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Reports Newcastle To Unload Eight Frenchmen This Summer

9:07 am, Saturday, May 24th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 70 Comments

There was news in France yesterday that Alan Pardew will let 25 year-old center-back Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa leave the club this summer, after he’s been less than impressive in the almost eighteen months he’s been at Newcastle.

massadio haidara

Massadio Haidara – for sale this summer?

But the reports in France are that Newcastle will effectively be unloading other senior French players, and that they will include Sylvain Marveaux, Hatem Ben Arfa, Gabriel Obertan, and even Massadio Haidara, as well as Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa.

The one that surprises us a little bit there is 21 year-old Massadio Haidara, and he’s looked decent enough when he’s been in the Newcastle first team, and maybe he deserves another season to prove himself at the club.

If the news is true that means that two of the five Frenchmen we brought in eighteen months ago, to help save us from relegation, will leave in the summer – assuming other clubs come in for them.

And it’s almost certain that Newcastle will also offload 24 year-old Frenchman Romain Amalfitano, who could well sign permanently for French second division side Dijon, where he’s been on loan this season.

That’s six Frenchmen leaving, and if you add in Loic Remy and Yohan Cabaye, it means that eight French players could be leaving the club this year, before September rolls around.

Of those eight we would have liked to have seen Loic Remy, Ben Arfa and Massadio Haidara stay at the club, but that’s not going to happen.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Tags: Gabriel Obertan · Hatem Ben Arfa · Loic Remy · Massadio Haidara · Newcastle News · Romain Amalfitano · Sylvain Marveaux · Transfer News and Rumours · Yohan Cabaye

70 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Robby Bobson // May 24, 2014 at 9:11 AM

    Haidars ia better than Dummett, caused problems down the left vs liverpool…csnt see why we would buy a young left back and sell him 18 months later after decdnt performances

  • 2 TorqToon // May 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

    Where did pardew say he was getting rid of Yanga???

  • 3 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Would anyone take Sidwell on a free? Just released by Fulham (surprisingly tbh) by a good solid squad player?

    On the previous article
    When looking for a good CF, we really need to move away from France imho

  • 4 BuckLuck // May 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    I had high hopes for Haidara. I even saw him as a starter in the future. Maybe something happened behind the scenes with some of the french guys. Mbiwa, Haidara, Ben Arfa(we allready know he’s been hard to manage this season) and others hasn’t been trusted by Pardew. That’s pretty clear.

  • 5 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    There’s no way the club will shift MYM on, I’m surprised Pardew wasn’t told to play him more to boost his investment!

    This story has only come about since Colo has said he is staying, personally think Colo is a poor captain, not vocal enough and falls apart under pressure
    MYM is still young and yes he was inconsistent but probably because he kept getting dropped when ever colo was fit again and played in 2-3 different positions which was ridiculous

    Having said that and as desperate as we are for a CF/CAM surely our defence needs a massive over haul?
    Two seasons in a row we have continually shipped goals far too easily and regularly so to start another season with Colo Wilo and and Santon making up 3/4 of the back line will be disastrous

  • 6 stretchintoon // May 24, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    yanga’s been less than impressive….then play him in his right position pardew you dimlo!

  • 7 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // May 24, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    What’s the betting we go in for De Jong simply because we can’t get in anyone else?
    I don’t understand the Haidara situation at all, twice the quality of Dummett and always looked promising when played. For me he should start. I don’t rate Dummett in the slightest, he’s rash, has no composure, hoofs it up with his left constantly and has little to no attacking threat.

  • 8 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    Haidara – like what I saw needs to be kept another year could progress into a very good player given the chance.
    Mbiwa – would keep him needs to put on a bit of weight strength to easily bullied but good on the ball and can pass.

    Benny – don’t know bit of a enigma don’t know what you are going to get can be brilliant – can be a waste of space – who knows????

    Rest on list get rid

  • 9 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    tads…Sidwell is 31 years old and would be looking for one last big contract!

    …will his motivation be in the right place? I think we will need someone else (just an opinion)

  • 10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Ed, we have released 9 (7 of our own players) on a free; we will not be offloading any other players unless someone comes in for them.

    …we cannot and have not replaced some many players before!

  • 11 spitfire_ // May 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    To keep Saylor and unload MYM will be one of the most ridiculous decisions ever.

  • 12 croftus5678 // May 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    think this story is absolute garbage tbh ! i keep my eye on all news surrounding our club and apparently this was rumour started in france.

    i agree in priciple that marv/ober/amal should be moved on as quick as poss and even arfa as he seems to be upsetting the first team but mbiwa/hairdryer are very usefull to us atm unless we get a replacement for mbiwa i would see it as a very bad move ! and like has said before hairdryer is on par with santon and dummett so why get little money when you can get a lot more from santon ?

  • 13 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    …but then again it probably wouldn’t make a difference 😉

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Agree he’s getting on in age but don’t think anyone could really say Sidwell has ever been a pay cheque player?

  • 15 tynesidetommo // May 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Madness. Haidara is a top player in the making and should not be shown the exit door

  • 16 Rotonda heights // May 24, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Newcastle Paying Cash Up Front Will Help Recruitment

    Not when the manager is Pardew. Surely it would be easier to get rid of him than ship out half a squad!

  • 17 theartfuldodger // May 24, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    These rumour mongers should start listing players who will stay at the club…after all their unloading surely that will be the shortest list…

  • 18 Toon1978 // May 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    There is nothing concrete to say MYM or Hiadara are on their way out. Total speculation. Both are potential French Internationals, one already sniffing around the French team as it is in MYM. It just does not make sense at all. Strikers and wingers and a creative midfielder is a must and hopefully one or two defenders.

  • 19 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Sidwell went to Chelsea to sit on the bench for the pay cheque. He knew he was going to be sitting on the bench as he was a like for like for Parker. Decent player but it would be a no for me. Would prefer a younger player such as Delph to compete for centre midfield.

    I guess Fulham will have let him go due to his wages being on the high side for the Championship.

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    tads…personally I would want someone younger and with something to prove!

    …I seems players such as Sidwell (age-wise) would be looking for that one last big pay! There is no motivation in that really.

    Plus shouldn’t we have money to burn this time around? 😉

  • 21 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    On the lists of players leaving, it is getting a bit ridiculous now. Just as at most clubs in Europe all the players would be available if the right offer comes in.

    The fact is that so far there is a lot of talk of us wanting to offload players, but very little of clubs actually wanting to buy most of them. Therefore they will stay.

    Seriously, who is going to pay NUFC and match Obertan’s salary here? Same could be said for Marveaux.

  • 22 pottsclock // May 24, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Haidara is quality and will only improve with more games. Would be massively surprised if this is true.

  • 23 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    HSV needs money do what about Milan Badelj?

    Grégory Sertic from Bordeaux would be affordable as well!

  • 24 Phil K // May 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Remember – Carr didn’t rate Obertan. He was Pardews idea. And shows why Paardew should be booted out

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Phil K,
    Pardew also wanted Lallana when he was valued at £5million. The club went for Anita on Carr’s recommendation instead.

  • 26 beermonkey // May 24, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    paper talk paper talk paper talk

    that’s all it is every1 knows were having a a mini clear out
    I have no problem with goofy but I see he didn’t make the leaving list if he was a real winger he would be first on the list tbh 3 assists for a winger not good

    I can see debuchy being sold had a good season some good teams will look at him.

    the only Frenchmen were looking to get rid off benny marv almifitno obatan

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Lilongwe…I hardly think SOTON would have sold Lallana for £5M back when we were interested. It’s not like they need the money 😉

  • 28 Greebol1892 // May 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    What!?! Cabaye is leaving in the summer? And Remy too….?

    Dear me, Ed. Surely you can do better than serve up this crap.

  • 29 geordie157 // May 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Marveaux and Obertan will leave, although i’ll be amazed if we get an offer for the latter.

    Haidara needs to stay, I think Abeid and Sammy can push on next season.

  • 30 geordie157 // May 24, 2014 at 10:36 AM


    Is Badejl good? He’s good on my FM game at the moment, but have to admit I’ve never seen him play.

  • 31 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Maybe, maybe not. The point is that just cause he signed Obertan doesn’t mean he can’t sign good players. That isn’t what makes him a bad manager. It is the fact that he is clueless tactically, and can’t get the best out of players that makes him a useless manager.

    Like with Ashley, I don’t get the need to invent and fabricate stuff to knock him or Pardew. There are plenty of genuine things that you can stick to without that.

  • 32 beermonkey // May 24, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    there are plenty of other things that make him a bad manager I cant think of any players off the top of my head that he has bought and they have gone on to bigger and better things, but is that down to the clubs he has managed and there scouting teams

  • 33 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Know a lot of Sidwells mate and play footy with a couple of them, he genuinely thought he could make it at Chelsea 100%
    When it was clear he wasn’t going to get a chance he was out the door mate
    Not saying he’s a great player and yeah we need some young players in like Delph too but where’s the experience in the squad atm?

  • 34 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    geordie157…he has done very well at HSV!

    tads made a point about him before Cabaye left 🙂

  • 35 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 24, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Lilongwe….well of course not 😉

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    I think I’ve cursed him HSV had a woeful season and he and Van Der Vaart have had a bit of criticism this season
    Still he’s only 25 and has been solid for seasons would be a great addition……..if we scouted anywhere else but France that is

  • 37 Transfer Sage // May 24, 2014 at 11:31 AM


    Very true on Llalana.

    Pardew may not be the best at managing but like all of us here can pick a decent player to come in, just the owner doesn’t back him.

    As from what I’ve seen if Carr he is a good scout, but also not doing great at finding some players. It’s all well and good recommending good players like cabella and grenier but whys he not scouting more players within our budget also.

    I can tell you plenty of good players if I don’t need to operate in a budget, I think too much is made of Carr. No doubt a good scout and picking out talent and potential, but arsenals scouts have done much better for much longer.

    Not wanting to knock the guy as it’s difficult to do your job when the club doesn’t sign anyone at all for a year.

  • 38 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Fair enough if he thought he could make it, it makes him a bit deluded instead of a money grabber. 🙂

    In terms of experience, what classes as experience? Can only old players be experienced? Tiote has a few seasons under his belt here, as does Colo. I’d say they offer that bit of experience. I wouldn’t mind a 27/28 year old proven Prem player, but one who could push Tiote or Sissoko for a central berth. Sidwell isn’t good enough for that, so I’d prefer young talent to come in to grow into the first team.

    Just my personal preference mind, I do get why you put Sidwell forward though.

  • 39 jimmysmith // May 24, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    And where was that reported Ed? In the Beano!

  • 40 sportsdirect // May 24, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    rubbish press rumour.
    yes there will be some of the france players leave such as obertan, marv and amilifatano and remy (he was never ours to keep).
    however, debuchy sissoko gouffran yanga and haidarra will all be here for start of season.
    ben arfa should stay. if only our manager had the same mindset as blanc when he was tapping up hazard via press. he said a player who can drift pass 3-4 opposition and create are special and its great not knowing what they will do next when allowed to play. no comment at all about putting the shackles on and tracking back.
    if a few english are wanted i would consider curtis davies and richards to bolster defence. ince and aaron hunt in the midfield plus de jong and gomis in attack.
    plenty quality is out there. club does not need to spend vast sums.
    i would also take the proposed ac milan swap deal and cash for santon.

  • 41 Transfer Sage // May 24, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    We need a good, commanding CB to play alongside mbiwa next year. Willo had a good year but in his 30s now and not quite the top quality we want, much better for 3rd choice than saylor though who really struggles with injuries and consistency.

    I think we are fine in the fullback department, have debuchy and haidara who will be good for us, with santon pushing too and young dummett/tav.

    Midfield we need some real creativity in there, tiote is ok to play DM but not sure what anita really does, neither attacking or defensive, limited range of passing and not really one for a the killer/final pass either, decetn squad player though. Sissoko is a good box to box lad for me, just needs that freedom to drive and the support too…..then we need a creative lad or two to replace cabaye.

    forwards are the biggest area, 2 strikers for me we need, no problem with this young lad from spain and somebody like gomis (not a great outlay either)….then two good wide men to offer a bit/good options ideally one of them who’s a goal threat too.

    So for me its
    – 1 CB
    – 2 creative players (1 at least)
    – 2 wingers (1 at least who is a goal threat)
    – 2 forwards.

    Total of 7, personally think we won’t bother with a CB and only get 3 of the 4 out of creative/wide men…so end up with 5 players coming in.

  • 42 Crawfordladd17 // May 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM


  • 43 Transfer Sage // May 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    sports direct

    I’d really look at city and take players like Richards, Rodwell, Milner, Sinclair… what all 4 would cost.

  • 44 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    I posed the question a while back on here when people were giving a lot of our players abuse for not being up to it whether they still thought Carr was a “super-scout”. Everyone gets it wrong occasionally when picking players. Remember Fumaca under Bobby Robson? Gavilan? Cordone? etc. Yet Sir Bobby was a world class manager. Sir Alex and Kleberson/Djemba-Djemba.

    Yeah, we can all pick players that are already showing their ability, the challenge is getting them on the u, and being able to scout potential. Much harder, but much more rewarding when you get it right. As you say, Arsenal have done that well for years, but also had some shockers at the same time.

    As long as you get more right than wrong you are doing okay.

  • 45 beermonkey // May 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM


    we ave needed a commanding centre for a while our goal dif for a defence minded team is woeful

    but I don’t think it will change this season

    what we need and what we get will be completely diffrent

  • 46 Transfer Sage // May 24, 2014 at 11:48 AM


    I think, especially with kids (16-19), if you get 50% of them right when scouting you are doing a bloody good job, realistically 30% success rate is pretty good.

    I’ve got nothing against Carr, I’m not saying he is a bad scout at all, he does a good job, probably above average, but not a miracle worker, he will get some wrong.

    It’s a difficult job though, stats are almost irrelevant, which is why i don’t care about a players record when he comes. It’s more about how/when he gets his goals than how many, what was the context of their good play….do they do it when winning easy or do they drag a team back into a match, etc etc….do they get goals in a struggling side or against struggling sides only. Will their style fit with how we play or will they end up a bystander.

    It’s not an easy job, and when the owner can’t find his wallet it gets so much harder.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // May 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM


    The thing is we are a defensive team but we don’t defend well….we have players out of position all the time, no matter who plays, to me that shows it’s tactical/coaching/plans etc that are wrong.

    It’s the same in attack/midfield too, we don’t get people in the right places at the right time, hence the reason we always shoot from 30 yards as far too often we don’t have men in the box, running in behind, etc.

  • 48 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Tbf I’d take all the lads that Citeh seem determined to get shot of!

  • 49 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    When I was doing scouting I would barely look at their records until after seeing them play a few times. Once you thought they may have something and be worth a go, then you would take a look at their past statistics and factor it in. Finally, whether they would fit in personality wise, and settle into a new area okay. When it comes to youngsters, most of those are incredibly difficult to judge.

    I think Carr is decent, but I’d be more interested to see how he does if we dipped out of the French market. I think his ability to pick up talented players on the cheap there is a lot more to do with his vast array of contacts. Nothing wrong with that, and it is sensible for the club to take advantage of it, but it is very limiting if that is all we can do.

    As for the owner and his lost wallet, well let’s hope he finds it this summer!

  • 50 beermonkey // May 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    your not wrong look at the players that wenger has gone through
    I have faith in our scouting I dont have the faith we will get them over the line

    you can buy players in there prime top class players and it can still fail

    marveax I think has been a fail as has obatan but on the whole I don’t think we have bought bad just not enough

  • 51 Average_Contents // May 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Interesting little insight into transfer dealings

  • 52 sportsdirect // May 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    i would estimate all 4 from city you named would cost the club between 20-25million.

    my view is the club will bring in players but the numbers will be less than what we all can see is the minimum needed.

    i also believe there is quality out there who this club would be a no brainer for and vasts amount is not required. however it all stems from a good sound base, good prep n research which sadly from outside looking in that all seems poor but one can have hope.

    as it stands now its at times like this i wish i was involved (as will alot on here) as we all know the areas we need to strengthen and there have some good options put forward (some not so) but in the main some good footie knowledge is shown on here by some.

  • 53 Rotonda heights // May 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM


    so how come MYM won the ligue 1 title as captain?

  • 54 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Yeah, Wenger has brought through some great players, but he has probably bought and released twice a many, if not more. Some of them have gone on to do reasonably well for themselves still, but not up to scratch for Wenger.

    Top class players can fail as well, Veron, Shevchenko, Crespo all struggled on these shores, but were without doubt quality players.

    There is so much more to scouting players than many realise. Probably why unless you make it to the very top it is a tough life. It certainly didn’t make me enough cash to give up my day job, but I enjoyed every second of it.

    On the whole, Carr has done a good job under the constraints here, I would like us to develop our network in the UK and elsewhere in the world though. Or we will see more windows like last summer.

  • 55 Rotonda heights // May 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM


    tbf we don’t know how many Carr has recommended and for whatever reason pardew didn’t want them or ash wouldn’t pay

  • 56 niafron // May 24, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Bonjour messieurs!

    …Hum… do you believe i’m too on the transfer list?

  • 57 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Of the City lads I’d take Richards and Rodwell. I can’t remember much of Sinclair this season, he was on loan at West Brom wasn’t he? How did he get on?

    I don’t see Sinclair fitting in to a Pardew team, I think Moses from Chelsea would be more suitable as he is more direct and powerful than a jinky wide man.

    Milner I think would just be way too costly, and doubt he would come here again.

  • 58 beermonkey // May 24, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie
    the amount of players we as fans see and they eventually get sold I am sure we as a club look at them and for what ever reason we don’t buy them

    the club cant come out and say we didn’t buy that player because of x and y
    its rather annoying when they go on a are a success

  • 59 niafron // May 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    If Pard is really crual, i could even finish a Sunderland fan!

  • 60 Transfer Sage // May 24, 2014 at 12:19 PM


    definitely moses over sinclair, just thinking if sinclair on cheap be decent to replace obertan as bench warmer/back up

  • 61 Graeme // May 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Average @ 51 – thats probably the best bit of news I have seen in a long time. Maybe there is some hope of a breakthrough – or 2!!!

  • 62 Lilongwe Geordie // May 24, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    I think Moses will be available, and not too pricey. His wages would probably be the biggest stumbling block. After his season at Liverpool of not really being a starter, he would probably view Newcastle as the biggest club that would guarantee him a game at the minute though (on these shores). Worth a try, similar in terms of pace, power and athleticism to Sissoko out wide, so would possibly suit Pardew. Plus Prem experienced.

  • 63 BuckLuck // May 24, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Interesting read and I noticed one sentence I think is spot on;
    “Ashley was bitterly hurt by relegation and the reaction towards him which followed, and the way he has run the club since then reflects that.”

  • 64 niafron // May 24, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    And about Diabaté: i really hope this is a joke.

  • 65 the broons // May 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    wow seriously, someone suggested sidwell?

  • 66 the broons // May 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    why would anyone touch milner anyways, he’s like snodgrass, slow winger with average delivery.

  • 67 niafron // May 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    A famous humouristic song about Diabaté:

    A translation:

    Tell me where he’s coming from?
    One told me he’s Bordelais and a Malian international
    But i can’t figure him out
    Does he play with feet or hands?
    Is he lef handed (footed) or right handed (footed)?
    Even if you got friends in the crowd
    This not there you got to aim
    Tell me: where is your right foot?
    Tell me where is your right foot!
    If at the end of your leg, you got a foot…
    … tell me how it’s shaped
    Oh holy right foot!
    Could it be square shaped by any chances?
    Cause we do not understand lad where the ball is going!

    Where are you Cheick Diabaté
    Where are you Cheick Diabaté
    Where are you Cheick Diabaté
    Where are you, where are you Chaick Diabaté

    Who are you Cheick Diabaté
    Who are you Cheick Diabaté
    Who are you Cheick Diabaté
    Who are you, who are you Cheick Diabaté

  • 68 puretoon // May 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Basically the reason why these players are on trans list is Pardew can’t handle foreign players-good foreign players and that’s bad management. He’s totally clueless. In this day and age any manager should know how to manage ANY player be they English or foreign, but Pardew is manager by job title only. Didn’t he go mad with Graham Carr about bringing in foreign players and had the nerve to say Carr isn’t a good scout and doesn’t know good players? Bloody cheek!

    There’s nothing wrong with most of those players on that list, the wrong bit is Pardew!

  • 69 ronjohno // May 24, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    If Pardew does sanction release of MYM and Hadeira then to me this just sums him up completely.

    MYM was captain and star for France before he came here to “learn” from Pardews exceptional coaching and tactical skills.
    Remember his chairman saying he would be a fool to join Newcastle.!!!
    Colo did not set the world alight in his first season either.
    I truly believe Pardew would ruin Ronaldo and Messi if he got anywhere near them.

  • 70 mindcompressor // May 24, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    so, first as usually we try to unload players and maybe sign someone later one… than we will he on august that they were trying very hard but there was no time and maybe we will buy someone on january 🙂

    MYM and Haidara (also HBA) are quality players and I’m sure they could give us a lot if they would be managed properly…

    maybe they want to introduce good, satka or streete into first team and that’s the reason of such decision. i wonder if abeid is back to the club and train with lads… i think he deserves another chance to show himself.

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