people; no one is upset about league position it is the mismanagement of the club…

    Pardew headbutting, the whole JFK thing, Wonga, renaming St James, not replacing key players that are sold.

    I think most are okay with not having a Man City type situation but most at least want something like a Southampton situation – on the most part quite well run.

  • 171 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 10:40 PM

    B and B —Is Ashley on vocals and pardew on bass???

  • 172 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM


    Eh? How am I missing that point? What post are you referring to from me?

    I get why fans are unhappy, I just think it’s silly that fans are criticising Ashley for even slight problems with the club. 1 poor summer window, 1 terrible winter window, terrible form since Jan, mostly drab football, no decent communication with the fans…all true but doesn’t add up to a disaster.

  • 173 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM

    3rd time lucky in MA case – no transfers – Pardew still in charge – same excuses – same very very very very poor style.

  • 174 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    Also, realistically, even if we recruited another striker after Luuk, we would be failing to create chances or even if we tried to get another Cabaye.

    We lose 5 in 7 before Cabaye left, so this was a long problem before he even left.

    I also do not like the way Cisse gets insulted, sworn out and digusting comments about him as well after the way he led us to 5th.

    The same fans which cheered him on are turning against him because he cannot play in a setup where Pardew wants him to be a target man and not a poacher and play him out in wing while Shola gets to start in middle.

    Cisse would do brilliantly once again once he gets coached under a good manager and coaching staff.

    The shots that came out of that lad was never a fluke or luck, how can you just shoot and just prey for luck that it goes in??

    Even the wonderful goal against Chelsea, his debute goal against Villa, the goal against Swansea the half volley same game against Chelsea as well.

    This player is not a 1 season flop, he has simply been forced to be a different player then he is just like Ben Arfa, Santon, Mbiwa, Marveaux, and benching our better players like Haidara because his favourites..

    I cannot watch another awful season if he is elected to stay, as I said I will offcially wipe out black & white blood out from my body and my heart untill that cockney is gone,

  • 175 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    stuart no9

    aye mate lol and Lee and the rest are backup singers 🙂

  • 176 BandB // May 13, 2014 at 10:42 PM


    I don’t back horses.
    But if I did, and my horse finished 10th, I wouldn’t mind if it had been properly ridden out to the line.
    I’d happily accept it wasn’t the best horse in the field by a long chalk. I’d just like to think I was on a trier.
    I don’t think we are on a trier.

  • 177 The next Mike Williamson // May 13, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Pardew will try to turn Grenier and Cabella into Lee Cattermole and when he inevitably fails he’ll scapegoat them for not tracking back and put Ryan Taylor in their place.

  • 178 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 10:44 PM


    Well if you’re only going to happy when we’re finishing above the likes of Man Utd, City or Chelski then you’re going to be an unhappy fan. That’s like an overweight 40 year old only being happy when he beds a 21 year old model. It’s only going to happen when their standards drop or he gets seriously wealthy…

  • 179 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 10:46 PM


    but that’s the problem though mate ” POACHERS” we need strikers like Remy & Gouffran ” ADVANCE FORWARDS” who can run out wide, come deep & cross

  • 180 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    So we get £60M – 6 OR 7 players leave, that 60M has to replace them, that just brings the squad back even – then we have to strengthen? with £60m ? hahaha pardew must have some quality lined up.
    Cant wait for the start of next season and the anti ashley and pardew chants

  • 181 Big Pappa Cissé // May 13, 2014 at 10:49 PM


    Would be unreal and a Bony, Benteke type striker up front would score for fun with that creativity behind them .

  • 182 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM

    For those interested reading about the young striker target.

    Black and White with an army lol

    We need more than 1 type of striker, each opponent will play for there strengths and weaknesses.

    So one game it could be Remy’s or other game could be cisse (Advanced forward, poacher). Or sometimes it could be both. We could be looking for target men as well, so we must never be limited but the fact is, Cisse needs to be coached properly and motivated again under the right man.

  • 183 stan anderson // May 13, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    Love Shola now after reading some of the comments on here.
    I was wrong all the time,i hope we give him a new contract and double his wages.
    We need his pressence around the club dont we,

  • 184 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    stuart no9

    £60 million could go a long way if done right, Ince & Colback are free and I think Hunt is too.

    so there’s 3 players already that improve the squad and probably won’t cost much in wages ( well maybe Hunt )

    but I think we both know what will happen, Bent 25 million, Shola new contract 100k a week and a signing on fee for 10 million and also C.Cole 25 million

  • 185 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM


    You mean to come out with loud and overly ambitious targets to placate the fans knowing you were likely to fail? Like Leeds, Pompey, Spurs and QPR? They’ve all suffered consequences in terms of of finances, relegation and managerial upheaval.

    Or should we build sensible like Everton did and Spurs did before this season?

  • 186 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM


    defo mate, one of each is what we need but having a Target man is going to leave Pardew with only 1 option hoofball

  • 187 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 10:59 PM


    Just got back from a walk with the dog on the Roman wall, amazing Full moon .

    Yes I did mention Shola’s wage ..Perhaps I was thinking it seems a lot of money to pay for a striker (striker that Find’s it really difficult to compete now at this level ..) as for his past endeavours and his hard work and devotion I totally respect that ..and all I am trying to convey is the bigger picture for the club and not to disrespect Shola…Good luck to Shola and wherever he land’s next I hope he’s a sensation..and I hope he scores 5 hatricks for Nigeria in the world cup . . He’s a lovely bloke. cant blame Shola for the level he’s at, and I will praise him for all his effort’s ..Its time to move on though.

  • 188 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Its being said massive amount of fans cancelling and have already cancelled season tickets.

    If the statement gets released in favour for Pardew, I see the end for this guy, fans will simply make tears come to his eye (I HOPE!).

    More fans will cancel there season tickets and only way I see it, that journalist crap that came from Luke Edwards? from Telegraph I think was paid wonga to make fans believe that big money would be spent, but then again I could be wrong, but most likely I see it being like this.

    The nufc press told him to publish a big enough transfer budget that does not sound too impossible given we have not spent for 2 windows and also selling Cabaye with double TV money.

    They wanted to see the response of fans if there was any change in people renewing or buying new season tickets from yesterday till today.

    Ill give it till 11:45pm a latest today if we are to expect something at all as when Joe Kinnear’s statement was out, it was as last as 11pm.

  • 189 Black and White with an army lol // May 13, 2014 at 11:00 PM

    knowing Pardew he will use both Campbell & Armstrong as target man next season.

    I mean C’mon have you’s seen our defensive set piece set up? he’s got Anita standing with the wall in front of the kicker!

    what the f@ck is all that about

  • 190 BandB // May 13, 2014 at 11:00 PM


    Well, I think that is an interesting attempt at reflecting the gist of what I have just said.
    I am sure nearly everyone will see how very reasonable, fair, and accurate a synopsis that was.
    I think you should go and have a little lie down.

  • 191 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    Black and White with an army lol

    True mate, I dont see target men in modern football anymore, I just see the likes of Diego Costa, Lukaku, Benteke and players that have similar builds. They are all around players that have technique and ability in every field and can only improve, we need a player like that, not Shola or even Gomis.

  • 192 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    TDS — No where did i mention that i want to finish above man u manc chelsea , with Ashley that will never happen , dont you know? we cant compete , however, being ambitious enough to TRY and get near them , now thats a different proposition , at least its better than seeing if you can score more goals than portsmouth blackburn , wolves , every saturday , if thats the best we can aspire too . mental health issues would kick in , suicidel tendancies to shoot off the scale , but on good days , abit of good old fashioned self harm to pirk you up a little

  • 193 jimmysmith // May 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    All clubs have problems and weaknesses, but Newcastle have largely always had greater faults and weaknesses than a club of their stature ought to. Now would seem a prime example, seemingly due to poor decision making and lack of investment in the side. Surely Ashley is largely to blame, if it is at all possible to largely blame a single person. Nothing much goes down at Newcastle without him wanting it that way. I think that’s a fair comment and things have been pretty ordinary at Newcastle for the seven years he’s been here, considering the size of the club. Not a good record.

  • 194 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    stuart no9

    Mate don’t bother wasting your time replying to him, he only sprouts off as much nonsense and even more than Alan Pardew trying to defend the regime and manager.

    You are only feeding him more so he can respond back with his pro propaganda.

  • 195 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 11:08 PM

    Online Guy

    Good stuff. I don’t know Shola’s wage and not bothered to be honest. Footballer’s salaries are on a different planet anyway…

    Wonder if Arma, Sammy or Campbell will be the next Shola…

  • 196 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 11:11 PM


    Well what do you mean by a trier then? Transfers have been poor but what target next season would make you happy?

  • 197 Brutooon // May 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    Just to remind that Shola Ameobi is NOT LOYAL. He is Sh*T and thats the reason NO OTHER CLUB want him.

    Shola Ameobi is Sh*t that he is a good BAD EXAMPLE for young strikers. Any coach in the world would say “Please don’t be a Shola”

    Shola Ameobi retired = best signing in 14 seasons = NUFC will win something soon

  • 198 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 11:16 PM

    black and white with an army lol . so that gets our squad even , as in number of players , but not enough clout to make us any better next season .

  • 199 ToonDarnSarf // May 13, 2014 at 11:17 PM


    Please just spend a few minutes looking at the last 10 years of Everton and Spurs compared to us. Consider this includes 3 years before Ashley took over. Look at their progress, their league finishes, their managerial changes and their transfers. That will show you how it needs to be done and you’ll see how it takes quite some time.

  • 200 Toon Tang // May 13, 2014 at 11:22 PM

    Sammy looked lively when he came on again. Gave them scouse defenders nightmares and drew a foul or two on the edge. Just a shame we haven’t any cabaye/raylor dead ball specialists to finish eh.

    If sammy can stay fit next season and get a regular outing he will be a very good player for us, mark my words.

  • 201 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    turkish , yeah your right we all know that , but its the sheer desperation in his answers that make me chuckle . its like a drug , i need to know how desperate he will go before the inevitable happens , and he succumbs to the realistic bloggers on this site and admits – he is wrong .

  • 202 BandB // May 13, 2014 at 11:25 PM


    Turkish just made a point there that I have raised with you myself before.
    You are like one of those not-so reflective political minnows who gets offered a chance to bat for the party on Question Time.
    You never answer a question. Every discussion is a chance to launch into a loud on-message diatribe.
    You must have seen how counter-productive and dumb it looks when they do that?
    Which is why I am always happy to entertain you.
    I don’t personally think you are a WUM. I think you are sincere.
    But your post at 185 just kind of sums you up.

  • 203 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 11:29 PM

    Lilo ,

    when I give my opinion on Shola it usually tainted with the thought that he does not give his all every game fact he has seemed lackadaisical and disinterested ..despite doing the right thing’s tactically, there does not seem to be any urgency his play ..other day’s he’s ok ..fits and start’s ..suppose there’s a few I could mention ..same, and depending on who we are up against will dictate the play..and how he handles it.

    Cannot question his loyalty ..and playing when unfit for the cause ..but there’s something wrong when that happen’s.

    I’m just trying to paint the bigger picture and question the thinking of the club when we have to rely on an ageing injury ravaged unfit striker, well past his best, and we don’t go out and sign a top pair of striker’s, and had the last 2 transfer windows to do it and the money in place.

    One of the reasons Shola get’s questioned and ridiculed by some, is because supporters think ,We are relying on Shola this the level the clubs at ?..So Shola gets a lot of unwarranted attention because the fans think, this the pinnacle of the clubs ambition.? Shola !. I think that’s the answer ..

    Respect to Shola for all his efforts

  • 204 ganiyu // May 13, 2014 at 11:31 PM

    the arrogant gignac who claimed newcastle was too small didn’t make the reserve team

  • 205 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:32 PM


    I am kinda confused who that post is aimed at, I saw post 185 getting mentioned its TDS, I checked 195 as well instead it was a typo and again its TDS.

    I don’t know if I am trying to confuse myself but could you confirm who its aimed at 😀 ?

  • 206 Toon Tang // May 13, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    Its an often overlooked tactic by some teams, the ‘foul draw’. All you need is a player willing to try a few darts in to the box. The player in question doesn’t even need to be that competent with the ball at his feet, just run at them and see what happens. Probably 50/50 you will draw a foul on the edge or even in the box, and I dont mean diving either.

    Look how many pens and free’s liverpool scored this season. Merciless amounts and they were mainly from sterling flying into the box giving nightmares.

    Townsend started doing it well before his injury. Making runs and drawing fouls is benny’s forte which is why we should try and keep hold of him.

  • 207 Toon Tang // May 13, 2014 at 11:35 PM

    I suppose Pards didnt read benny’s manual fully when he arrived. There probably alternate settings or a reset that you can only get at with a paperclip or sharp pencil.

  • 208 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:35 PM


    Who the fck is Gignac? He was sure as lucky to be offered to us and even then he thought we were interested in him, although we were before.

    No player ever, ever is bigger then the club.

    He is not even making reserves, he will rot without ever getting selected for his national team again.

    He should be proud to be linked with Newcastle United.

    Nowadays, people making a living out from doing what they love and have fun while doing so.

    Being linked with a big club should be a big honour but there ego’s get to them most of the time, and I am talking about Pardew here as well.

  • 209 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    turkish @188 — where did you read that about the fans not renewing their tickets ? i did hear last week that about 14000 were still not renewed , maybe that was a rumour , dont know

  • 210 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    Krul n provisional dutch squad..we are after Zaha and Rodwell ..late reports .

  • 211 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    stuart no9

    Just continued cancellation by many fans I know and every single one I have spoken to that had a season ticket has cancelled or is cancelling by the end of this week.

    The numbers are sure to be over 17k+ now and will be more when they feel its appropriate to carry on with Pardew at the seat of the role.

    Very big risk, and all of these must have been/or still being spoken to right now in the so called private meeting with Mike Ashley and Pardew.

  • 212 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:48 PM

    Rodwell – Overrated overpaid earns 70k+ at manc no way hes giving that up.

    Zaha was brought for £15m? why would he get sold us to under 10 at least? Man United will keep him.

  • 213 stuart no9 // May 13, 2014 at 11:50 PM


    Please just spend a few minutes looking at the last 10 years of Everton and Spurs compared to us. Consider this includes 3 years before Ashley took over. Look at their progress, their league finishes, their managerial changes and their transfers. That will show you how it needs to be done and you’ll see how it takes quite some time.———- OR why dosnt the 24th richest man in england with a 3.7 billion pound fortune , fast track 10 years and stick a few quid in of his hard earned cash and a tad of his kids inherirence money , which lets be fair , they wont miss the odd 10M or so , and give us a devcent team now . In 10 years i probably wont be here, ashley will have sold the club, the mackems will be top of the league and and a pint of beer will be a tenner , just so we can do it the everton and spurs way – what they won ? nowt. so why copy them , great idea that , something to think about that one. get the paracetamol out, i feel one coming on .

  • 214 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 11:51 PM

  • 215 jimmysmith // May 13, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    I think Newcastle are quite right to be apprehensive about the Europa league though. Succeeding in that competition and maintaining your place in the league would I think put you in a potentially dangerous position financially. It’s like one dark deep ominous final pit for clubs the size of Newcastle to negotiate safely before they can look forward with optimism. Getting beyond it I suspect would be hugely challenging for us. I agree we could do without it, if top 4 were the ultimate goal.

  • 216 headtheball // May 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    Encyclopedia for sale.
    No longer required as we have Tedious and Ian.

  • 217 TurkishFan101 // May 13, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    Ok looks like no statement or announcement today from the club.

    We have again learned not to trust any journalists as many have specifically said that a statement would be out by today the latest.

    I am in hope right now thinking that for a big major re haul to happen that Mike Ashley promised especially after joining the board room to get more involved with the fans is he will need to show that he wants to have that connection with us fans again by showing the ambition its deserved with still strict financial budget but the initial £20m a season promised along with sale of cabaye which is another £20m and another £30-50m from the tv money.

    Looking at least £50m being spent and max around even £100m.

    So, we will see.

    Kevin Keegan even said that Mike Ashley is a good bloke, just the people that he employed has toyed around with him making it hell and in re-turn it has affected the relationship between fans and owner.

    Good night lads!

  • 218 Online Guy // May 13, 2014 at 11:57 PM


    Several of my family are not going back next season, mind that’s the one’s who sit around the ground… ..its not the defeats its the lie’s from Pardew and the piss taking by Ashley …I’m working on wor kid who has a private box ..I can sit in there with a few other family and freind’s but I would rather jamb me C*o* in the car door ..£250 k box. 5 courses and Bobby Moncur popping in to have a bit of a chinwag ,,no thanks.

  • 219 TurkishFan101 // May 14, 2014 at 12:02 AM

    Online Guy

    Well mate I follow with what you say and you are correct I am not denying or disagreeing.

    I am seeing, penultimately, the end of season review and statement will review the intent of the club and why indeed Mike Ashley joined the boardroom in the first place.

    It just does not make sense unless he actually wants the major rehaul he promised us mate.

    As I said, here is hoping.


    P.S. : My heart will be hurting and be in more pain by the day untill he is sacked, and that is the truth as recently I am getting rather strange pains. It could be all from the stress from exams coming up in university but especially coupled from the fact of the fatigue effect this club has on my health condition this young.

  • 220 stuart no9 // May 14, 2014 at 12:03 AM

    turkish —- with no statement coming from the club regarding pardew , is that a deliberate attempt to calculate the damage that may be done if pardew stays., do you think??

  • 221 Lost Plot // May 14, 2014 at 12:04 AM


    Your all falling into the Bords ethos planned overhaul of the club.

    Change is always a way of life BUT you got to be a step ahead of the gameplan to make the rights moves.

    Most of us heading to the park every home game and the odd week away, only to find our passion ain’t the modern way (or is it?)

    Ashley was face to face with the envy of the place when those wanted is heed.
    BUT what did he say?
    2 thousand each and St James’s is your place!
    In one hours time you will think its safe.

    Who was MA’s audience that day when still a mint team was being dug a grave?

    Mike knows what we wants and does strive passion and and it’s people that get him there with trust and compassion.

    Anyway the bottom line is he wants to be selling champagne in the stands and not tea (chilli crayfish n garlic snails.

    Don’t be pushed out by the propaganda politics, and back the team not the regime.
    They ONLY want the BEST supporters to make the players dream (come true)

    Love the Toon whoever you are !

  • 222 Online Guy // May 14, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    Turkish, take it easy mate.

  • 223 stuart no9 // May 14, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    turkish——P.S. : My heart will be hurting and be in more pain by the day untill he is sacked, and that is the truth as recently I am getting rather strange pains. It could be all from the stress from exams coming up in university but especially coupled from the fact of the fatigue effect this club has on my health condition this young.
    ———– believe me i am sharing your pain , but mine is in the head trying to fathom out what TDS is going on about.

  • 224 TurkishFan101 // May 14, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    stuart no9

    They clearly must be thinking long and hard about the outcome.

    I need to get off now to wake up rather early for lecture and revision, good night mate!

    Online Guy

    Thanks mate, good night to you!

  • 225 Motown Mo // May 14, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    when the newsasle players play is there any rules on what size of the boots are ? are they look large sizes ? only

  • 226 Laurent Robert 32 // May 14, 2014 at 12:44 AM

    Transfers and hype from the deviant ones are all the same propaganda which has happened before. Don’t be sucked in.

    Even if we do get a couple of signings in, it doesn’t make it all better. We are two transfer windows behind in getting the players in.

    Giving Pardew more players is like carving an ice sculpture in the the Florida sun. The environment (Pardew’s presence) is wrong, so the players’ potential with blended team are wasted.

    He already had 5 the other January and we have since battled relegation and broke all kinds of poor records.

    Ashley out, Pardew out.

  • 227 manxpie // May 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM

    laurent he had 5 players 18 months ago! yes thats 1 and a half years!

    and is that acceptable?
    for a football club let alone a multi million pound prem club with 52000 capacity

    you and others seem to forget how atrocious that is!

    i can’t remember the stat but it was something like we’re the only league club to have done so in not buying a player in that time!

    to discount that fact for a team playing in the prem and at the same time selling there best players is beyond me tbh and you think another manager let alone a top 1 would work under that??

    seriously aim ya hate at the person who really deserves it!

  • 228 manxpie // May 14, 2014 at 1:28 AM

    and on ameobi he’s been here for 14 years and never really complained about being on the bench

    well the ammount of millions this club has spent on strikers in that time while he’s been sitting on that bench must be a shocking statistic, and tbh i’d have prefered to see him playing instead of some of the crap we’ve seen and spent millions on

    great servant to this club and obviously a great person and good in the dressing room so the hatred of him on here (and many others) is shockin

    i always laugh when i here people say “why not play” armstrong or cambell or vuckic or sammi the list goes on
    and instantly its pure hate for them after a game or 2

    just look already at wats happened to dummet and sammi this year on here absolute hatred in some cases!

    if you wan’t to see youngsters get a game at least give them a chance and a chance isn’t a couple of games btw

    you’ll give a new foreign signing in some cases more than a season to say he’s shite but on here its only a few games for our younger inexperienced players

  • 229 lesh // May 14, 2014 at 1:56 AM

    Sorry some of you guys, but why should the club issue a statement to say nothing’s changed if Pardew’s still manager?

    Issue a statement if there is a change to his status yes, but otherwise there’s nowt to say…. is there?

  • 230 catchy in norway // May 14, 2014 at 1:57 AM


    I really have no clue how you think, but you are on another planet as far as im concerned

    5 players in 18 month?
    I count 12 players in the last 2 seasons
    kevin mbabu 880k
    sissoko 2,2
    haidara 2,2
    goufrann 1,7
    MYM 7
    debuchy 5,5
    anita 5,5
    good 500k
    gael bigg 1,1
    remy Loan
    LDJ loan
    nobody is asking us to challenge for the title,

    what people are asking for is for him to be more competitive with the players he has got at his disposal,

    your always on here sticking up for the guy as if he is being hard done to, well he is not , not by a long way, he has taken fans favourit players and turned them into defensive Zombies, Jonas and gouffran have both backwards very fast under him,

    not one kid with talent has broken through,

    the players like HBA and Marv, have both been dropped because they wont become zombies,,,

    honestly, defending this man makes me wonder why you like football, I love it because players like HBA, they can be quiet for 89 mins, and one bit of magic wins the game, I want to see players running at other players using skill to try and beat them,

    fans like you are why clubs like ours go backwards and don’t move forward,

    and as for you saying it all went wrong when we sold cabaye, that’s showing no respect for the other 10 players around him, and to be honest, he was a good player, but he was not a one man team, infact he was part of a team that could not win a game in 22 last season, and add that to the fact he wanted out, he was not sold against his will, if we did not sell him, he WOULD have gone on strike AGAIN,

    wind your neck in BOY

  • 231 manxpie // May 14, 2014 at 2:36 AM

    catchy 1st of all please please show me where i ever said!
    it went wrong after cabeye!!!

    and then understand the difference between bought and loaned

    and then understand that in 2 windows we loaned 2 players!!!

    2 players!!

    and thats after finishing 5th and actually buying 1 player to deal with europe aswell

    the way i see it is, its you that is the problem simply because you have just made that very sorry excuse for ashley

    so out of that list who has done well?

    and you forget in that same 2 years we have sold ba cabeye perch guthrie simpson loaned guti and many youngsters!

    so where’s the difference catchy?

    where’s the upgrades?
    where’s the building catchy?
    go on tell us how we’ve got this great squad at minus £45 mill???(don’t know if that counts the cabeye money tbh????)

    and then tell us all this great manager thats gonna come in as obviously you must know since you were so obviously right when pardew got us to finish 5th but as long as its not ole gunner who is it catchy?

    and btw how has goof gone backwards?

    he’s come from a shitter league and team and done very well

    so has cabeye did he turn him to shit?

    same as sisko and debuchy

    plus hiadara is looking good

    but i suppose they actually work hard but that can’t have anything to do with it can it!!!!

  • 232 manxpie // May 14, 2014 at 2:39 AM

    oh yeah cathy i forgot wind ya neck in haha

  • 233 jimmysmith // May 14, 2014 at 2:58 AM

    If Newcastle spent a little more cash consistently on a little more depth and quality then Pardew would odds on get us challenging top 6-7. He had us there on merit first half of the season. Got us to fifth and took us deep into the final stages of the Europa League. He is capable. If we can consolidate as a top 6-7 club, then a new manager and coaching set up might well be needed to push us on to greater things. But right now, squad strengthening rather than replacing the manager is of far greater urgency in my view.

    Although I’d say Ashley’s idea of sustainable is chipping away at the debt as more money comes in and continued free advertising for Sports Direct, which surely will continue to limit our progress significantly.

    Things may begin to look up, but glory seems quite remote as far as I can tell.

  • 234 catchy in norway // May 14, 2014 at 4:04 AM

    are everton complaining about there 3 loan players?,
    I don’t think so, what the club did was what was best for there club at that time,

    i get that Ashley has failed, but his failures are not linked to how pardew works with what he has,

    pardew has lost the plot, gone off the range, is missing in his own head, and that’s where the whole problem lies,
    once his head and mouth are on the same page, he may take the club forward, but for me he believed all the hype about him being the next generation of English managers,

    his mouth tells you , my teams play on the front foot, his teams play with flare and tenacity, he loves bringing kids through
    in reality, he plays ultra defensive, 4 defenders, and 3 DMC that leaves 3 player to attack,

    we are 20th for shots outside the box, 54% the worst
    we are 20th for shots inside the box 40% the worst
    please don’t think that this is a one off, its not, this is football under pardew, wonder goals are us

    season 11/12( we finished 5th)
    48% shots outside the box 5th worst
    44% shots inside the box 3rd worst

    season 12/13 (we finished 16th)
    50% shots outside the box 3rd worst
    46% shots inside the box 6th worst

    compare this seasons stat with southamton and evertons

    44% outside the box 8th best
    50 inside the box 7th best

    43% outside the box 5th best
    51% inside the box 5th best

    very strange how these 2 teams finished where they did, matches there stats

    you can think what you like, or believe what you like, but the fact is, pardew is not good enough, these are facts of the way pardew plays his football,

    where we finish in any season depends on how well we defend not how well we attack, his style is keep it tight and nick a goal, that’s why we go so long not winning games under him, he has no plan B

    these stats have nothing todo with how Ashley trains the team,

    Ashley may have asked him to drop out of the cups, which in my eyes makes pardews even worst than the table suggests, he had one thing to concentrate on,

    wind your necks in

    all stats come from

  • 235 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 14, 2014 at 6:18 AM

    I would say we have two different problems:

    a) Ashley, and how he runs the club

    b) Pardew, and how he runs the football side of the club

    Neither interfere in each others work and the only way Ashley can be linked to the football side of it is because he won’t sack Pardew (and that he hire crap personal in the first place)

  • 236 JAMSHA // May 14, 2014 at 6:32 AM

    pardew OUT!

  • 237 tequilamag // May 14, 2014 at 6:36 AM

    Really, Mash does not interfere in Pardews work. Well he may not tell him who to play and what tactics to use but he clearly interferes with how Pardew does his job, Selling his best player without buying a replacement without buying a replacement has to have an effect.
    Absolving Mash from ant blame for teams performance does not wash.

  • 238 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 14, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    Tequila…we are not the first club in history to sell top players whether we want to our not. Neither are we the first club to not bring in a replacement or if so one who is not as good. It is it not optimal but it is part of the job.

    There can be different reasons for this. The truth is we just don’t know. But for me Cabaye does not define our season.

    You can tell yourself what you need to mate.

  • 239 tequilamag // May 14, 2014 at 7:21 AM

    I fully accept Pards has to deal with variables beyond his control, I also accept he could have done more with the cards he was dealt with. That does not alter the fact that Mash has no effect on team performance when clearly as the man has a huge effect.

  • 240 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 14, 2014 at 7:28 AM

    There will always be an indirect effect, but that is because it’s a synergy.

    …even players personal life effects Pardew’s job. The economy effects it and so on, but this goes for any other club. It’s part of the job description.

  • 241 tequilamag // May 14, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    Jesper I would respectfully say the Mash effect is a bigger variable than the weather or any other variable you mention. Any business has to invest to grow. in the case of football the the most important investment is in it`s playing staff. This is something everyone accepts has been lacking throughout the tenure of Mash.

  • 242 Lilongwe Geordie // May 14, 2014 at 7:38 AM

    Fun Shola fact (It is a holiday here today, so I have nothing better to do); In the 2 seasons following promotion Shola Ameobi scored and assisted more Premier League goals than Luka Modric before Modric joined Real Madrid.

  • 243 Ian Toon // May 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM

    Well normality has returned to the blog. By that I mean it has been a good experience reading through this morning. Well informed posters and balanced responses providing fresh perspectives on NUFC. We all surely value comment from people who know more and understand better. To live and learn. The younger fan benefitting from the historical knowledge of our older fans. In essence achieving the aim of Ed Harrison who continues to enrich the lives of toon fans around the world.

    I recall in my early days of posting on here Ibizatoon saying that there is a place for everyone on here and he was spot on. Even if you do sometimes have to fast forward. Balanced comment of our individual personal expertise in the real world can be shared in a tolerant manner. For me, up to a point I welcome accountancy knowledge and the balance provided by ,for example Mr Tuff, who’s reference to what can and cannot be relied upon in the auditing function is a good learning experience. Not all of us have an in depth knowledge of Enron and financial malpractice. Football before the politics is a must for me but that is a personal opinion.

    For many, It can be a chore ploughing through to seperate the wheat from the chaff but you do find insights on the way. However there are few situations in human life that cannot be made more disharmonious by the introduction of the blog bully, which sure enough, his entry into the fray always makes matters that much more rancorous. Again just my personal opinion.
    HWTL .

  • 244 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 14, 2014 at 7:42 AM

    tequila…that’s alright! you can say that respectfully mate!

  • 245 Ian Toon // May 14, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    Tequila- Welcome back. I agree with your comments on the balance of blame Ashley:Pardew. Communication or the lack of it has put an enormous burden onto Pardew. He simply isn’t a good communicator and can’t think on his feet before opening his mouth. I am told that KK used to practice what he was going to say to the fans in front of a mirror. There also wasn’t 24 hour news coverage.

  • 246 tequilamag // May 14, 2014 at 7:56 AM

    Good morning Ian, no matter how firmly you hold a belief you should always be open to having that belief challenged . That is how we learn. As for poor Pardew, I have been a strong defender but feel the time has come for a fresh face and new ideas. He can get the team playing well but there is always the feeling that a bad run is just round the corner. I do have a lot of symapthy for him though as he is used to be the public face of Newcastle for issues beyond his control. Newcastle are a classic case of an organisation with no clear idea of getting it`s message across, or perhaps the message is so awful they don`t really want us to know what it is.

  • 247 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 7:58 AM

    Why do people keep expecting a statement from the club regarding the puppet?

    Just for the record, the statement due out is from the fan’s forum, it might contain something about the puppet but I highly doubt it as all questions are vetted first by a club official, and not once have the club come out and said “prepare for a statement in due course”

    These are stories from the press who know about as much as we do, yet the same people then turn around and say they are “shocked” anyone believes the rumours and stories regarding NUFC!

    Truly is laughable

  • 248 Jail for Ashley // May 14, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    In all fairness every other player with the initials CF would have achieved the same

  • 249 Jail for Ashley // May 14, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    The nearest we’ll get to a statement is when some jorno asks AP will he be here next season, after a fans meeting last August I asked Lee Marshall who would be the club spokesperson now that we wouldn’t be getting rare statements from DL, he told me Charnley would be speaking regularly to the media, I might have missed one but as far as I know he’s released one carefully worded statement since then.

  • 250 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 8:15 AM


    Funnily enough they did ask him that and he walked out of the room lol

  • 251 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    Twice in two days the club has intervened on stories regarding us, what’s going on? Are they trying to hide something? Or is it just coincidence? Who knows!

  • 252 Jail for Ashley // May 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM

    Have you got a link to the interview I only got a snippet last night on Total Sport.

  • 253 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 8:22 AM

    He walked out after the post match press conference at anfield mate, the talksport interview I’ve no idea apart from a link regarding what pardspew said

  • 254 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 8:23 AM


  • 255 tequilamag // May 14, 2014 at 8:25 AM

    AC did he not ignore the question because it was from Lee Ryder ? As far as I am aware that is business as usual as far as talking to the Chron.

  • 256 stan anderson // May 14, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    TDS. seems to be satisfied that we cant compete with the rich clubs and expects nothing other than top 10 finish.
    I can understand where he is coming from as they all have owners willing to buy success.
    Does this mean that we should put up with being 2nd class or even 3rd class club.
    I was born with black and white blood flowing through my veins and all i want is to be proud of my club and be able to hold my head up and say at least we gave it a go did,nt we.
    We may never win a trophy again but i would like to think we tried to compete and win one,or even qualify for a European competition again.
    I feel you can sit there with your abacus and work out how well we are doing financially but dont know a thing about being born with the love the passion ,that runs through our veins.
    Not knocking anyone for supporting NUFC.but unless you have sampled the times when we had crowds of over 60,000 in the old dump of a stadium,the smell of the breweries,the working class fans giving there all in support as it was just about all they had,as a young boy being passed over the heads of fans so that you could sit on the wall around the cinder track.
    This is how we were brought up and all we wanted was to prove we were the best team around.
    We were able to argue with fans of other clubs that this was so and have a beer with them after the match.
    We cant argue with any other fans now as we dont have the ammunition to prove we are the best.
    This is because those running the club dont give a siht about our passion our love of our club.
    We have a Puppet being well paid to coach the team and we are being humbled in virtually every match we played this year.He is a sham and a disgrace to us.
    I wont even mention the Fat Greasey Slug who owns the club.
    Been bad times before but i still supported the team i loved .
    This is the worst time in my opinion,after 55 years.

  • 257 Jail for Ashley // May 14, 2014 at 8:35 AM

    A_C, tequila,
    I don’t know what interview it was from, but on Total sport last nigh he said we’ll strengthen in the summer ‘make no bones about that’, he acknowledged that if we don’t the pressure will be on before a ball is kicked, he said he hoped he’d be in charge next season, he was calling us ‘our City’, he also very carefully worded and changed wording at the last second when asked about how many we’d be bringing in.
    I expect two or three despite outgoings, your Gosling types will be replaced by the loanees out and a couple of loans will come our way. So imo, we’ll get Gomis, a loan ST, creative midfielder and a winger if we can offload Marv AND Obertan.

  • 258 mindshaft // May 14, 2014 at 8:35 AM

    Not sure where people are hearing that 14,000 + season tickets haven’t renewed season tickets – I’ve been told by someone who works in the office who says that renewals are as normal and she def isn’t an Ashley fan, although saying that she’s barely seen him
    Think people on here are more vocal than your average toon fan or maybe we stupidly believe what Ryder makes up

  • 259 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 8:38 AM


    Quite possibly but he answered a question from NCJ media after getting told not to by Wendy Taylor at the same de-brief

  • 260 Average_Contents // May 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM


    That link I posted was about the club apparently contacting total sport to tell them to cut some of what pardspew said as he didn’t want to dig himself a deeper hole, I haven’t heard the interview so can’t really comment on it, like I said just that link regarding what was “not” said lol

  • 261 Jail for Ashley // May 14, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    If my mates ticket is anything to go by he can’t cancel as he needs to give notice before January 31st, hence the Sky breaking news that Mike Ashley had sanctioned four players, people already in to their ten year deals will suffer penalties.

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