John Carver – A Chair – Wrestling On The Floor And Craig Bellamy


The great Sir Bobby Robson, who is an inspiration to us to this day, once said that “Craig Bellamy is the only man I know who could start an argument with himself”, and Craig was certainly a challenge for one of the greatest managers England has ever produced.

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These two will continue at Newcastle
A top six finish next season?


John Carver, now that Pardew has kept his job will remain the assistant manager at Newcastle, and he has talked some of Bobby Robson’s five year reign at the club, when he as also the assistant manager at that time.

And that was the last time Newcastle were in the top four, and Bobby achieved that twice in his last three season at Newcastle – what a manager this man was – and he was also simply a great man.

At a recent talk-in event, Carver talked of some of the things that happened behind the scenes at the then very successful Newcastle club:

“The reports said I threw a chair at him in the departure lounge that had been set aside for the players. That wasn’t entirely true.”

“I was angry and I threw a chair out of the way so I could go and argue with him. It nearly hit Shay Given, actually, but that was an accident.”

“A fight isn’t just fists. It is what it is. Whatever you can get hold of, you get hold of. If you lose your temper, anything goes. But this wasn’t a fight. This was just silly stuff. It was very childish from both of us.”

“I was yelling at him and he was yelling at me, but we were mates, basically, so were never going to start throwing punches at each other.”

“We ended up wrestling stupidly on the floor. I didn’t know at the time but Bobby was giving a press conference on the other side of the screens from where we were grappling and the press could hear that a kerfuffle was going on.”

Oh my – wrestling on the floor – and Bobby was talking to the press at the same time – and that’s when we were successful! 😀

We have taken the quote from the NUFC Fans web-site, which we must say is producing some excellent articles these days.

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A young Craig Bellamy while at Newcastle

Newcastle United are going through a bad time at the moment, maybe a very bad time, maybe even a very very bad time, but it’s nothing that a good season and a top six finish next season wouldn’t put right very quickly.

We really hope he is successful for the good of what is still a great club, and don’t forget when we were in the top four we still had coaches wrestling with one of our top players on the floor. 😀

Such is a unique and famous football club in England – and still one of the best – despite all the negativity in the air at the moment on Tyneside.

And remember Jose Mourinho, who knew all about Newcastle from his time working as the right hand man of Bobby Robson, had this to say about Newcastle last season:

“It’s better to work at a crazy big club than a small club.”

It looks like Newcastle are a crazy club when we are doing well, and crazy when we are doing badly – which is the case at the moment.

It must be in the DNA.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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14 comments so far

  • Bambams

    May 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #1

    Think it was a little more than moving a chair. It’s Bellamy we are talking about !

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  • Average_Contents

    May 19, 2014 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #2

    Carl

    Jfa has been yearning for that article for days now and I can see why as it hits the nail rather firmly and squarely on the proverbial head

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    May 19, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Comment #3

    Liked Bellamy as a player but couldn’t stand him as a person .

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  • carl

    May 19, 2014 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #4

    AC
    No problem.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 19, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #5

    Carl, Thankyou.
    This is the article I have been going on abot first published by a poster named Dingo!
    Jail FA- Listen closely on match day at St James’ Park and you can hear it. Beneath the clamour for Alan Pardew’s removal, the chanting against Mike Ashley’s tainted stewardship, you can hear it. Beneath the swells of noise which still pummel Newcastle United’s stadium, when you can close your eyes and conjure those warm, aching memories of Shearer and Sir Bobby, Keegan and beyond, you can hear it. Tick, tick, tick. The sound of a football club ticking over.

    Look across the country and you will see teams in peril, indebted to the eyeballs, haemorrhaging money. You will find anguish and despair, the newly-relegated wrestling with reduced status and job-losses. Throughout the divisions, you will stumble upon fractured dreams and sharp disappointment, concerns that careerist managers or stellar players will move on. But you will not see anywhere less life-affirming than Newcastle.

    Read through the minutes of the club’s latest Fans Forum and experience a moment of cold, grey clarity; Ashley and Lee Charnley, his managing director, are not custodians of a proud sporting institution, they are caretakers. There is no straining for glory, pushing for excellence, or speculating to accumulate, they are keeping the place tidy and double-checking that the lights still work. Tick, tick, ticking over.

    There was no fresh discovery – the heavily-trailed confirmation that Pardew “will remain the club’s manager,” barely counts – and yet with each repetition of these bland and misery words, bereft of any feeling or colour, we understand more about Newcastle’s standing. My favourite sentence was probably the “commitment to an open and consistent communications process.” Co-writer: David Brent.

    The humourless, corporate language is not a coincidence; it has been one of the few consistencies of the Ashley era, where programme notes, statements and press releases are passed from desk to desk and stripped of love, until they read like the most turgid of annual reports. Don’t let them Geordies get too keen, whatever you do. Don’t get their hopes up. Play down, minimise, obfuscate, offend.

    In the case of cup competitions, their attitude is now entrenched. “The board reiterated that the Premier League will remain the club’s priority,” they said and, in itself, there is nothing unremarkable here. Whoever you are, the league is always the priority, the bread and butter, the paying of bills, the bedrock of any season and more so, perhaps, when the consequences of relegation can be counted in the tens of millions.

    It is impossible to actively prioritise a tournament which, by its very nature, is unpredictable; all it takes is one blast from the referee’s whistle, an own-goal, a bad decision, a wondrous intervention from an opponent to make planning worthless. By the same token, you can be set up to have a go, you can pick your best team, motivate your players, instil in the club the desire and ambition to win something, the emotional importance of ending that journey.

    Yohan Cabaye (“injured” although fit enough to play the matches immediately before and afterwards) and Loic Remy did not start against Cardiff City in the FA Cup third round on January 4 and Newcastle duly lost. Those who say the XI picked by Pardew was strong enough have a point, but the atmosphere was flat and beaten from the beginning and did not waver. They have not progressed beyond the fourth round of either domestic cup under Ashley.

    The Fans Forum again. “The board outlined research into Premier League clubs in relation to domestic cup competitions in the last five years, with Swansea City the only club outside the traditional top six to win a domestic cup and not be relegated in the same season (Birmingham and Wigan Athletic were both relegated).” Research over the last five years is a contradiction in terms. It is a five-minute click-fest on Wikipedia.

    How about this season, when Sunderland’s fortunes were resuscitated and then inspired by their run in the Capital One Cup? How about Hull City, who have definitely not been relegated and are in Saturday’s FA Cup final? What about Portsmouth (not, admittedly, the best model of financial probity), who won it six years ago and finished eighth? Since 2000, Leicester City, Blackburn Rovers and Middlesbrough have all lifted a trophy and stayed up, outside the top-six.

    This is not prioritising, this is close to saying that cups are unwelcome (which, in retrospect, is pretty much how Newcastle’s season in the Europa League has been portrayed). Here is the next passage: “Independent research into the cost of relegation over the past ten years showed there is a 50 per cent chance of not gaining promotion back to the top flight and a 30 per cent chance of being relegated to League One or further. In addition, if clubs do return to the Premier League, it takes four years on average.”

    What if Newcastle could finish higher in the table than their most recent 10th? “At this moment in time, the club’s priority is the Premier League.” The choice being offered is stark: stay in the Premier League or go for a cup and be relegated. It is also patronising nonsense.

    Newcastle are averse to opportunity. When they finished fifth in 2012 and had momentum behind them, their only senior signing was Vurnon Anita, whose midfield position was not a priority. By the time January came along and a small squad was stretched and struggling, they were obliged to splurge. Then came Joe Kinnear and a wasteland spell of Director of Football, which brought two transfer windows without a permanent addition.

    They were sixth on Boxing Day, with a chance to kick on. Instead, Cabaye was sold – for less than Ashley wanted – and promise dissipated into dreadful form and growing animosity. Contrary to the statement which accompanied Charnley’s recent promotion, when he said Newcastle’s intention is to sign “one or two players per year to strengthen the squad,” they will be far more active this summer, but this is less a demonstration of ambition as simple necessity.

    Without Cabaye, Newcastle are barren creatively, particularly with Pardew unwilling to accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa. Without Loic Remy, whose loan from Queens Park Rangers is now complete, they have no regular source of goals, and without Shola Ameobi and Luuk de Jong they have no back-up, no matter how pale. Replacing them will be costly, although with the money they have saved and the riches banked from television revenue, they can afford it.

    Newcastle have become self-sufficient, but no boundaries are being pushed. At the Fans Forum, it was said that “the owner is not actively trying to sell the football club,” and while this is true – no bank or broker has been engaged – there is a sensation of limbo, stability as an end in itself rather than a side-effect of sound and structured leadership, tick, tick, ticking over, waiting for the right offer, loveless and lacking soul. They are a football club where football is no longer a “priority”

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #6

    A_C,
    I do rather think that the article fairly hits the proverbial straight on the head.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    May 19, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #7

    john carver and pardew have really proven themselves to be pathetic at management. would be glad to see the back of john carver too.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 19, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #8

    AC…my point was more in the direction of loyalty fees and so on.

    …connections are very important in football I agree. Personally I get where the club is coming from and I probably wouldn’t pay those ridiculer agent fees myself.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Comment #9

    Mike Ashley and his ruinious policies have destroyed this blog !

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  • cyprus

    May 19, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #10

    You know, Bellamy’s departure coincides with the Newcastle slide to an average side. With him we had CL, saving of Shearer’s floundering last years, goals and spirit to boot. One of our best players, whom idiot Sounness grabbed by the neck and proceeded to get rid. Was hoping Craig would win that one but it wasn’t to be. Today’s analogy and same hope: AP and HBA.

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  • cyprus

    May 19, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #11

    Bad boy and all that crap. Apparently, behind the scenes, he’s one of the most benevolent dudes around.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 19, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #12

    Interesting breakdown on how much it costs to watch your team and value for money – http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/true-cost-premier-league-season-ticket-201314?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #13

    Cyprus,
    Sacking SBR was possibly one of the darkest moments in our history before Mashers turned up, he wanted Bruce as his successor, he should have been moved upstairs until and Bruce might have had different thoughts on joining, instead Shepherd callously sacked him and we ended up with the fourth or fifth choice, I’ll never forget Iwas up a pair of ladders working in Jarrow when a mate in Dublin rang me up and told me the news about Souness, I nearly fell off that ladder, I was more gutted than when I heard Pardew had signed.

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  • cyprus

    May 19, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #14

    JFA,
    That even probably is more important, I agree. Shepherd hitting the panic button. Still, I am not aware how much the great SBR still had in him, for reasons beyond his control. But, losing Bellamy is directly related to the slide too. Sometimes, it’s silly decisions like that (Milner too… what was it, a measly 10 mil or so?) which can change the whole direction of a team. Two three players can make a difference, as the rest of the team aren’t usually completely useless, and they get a lift, and space. Think Chelsea… without Hazard they looked decidedly average and beatable. Liverpool without Suarez? That’s why we need 2-3 awesome signings (to use Zlatan’s favourite word) and we’ll be ok.

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