England Lose 2-0 To Netherlands Without Newcastle Pair


Netherlands, the reigning European U17 Champions, beat England 2-0 today in Malta in the final group game, which means the Netherlands have a perfect record of 9 points from their three games, with England second with 6 points in Group A.

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Adam Armstrong – rested today – but was a sub in second hald

But England took the opportunity to rest some of their top players – a draw would have seen England win the group – and those rested included Newcastle’s top youngsters, Freddie Woodman and Adam Armstrong.

England do still qualify for the semi-finals through being second in their group, and they now meet Group B winners Portugal on Sunday.

It was a close game against the Netherlands in the first half, but after 45 minutes Calvin Verdonk hit a great shot from 33 yards out which beat England goalkeeper Samuel Howes, who got his first start in the tournament, after Newcastle’s Freddie Woodman had played in the first two games.

England had made seven changes from the side that beat Turkey 4-1 on Monday afternoon, but the Dutch had made only three changes, and that finally helped the Dutch, who were on top in the second half

Adam Armstrong had been rested, but in the second half the Newcastle youngster was brought on as a sub, as England went for goals in the second half.

But England were susceptible to the quick break, and the Netherlands scored their second goal through a header from van der Moot after 68 minutes, after he had only just been introduced as a sub, to give the Netherlands the win and the finish at the top of Group A..

The defeat breaks an 8 game winning streak in the U17 competition for England, who will field their best side against Portugal on Sunday in the semi-finals, and both Adam Armstrong and Freddie Woodman are expected to start that game.

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86 comments so far

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 15, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #1

    GeordieTwo

    How we adapt to the grey strips could be a factor in our performances next season if I’m honest. We could end up in a psychological scenario with certain players, a little bit, because grey can have an affect on the mindset for sure.

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  • Ian Toon

    May 15, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #2

    Mr Tuff- You could argue that you do get what you pay for but not always in the football transfer market. Spurs spent £100 million largely from the Bale sale. They bought what appear to be a number of duffers. Lamela cost £ 30 million. Soldado and Paulinho have failed to impress. Only Eriksen has been a success.

    What we need is a few strong characters in the side to add some stability and two top class strikers which arguably should take up the bulk of our reported kitty.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 15, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #3

    Average

    I don’t share this often stated view that we don’t replace the players we’ve sold.

    We’re no more a selling club than anyone else.

    We sold big AC and replaced him on the field with Cisse and Ba, we sold Ba and replaced him on the field with Remy. We sold Cabs only recently so we’ll see …

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #4

    Nice to see a bit of optimism ……

    Any truth in the 94% season tix renewals?

    If it is we need to stop whining as we have voted – Ash is doing a great job and Pardum even better. Lee Chumley Warner knows everything about football and the youth team is excellent – just look at the young players coming through.

    Makes me proud to be a Geordie

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 15, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #5

    Ian Toon – most people would agree that the Bale money has mainly been wasted. A lot would also agree that 27 million for Fellani -in comparison to 20 million for Cabaye was let’s say very surprising – very nice for Everton though.
    Trouble is the vast majority of decent players are spotted when they are kids and the better they appear the higher the price. To get superb players cheaply is hard -and sometime maybe a massive gamble.

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 15, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #6

    Ian and tuff

    value in the market exists for sure, but still need to pay a decent fee and wage, we can’t quibble over the sake of 100/200k agent fees this year as we can’t afford to miss out on players, we need them in early.

    There are decent frees available in hunt and gomis, even tom ince (not looked around so maybe more)…so if we get a couple of them then we can focus the money on top class forward and creative players,

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  • Readingmag

    May 15, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #7

    Ouch the poison here.FFS get a grip.
    grey kits looks good – 90s
    Are we not Cardiff , Leeds, Sheff, Wed or Utd, Brighton, Brum or them down the unwashed road.. all with great fan bases.

    Really support another team .Never. Telling 94 % of our supporters they are wrong…Really stats says it you that are wrong.

    I agree about so much….but negativity is infectious ….get a grip …

    We are….
    Prem league
    We should have money to spend
    Not going bust
    lets see what happens in the next 90 odd days
    Back the team……

    And back the Toon always…it never worked in 80s ..yes I am old…….

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  • Ian Toon

    May 15, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #8

    Mr Tuff- I guess I am hoping for us to work the oracle just as we did in signing Cabaye and Tiote. The season we finished 5th saw us being active in the market in early June and making bargain buys. I sense that we have an appetite to follow the same practice.

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 15, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #9

    Transfer -I’ve liked the idea of loanees – thought it ws a waste of time/no commitment etc However, with the de Jong “experience” I now think it is not bad – allows you see really what you are getting before forking out a load of money.
    A lot of folk, including myself, assumed de Jong would be quality but he’s a duffer and wil never make it in the PL -even though he’s being playing in a crap team.

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #10

    Blackey from you own example we are selling players and buying cheaper options.

    Its an ever decreasing circle.

    I bet they will trumpet the possible arrival of Colback as Kebabs replacement.Where do you think the 20 million change will end up?

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  • Transfer Sage

    May 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #11

    Tuff

    Same as you on de jong. I think loans are fine, if they gets us an extra player who brings something to the team i am all for it, unless they prevent a talented kid coming through but we don’t seem to have any (or know how to use them) so ok with loans.

    reading

    I a trying to move past the negativity now, purely for the reason i am 100% sure ashley doesn’t want us relegated, as whether a fan of us or not, he wont want to lose all that cash, so think we will get enough to be top ten (if only just) again.

    As for the kit, i think it looks terrible, but away kits rarely look good for us,been very plain the last 10 years

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  • Ian Toon

    May 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #12

    Transfer – Yes the nickel and dimming approach has cost us dearly. I would like to think it was largely down to Lambias and JFK’s inability to negotiate and not appreciating that in the long run little was achieved because we failed to build on what we had achieved and regressed. It repeatedly has been a false economy.
    The transfer team seems to be have been streamlined but time will tell.

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  • Ian Toon

    May 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Comment #13

    Transfer- I also think Ashley will have worked out that if he doesn’t dig deep we will be relegated. The thought of increase TV money will release the purse strings.

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  • croftus5678

    May 15, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #14

    “IF” we only make 5 signings they need to be the sort of quality cabella is ! maybe then we will have the type of quality to beat any team in the prem (when they are all injury free that is as we will still have a problem with squad depth imo.

    i’d <3 colbeck on a free and gomis on a free and rodwell and moses will all add to a better team for us ! ince also and the young english lad from wba so we have plenty of options to get more than 5 players and increase squad depth for under the 60mil and even keep under the wage budget with all those going ! but we all know it'll never happen.

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  • Readingmag

    May 15, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #15

    Transfer sage…

    Would you take top ten now…I would…to be honest I expect below that but not by much. …

    Really, the grey kit ….looks ok \ good…loved the green and yellow stripped. Was that older than 10yrs old…please no..

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #16

    Loans are fine only if the transfer is agreed at the end of the term – otherwise you get stuffed ala Remy.

    Reading – if you are fine with the direction the club is going fine – but I cant pay hard earned cash to a team that has no other ambition than to make money on transfers and stay in the PL,

    The walkout was embarrassing and the season tix take up (if true) even more so – Fatash must be laughing all the way to the bank – divide and conquer

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #17

    Still loved the Bukta tops – wicked sleeves

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  • croftus5678

    May 15, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Comment #18

    @15 readingmag

    imho we should be aiming to overtake manu next season ! top 6 will be too much imo esp with our outgoings and the fact every team will be strengthening so i’m not vain enough to think we will turn into a champs league team with a few signings as we clearly will not !

    as long as we try our hardest for top 6 or even higher depending how signings gel and how the season goes but if we tend to stay back and dont go for wins i’ll be very very disapointed in our lack of ambition.

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #19

    Top 6 – LOL

    We already know we cant compete with the Southamptons, Evertons, Stokes of the World – add to that the big 6 – 11th at best.

    If signings are as good as the last 2 widows relegation

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 15, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #20

    JfK and Llambias getting the flak for negotiation skills, KK spelt it out for us that Wise and Jymamas offered 500K for Hyppia when 1.25M would have sealed the deal, who gives the orders or holds the purse strings.

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #21

    Exactly who is claiming the season ticket figure?

    And you beleve them?

    LMFAO

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 15, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #22

    For the first time in many years I don’t care who we buy!

    …don’t make a different

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #23

    toon22 – its in one of the ‘papers’ – not saying its true.

    If its not will the club take legal action which seems to be the way they do things?

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #24

    You think the same 50k plus people are going to be in the staduim next season to watch another year of utter twaddle?
    Yes some of them are on the mashley “deal” that they all know that can now be canceled in january.They cant take all of them to court.
    The rest are sure to want to see the whole load of b0la7ks unfold,what else would they spend it on since we now are sure we wont want to compete at all next season(its the toons policy)

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #25

    SO you are saying the papers are claiming a near sell out of season tickets next season.

    LOL

    Are you claiming the papers or MA is behind the story?
    Both are 100% trust worthy.

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #26

    I think the days of season ticket waiting lists are well over. Fatash has knocked the stuffing out of the club and yet they still turn up.
    An old saying that you could dress 11 bins in Toon tops and the ground would be full – if only we had 11 decent bins

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #28

    Do i think 50k ish people will want to pay for another season after what they have just seen?
    AP is staying and we all know the player signing stories are utter bo9l0hs.

    Just like the last 7 years.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 15, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #29

    Toon22

    We might be buying cheaper options in terms of transfer fees but they’re not necessarily worse options. Carroll or cisse and ba?

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  • clinath@ed

    May 15, 2014 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #30

    Watching Tevenier for Rotheram is very frustrating. Going forward his pace and touch is excellent, his crossing superb.
    BUT when it comes to defending, he is all over the place.

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #31

    You saying that AC is worse than Cisse?
    Ba was free.

    Cisse cost a third of the carrol money and has to be the biggest flash in the pan in PL history.
    Are you saying a local lad against 2 mercinaries who are currently rubbish or have left?

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  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    May 15, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #32

    What are the chances of uncovering another gem and getting them on the cheap?
    NUFC’s name is poison throughout Europe as we offer ridiculous amount’s, unsettle players and then try ro get them in their last year of contract. It would appear that some owners would rather sell a player to any one but us! Even announcing when we are negotiating for a player – so to encourage other bis

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  • toon22

    May 15, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #33

    LOL @ the Daily Mail a champion of the truth.

    Im sure you read it all the time.
    Why would they sue its a benificial story regardless of the facts.

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  • lesh

    May 15, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #34

    So they lost 2-0. Just as well they didn’t have our senior players on the pitch, it would’ve been six or so!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #35

    Aab has just won the cup here in Denmark. They will be crowned champions on Sunday as well 🙂

    …it’s the club from where I was born even though I am a Brøndby guy!

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  • Ian Toon

    May 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #36

    Pardew was due to meet up with Ashley by tomorrow. First signing was thought to be likely by around 20th May- next Tuesday.

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  • jazzyp

    May 15, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Comment #37

    I personally think a lot of fans are going to hold judgement until the transfer window is closed to see where there plans lie.
    A big summer of incoming transfer activity will im sure boost ticket sales, However another zero transfer policy of pure bullsh@t will not be tolerated by many

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 15, 2014 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #38

    It’s galling how a region famous for men marching to London to protest job losses can’t seem to gather a group to match Lpools effort to get rid of their former tormentors.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 15, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #39

    Blackley,
    If you’re still about, we replaced them six months and a year later respectively and then Ba seven months later with an injured Remy, by this time we have taken two steps back, the fifth place as we all know now was a one off.

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  • nightfa11

    May 15, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #40

    toon22 // May 15, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    “Are you saying a local lad against 2 mercinaries who are currently rubbish or have left?”

    2 mercinaries? fair enough…but carroll is more then just a local lad..hes a local mercinary 😀

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