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Newcastle Board Explains Some Of Their “Logic”

8:54 am, Thursday, May 15th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 29 Comments

The minutes of the Fans Forum meeting of Monday night provides some interesting reading, but there is also some depressing reading in there, and it again shows the lack of ambition of the famous club under Mike Ashley, and Newcastle’s concentration on the Premier League, because of the huge finances dished out to clubs every year – but at the expense of trying to win one of the local Cup competitions – will apparently remain in place.

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Mike Ashley – Newcastle’s unambitious owner

And the Board even have tried to suggest that a cup run would jeopardize Newcastle’s Premier League status – this is some of what is in the minutes from the Board:

“The board reiterated that the Premier League will remain the club’s priority.”

“The board outlined research into Premier League clubs in relation to domestic cup competitions in the last five years, with Swansea City the only club outside the traditional top six to win a domestic cup and not be relegated in the same season (Birmingham and Wigan Athletic were both relegated).”

“Independent research into the cost of relegation over the past ten years showed there is a 50 per cent chance of not gaining promotion back to the top-flight and a 30 per cent chance of being relegated to League One or further.”

We have said before that Mike Ashley bought the wrong club when he bought Newcastle United seven years ago, and to have this attitude towards the club that famously won the FA Cup three times in five years in the 1950s is sad – to say the least.

Maybe he should have bought a club like Oldham Athletic or Scunthorpe United with much less history and glory than Newcastle United.

But the long long statement from Lee Charnley on his appointment as the new Managing Director in April, and the minutes of last Monday’s meeting state the same old things we have been hearing over the last few years.

  • Premier League is the important competition
  • Cup competitions are not important and could even lead to relegation
  • We will only buy players who are of good value and will not overpay for them
  • We cannot compete with the top six clubs in England
  • Newcastle will ban reporters and newspapers who report stuff the Board (make that Mike Ashley) don’t want to hear
  • etc

And if you go on and on about not being able to compete with the top six in England, you’ll get to be right about it, because then you’ll really believe it’s true.

That’s how the mind works to an extent- it likes to justify things.

And to say we cannot compete with the top six is not true,  and only gives some excuses for not finishing in the top six.

It’s either results or reasons when you talk about having success in life – and Newcastle lead with the reasons.

It’s not good.

Comments are always welcome, but please keep them concentrated on football and try to accept and respect those readers who have views that are different to your own.

It would be a really boring world if we all had the same views. :D



Tags: Capital One Cup · FA Cup · Fans · Newcastle News · Premier League



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29 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben3arfa // May 15, 2014 at 8:57 AM

    Mike Ashley – the Kim Jung Un of Tyneside .

    We need a revolution to oust his fat a$$

  • 2 BandB // May 15, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    Isn’t the more credible explanation of the policy on cups the often stated terror of becoming ensnared in European football?

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // May 15, 2014 at 9:06 AM

    Can you believe they are coming up with statistics for relegation to league one to defend their ridiculous statements, when will it finally hit home that we are being taken for a ride and the fat bstard is loving every minute of it, never occured to me why John Anderson is so cagey about what he says on the regime, a stadium ban would screw his life up.

  • 4 Graeme // May 15, 2014 at 9:06 AM

    MA’s only objective with NUFC is as a promotional tool for his SD empire, for which the club receives not a penny.
    He gets SD on every sports network, world wide and that is his goal. The Fact that the Premier League then pay him many £ millions as well, is simply the icing on the cake as far as he is concerned.

  • 5 bobby mango // May 15, 2014 at 9:08 AM

    The board really don’t help themselves. Worst PR team ever. They could’ve given the same info but in a much more acceptable way.

    There’s such ill feeling between us and then that everything is so defensive.

    Obviously the league takes priority but they could’ve glossed it up a bit. Staying a cup run is desirable, providing it doesn’t hinder league progress.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // May 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM

    Graeme,
    But accounts show he isn’t making money, I bet he doesn’t hire third division accountants !

  • 7 JAMSHA // May 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM

    protest every day near SD Shops or jst destroy his outlets

  • 8 jettson1971 // May 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    to all true NUFC fans, please stay away from NUFC and keep your oney in your pocket. DO not bankroll the Bank of Ashley any further.
    I cancelled after 25years a season ticket holder. Its the only way to protest.
    club is rotten, its a business tool for Sports Direct only!! its not a football club any longer.
    STAY AWAY

  • 9 BandB // May 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    JFA,

    John has become very adapt at avoiding questions by posing questions of his own.
    It gives him an lazy tool for beating up callers.
    Call in and ask him whether, for example, he thinks Pardew should be replaced.
    He will not weight up the pros and cons, which he is being paid to do.
    He will sneer back with “who would YOU replace him with?” Which any clot could do.
    His producer should stop him doing this, as it makes for crummy radio.
    But they don’t. He is getting away with murder.

  • 10 Graeme // May 15, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Jail, I assume NUFC accounts show he (as an individual) isnt making money – the same cannot be said for SD not benefitting from having it logos plastered all over SJP, for which the club gets nothing.
    In fact, the club are losing money, compared to previous years, due to this insidious practice

  • 11 Toon-Prodigy // May 15, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Its an absolute disgrace how this club has came out and said we won’t compete.

    All of this new TV money, money from players sold?

    That excuse about relegation and coming back up. Aye we may well be relegated, because YOU do not buy players or take advantage of building the squad each window. We will not be relegated from a cup run, we will be relegated because of the p*ss poor squad you have built over 7 yrs. it can’t cope with injuries.

    There is no excuse for the way this club is being run now. There taking people for absolute idiots.

    Disgraceful.

  • 12 Jail for Ashley // May 15, 2014 at 9:23 AM

    BandB,
    The atmosphere is building up to be nothing short of toxic, it is a lose lose situation for the fans, club and Mashley, who will hurt the most, us for dropping into the lower leagues or Mashers knowing he’ll never get his money back, although I’d hazard a guess he’s had plenty already.

  • 13 Average_Contents // May 15, 2014 at 9:25 AM

    BandB

    You put it more eloquently than me but yes that is precisely what is happening, as if we didn’t need more proof, they have openly admitted it!

    I wonder who will be on later stating that fatty can do what he wants because it’s his!

  • 14 BandB // May 15, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Jail,

    I have never become impatient with what some see as the complacency of some fans.
    With a 10th place finish, never in danger of relegation, there is still a case to be made that the club is doing alright. Some can still see a springboard for big things ahead.
    But we are in the calm before a storm, I think, and chickens will inevitably begin to roost.
    “The centre cannot hold” as WB Yeats said, and serious trouble will come sooner or later.
    If I didn’t fear it so much, I would happily let it take its course. But I fret about it on here instead.

  • 15 jimiley // May 15, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    The club is not fit for purpose. Its purpose is merely to exist. The purpose of a football club is to try to win something. When a club renounces that ambition, it is redundant. Any “fan” who puts money in that man’s pocket is a total moron. Toon fans are so stupid they deserve all they get. I suppose the brain dead will walk along in silence in August to SJP to support the regime as normal. Beggars belief that they will still go and the regime has the front to tell the truth about merely trying to exist. I suppose they know the brain dead will keep coming.

  • 16 terry24 // May 15, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    WITHDRAWING YOUR SUPPORT IS THE ONLY WAY THINGS WILL CHANGE. END

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // May 15, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    BandB,
    I promise I am not going back until there are radical changes.

  • 18 BandB // May 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Jail,

    Read Yeat’s poem. It could have been written for us.

  • 19 The next Mike Williamson // May 15, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    I can’t see us getting a better chairman. We’ll probably get an American one like Randy Lerner or the ones Liverpool had, or an insane one like Vincent Tan, or a corrupt one like Birmingham, or a one who changes manager every three months like Sunderland. They’re all worse chairmen. If Sunderland or Villa went down it would have been curtains for them as they’re already in a financial mess. I think some people assume we will get an Abramovic.

  • 20 hitman // May 15, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    total boycott its the anly way..a few of us seen all this coming on here when the fat slug slitherd into toon.stay away

  • 21 jimiley // May 15, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    It is all part of the Mike Ashley wind up. He hates the club and the supporters since the time some idiots slagged off his daughter. He will do the exact opposite of what the fans want in order to wind us up. eg keeping Pardew and appointing Joe Kinnear, the Wonga thing, renaming the ground etc etc. Some fans think he wants the club to be successful. Bollocks. He wants to get his money back (well on the way to doing that) and run the club into the ground. Telling the fans that the club does not want to win anything is a continuation of the wind up and rubbing their noses in it. He is worth nearly four thousand MILLION. Two hundred million(the club’s worth) is pin money to him and he would gladly write that off to destroy the club (Once he has got his money back!!!) Wake up you lot. STAY AWAY and forgo the heartache.

  • 22 Howden Mag // May 15, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    Jim Iley
    The brain dead are toon supporters, supporting their club. Ashley isn’t the first owner/ chairman the fans haven’t liked or wanted rid of. Good on them for sticking with the Toon.
    I have followed the club since 1961 and a season ticket holder for over the last 25 years. I have had enough and packed my ticket in. When any clubs sole ambition is to not get relegated, it drains the enthusiasm and the lack of quality signings does not inspire me to venture in to St. James Park again, unfortunately.
    I definitely do not like the harassment of fans by fans some of which is ugly which regularly shows on this blog.
    I hope I’m proved wrong,Pardew is given a better squad, bigger squad to utilise and be truly judged with. The team make an effort in cup competitions. I doubt it.

    Average contents

    Fatty can do what he wants cos it’s his!
    Unfortunately.

  • 23 wynsleap // May 15, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    This club is not here now to win things or even compete, just to make more money for Ashley’s tat empire – season after season.
    If he doesn’t care why the Hell should we?
    STAY AWAY and let’s get rid of this greedy dictatorial
    ar*****e.
    Can anyone see a better way??

  • 24 Slank // May 15, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    I see nothing wrong with those five statements listed by Ed.

    The Premiership is the most important competition, no iffs or buts about it.

    The cup competitions are secondary. The team that lined up against Cardiff were all first team regulars. Is anybody saying that Ashley, Pardew, Carver or Stone instructed the players to throw the game because if they did the fans should report the club to the league as it is an offence. Has anybody?

    Does anybody really disagree with only buying players who are of good value and will not overpay for them?

    I disagree with we cannot compete with the top six clubs in England because under Pardew he has shown that he can get the club within the top six, but also the bottom six. It would be more accurate to say that we cannot compete against the money spent by Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool. But we can compete with Everton and Spurs.

    Totally agree about the press.

  • 25 martoon // May 15, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    There are a lot of things wrong with this regime but I think people are over-reacting to the cup statement. Obviously staying in the premiership (where the money is) has to be the No. 1 priority. The club are saying they would not want a cup run to jeopardise out premiership status but that does not mean we will make no effort in these competitions.
    I found the expansion statement strange – I’m no accountant but surely if you fork out £30m to extend the stadium by about 8000 seats at say £650 per ST – you would get a return on your investment within 6 years!

  • 26 lew // May 15, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    The domestic cups is also filled with top clubs in the end.
    Therefore I see it too, as a waste of time.

    But to say that we can’t compete with top6 for the sake of securing Pardew, is A DISGRACE!!

  • 27 lew // May 15, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    I mean – we should take on the cups in 3-4 years time, if we do have a progress in getting players in, and make them play good football..

    Pardew is the weakest link, and the reason why we won’t progress..

  • 28 toonin // May 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Made up my mind to support West Ham (coz i’m a big fan of A.Carrol) and
    Man.Utd next season….i’m SICK of this fat ba$tard and his soulmate Alan Fcuking Pardumb!

  • 29 miami-mag // May 15, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    If the clubs policy is “never mind, let’s not even try” why would anyone renew their season ticket. Screw this. If the above statement doesn’t suggest that all Ashely uses us for is to broadcast his tacky cheap sports direct tat all over the world then nothing will.




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