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Clement Grenier Talking To Newcastle – He’s Keen On Move

9:51 am, Tuesday, May 27th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 190 Comments

There was a report in the People on Sunday from Alan Oliver, the former Chronicle sports reporter,  that Clement Grenier has indeed been talking to Newcastle United about a potential move to the Magpies, and this is in line with the news a couple of days ago that Newcastle were indeed back in for the talented 23 year-old  3 times capped French International, who is in the 23 man French squad for the World Cup; in Brazil next month.

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Clement Grenier – talking to Newcastle

Sources in France told People Sport the following:

“Like Cabaye, Grenier can play right-midfield, as an attacking midfielder and in the hole.” “He has been talking to the Newcastle lads at the French World Cup training camp, and he is keen to go to St James’ Park.”

“But his agent will demand wages that he feels are appropriate for a player who is going to Brazil.”

It looks like our three Frenchmen at the World Cup – Debuchy, Sissoko and Remy (and maybe Yohan  too?) are helping to get Grenier to Newcastle, and that’s always good to hear.

Wages will be the challenge for Newcastle, and we need to offer the young play-maker a decent wage to move to Newcastle, and this lad is such a promising player, we think he would be a great acquisition for the club.

And with close to £80M (it’s 60M to £100M depending essentially on the position in the Premier League) every May, our revenues will increase quite significantly.

And the £79.5M we got earlier this month is close to £40M more than we received from  the PL last year, and that’s due to the massively increased money being paid out by TV for the Premier League games over the next three years.

Newcastle should be able to increase the wage bill significantly, while keeping the wages at a constant percentage of revenues., and that’s going to be an advantage that all Premier League clubs will have over their rivals – massive TV money every year.

It seems like Newcastle still have work to go to get Grenier, but this is promising news.

We hope it’s all true.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target



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190 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    For once please let a story have some truth behind it please. Greneir and Cabella would truly sort out the midfield alongside Sissoko and Mr T.
    More importantly is the Forward department as we all know, Not exactly blessed in this position are we !!

  • 2 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Sweendog,
    From previous, don’t blame Remy?? The bloke came out and said he couldn’t be arsed to play as the game meant nothing. Tell that to Liverpool fans, tell that to the NUFC fans that paid good money to go to the match.

    Could you imagine if Liverpool had sneaked the title and Remy came out with this, saying the manager agreed not to play him cause he couldn’t be bothered. I’d be fuming if I was a City fan.

    Yeah, Ashley has his issues, and we all know them well, but while he was under contract here, and being paid very well to play football then I couldn’t give two hoots if he thinks it is a nothing game. If the club have a game and he is fit, he plays.

    Pardew again demonstrating what a weak manager he is. Is Remy going to stay because we pandered to his desires? Course not. If he didn’t want to pick him after Remy said he didn’t want to play, then come out and say the reason why, be a man and grow a pair.

    I hope the club come out and give some sort of response, and indicate if we could still be bothered to pay him seen as he couldn’t be bothered to play.

  • 3 kimbo // May 27, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    These players will only come to Newcastle as a last resort. As Remy may of said staying at Newcastle would be “stagnation”.
    Why would any decent player come to Newcastle?

  • 4 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Alan Oliver? The man who brought us exclusives of NUFC signing Ronaldo and Ronaldinho. I reckon the bloke couldn’t even tell you the truth if you asked him his name.

    Also, since when did Cabaye play right midfield? Pretty certain he has been a centre midfielder of some description all his career.

  • 5 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Kimbo
    Why did Cabs come or Tiote or Debuchy ??
    Ya know what it does my head in when Fans com eout and say “why would anyone want to come here”
    “I hope he this player don’t come because we will ruin him”
    Surely as a fan you would die to see any top player here gracing the hallowed SJP. whether that be for a season or hopefully longer

  • 6 croftus5678 // May 27, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    grenier looks the perfect player for everything we are missing in cm (he will bring weaknesses as he’s not fast and not a solid midfielder but he has a very good pass great vision a very good shot and thats everything we are missing).

    @2 lilong

    i agree m8 he’s a great player i cant take that away from him but some things are more important to me than having the best players and thats players who give all for our club and for me this just means he couldnt care less !

    we only want players who want to play for us as we dont want to go back to the owen days.

  • 7 spitfire_ // May 27, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    “But his agent will demand wages that he feels are appropriate for a player who is going to Brazil.”

    So he will not coming. Neeeeeeeeeeeeext.

  • 8 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Its a catch 22 situation for me, what I want is too see talented and ambitious players join us to take us to the next level, but with us being as unambitious as we are we will never get them to join, so if someone wants to join us then talented and ambitious cannot be them, like I say catch 22 lol

  • 9 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Croftus
    Agree mate. When we went down half the squad couldn’t give a monkeys about us and soon abandoned ship.
    As said earlier tho we all knew what we were getting when we signed him up on season long loan !

  • 10 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Croftus,
    The fact the club are still interested in signing him after he couldn’t be arsed to play makes a mockery of their past talk of why they take so long to identify targets. They always go on about having to make sure they have the right attitude, and would fit in the group.

    If they think a lad who couldn’t be bothered to play has the right attitude it beggars belief. Even more worrying is that they would apparently think he fits in with the others.

    Do I want a player with an attitude like that around the bairns coming through?? Not a chance!

  • 11 jimmysmith // May 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    I could think of only 15 European clubs that I’d say were a definite bigger and better proposition than Newcastle, and not everyone can play for them and interests them. I definitely see us as a legitimate destination for players of the calibre of Grenier and Cabella, even Remy, who might get a game at Arsenal, or Spurs or Liverpool, or might not nail own a place.

    Beautiful club Newcastle, massive support and fantastic stadium. Good players will come if competitive wages are offered and a desire shown by the owner and manager to bring them

  • 12 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    jazzyp, the players you mentioned came before a public admittance that mid table with no cup runs is what we are aiming for, if they new then what they know now it’s quite possible that they wouldn’t have came, you cannot deny that since they signed the clubs public image in terms of ambition has seriously declined, that is why we are doubtful to what if any appeal we as a club have, I believe that we are justified in having that doubt.

  • 13 kimbo // May 27, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Response to jazzyp, let us see if Tiote, Debuchy are still Toon players when we start the season. Football is an entertainment business and at present the crap dished up at St James is not fit for purpose. So please give me your reasons for any player coming to Newcastle, don`t say playing in front of the 50k occupied library as the main reason, there is no atmosphere any more!!!!!!!

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Jazzy,
    Just cause we knew he was a mercenary, doesn’t make it right. The fact Pardew didn’t come out and say it, and instead went with a line about injury makes this even more ridiculous. The club, wrongly, didn’t hang him out to dry when he did it. Now Pardew has been made to look stupid.

  • 15 Average_Contents // May 27, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    On remy

    Apparently he has a “concrete offer” from spuds and as we all know gooners n Liverpool are interested but according to “sauces” his dream move would be chelski lol don’t make me piss!

    He’s good but not in that stratosphere never mind that bracket!

  • 16 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Spoof
    If that is the case mate then Why has Cabella publically come out and said he is interested in a move to the club.
    why is Greneir talking to the French lads on a possible move to Nufc.
    Why did Ben arfa come to Newcastle when we had just been promoted from the championship. Nufc are still a big attractive club mate to a lot of good players out there.
    I agree whole heartedly with you that the Clubs image is tarnished, But I still say we are an attractive proposition for a lot of top players….Whether to be used as a stepping stone as Cabs did or not !!

  • 17 jimmysmith // May 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Also, good players have come to Newcastle in recent years and attracted the interest of bigger clubs. Cabaye and Arsenal and PSG, Remy, Debuchey, Krul, Ba, Carroll, Sissoko, Tiote, Santon, even Benny. So there’s plenty of incentive for good young players to come to Newcastle, as plenty have done successfully before them. It’s up to Ashley, Pardew and Charnley to sell the club to players but it’s really should be that hard a sell.

  • 18 jimmysmith // May 27, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Shouldnt

  • 19 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Lilongwe
    I said earlier today mate in a post that if this story is true then Pardew is as much to blame as Remy. The fans deserve better than to have players deciding they cannot be bothered to play because “there is nothing to play for”
    I have said all morning that we are better off with players that give a monkey’s about Nufc than don’t bud

  • 20 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    “wages that he feels are appropriate for a player who is going to Brazil”

    That should be fine, we just released a player who is going to Brazil and was on appropriate wages. We can just offer him Shola’s old deal.

  • 21 lesh // May 27, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Repost from thread before last:

    Yes Charlie in the Gallowgate, you made a very valid point and as was, Shola did what was asked of him.

    However much some fans deride Shola, compared with Remy, his attitude has always been commendable.

  • 22 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Kimbo
    I Agree to a certain extent regarding the atmosphere at St james park for the second half of the season, But for the first half of the season it was rocking most matches inside Sjp.
    Its the same every season if we are doing well then the atmosphere is mint,but when we are not its dire.
    You may be right on Debs leaving us but Tiote has publically come out and said he doesn’t want to go anywhere ??. Santon is another player that’s in demand by bigger clubs than ourselves, But again has recently come out and said that he wants to stay. Same with Benny as well.
    I would say there is something positive there mate wouldn’t you if our top players are wanting to stay at the club

  • 23 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Jazzy,
    There are very few players that would care about playing for NUFC. Just isn’t that sort of game anymore at this level. Would any of our players be that bothered if they were plying their trade elsewhere in the Prem? Unlikely.

    On the good players coming here, yeah, good players would still join the club, no doubt on that, but only if we are paying them what they could earn elsewhere at the very least.

    Like in most jobs, company loyalty is very rare, if you were asked to switch to a different company same job, for more money, 99% of the time people would do it.

  • 24 croftus5678 // May 27, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    the other way of looking at this is from pards point of view though ^^

    thinking about it if we dont get a striker that hits it off straight away or we dont get any striker in and remy was here what do you think the crowd would turn on pards for !

    Not playing remy instead opting to play Cisse who doesnt seem to be able to score anymore or remy who does score and earns us points but doesnt care less about us and is like you said bad for our youngsters ???

    something tells me all would be forgiven with remy after a few goals so looking at it again maybe i cant blame pards for trying his best to convince remy to sign for us ! (personaly i’m just glad remy himself is too selfish to do it so it forces us to go to other strikers)

  • 25 Dude // May 27, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Four words for Alan Oliver.

    “Wide of the mark.”

  • 26 karasu // May 27, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Not sure if you guys know, but Neil Lennon recently left Celtic. That got me imagining if Newcastle were to drop Pardew and hire Lennon. I think it’d be great. Lennon has to be a pretty impressive manager to be able to dominate the SPL for 4 years, as well as give Barcelona some panic attacks.

    It’s not wrong of me to daydream right?

  • 27 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    jazzyp, don’t take it as literal as it is our way of getting rid of our anger, we need a release, simple question for you, pretend that you don’t support us and you are a talented player who is looking for a move, Newcastle and Everton are the only clubs with a serious interest in you, who would be your first choice if all offers were equal, if you say us then sorry I just cannot believe that as Everton are far more appealing than us, and that hurts as they have no right to be more appealing than us, if it’s us or Stoke, Sunderland, West Ham or any similar club then we have a fighting chance, provided the finances are of a similar nature, but again that hurts as I feel that we should me much more appealing than them but we aren’t are we.

    Why do players say they are negotiating with us, come on m8 you know better than that, this is not a slant at us as it happens all over but a hell of a lot of players make it public knowledge to try and stimulate as much interest as possible to get themselves the best deal possible, its not out of desperation to join the mighty Newcastle United, that can happen to successful clubs, but not to the likes of us.

  • 28 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 27, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Lesh
    Cheers
    Wasn’t Shola’s greatest fan looked lazy at times – but his heart is NUFC.

    Like to see him back on the coaching staff say young uns, or as a ambassador for the club

  • 29 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Lilongwe
    I agree mate in all walks of like whether your a Brickie or a teacher then incentives are all important. After all that’s what we go to work for at the end of the day. I appreciate that footballer’s have such a short career they have to choose wisely where they are to ply there trade.
    But the biggest gripe I have with this debate is that a top footballer earns stupid amounts of money week in week out.
    If Newcastle can offer the right package to a player then I see why we can’t attract top players.
    For me personally bud if our transfer business consisted of Sidwell-Colback-Perez and Bent then there is only one way this club is truly heading

  • 30 GeordieDan // May 27, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    “It looks like our three Frenchmen at the World Cup – Debuchy, Sissoko and Remy (and maybe Yohan too?) are helping to get Grenier to Newcastle, and that’s always good to hear.”

    And what exactly will they be telling Clement?

    NUFC is a broken club with no ambition, a crack-pot, miserly owner, a half-wit manager and a crowd that beying for his blood as much as supporting whats left of a threadbare squad???

    Can’t believe he hasn’t already signed for us hearing all that!

    (Or maybe they’re just saying go there get some Prem experience and move on ASAP!-Which is probably closer to the mark and even more depressing)

  • 31 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    jimmy

    very true it should be a very easy sell, but as it currently stands can you with all honesty say that you believe that it is still an easy sell, I can’t, and that is the whole reason behind the pathetic little rants of “why would a good player come here” which get made by the likes of me, it is not too belittle the club generally, its too belittle the club for what we currently are which is not good nor appealing.

  • 32 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Would love to see grenier at Newcastle under a different manager and id say break the bank for him, i think he’d prove better thsn YC!
    Sad thing is, under Pardew, Sidwell would be a better signing! Pardew would get sidwell playing at a higher level than hed get grenier playing, under Pardew we’d have a more successfull starting eleven with players like sidwell and bent than we would if he were given grenier and lacazette

  • 33 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Spoof
    “US” lol. Nah seriously mate I see your point. But again that is because at this moment in time Everton are a better proposition than ourselves.
    For example Ya ya is on 2-300k at Man city yet he is tempted by Psg.
    Ronaldo had everything at Manure but wanted out to Real Madrid.
    Gosling has gone to Bournemouth of all places, Not for money but because he sees that Bournemouth are trying to achieve something.
    That is what Charnley have to do to attract top players…….charm offensive and a tempting Salary package and I believe we can bring in top players

  • 34 gfp13 // May 27, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    For people saying there is no atmosphere, I understand there was none at end of season. When at the Swansea game I almost felt embarrassed how quiet it was until we scored. But if we get a few signings and a decent start to season the old atmosphere will return

  • 35 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Jazzy,
    “The right incentives” And there in lies one of the major reasons why people don’t think we will sign top players. Many people don’t expect us to sign people because Ashley is thrifty to the point where it becomes damaging. We all know that is the case, we are looking to be the best club we can be “pound for pound”. So while you are correct saying good players would still join, there is the huge issue of us being competitive on the incentive side.

    I agree, if Colback, Sidwell, Perez and Bent are our business then I’d be worried. However, I don’t think we will be after Sidwell, and Villa have already said that Bent will most likely be needed at Villa – not that I think we are interested anyway. Perez will go into the development squad and Colback would be a decent squad member.

    Wouldn’t mind this German lad, although haven’t seen him play, a couple of the German lads out here have said he looks a good player, and sounds like he has the sort of attributes Pards would be looking for. Don’t want Zaha. If we are offloading Marveaux and Ben Arfa, why are we replacing him with some at best equally inconsistent and ineffective. Moses would be much better suited to a Pards team, so he would be my choice for a bit of width.

    I have no idea which players we want, or are talking to, but I wouldn’t pay heed to most of the news articles. Particularly when they are written by Alan Oliver.

  • 36 lew // May 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    imo NUFC got to be one of the greatest stepping stones there is!

    I think some of you underestimate the value of playing in front of 50k mad fans week in week out.

  • 37 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    GFP,
    The atmosphere hasn’t been at the ground since Souness arrived years ago mate. Even during the Bobby years it was on the decline.

  • 38 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    jazzyp

    exactly m8, that is what Charnley has too do and hopefully he will but it is a tough ask with the perception of how we look to others as we are, but all it takes is one superb signing and then others do sit up and take notice and wonder what is happening there, so hopefully Grenier does surprise me by signing and he then forces Cabaye out of the team in Brazil which in turn would make us more appealing than what we are as we could sell ourselves to other players as being a club who are signing the best in the world, but back to reality as I just don’t see that happening.

  • 39 Wowhatawhopper // May 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    I would love this lad, plus Cabella and I would be ecstatic how long we keep them if (touch wood) we get them is another matter but for the meantime yes please!! Also I see Leicester City are linked with Oscar Cardozo we should be going for the likes of him the lad is mustard!!

  • 40 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    I think the biggest reason the atmosphere is what it is is down to all seater stadiums, I don’t believe they are conducive to a good atmosphere, obviously splitting up singing sections is a real killer but many clubs now struggle to get the atmosphere which they once had, the sooner we have safe standing the better.

  • 41 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Spoof,
    Agreed. Part of the excitement of my first game was standing on the Gallowgate terraces. In fact, it was probably the only exciting thing that day as we drew 0-0 with Derby.

  • 42 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Spoof
    Everything is just hearsay at this moment in time as we all know pal. We are currently in the transfer merry go round lol. I know we go through this every transfer window, But it seems there is a more positive frame of mindset with what the players are saying than in previous windows.
    Whether I am setting myself up for a fall again buddy….Who knows, But I always try to look for the positives and hope for the best rather than some on here who have nothing good to say about Nufc

  • 43 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    “BREAKING NEWS”
    Scientists have used a mind altering device to make flies moonwalk !!
    Wander if we can use this on the Fat controller to spend some of his money on Nufc !!

  • 44 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Charnleys selling point should be based around international aspirations! Cabaye, Sissoko, Remy all have forced their way into the world cup squad and french squads at NUFC, theyd all had caps before signing for us but its been at Newcastle where theyve become established internationals! ( dont count debuchy because he was established in the FFF before us! Even Ben Arfa with his awful rep in france forced his way into the euro squad through performances with us!
    For players like Cabella , Lacazette and Grenier on the edges of the national squad (doubtful grenier and lacazette will get many mins at WC) Charnley should be pushing the fact that NUFC could cement their place in the future euros squad

  • 45 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Seperately, was listening to Talksport on the way home and apparantly Danny Welbeck wants to leave Man Utd as he wants to be playing every week. They where trying to work out where hed go in the PL where hed play every week and who could afford him and they came up with Sunderland or Aston Villa! Petsonally i think the only teams where he’d start that could (not would) pay 14m and where’d want to go would be newcastle or southampton! Bit surprised we’ve not been linked…
    Its another selling point tho, as we’ve got no players, we can definately offer starting places: surely would be of interest to players like Zaha, Welbeck, Townsend, Holtby etc

  • 46 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    Apparantly West Ham are in late negotiations to sign Argentina league top scorer Mauro Zarate on a free. Hes only 27. Performed well for birmingham when in PL last. Absolutely can not understand why we wouldn’t be in for him.
    Theyre also negotiating for Niang… These players would be wasted with fat sam

  • 47 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    Jayphoto
    I know we are desperate for CF’s but personally am not a massive fan……Especially at 14 mill.
    The price bracket brings you into Lacazette or Doumbia territory……..Yes please !!

  • 48 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // May 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    pleased to see this story came from the people ,chronic group as sure it wont happen. he is a larger version of marv and just as lazy and gutless. 63 shots on goal and 148 dead balls in league for along with chances of assists from open play a total of 4 goals and 5 assists. imo wont make it in prem .

  • 49 Whumpie // May 27, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    So where does it say he’s talking to Newcastle?
    Getting good ad revenues again Ed?

  • 50 JamesToon // May 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    We need both Grenier and Cabella even if ben arfa does stay.

  • 51 JamesToon // May 27, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Would also love Lacazette

  • 52 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    The one thing in our favour is that Lyon have to raise 20 mill before 20th june I think, So if the right offer comes in for Lacazette or Grenier then they will sell

  • 53 Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Jay,
    Welbeck £14million? The world has gone mad if anyone pays that. £5-8million tops. Also wouldn’t want to sign him and guarantee first team football. He should want to compete and fight for a place. I get he doesn’t want to do that as he is no match for RvP or Rooney at Man U, but the level of players we should be looking at should see him having to fight for a spot here.

    On Zarate, I read somewhere that it was all done and dusted to West Ham. Wouldn’t be keen on Niang on loan. Take time to adjust, and then by that point he is heading back to Milan.

  • 54 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    @jazzyp nah i wouldn’t really want him either, though im interested to see how he fairs over 38 starts in a season! Just shocked we weren’t even mentioned as a possible destination for him

  • 55 jazzyp // May 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Jay
    Would sooner get Ba back mate at around 5-6 mill than risk 14 big ones on Danny welbeck

  • 56 Ancientcoptic // May 27, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Pardew is finished ‘if’ we sign Grenier and Cabella – you can only send some many creative players to the knackers yard, before the chief starts wondering what is happening to his acquisitions.

  • 57 wolfshead@toon // May 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    theres more chance of danny dyer being asked to join the RSC than there is of fatty shelling out 14mill for a player

  • 58 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Grenier reminds me alot of Nasri (sans the attitude) neither him nor Cabella are the run through walls type.,,
    If we sign them Pardew will have 2 great back up plans to throw on as sub in 75 min when we’re 0-0 or losing

  • 59 Mister Tuff // May 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Well I’ve got to laugh about the Remy story -about him not being injured – but the fans were told he was.
    There was a lot of disbelieving suggestions on here about the three French lads being at Clairefontaine for treatment -so the faking it revelation has really not been a surprise -but yet a shock when it’s come from the horses’ mouth.
    So shock/horror that the Toon management lies to its’ fans also shock horror to those on here who say the manager is an honest and honourable man.
    Well it looks as if Percy “Pinocchio” Parsnip has been well and truly been caught with his pants down.
    What can be believed in the future.
    (Fellow bloggers should always be aware that those who keep on using the phrase “well if I’m honest” usually tell porky pies).

  • 60 Ancientcoptic // May 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Pantilimon is out of contract on the 1st of July…

    If it were my choice, I would be selling Krul and signing Pantilimon, putting the Krul money towards buying a much needed ‘quality’ striker.

  • 61 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    double offer for lacazette and grenier .. if its true about lyon but they are known for their hard negotiations so I don’t expect either without over paying .. personally not convinced on Grenier .. but Cabella, Grenier, Lacazette, Lasogga .. Zaha, .. then that would be our forward attack sorted .. a couple of quality squad players CB, RB .. and maybe Mendy to help out in Midfield in case Tiote is injured after the world cup .. pre Ashley this would be very achievable .. as jimmysmith said we are a big draw .. to good young French players especially

  • 62 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Ooh chelsea loaning out Zouma next year! We could save a fortune and just loan Zouma, Marin, Moses, van ginkel and Lukaku! Season sorted

  • 63 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    jayphoto .. some excellent players there .. zouma would be good .. moses .. of course lukaku but he’s staying I reckon

  • 64 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    mind you if we get loan players they should be deemed secondary to 1st teamers .. as per this Remy debate .. unless theres a pre contract on performance

  • 65 wolfshead@toon // May 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    tuffers
    i remember us having a chat about this remy story last month i cant blame him really why try for a non trying club?

  • 66 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Honestly think Chelseas way of getting round FFP is by signing worldclass youngsters, for a large fee for youngster, sending them to clubs with history of developing players, letting said clubs establish them and then selling them for mega money so they can buy the players they want.
    Can see Lukaku being loaned to Athletico before being sold the season after for 30m, think Zoumas career will mirror lukakus. same with Van Ginkel. They did a similar thing with De Bruyne too. Mourinho doesnt ever develop young players! He signs proven complete footballers with a taste for winning

  • 67 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Anyone read the quotes from debuchy .. Basically saying pardew keeps him more defensive whereas in France he is more attacking .. Hope pardew sorts this out as plays wing backs as wing backs

  • 68 Average_Contents // May 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Sweendog

    I seen it earlier mate

    “I was frustrated because the coach (Alan Pardew) asked me to stay back, while in the France team the coach tells me to stay high (up the pitch).

    “If you do not attack enough, people will say that you do not do enough offensively and if you go up too much, they will say you are not defensively sound.

  • 69 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    Think Debuchy will get to attack next year! Expect Pards to go 5-3-2 with debuchy and santon as wing backs! Worked against cardiff and we didnt get hammered against liverpool! He never changes a formula he thinks is working! Hes under pressure from the off and depending on the fixture list will be desperate to avoid any big defeats! Iv no doubt we’ll start out a back 5 with tiote sissoko and anita in midfield and try to grind out the first results

  • 70 AaranD // May 27, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Problem with Pardew is that he is so afraid of losing that he would sacrifice winning to achieve it.

  • 71 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM

    jayphoto@66

    I said the same thing the otherday
    did you see the sunday supplement on sunday morning they were discussing it was interesting they have quite a few they have paid around 8-10 mill for and are starting to sell them
    they have bought in over 100 mill this year just selling debrune luiz mata, I think they will sell lakaku this year.
    Chelsea had 30 players out onloan last season

    its a great income for them if they get it right

  • 72 Mister Tuff // May 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM

    wolfshead – fair point -probably Remy was wanting to make sure he is in the shop window at the WC. But the disturbing thing is that the club have gone along with this deception, a deception against all their fans.
    It -to me illustrates -the apparent ease -of lying. What other lies have been told -in newspaper articles,radio chats, Fans Forums etc etc.
    Fans should be assured of honesty from the club -I mean its a football club -not a scientific research establishment trying to protect priceless secrets – it also gives credence to those on here, and elsewhere, who doubt things that the club says.

  • 73 Mister Tuff // May 27, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Have a couple of crocks playing at centre backs -Colo and Willo -is probably the reason that Percy “Pinocchio”Parsnip does not want the fullbacks to venture too far up field – keeping them back givse extra protection -but the converse is that it attracts pressure on us.
    Parking the bus tactics -well what a surprise.

  • 74 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    wolfhead

    why the lie
    any normal person would have told him to pack his bags and go back to London, then when asked pardew should have just said he has said he didn’t want to play
    its not like we owe him anything he was never gonna sign for us

  • 75 nut meg // May 27, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    Debuchy is saying that he’s frustrated at being told by Pardew not to attack. The article is in the mag.

  • 76 nut meg // May 27, 2014 at 1:01 PM

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/mathieu-debuchy-reveals-frustration-pardew-orders-attack/?

  • 77 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Mister tuff .. He needs a cb with pace but doesn’t mess up .. Ideally what mym was bought for .. Whatever the reason mym doesn’t look good for this role .. You need a strong tactical player like collo .. But with pace and aerial ability ..

  • 78 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    Don’t understand this about Remy .. It’s not the first time players are pandered to before a world cup .. Michael Owen comes to mind .. The problem we have I reckon is Remy is so blatant and why was he not signed up .. Maybe this highlights that he isn’t dependable .. He didn’t really set QPR alight

  • 79 Jail for Ashley // May 27, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    Good afternoon,
    I wonder what spin our departed apologist would put on the Remygate lie, it wasn’t lying just perhaps misleading from a business point of view, but you wouldn’t understand that !
    Lew,
    ”I think some of you underestimate the value of playing in front of 50k mad fans week in week out”
    Really, have you been to a match lately, Crystal fcuking Palace outsung us as did Swansea.

  • 80 wolfshead@toon // May 27, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    beer

    i think pardew still had delusions of keeping remy that and the fact he has to lie for the regime so often he doesnt know what the truth is anymore he must feel that nufc is like north korea

  • 81 Mister Tuff // May 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    sweendog – I would argue that if we had that type of CB -tall,good in the air, commanding -that Mbwia -could be the appropriate partner.
    It is really difficult to get a decent impression of players when they are played out of position, have to follow non attacking tactics (which might be opposite to their natural game) -plus not having “specialists” in all positions to me does make it difficult to make a quality assessment. Or put it another way as a few on here in the past -made reference to all parts of the jigsaw not being in place. The whole set up is a mess -and should have been sorted out before now.

  • 82 Sazzer // May 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Soccer Sauce ?@soccer_sauce
    Sunderland have made official enquiries for Éver Banega over the weekend #SAFC

  • 83 Mister Tuff // May 27, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    The other thing to me about the Debuchy non attack revelations is that it is in direct conflict to what Percy ” Pinocchio” Parsnip spouts about his teams always playing to win/being on the front foot etc etc.

  • 84 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    For me Pardew should have been under any illusions with Remy! Hes given us very little encouragement of signing for us since xmas and his agent has been touting him across europe since we signed him!
    Worried the club will use Remy as an excuse for missing signings tho as he wont move until august, club may make out that remy was top target!
    Said before, Im not really a remy fan, sure he got some goals but his performances where never great. Scored 4 or 5 because of other teams errors too, not a game changing player who can impose himself.

  • 85 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Mister tuff there were mistakes last season but don’t forget the start of last year mym messing up willo brought in and we were 6 .. Until Christmas .. Hopefully we will push on, get the attackers we need and start playing like the start of last season or better .. Gotta stay positive

  • 86 Big Pappa Cissé // May 27, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    Fair play to Debuchy for speaking out against Pardew and his defensive tactics .

    I find it absolutely laughable that he works on our defence so much yet we concede more than ever .

    Work that one out ? .

  • 87 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:24 PM

    Jayphoto agreed .. No doubting he’s a good player .. World class is still debatable .. After this spat he has definitely burned his bridges but what top team wants a player like that .. Not too many

  • 88 cyprus // May 27, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    So that dude was getting 80,000 a week by us and he faked an injury for a game ‘that meant nothing’? First things first: you owe us 80 k kid. Second: can’t the FA and/or NUFC do something about this? Damages etc. What a w——.

  • 89 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Cyprus this happens all the time in football ..what is different here is Remy is looking like a numpty by telling everyone .. Who said footballers are smart

  • 90 cyprus // May 27, 2014 at 1:29 PM

    True that! Next: Debs reveals AP defensive tactics. I thought we played on the front foot, I heard somewhere :)

  • 91 AndyNUFC // May 27, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    A little bemused people are turning out now to say “Remy wasn’t all that” just because he won’t be staying… Sour grapes?

    Anyway just wanted to come here and let off some steam about Pardew. You would have a list as long as your arm of things he’s done to make the fans look like mugs.

    He knows Dan Gosling is leaving on a free but persists playing him (and starting against Man U at home) instead of giving a kid a chance when we’re safe or trying to repair the rift with Ben Arfa. Then lies so blatantly to our fans that Remy was injured – if he just said the guy doesn’t want to stay and couldn’t make the effort for the game then I’d actually have some credibility for him – but no, more protection for people who are clearly just harming the club.

    So Mike, any chance of someone respectable who can come in, I hear Chris Hughton is available?…

  • 92 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    Cyprus agreed .. I’m no supporter of pardew, he did do well in short patches, but on the whole its a disaster .. I’d love an attacking manager or someone like de Boer

  • 93 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    wolfhead

    cant believe pards is so naïve
    I would have hung remy out to the fans and prospective employers

    just read the mag article would rather read the whole thing rather than a quote from it we don’t know the question so could be taken out of context

    unless he wants out I don’t think he would rock the boat with pardew, I am sure cabaye at time was frustrated by the defending tactics he has left has he complained

    I wouldn’t read to much into till I can read the whole thing

  • 94 theartfuldodger // May 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    Rumours , rumours and more rumours …

    I see its been a while since the dreadful football has stopped..people becoming positive hearing names mentioned in the papers…

  • 95 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    Andyfc .. Remy is a good player .. World class .. Don’t think so ..he still could be but he’d need a team like us to play him all the time .. If he went to arsenal or Liverpool now I think he won’t achieve this ..as in all things footie related everyone has their own opinion

  • 96 jimmysmith // May 27, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    Newcastle were a highly competitive side with Cabaye playing, that’s one player, so really you’re looking at replacing him and now Remy. What good young player wouldn’t seriously consider an offer to replace one of them, especially if assurances are made regarding wages and signings. Newcastle are 4 to 5 signings away from being an improved side on the one that started last season, and that was a good side.

  • 97 Rotonda heights // May 27, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    GOOD OLD PARDEW

    MATHIEU Debuchy has admitted his frustration at the start to his Newcastle United career.

    And the right-back feels the style of play at United has not helped his international form for France, who he is about to represent in the World Cup.

    Debuchy joined Newcastle from Lille in January last year, and he had to adapt quickly to the pace and power of English football after being pitched into an intense Premier League relegation battle.

    However, the attack-minded player has claimed the different tactics he was given by club and country “frustrated” him.

    Debuchy told L’Equipe: “I was a little frustrated, because the coach (United manager Alan Pardew) asked me to stay behind, while for France the coach told me to stay high.

    “If you do not go up enough, people will say that you do not bring enough offensively, and if you go up too much, they will say that you are not calm defensively.

    “That’s why there will always be critics, (but) I still have to make progress on some points.”

  • 98 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Jimmysmith .. Well said

  • 99 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    One thing I hope they get on cabayes replacement is a player with a bit of fire needed for the premiership .. Cabaye had this .. Hope cabella/Grenier have this as it was this, and his skills on the ball that made him an excellent player

  • 100 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    I wonder will we get cabaye back on loan .. Talk of toure etc at PSG so even though its nuts it could be worth a bet

  • 101 Macas // May 27, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    I see everyone is using what Debuchy said as another excuse to slag off Pardew.
    What he actually meant was that when he first came he was asked not to push on too much – ‘I was a little frustrated (in my first season at Newcastle) because the coach asked me to stay behind while for France, the coach told me to stay high’.
    That’s because we were in a relegation scrap at the time.
    Anyone who has actually watched Debuchy this season will know that he doesn’t stay back at all.

  • 102 Charlie in the Gallowgate // May 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    Remy
    Got me in a MUCKIN FUDDLE
    now saying that Newcastle want to buy him and doesn’t know if he wants to stay

    ‘In an interview with sports daily L’Equipe, Loïc Rémy describes his feeling about his situation:

    “Sign for a big English club? The World Cup is a showcase for me.

    “Newcastle, to whom I was lent to by QPR, wants to buy me. I do not know if I’ll stay there.

    “I’m at a turning point in a pivotal year. It can be all guns blazing or stagnation. Since the beginning of the year, apart from injury, it has been good. And when I am in a good place, I think I can hurt teams,” warns the French international .

    Especially since he has only played very little late in the season for Newcastle, “The coach Alan Pardew understood my point of view. We had nothing to play for. I did not want to risk getting hurt again,” he added’

    Don’t understand why he is saying this if he is desperate to be away

  • 103 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Think the reason we played better with Remy wasn’t remy himself but the fact we had a player with pace on the field forced teams to sit deeper against us and stretched the play. We have powerhouses in midfield like tiote and sissoko that then had more space to power forward whereas when the midfield is flooded they lack the technique and can be error prone under pressure.
    Similar situation to Obertan actually! We have a really low loss percentage surprisingly in games hes played (he played alot when we came 5th)
    The mere pace alone causes teams to set up differently and pace is something we desperately lack

  • 104 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    Whats more worrying about the debuchy interview is that we concede that many when set up defensively…
    Dread to think what back 4 would look like if we attacked

  • 105 lesh // May 27, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Of course Grenier’s agent’ll be looking for top money for his client.

    Grenier’s a top player and the sooner Ashley acknowledges that such players demand top money and they’ll go to a club that’s willing to offer that.

    Ashley can’t afford to let players who should enhance the side go elsewhere for the sake of his principles.

    He’s not offering contracts to some far eastern sweatshop that’ll do his work for next to nowt – they’re ten a penny.
    Top players aren’t!

  • 106 TurkishFan101 // May 27, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Afternoon,

    Just wanted to come on to post this specific article, enjoy.

    http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/2014/05/27/dont-blame-ashley-blame-pardew/

  • 107 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    all this talk of grenier and cabella good talented players
    but if they take a 6mnths a year to settle as do a lot of foreign players do we could be in dire shit by then

    I don’t know why were not looking at some1 like lewis holtby did well out onloan and any new manager there is gonna have to use the 100mill of talent they bought so levy don’t lose face so holtby is well down the pecking order and they got him on a free so I bet 6 7 mill would buy him complete with prem experience

  • 108 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    When players refuse to play they usually get fined, has Remy been fined ?

  • 109 santonthenewmaldini // May 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    @beermonkey

    That is what I worry about it took Pardew almost 2 seasons to work out that a midfield 3 of Tiote , Anita and Cabaye would be awesome when most people could see that it would work 442 will not work with these players if we get them as will not launching it long at every opportunity !

    Holtby would be a great signing for us can play wide or in the middle, can actually take a set piece and can score goals would not be that expensive either

    Will be interesting to see who we sign Sidwell would not be a bad free transfer as experienced back up but no way Ashley will have a 31 year old getting good wages for being a squad player which is why we will never progress under Ashley

    Only had to look at the effect Gareth Barry had for Everton its not just experience on the pitch it will be leadership in the dressing room etc that an old head can bring now with Shola gone we only really have Colo as the old head

  • 110 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    @beermonkey – lot of talk from Fulham fans was that holtby was lazier than Berbatov for them! Stood around waiting for the ball! Looked good in highlights because he threaded nice passes and went close from 25 yards a few times but generally just stood around alot!
    Id have a go for mitroglou tho based on his champions league and international form! Came to fulham injured i think? Id take hangeland for a season too hes a mega version of willo

  • 111 Jail for Ashley // May 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Turkish,
    I really don’t see your point with that article, it’s nothing that hasn’t been written on here a thousand times and the whole crux of his point is don’t blame Ashley, which is a complete contradiction in its self as he’s the one who won’t sack him ?

  • 112 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Id take Barry in a heartbeat! He out performed everyone of our midfield consistently last season! Calm head, leadership, experience… Be worth a 2 year deal

  • 113 mindshaft // May 27, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    @Spoof – Remy didn’t refuse to play, he stated that he asked Pards if he could miss the game as he didnt want to risk getting injured and the game meant nothing…. Pards agreed to his request!!!!

    Beggars belief

  • 114 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    santon

    the midfield when Anita is in it has never been awesome, Anita only got an extended run when Cabaye was sold and we were very poor from that point onwards, remember some were saying that Cabaye would not be missed as we already had a replacement with Anita, I was doing my ends when hearing that as Anita had always been woeful and he continued to be, Tiote and Sissoko with another playmaker and we have a chance, but Anita is niether a DM nor a playmaker, he is just woeful, plain and simple, 30/40 sideways or backwards passes which find there mark with 2/3 forward passes which gives possession away is all you ever get from him, an absolutely shocking player.

  • 115 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    jayphoto

    good point I only ever see holtby on motd and they at times make us look good
    but I know a few spurs that and the rate him quite highly

  • 116 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    beermonkey

    I tend to agree with jayphoto about Holtby, I’m not sure if its laziness or whether he lacks a bit of pace and urgency which can look similar, but either way I feel he hasn’t got the speed or urgency to excel in the PL.

  • 117 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    spoof

    you both could be right my main concern is in signing the foreigners with high potential is if they don’t hit the ground running its going to be no different to where we are at the moment

  • 118 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    We all come across some very poor articles, but this one has got me baffled, are they serious or is it a wind up, I have read it now about 6 times and I still don’t know if its a wind up or whether they are just completely mad.

    http://astralfootball.com/alan-pardew-preparing-to-take-on-tottenham-and-arsenal-in-transfer-market/29477?

  • 119 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Sports Direct Arena, ffs ?

  • 120 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    That has to be one of the worst reports ever ?

  • 121 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    spoof

    I stopped reading when I read battling it out for the like of sidwell and zaha
    I am sure both those players are the missing part of the puzzle to make them champions
    its not even worth reading

  • 122 catchy in norway // May 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    spoof

    im pretty sure you don’t watch us,,

    as far as I can remember, Anita got MOTM many times for us playing in the centre,

    for me he is as good a player if not better than most of our current MF options, he is neat and tidy, tries to play the ball forward, puts his foot in, and never stops running,

    for me he just needs a run in the team in one position, not switched around in different ones or subbed first,

    that is something I hate with most managers, and especially pardew, he makes the same subs regardless, like keeping Jonas on and taking HBA off, right now, gouffy should have been subbed many times first, but no it was the likes of anita, santon , HBA,,

    most of the time the players know who is having a bad game, as do the fans, why does pardew see it so differently ?

  • 123 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    beermonkey

    that is a concern for all of us but Holtby to me would be a panic buy, I would rather take the risk and go for Grenier or Cabella, they may prove not to be PL class which is the case with MYM, Vurnon Anita and Sylvain Marveaux, but then again if they turn out to be like Tiote or Cabaye then we are on to a winner which Holtby to me isn’t, why take a player who is average at best when you could possibly get a real gem ?

    By the way, I did say I owe you a pint for getting me the stream for the Tenerife game, but after watching it I now believe that you owe me a pint for making me watch it, it was aweful m8 lol

  • 124 Average_Contents // May 27, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    I agree spoof

    We’re ready to rival the big guns in the transfer market then mention Steve sidwell and zaha lol! Both shite! I’d take lasoggo though mate

    And they get it wrong again by saying we want champions league (which would be nice in the long term) but we just want to compete with the sides around us in the league and compete in the cups! And some signings to push us on! Is that too much to ask for? Obviously it is!

  • 125 beermonkey // May 27, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    spoof

    I didn’t watch it but our new striker was on the left wasn’t he

    that’s why pards wants him he is versatile

    we will call it quits for now

  • 126 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    I think its worth taking a risk for a few championship players too, its probably the 4th strongest league in europe on average of all teams in the league. Heard Will hughes is nailed on for liverpool but Bamford looked decent, Rhodes has looked decent for years! The man utd lad that was at leicester, Drinkwater looked decent too! Theres plenty of talent in there, and itd come cheaper than 16m 80k p/w grenier or godknows how much in agent fees and wages Gomis!

  • 127 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Heard Real Madrid were in for Ayoze Perez? Im wary of players we beat Real Madrid too.,., if reports are to be believed, players that signed for us over Real Madrid include Marcelino, Vuckic and JJ Hooper….

  • 128 catchy in norway // May 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mathieu-debuchy-reveals-frustration-not-7176375

    is this debuchy making waves,

    LMAO

    idiots who support Pardew,

    firstly, BA colo cabaye question pardews tactics

    ALL 3 WANTED OUT

    Loic remy did not play in the last game because he wanted to protect himself for the WC, pardew grants his wish, has remy just pulled the wool over pardews eyes for the weeks leading up to the end of the season with fake injuries, ??
    in other words taking the pssss out of him

    HBA kept quiet even though he was being scape goated hung out to dry, until the last few games, where he could see the crowd were on his side, and he openly took the psssss out of pardew

    sissoko, hamstring injury, ??? come out and says he had a good rest to get ready for the WC,

    taking the pssss out of pardew

    now debuchy , openly questioning pardews tactics,

    yeh right,, he runs a nice tight ship there, if you ask me the French players are and have been playing pardew like a chump ,

  • 129 Toonfan8 // May 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    jayphoto
    4th strongest league in Europe? make me laugh…Spanish,German,Italian,English thats only 4 which are better by miles,then you have Netherland,Russia,Portugal,France all of them better than championship…

  • 130 catchy in norway // May 27, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Spoof

    how can you say that those players are not prem class??

    not sure about MYM, but the other 2 have been voted MOTM many times on this very site,

    and while he has done some strange things, MYM is far better than both Williamson and saylor

    your a strange boy

  • 131 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    @toonfan8 i agree the strongest teams in those leagues are better, but i think 5th place and down from holland and portugal are weaker than bottom half of the championship! Same with teams from about 8th down in russia and france! In the championship you get a conpetitive game every week of the season, in other european leagues you get one every 4 or 5 games

  • 132 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    catchy

    he does try to play the ball forward as you say but he fails, yes he does run and run but it is usually around in circles, yes he does put his foot in to tackle but he doesn’t win the ball, you claim all he needs is an extended run, are you for real, he played the last 15/20 games on the bounce, how long do you expect an extended run to be, he is hopeless, what on earth are you watching as it simply isn’t Newcastle United, you are totally from a different playing field, so are so far wrong that I am amazed, he is shocking, Gosling now at Bournemouth for pities sake player the last few but done more than Anita, at least he was running into space and trying to unsettle defenders which is more than what Anita did, and no I am not suggesting that Gosling is a superstar, he ain’t, he is what he is, a Bournemouth player, but he is a hell of a lot better than Anita.

    The worst ever Newcastle performance that I have witnessed came from Anita, away to Stoke this season when playing as a wing back, bearing in mind he started as a fullback but now a DM it is a role which he should be able to adapt to, not once did he make a forward pass which found his man and defensively due to the lack of ability going forward Eric Pieters their fullback got forward at will and alongside Anautivic(or whatever he is called) had free reign, Anita did not help to defend, it was clearly the worst performance that I have ever witnessed, and the truth is his best performance is not to disimiliar to his worst, he is woeful, if you seriously believe that Anita is a good player then you are sadly beyond help, there is nothing good in his game.

  • 133 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    beermonkey

    we aren’t quits, you done me a good turn, so I still owe you a pint, how much is water these days, tap water that is none of this expensive bottled stuff mind, who do you think I am, Rockafella lol

  • 134 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Ok catchy

    the truth is your so beyond help that I can’t be bothered with you, au revoir !

  • 135 sweendog // May 27, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    Spoof I’m not as strong as you on Anita but he has been poor .. He’s neither a DM or rb anymore. .. If only he could tackle but part of that is his size ..that’s one reason I’m worried about the Mendy link but he seems to have a good strong tackle on him

  • 136 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    catchy@128

    what point are you trying to make, most people including me feel that Alan Pardew should be sacked, can you not see that you are preaching to the converted, wind your neck in, can you not see how foolish you are making yourself look.

    catchy gets annoyed with Pardew, we all follow catchy and agree with him, so what does catchy do, he slags us off for not wanting rid of Pardew even though we do, like I say, wind your neck in strange boy.

  • 137 kevymartins // May 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    I wonder if Sissoko/Remy/Grenier will play tonight. Grenier is a we gem like. Would take him over cabella every day of the week. Just a better all round player.

  • 138 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    sweendog

    I saw Anita playing for Ajax and he was ok, nothing spectacular but ok, however Ajax were dominant so it is easier to look good in a dominant side, defensively he has been caught out here, which is not a surprise in fairness to him as a defensive midfielder for Ajax would probably not have too much defending to do, but its going forward which has really got by back up with him, all I see is a simple 5/10 yard sideways or backwards pass, I don’t know what his pass % is but I bet it is extremely high, but the passes which count are the ones going forward and sadly he is shocking, again I don’t know what the stats say about assists, but I doubt they are good, but again assists stats can mislead, if a good winger puts in a really good service to good strikers he may have an assist per game, but with poor strikers the very same winger could get 3/4 assists a season, would that make him a good or poor winger, assists can and usually do mislead, and with his Ajax performances I feel that we have been very much mislead. He is a poor player.

  • 139 mindshaft // May 27, 2014 at 4:30 PM

    Shola in Nigeria squad to play sweaty socks tomorrow – hope he gets some game time and a goal, be good if he went to world cup

  • 140 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    to play sweaty socks, who are sweaty socks and how did that name come about ?

    I must be too old for this new language ! don’t comment cheeky b—–d’s lol

  • 141 Jail for Ashley // May 27, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    catchy/Rotonda,
    We know Pardew is a cnut, ffs man the pair of you !

  • 142 Jail for Ashley // May 27, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    What idiots that support Pardew, who ?

  • 143 jayphoto // May 27, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    Think sholas nailed on for WC, Nigeria have no other striker that can hold the ball up and run the clock down not to mention he takes one hell of a penalty!
    Hated seeing him roll on for us in the 60th minute but ive said before, if NuFC had to shola who plays for nigeria hed play week in week out! The lad went stagnate at newcastle, should have left 4/5 yearshe plays for nigeria with vigour and enthusiasm and passion! international football is slower too which suits his game/lungs

  • 144 lochinvar // May 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    So Remy didn’t want to play against L’pool and Pardew agreed because WE (? – I don’t recall agreeing to that – I always played to win so first is always MY target, second is not an option ) had targeted 10th ?

    Charnley – please confirm WOR target ( because we are all in this together ) to Pardew, coaches, players and fans for next season – FIRST sounds about right – that’s “the target” where we actually finish is part of the fun ?! There is no other way !

  • 145 kevymartins // May 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    @Jayphoto Nigeria have more strikers but just don’t select them for some reason? I would have Obafemi Martins over Shola in my team like.

  • 146 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Remy admits frankly that he wasn’t injured and didn’t want to risk his World Cup chances for the likes of us.
    He claims Pardew saw his point of view.
    If so, why did Mr “Trust Me” tell the fans this after the game.

    “Loic was injured – he didn’t train all week.
    “He’d hurt his ankle in the game. He turned it. If you see the video (of the Cardiff City game), he’s limping around for the last five minutes.
    “That was it. That was a blow. If we’d have had him out there, we might have won.”

    One of these two men must therefore be a liar, liar, pants on fire.

  • 147 Graeme // May 27, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Spoof – “Sweaty Socks” = Jocks
    rhyming slang

  • 148 toon kk // May 27, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    Not sure what the big deal is about Remy not wanting to play our last game? You can’t blame him, there’s no point getting injured with the world cup coming up.
    Remember he’s not our player and wants to play for a club with ambition.
    I say good luck to him, he kept us in the premier league.

  • 149 Online Guy // May 27, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    Imagine being a Football Manager and having your name entered into the Oxford English Dictionary, as a new word , a new word added to the wide vocabulary of English Language .

    Seems that’s what is about to happen, and our great Manager has achieved it

    Pardewed. = definition : To render a footballer or sportsman, of previous top class ability ….to be ….

    Useless and incapable.

    Pardewed .

    And I believe the term Pardewed was first written on this blog ..who was it ..?

    WE do have a useless Manager lad’s , anyone that can send his team out and loose 14 out of 18 games has to be clueless and useless.

    And not score in 13 of those games ..!

    Can you imagine Pardew’s Kid’s, looking through the Oxford English, and seeing Daddy’s name in there. ..Pardewed =To render a player useless !

    What an honour .

  • 150 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    toon kk,

    That is a fair point. He did.
    So why didn’t Pardew just say what you have just said, instead of saying something else?

  • 151 toonking // May 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    why does anyone give a fcuk about remy, weather it was injury or not, the fact we did know is remy was leaving this summer, so what pardew does is keeps the dressing room calm and just leave remy out.

    yes he should have played armstrong this season but with an atmosphere like it was a team in shock after the january transfer window and an owner that will see armstrong as the perfect chance to avoid spending money on strikers. basically the risk out number the rewards.

    shola starting was likely down to the fact this season would be his last season, he had his enemies but he also had his fans and the thing we all agree on is he is a black and white player. so he deserved his last few starts IMO.

  • 152 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    toonking,

    That is a fair point too.
    Anyone could agree with that.
    So why did Pardew give the explanation he did?

  • 153 toonking // May 27, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    BandB
    all managers would do it. he has the choice really does he
    A) just end the conversation their and then saying “remy is injured”
    or
    B) say to the press we not playing remy as he wants to stay fresh for the world cup, then get masses of questions by the press asking him why remy doesn’t want to play for us, is he still remaining next season, who will we be looking to sign as a replacement….

    which route would you take.

  • 154 toon kk // May 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Band B
    our whole club is run full of mystery and lies.
    Nothing surprises me any more.

  • 155 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    Jail

    please m8 can you do yourself a favour and just forget about it m8, for a while there were a few me being one of them who thought that Pardew should continue as manager, but times, circumstances and conditions change so you have got to go with what is best for the club at present, and most do now agree that Pardew isn’t it, but some fans are so secular that they hunt for comments which they can twist and turn to make it sound as if’s its a defence of Pradew of some sort, they are a very sad people who really still haven’t seen the obvious fact that there whims are now redundant, they really do need to move on but they still cannot see that, they are as they are, but for yourself it would probably be best just to not bother, mind having said all of that it’s a bit rich coming from me as I do from time to time still bite at them, so Jail, next time I bite will you do me a favour and tell me to shut up because they aren’t worth it. Cheers mate.

  • 156 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    In your eagerness to claim “there’s nothing to see here” you have left yourself trying to defend two irreconcilable points.
    I agree with you. Remy had reasons not to play. Pardew had reasons not to rock the boat.
    So why did he give the explanation he did. That Remy was crocked.
    Because your argument ends up being. “I don’t give a ***k if Pardew lies to me.”
    Which is an okay position for you to take. But are you really arguing that everyone else should be so perversely blinkered?

  • 157 Ian Toon // May 27, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    What infernal serpent
    Has lent you his forked tongue?
    From what pit of foul deceit
    Are all these whoppers sprung?

  • 158 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    Hey up Ian!
    How’s tricks.

  • 159 toonking // May 27, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    BandB
    have you not followed newcastle long enough to know that whilst in this ashley era lies are everywhere and the worst time of all is during the transfer window.

    basically pardew doesn’t know what will happen in the transfer window and he will be getting sick of being made to look like a lier for what he says about transfers, so what he decided to do this time was just avoid getting into transfer talk by using the injury as an excuse.

    no wonder ashley can frustrate fans all the time, this lie about remy shows you get wound up easy.

  • 160 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    toonking,

    I am applying cold logic to this argument. Which is what Pardew does every time he asks you to swallow an eel for him.
    There is a long tradition on this blog of people tying themselves in the most embarrassing of knots trying to defend statements that would stump the most brilliant of defense lawyers.
    Believe what you can worrit yourself into swallowing. I am serene about it.

  • 161 the broons // May 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    not a chance

  • 162 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    Graeme, thank you for the sweaty socks, jocks ? lol

  • 163 Graeme // May 27, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Spoof, your welcome mate lol

  • 164 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    BandB

    @156 it was said that Pardew had reasons to not rock the boat, now I do apologise as I haven’t read the debate in its full, so as far as the Pardew aspect goes whether that be you or you making a quote I’m not sure, but what are the reasons given, whether yours or someone else’s

  • 165 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Graeme

    thankyou for that, but we will fall out if you regularly send me sweaty socks lol.

  • 166 toonking // May 27, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    BandB
    i know it’s not good to be lied to but i’ve evolved into a life where lies are everywhere because well they are FACT.

    A. the government makes promises time and time again which never ever come.

    B. the newspapers put absolute rubbish into their papers just to sell them

    C. people tell lies to try and prove themselves not guilty of things.

    just as many lies are told by players every season and by faking injuries and diving.

    my parents always told me the best thing to do is make it go in one ear and out the other because the truth is they are just words or acting.

  • 167 Tsunki // May 27, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    Well you are correct, Monsieur L’Agent, he will be going to Brazil. He will also hopefully be coming back from Brazil. But a lot of things could and couldn’t happen during the time between, your big has some work to do to justify his selection and his ensuing price tag. Bon Chance in attempting to slide your chicken-counting philosophy past fat mike.

  • 168 Tsunki // May 27, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    Toonking @166 – sorry but I don’t believe you.

    FACT!

  • 169 manxpie // May 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Looks like shola or Nigeria wont be goin to the world cup there investigating match fixing in the Scotland game
    Just sholas luck lol

  • 170 Tsunki // May 27, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Your big? Your BOY.

  • 171 Tsunki // May 27, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    I believe the father of one of the Nigerian delegation, the late Minister for Public Works, had just recently passed away, and had put a large sum of money earmarked for road-building to one side, and the son was innocently trying to get one of the Scotland contingent to put it safely in his bank account for a while.

  • 172 scout // May 27, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    Mike will get them over the line lads fear not.

  • 173 scout // May 27, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    THE MONEY WAS SIMPLY RESTING IN MY ACCOUNT

  • 174 toonking // May 27, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    well shola is one person i will not ask for lotto numbers. He must be walking under a ladder everyday

  • 175 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    toonking,

    It is a sad fact of life that those who love and trust you are the easiest to deceive.
    Why shouldn’t people come on here to talk about the players we might buy, the challenges our club may rise too?
    Wealth and power put people in a position to lie and get away with it. It doesn’t mean we have to condition ourselves to accept it.
    If we do, we are devolving, not evolving.

    Spoof. I have read that comment though and through. Could you explain it again?

  • 176 GeordieTwo // May 27, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Good news mates! We’re looking at several free agents (even Sidwell) so that wor beloved owner won’t have to spend too much.

  • 177 GeordieTwo // May 27, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Spoofy, I also have some sweaty socks I can send you mate.

  • 178 GeordieTwo // May 27, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    I also have more advice for welshie when he’s available.

  • 179 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    G2

    I’m pleased you keep sorting out Welshie on a nightly basis.
    Because if you didn’t, he’d have died of neglect by now.

  • 180 Novocastrian66 // May 27, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Why is anyone shocked that the reason given for a player not playing was a supposed injury when the real reason was something else. This has gone on for years.

  • 181 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Novo,

    Can I recap your point, please?
    Lying, if part of a established system of custom and practice, is a fine by you?
    Don’t answer. I already know.

  • 182 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    BandB

    sorry m8 I do apologise, basically it was suggested that Pardew had no reasons to rock the boat as far as Remy not playing was concerned, now that is wrong as we paid a fee for the full season which included the Liverpool game, we paid for him to play against Liverpool so he should have played, the reason I was unsure was that I am not sure as to whether it was your thought or someone else’s thought about Pardew not rocking the boat. Its the Pardew not rocking the boat aspect which interests me, is that your input or someone else’s.

  • 183 Spoof // May 27, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Novo, indeed it has, and Newcastle as a club has always failed, but that doesn’t make it right does it. ?

  • 184 GeordieTwo // May 27, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Ta BandB. I try to look after wor fellow bloggers. They’re out there waiting for good news from the club for a change. Possibly the owner has been arrested? Pardew had an accident and is unavailable for next season? Some of the club money fell out of Ashley’s pocket and was given to Charnley by mistake? These are all exciting possibilities to look forward to.

  • 185 welshgeordie9 // May 27, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    hello everyone it’s my first time on this blog so please be nice to me

  • 186 toonarmydownsouth // May 27, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/9328272/tottenham-have-announced-that-mauricio-pochettino-is-to-take-charge

    Take note Cashley
    They weren’t happy with how the season went despite a top 6 finish
    They weren’t happy the playing style despite a good win %

    So they identified several targets, went for the one top of there list and have it sorted 2 weeks after the seasons finished

    We on the other hand seemingly hand out chance after chance…..

  • 187 tequilamag // May 27, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140527/statement-from-alan-pardew_2281670_3862309?

    Not a resignation,

  • 188 BandB // May 27, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Spoof,

    Several posters have already deployed the argument that goes: “Hey, come on, is this really so bad? They lie to us. We like it.
    “So can we get back to talking about the £60m we are going to spend on transfers now, please?
    “As all this negativity makes my little tummy feel proper poorly.”
    Pardew’s quotes after the game are a matter of record.
    I did not argue that Pardew had decided not to rock the boat.
    I merely conceded it as a point, to take it out of the argument, as conceding the point made no difference.
    See, now THAT’S being clear………………………..:(

  • 189 GeordieTwo // May 27, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    How about an apology for the entire second half of the season Alan? And how about a proper statement from the owner committing to making us a competitive club again instead of the shambles that we are?

  • 190 Charlietoon // May 28, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    LEW – SJP is one of the worst stepping stones in the world. Everyone who leaves the club ends up sitting on a bench somewhere.




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