Still Time To Vote For Your Player Of The Season


There is still time to put in your vote for who you think was Newcastle’s best player last season, when we finished in the top ten for only the third time in the last ten years. 🙁

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Mike Williamson in action against Cardiff

Mike Williamson is currently leading the poll with 25% followed by four Frenchmen – Mathieu Debuchy, Yohan Cabaye, Loic Remy and Moussa Sissoko.

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81 comments so far

  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 16, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #1

    Toss up between Willo and Debuchy
    Both been solid this season

    Blackley
    Sadly accurate
    How can you expect playing staff to put the effort in when the clubs board promote mediocracy and discourage competing at the highest level?

    It also makes you wonder when they put ridiculous statements like this out how it effects us in the market?
    We want to apparently attract eager young players and not pay cheque mercenaries so why put out such ridiculous PR statements?
    The other part of the minutes seem to gloss over the fact the club have confirmed they will stick to the publicised transfer policy, so all this talk of 5,6,7 players coming in seems highly unlikely!

    West Ham were deep in relegation trouble with an huge injury crisis when they put a youth team out….

    We were mid table, safe in the league, in a not overly busy fixture list and had no need to rotate against a club who had just appointed a new manager and were coming in to a game with lifted spirits
    We showed a huge disrespect to the competition by making changes to face another PL team in such a prestigious competition

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #2

    70TWO

    Except it’s true. The domestic cup competitions and the Europa League are simply not cost effective.

    The question should have been asked, “Do the club want to win a cup?”

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  • Average_Contents

    May 16, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #3

    Because they researched how bad it was to compete or even win one! What does that say? We are not interested in a cup run! My god you are deluded!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #4

    I’m outahere.

    It’s sad to see that some of you are so far gone with your bias that you really can’t see the wood for the trees. If you have a problem with clubs prioritising the league over cups and rotating their squad to keep players fresh for the league, then I suggest you take that up with the FA and the Premier League.

    Every single club is doing it but some of you love finding any reason to have a go at people at this club.

    I’d rather we finish 17th and win the FA Cup than finish 8th and win nothing and I think most fans would. But football doesn’t work like that and no club owner is going to risk getting relegated or risk not getting into the CL because of a cup run.

    And I repeat…the squad we put out against Cardiff (who were also weakened I believe) was definitely good enough to win. Some of you complain that HBA, Anita and Haidara didn’t get enough chances to prove themselves, well they did in that game.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #5

    Average_Contents

    You mean they did what every club does and look at the most cost effective way to invest? Clubs are businesses these days and they are all looking at ways to be more efficient. That’s why every single PL targets the league first. Every single one!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 16, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #6

    The fact that they smugly answered the question of whether we’d go for the cups if we were safe by saying Rule No 2: See rule No 1. Imo says they don’t want to win one, nothing to do with being relegated but their qualification into EL, the five players Mikey likes to keep us short will have to be bought if we were unlucky enough to qualify for Europe.

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  • mindshaft

    May 16, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #7

    Can’t believe Willo is being voted as our player of season, whilst he’s improved he has no pace and has the turning circle of a bus – if this is the best we have we are fvck3d

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  • Average_Contents

    May 16, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #8

    Anyway, the “incorrect” question that was taken out of context was asked and the response, plus the fact they had gone to the trouble of researching it their own way beforehand just showed us the complete and utter contempt they hold on cup competitions in my opinion, and if you can’t see it then your of the brainwashed type of fan!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 16, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #9

    Clubs in Europe, realistic chance of CL and in danger of relegation could be forgiven for having other priorities, clubs aiming for 43 points with 37 in the bank with half the season left should be going all out to lift that cup.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #10

    Can’t understand how Willo leads this, solid (ish) but best player??? Debuchy is far and above for me, but Remy has done well, as has Tiote. Cabaye did well for us, so is another – some would say he only played half a season, I would argue most of our players only played half a season.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #11

    JfA

    That’s just a business response. No point speculating on something that isn’t. And if we were higher up the league, then they’d want to try for CL.

    The EL is just a mess though. It’s only good for clubs that have the resources to maintain a squad big enough for European competition. So would have been good for Man Utd, possibly good for Hull to raise their status too but I don’t think it will be so good for Everton or Spurs…and it doesn’t pay anywhere near what the CL does.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #12

    JfA

    But at the time we still had an outside chance of CL football didn’t we?

    They should make a CL place available for the winner of the FA Cup. You know…FA Cup CHAMPIONS play in the CHAMPIONS League…

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 16, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #13

    TDSarf,
    What in the league is to prioritise if you are already safe.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #14

    TDS

    You say, “Since when does “the league is our priority” mean “we don’t want to win a cup”?” It means we’ll have one if we’re given one but we’re not arsed.

    If you put out a weakened side (especially for fear that if you win a cup you’re in serious danger of being relegated), it says cups are not a priority. The day the FA CUP is not a priority to NUFC is a very sad day indeed. I’m surprised any NUFC fan thinks otherwise.

    I’ve asked you whether you’ll be attending? You haven’t answered?

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    May 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #15

    Williamson has been a key part in one of the worst defences I’ve seen. All he’s done is not been awful, kept his passes simlpe, and won a few headers. Although, despite having every corner and free kick aimed at him hasn’t done a single thing with any of them. Remy and Cabaye would be leading by miles if they were actually our players. Debuchy has been the best right back in the league and teams like Bayern and Real are looking at him. Williamson if he left would go to Hull or Palace at best.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 16, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #16

    TDSarf,
    Do not stretch the boundaries of incredibility we had not a cat in hells chance of getting that CL spot and you damn well know it.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 16, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #17

    To be fair, we were higher up in the league just before the cup match, a few points behind Liverpool, so if they wanted to kick on for the chance of Champions League football, the opportunity was there. The fact is they didn’t and we were safe from relegation.

    It is funny that only English clubs don’t view the Europa league as worthwhile. Tell the Sevilla fans it is a waste of time. Or the Benfica fans who went to the final, Atletico Madrid – who used it to springboard for Champions League, and from next season, the winner gets a spot in the Champions League. So, is it really that bad a competition to be in?

    Or is it not worthwhile because when it becomes popular for viewing figures, Ashley has to put up with UEFA putting their own sponsors on the ad boards, rather than SD?

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  • Average_Contents

    May 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #18

    They got asked

    “if we are already safe like last year, will the club give it a go”

    the answer was the same

    “the league is the priority”

    what more do you need?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #19

    Blackley and Brownlie

    Attending what? Sorry I didn’t see the question.

    The day that any club doesn’t view the FA Cup as a priority is a sad day for football…but that day has long passed unfortunately.

    Why haven’t you addressed by simple point? Every club puts out weakened squads in the cup competitions so why are you criticising NUFC for something that is a fault with modern professional football?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #20

    JfA

    Yeah, I don’t think so either but if we hadn’t sold Cabaye, we were the dark horses…

    We put out a good enough squad to easily beat a weakened Cardiff. I wonder if the two managers spoke first and said “I’m going to rest 4/5 of my usual starters, is that ok?” and got the reply “Sure, I’ll rest 4/5 of mine too”. Job done…

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #21

    Nufc should spend 50 mil this window and 30 mil in January and boost the wage cap.

    Show some ambition ffs. The money is there!!

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  • Munster Mag

    May 16, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #22

    TDS, I don’t see why you are defending the club / company’s (!!) stance on the FA Cup. They have clearly shown that the Cup is not a priority. However, this just shows, again, that Ashley doesn’t understand the nature of sport, or the psyche of NUFC fans. We sent out the reserves against Brighton last year. West Ham were on their knees with injuries and in relegation trouble. Would it really have cost us much to send out a stronger team ( Remy is like two or three players to us ) and get through against Cardiff, given how relatively safe we were in the league. Its another appalling indictment of the club and yet another insight onto our “best chairman ever” , as Bills used to say. How long is he gone now , anyone know ?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #23

    Munster Mag

    Bills called him our “best chairman ever”?? Odd…

    Surely SJH wins that hands down! No competition there at all for me…unless someone would like to sing the virtues of our chairman in the 1950s or before…

    But how many times do I have to say the same thing, virtually every club rotated their squad, Cardiff did, Everton did, Arsenal did. The only PL club I saw who didn’t was Spurs and that was because it was Sherwood’s first game and it was against Arsenal.

    This whole thing isn’t about NUFC or Ashley, it’s about modern football. Seriously, check out the 3rd and 4th round matches and look at the PL clubs’ teams.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #24

    An outside chance if we had of kept Cabaye and bought our first players in a year, but the fact is that we knew Cabaye was going all along and we knew we weren’t going to replace him was all the more reason to try and win the cup.

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  • Tinman

    May 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #25

    I am sick to death of hearing this stupid cup run argument. Fair enough Europa League has a lot more games, but I am curious as to just how many extra games the FA Cup brings, as some people appear to have absolutely no idea.

    So FA Cup for example, maximum number of games to play for Premier League clubs = 10 (draw in 1st leg of 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th rounds), minimum games = 6.
    Arsenal will play 6 games this year and Hull 7.

    Rounds are played around these dates:
    3rd – Jan 4th, replay 14th
    4th – Jan 24th, replay Feb 4th
    5th – Feb 15th, replay 24th
    QF – March 8th, replay 18th
    SF – April 12th
    F – May 17th

    So over 5 months (133 days) a team can get to the final playing 6 games (5 extra as everyone plays the 3rd round).
    Arsenal have played 1 extra game every 23 or so days (113/5), Hull have played 1 extra game every 19 days (113/6).

    With a professional diet, muscular massages, professional warm ups, professional cool downs and professional exercise and training programmes anyone who is an above average athlete, of which 99% of Premier League footballers are, can play 2 games of football a week. Which they don’t even do every week even on long cup runs.

    After this you can take into account in the first couple of rounds (barring extreme circumstances) you should be able to rotate the squad to some extent and still win the tie. Then you can consider the increased adrenaline of the final rounds.

    For a professional athlete this is not a lot in my opinion. This gives a club the chance to go down in history. It is pathetic that they don’t consider it achievable.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #26

    JfA

    If we’d kept Cabaye and got a player like LDJ who could actually score then we had an outside chance. Still very unlikely but I bet we’d have finished in 8th at a minimum if that was the case. Stupid decision.

    And no, we didn’t know we wouldn’t replace him. That was just a moronic decision that made no sense.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #27

    Tinman

    That’s a seriously dumb and ill-educated post.

    Every footballer is honed to perform to his maximum and the perfect balance of performance and stamina. If a player has to play more games, then they will need to focus more on building up stamina and less on performance, in simplistic terms.

    And every player carries knocks throughout the season which means they cannot always perform at 100% Playing a tough game and then another one a few days later means that the player will not be on top form and increases the risk of further injury, plus it means that even if they don’t get injured, they still won’t have recovered by the next game a few days later.

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  • davetoon

    May 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #28

    who didnt vote for Debuchy?

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #29

    TDS – you have introduced that you are a businessman and suggest you have therefore a better knowledge or understanding than the Fans Forum members. As you introduced your “pedigree” into the debate can you please tell us what sort of businessman you are, please include your job title, if employed/self employed, how many people in your company, your responsibilities,sales figures if applicable etc etc. With this information we may be able to judge your knowledge of business matters.

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  • Average_Contents

    May 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #30

    Just another insight into the club’s “own” research! Just goes to show, they use what they want when it’s convenient and leave the rest out, Hmmmmm just like a certain someone on here! Is “IT” really a manifestation of fatty on NUFC blogs? I’m beginning to believe it!

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/713153947?-11058

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  • Tinman

    May 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #31

    ToonDarnSarf,

    If a player has a knock he gets rested, simple as that. In football 11 players play at once and a club can choose from a squad of 25 players. Or did you forget that?

    ‘and every player carries a knock’ – fact?
    ‘they still won’t have recovered by the next game a few days later’ – fact?

    I honestly can’t decide whether you’re simply an arsehole or whether you are employed by the club.

    But these days I’m leaning towards both.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #32

    Mister Tuff

    Ha! Nice. I’m not going to justify my knowledge and I’m sure there are others who know more than I do. I believe there was an accountant on last year who gave some educated feedback on the accounts for example and there are several on here who offer educated views on coaching and young players given their experience in those areas.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #33

    Bored of the negative whingers who just pick at the slightest thing and turn it into a huge big stick to try and beat the club over the head with. Some of you (you know who you are) are just really really miserable people.

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  • Thump

    May 16, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #34

    @mindshaft: Willo being in the lead for the blogs player of the season has nothing to do with his technical ability but for his commitment and application throughout the season. He’s fully deserving of it, tbh.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    May 16, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #35

    Remy, Closely followed by Cabaye and then Debuchy .

    And Yes Willo has done a decent job, but it isn’t hard to look half decent in our back four these days . Lets not forget how many thrashings we have been on the end of .

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  • theartfuldodger

    May 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #36

    Im bored of this cups talk as well..

    We did put out a decent team and could have won…

    Perhaps the club may not go for cups due to PL priority or due to EL..
    But we need more proof of that…Its not there as of yet…

    And I would prefer we finished in top 6 in PL than go for cups won by wigan and birmingham…We dont have a squad big enough for both…Can ppl understand that nxt season if we lose cabaye and remys replacements in cup games due to injury we will be 110% down…and no we we wont have replacements of replacements…If we are gonna complain it should be about that…squad size too small for PL + cups…

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  • Tinman

    May 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #37

    ToonDarnSarf,

    Quick look at how hard our players have worked this year:

    Sissoko – 34 games
    Gouffran – 34 games
    Anita – 31 games
    Total players over 30 games = 5

    Ivanovic – 50 games
    Hazard – 49 games
    Terry – 47 games
    Total over 30 games = 15

    Osman – 43 games
    Coleman – 41 games
    McCarthy – 39 games
    Total over 30 games = 12

    Skrtel – 39 games
    Henderson – 38 games
    Gerrard – 38 games
    Total over 30 games = 8

    Diame – 40 games
    Noble – 39 games
    Downing – 37 games
    Total over 30 games = 8

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  • catchy in norway

    May 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #38

    tds

    regarding your comment yesterday about having the 5th highest no of shots, and you think that’s good

    I have to totally disagree with you, like I said we were 20th for shooting out of the box, and 20th for shooting in the box, this means because we were 5th with the total amount of shots on goal , most of them were hopeless punts from out side the box,
    for me that just adds to my argument about the style we play ,

    santon
    tiote
    sissoko just hit the ball for fun , not getting anywhere near the target most of the time , but the main reason they do that is lack of options in front of them or in the box,

    and it is also shocking having the fifth highest no of shots to the total amout of goals we scored , very poor goals to shots ratio

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  • Munster Mag

    May 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #39

    TDS, I think the club has to realise, that if they want to win any silverware, and the glory that goes with it ( and some revenue too lets not forget ) , that we have to send out stronger teams in the Cups ( we probably would have won that gme with remy ) , but also to show that the club is not only focussed on money. Its all wll and good saying Arsenal do this and that, but Arsenals reserves and our reserves are very different animals, and they have a track record of doing well in cups with their kids! Moreover, its not just the choice of team, its the motivation etc of the manager – ie if he isn’t concerned about the cups, the team wont be either. The key issue here is that in the league, we were safe and we could have done more.

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #40

    TDS – forgive me but you do attempt to justify some posts by suggesting you are a knowledgeable businessman -in comparison to an ordinary fan who is not a businessman.
    As you introduced your “qualification” into the debate, I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask you to elaborate further. To give an example of what I mean lets say you were Richard Bransons’ second in command people would sit back and probably accept you business knowledge/credentials. To be fair you introduced that you are a businessman -please tell us a your business credentials,successes etc etc as previously requested. cannot see any harm in that surely.

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