Newcastle’s Initial Bid For Top Target Not Big Enough


There was news a day or two ago that Newcastle had put in an initial offer of £8M for Remy Cabella, and we remember in January Montpellier were wanting around £14M for their player, so it’ s not too surprising that the news today is the Newcastle offer isn’t big enough – what’s new?

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Remy Cabella – coming to Newcastle with open arms?

That £14M price tag in January however would have been inflated for two reasons – one was that Montpellier knew that Newcastle had just received £20M from PSG for Yohan Cabaye, and therefore had big money available to spend, and the second was that they didn’t want to lose Cabella, because they were in relegation trouble.

But Montpellier finished 15th in the French League, but only 2 points above the drop zone, and the club have told Cabella he can leave in the summer.

And with the huge money paid out by the Premier League this month, any PL club could find the fee inflated when they go after their targets this summer.

The Journal is reporting this morning that Newcastle will have to raise their fee closer to the £11M mark if they want Cabella, and of course he is also wanted by other clubs, so let’s hope Newcastle don’t dither around too much with the fee, as we’ve done in the past – too many times.

And Montpellier President Lou Nicollin doesn’t have a good history negotiating with Newcastle either, and would seem to prefer his players to join any club other than Newcastle – for whatever reason.

Top clubs Atletico Madrid, Borussia Dortmund and Marseilles are all said to be interested in the 24 year-old, and although Newcastle want to tie up their transfer business in the next four weeks. that’s going to be really difficult.

It’s a World Cup year for one thing, and also the selling clubs will hold out for more money, especially when some big clubs are interested in their player – as is the case with Cabella.

And Atletico Madrid play their neighbors Real Madrid in the Champions League final on Saturday, and the 70 year-old Montpellier President believes (or maybe he has been told) that Atletico will come in with a bid after that final game of the season, which could see Atletico Madrid win the Champions League for the very first time in their history – they were runners-up way back in 1974 to Bayern Munich when they lost 4-0.

It would be a very good time and a good omen for Newcastle to increase their offer for Cabella, and get Montpellier to sell him to Newcastle this week, and the youngster seems to be very willing to come to Tyneside, after Yohan sold him on the club.

But we all know that’s just not going to happen.

Where’s Freddy Shepherd when we need him? 😀

What do you think?



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35 comments so far

  • martoon

    May 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #1

    I think £8m is a realistic offer for a midfield player who is not a regular international. It still leaves room for negotiation to, say, £10m which I would say is a fair price for him.

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  • spitfire_

    May 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #2

    What a shock.

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  • headtheball

    May 20, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #3

    Our offer wasn’t enough. I’m flabbergasted!
    HWTL

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #4

    I’m stunned, it’s a good job i was sitting down when i read that

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 20, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #5

    From last thread

    And so it begins. Noble, like his would-be manager, defines mediocrity. Why are we talking about West ham rejects and at 8m at that!!!!

    I’m sorry but the English players we’re linked with are way, way over priced when you consider Cabaye was 4.5M!

    Even if we somehow don’t cock up getting Cabella and some of the more promising sounding people like the German striker, Grenier and this Spanish guy etc, we still have manager with only a 37% win ratio who couldn’t develop a cold, let alone promising young talent !

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  • croftus5678

    May 20, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #6

    i heard it was 8mil euro’s not pounds which = about £6.8mil !

    cabella worth 10mil as he’s great player and would do well for us but i’m not going to like his diving tbh.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 20, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #7

    Duh. It’s called NEGOTIATION. If you go to buy a car and it’s listed at £7,995 do you just offer £7,995 and sign the paperwork or do you say you were looking to spend a max of £7,000…

    This (if even true) is perfectly fine tactics. The issue is whether they get the players over the line…

    Doesn’t have to be him but we clearly need 2 strikers and some creativity in midfield at a minimum

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 20, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #8

    Hmmm….Simone or pardew lol !

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  • Slank

    May 20, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #9

    They will probably reach an agreement between what his club want and what we are prepared to pay.

    His club will know that Premiership clubs have received a lot of money from the league but also with the extra money they can now afford other players that perhaps were hitherto out of our range.

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  • croftus5678

    May 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #10

    on the upside if only a few of what we are hearing is true then we have actually got our backsides into gear and are trying to sign players even though the window is not open untill the first so you never know we might actually sign a player ^^

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 20, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #11

    Duh,
    Would you walk to work in the rain for a year and a half to save £ 995 !

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 20, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #12

    Slank,
    Like they did with all the other players we failed to get over the line.

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  • jayphoto

    May 20, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #13

    Seen cabella alot, i like him buy i have doubts on him being worth more than 8-10m
    Different player but Grenier is a better option and i think has the potential to be worth 20m one day and Gourcuff is a cheaper option tho hes terrible for squad morale)

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #14

    Duh but the negotiations didn’t work did they
    Because come the end of January we didn’t have a replacement

    Yup canny f**king tactics right there

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  • Phil K

    May 20, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #15

    Its Ashley’s old trick. Make an offer you KNOW will be refused and can say “Well, we tried” He’s done it so many times before. If they called his bluff he’d pull out and make another excuse

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 20, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #16

    JfA

    Duh, no. I’d have back-up and back-ups to the back-ups.

    When I last negotiated to rent a flat, I narrowed it down to a shortlist of 3, knocked down the price for the one I wanted least (which was also the most overpriced) and then went into the other two to say I had a preference for theirs but the price and quality of the other flat was acceptable. If they could match the price then I’d take it. I got the flat I wanted at around 17% off the asking price.

    The problem with such a visible negotiation is once Ashley shows himself to be easily pushed to paying the asking price, every other selling club will know they can do it. If we need to be pushed into offering the asking price, it will take some time and no doubt other offers for other players will be used in the process too.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #17

    And despite failing to get him in January, we’ve had a whole half season to negotiate a fee, window opens and yet again we lowball them

    Top stuff

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  • lesh

    May 20, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #18

    ToonDarnSarf….. Let’s not forget the principles Ashley won’t deviate from.

    There’ll be a final take it leave it offer made and Cabella’ll end up somewhere else.

    Haven’t we seen all this carry on before?

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #19

    croftus

    I imagine it’s a ruse to shift season tickets.
    If I actually see Cabella, Grenier, Perez, Pierre-Michel Lasogga and Bafetimbi Gomis. I take it all back.

    Sadly I think it will be very much a B list of Colback, Noble, Tomkins, Jenkinson, Caulker, which will hardly get the pulses racing but will be typical Pardew safety first grafters.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #20

    “no doubt other offers for other players will be used in the process too.”
    Spent a whole window haggling for PEA, no other targets, a whole summer haggling for Debuchy, no other targets

    Like the football on the pitch we’ve never shown we have a plan b in transfer market

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #21

    TADS

    Yeah. That is a bit daft. I reckon Ashley wants to wait until the end of the season to see if there are more favourable targets based on clubs getting relegated or not getting into Europe. Actually that’s probably sensible given these money focussed days we live in…

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #22

    lesh

    Yeah, we have. And hopefully Ashley knows that will simply not be acceptable this summer. One poor window was bad, 2 was ridiculous but 3 will simply be unacceptable!

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  • headtheball

    May 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #23

    Duh,
    If we get anything over the moving line I think it will be great business by a great businessman and as they say ” there’s no business like no business”
    HWTL

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #24

    Lesh
    Only every window!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    May 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #25

    TADS

    Well, we have a new man at the helm so let’s see what he does before judging him. It’s not “the club’s” fault because the club doesn’t do transfers, people do. 🙂

    PEA was only ever going to come if a CL club didn’t offer the asking price and offer him the football he wanted. We were always a back-up option for him.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #26

    Phil K

    You could have something there. would be funny to see ash being bluffed and having to invent more excuses not to got through with it!.

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  • bobby mango

    May 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #27

    Wonder how long this one will drag out

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #28

    What in the last year has pointed to Ashley learning from past mistakes exactly?
    I have no doubt we will make a couple of signings, a couple of squad fillers looking for a second chance after not making it at there clubs, basically we’ll get a few Obertans in

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #29

    TDS
    He’s not a new man at the helm, his role hasn’t really changed it’s been confirmed numerous times that he’s always been involved in transfer negotiations
    Not denying PEA wanted CL the point was once again we didn’t have a plan B just like we didn’t when we missed out on Remy the first time round

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  • croftus5678

    May 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #30

    @19 rotonda

    1st part i completely agree with (which is why i’m not taking option on season ticket but it seems i maybe have missed the boat now anyways lol)

    2nd part tbh theres a few players there i wouldnt mind tbh lol but think i know what your getting at with them all being defensive players.

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  • Sazzer

    May 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #31

    This Ayoze Pérez looks like an intelligent player reminds me of Javi Hernandez.

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    May 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #32

    Freddie Shepperd wouldn’t have even heard of him. He’d be too busy trying to sign Raul and tempting Beckham out of retirement. We’d undoubtedly have Defoe, Crouch, Lennon, and anyone else looking for a bumper pay deal before they retire.

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  • NKOTB

    May 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #33

    TDS@7

    Any negotiation also depends on how much you want/need what you are offering for. Could risk losing out to someone else.

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  • ronjohno

    May 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #34

    EVERY TIME – they never just go in with a proper offer.
    I know some bartering takes place but no other club seems to have a problem agreeing fees.

    Watched the Cup Final and it made me even madder that NUFC want to deprive us of the possibility of a dream

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  • tynesidetommo

    May 20, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #35

    And the bullshit from Ashley begins. Another window and another dose if the brown stuff

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