Newcastle Start Task Of Unloading Frenchmen – Ben Arfa Included


News today that Newcastle have started the process of unloading a number of our French contingent, who do not have a future at Newcastle, and they are said to include Gabriel Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, and Hatem Ben Arfa.

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Ben Arfa in action for Newcastle at Stoke

The report is in the Journal from Mark Douglas, and the names have been circulated to clubs in France, and Newcastle want a fee for each one of those Frenchmen, two of which are French Internationals in Ben Arfa and Yanga-Mbiwa.

The £3M fee we want for Sylvain Marveaux. who we signed as a free agent from Rennes thee years ago, is highlighted as being a barrier to moving him out.

Alan Pardew has been told he can use whatever fees he gets from the four to bring in new players – but how are we going to recuperate the £8M or so we paid out to Montpellier, for their then captain Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa a short seventeen months ago?

Maybe a loan deal could be arranged for him in France, and that would at least get his wages off the books for next season.

And one other Frenchman will definitely be leaving the club this summer and that is 24 year-old Romain Amalfitano, who has been a bust since we signed him from Reims as a free agent two years ago.

Maybe we could get £2M each for Marveaux and Obertan and maybe a bit more for Ben Arfa, who would be a steal for some club at £3M or £4M – and it’s fairly low because he has only on year left on his contract at Newcastle.

And unfortunately it’s looking almost certain that Ben Arfa has played his last game for Newcastle United.

And we’ll have the memories of some fantastic goals this lad has scored for us,  since he arrived in the summer of 2010 from Marseilles.

But it seems he’s now a luxury at Newcastle we just cannot afford, with the team struggling so much for long periods over the last couple of seasons. 🙁

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177 comments so far

  • firebug666

    May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #1

    Mathieu Debuchy On his future: ‘At the moment, I’m 100% focused on the World Cup. My agents are working on my future.’

    This was at his French Team press conference.

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  • WWSBRD

    May 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #2

    MYM on the out? The logic of NUFC is often astounding

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #3

    Ed,
    £2million for Obertan?? Be realistic, we would be lucky for someone to just take his contract off our hands, let alone give us money for him. No one will match his wages, so I would expect he will still be part of the squad next year and we will be told he has come back rejuvenated in pre season.

    No one has even enquired about HBA yet according to that same article, and there is zero chance Marveaux will fetch £3million.

    If we are waiting to off load these before filling their places, we could have a long wait.

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  • Rainrix

    May 29, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #4

    What a waste.

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  • Ben3arfa

    May 29, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #5

    why dont these morons offer Marveaux as part of the Cabella deal and work a compromise on the fee?

    Sylvain’s brother plays for Montpelier if Im not mistaken.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #6

    Ben Arfa,
    I suggested that earlier. Even offer HBA if they would prefer. Maybe, Montpellier don’t actually rate/want either though, and certainly wouldn’t be capable of matching the wages that they get here.

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  • Average_Contents

    May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #7

    Excuses excuses

    Is anybody surprised?

    Whilst haggling like we’re at a bazaar on the streets of Ankarra, other professional clubs are getting deals done in anticipation of the window opening, oh no not us! It’ll drag on and on and on and on and on and on just like the mighty boosh’s did

    We’re not saying spend astronomical amounts but losing out on players for the sake of a few hundred grand in wages or a couple of million in transfer fees is just cutting your nose off to spite your face trying to prove a point!

    It goes both ways fatty, you cannot expect clubs to pay top dollar for our players but expect to pay peanuts for their’s!

    Sort it out

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  • Spoof

    May 29, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #8

    If we can get any fee at all for either Marveaux or Obertan then we have done very well as none of them are worth a fee, I would be sad to MYM go as he does have some pace, what he needs is a big strong partner to compensate his lack of height, what he doesn’t need is Colo who is hopeless at all aspects of defending, it was no surprise that MYM had his best games with Willo who has the height to compliment Mapou, as for Ben Arfa, a flawed genious who lacks the work rate of the Ronaldo’s, Messi’s and Suarez’s of this world.

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  • thejokethatisnufc

    May 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #9

    Getting rid of HBA is a massive mistake if used properly he can be lethal.

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  • Go toon gooooo

    May 29, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #10

    French players were the problem?It is not true.More or less they all are good football professionals.Good manager will keep them all and use them all.But Parde thinks out-of-France players will save his begged managerial position.Pardew Alan out.Santon and Anita out also or maximum on the bench.Then this club will step one notch higher.

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  • firebug666

    May 29, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #11

    If Debuchy leaves too we will be facing relegation, the powers that be at Newcastle couldn’t spot a decent player if their live depended on it.

    Debuchy and MYM have look really good at this club, both have made mistakes, but that’s football and something they should learn from.

    MYM was just starting to show us what he was about, and getting into his stride when he was benched for Coloccini.

    All this shows now is what an absolute idiot Pardrew is, and why he should hounded out of our club.

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  • estechco

    May 29, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #12

    Hmm, here’s an idea Alan, why not play £8m MYM in his real (CB) position?

    Or, you could send him packing for a fraction of his actual worth and use that pittance to replace him with an unknown from the championship.

    …what to do!?!

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  • jettson1971

    May 29, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #13

    Its simple – its all lies as ever from P45DUE, here we go again, say one thing one day, then somethinf different the next. The only way, THE ONLY way to say anything is NOT TO GO and GIVE NOWT to the bank of ashley. NUFC are no longer a football club, they are a marketing arm of Sports Direct (one big advert) people must realise it is SD where Ashley makes his money, not from NUFC. We are a joke now, a club with no heart or ambition. Thats why I cancelled my 25 yr season ticket in Jan, give him nothing more. I really do hope for a sub 40K attendance on opening day. That will speak volumes, and press will demand answers to the missing 10-12K – Support Gateshead, great football, great manager, a club on the up!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #14

    Firebug,
    I’m not sure the club would want rid of Debuchy on a footballing level. If a good offer financially comes in then yes, he will go. But the club aren’t actively selling him.

    Go Toon Goo,
    No, the French players aren’t/weren’t the problem, but you are kidding yourself if you think a good manager would keep all of them. Any good manager would quickly ship out Obertan and most likely Marveaux. HBA and MYM would probably be given a chance, but no guarantee they would be any better. Only MYM really has scope for improvement with age, and adjustment to the league.

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  • valle

    May 29, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #15

    As many already have stated, this is probably a window like any others, where we sign a half decent player, perhaps on loan and end up getting told that they tried but would be held to ransom (So they gain our unquestioning sympathy, we wouldnt want them to get held to ransom by paying the going prices)… Cynical?, Pessimistic?, Realistic?, whichever way you look at it, we have been down this road before. I just hope the fans strike back this season and hit the jabba the hut where it hurts… His wallet.

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  • JAMSHA

    May 29, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #16

    if beni or mibwa goest il kick pardew on his fkn jaw

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    May 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #17

    firebug666
    Newcastle couldn’t spot a decent player if their live depended on it.

    Debuchy and MYM have look really good at this club

    These 2 sentences demonstrate what total balloons post on this forum

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  • mattnufc

    May 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #18

    I can’t believe Pardew told Debuchy not to attack when we on such a barren run of goals. Debuchy couldn’t be much more competent in either attacking and defending duties but Pardew still manages to fudge it up…

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  • jayphoto

    May 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #19

    Think MYM looked solid when played at CB! Problem is he needs to play alongside a big centre half as that compliments his pace. Problem is we start Colo who for me should only play in a sweeper role in a 5-3-2

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #20

    When will Newcastle Start Task Of Unloading Pardew?

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  • KingNash

    May 29, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #21

    If we sell Hatem Ben Arfa and bring in a crapper version of Hatem Ben Arfa in Andros Townsend or Wilfried Zaha, I may actually cry.

    Yanga shouldn’t be going anywhere. Throwing away a young foreign defender after a rough start is never a good idea. The top clubs don’t do it, and they would have been without Kompany, Vidic, Koscielny, Mertesacker etc etc right now.

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  • mattnufc

    May 29, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #22

    @Jeff
    You couldn’t ask much more out of Debuchy.
    And Yanga has hardly been given a chance.
    So, what is your point?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 29, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #23

    Previous thread

    Been here before
    Cleaning out the loft and came across a couple of old ‘The Mag’
    No 107 Feb 1998
    Nowt has changed:
    Page 3 ‘Things can only get…worse ?
    The mess that is ‘The Stevenage situation’ seems to have at least woken the club up to the fact that their PR is sadly lacking’
    10 benefits of playing bad
    1 Easier to get away tickets
    2 Not on Sky as much, so less disruption
    3 No excitement, so less chance to have a heart attack
    4 Gives moaners a chance to talk about the good old days
    5 Save Money on backing 1st goal scorer
    6 Masochists in the crowd enjoy it more
    7 A bad case of writers cramp for the tossers who tend to write to the local papers
    8 Save money on European trips
    9 Drink less because nothing to celebrate
    10 Drink more to drown sorrows.

    Page 14 Big club, small minds
    You can always tell when a season is turning shit when the club stars are making a big fuss over small matters and what a bunch of prats the directors have made themselves over the cup tyie with Stevenage.

    page 18
    OUT OUT
    We really must now admit the dreadful mistake that has been made by asking Daglish to manage our football club.

    page 20
    It’s Not His Fault, Or Is It?
    …But the current league table says we are a boring, mid-table team, lacking quality and it’s hard to argue with that. the last six weeks have been even worse than our 11th place suggests. One home league goal in the whole of December, and we had to wait until the 28th.

    Page 27
    ‘the current leaders have scored 49 league goals and conceded 16. we have scored 21 and conceded 25. we are reported to have a stronger enough squad to avoid relegation. six points above the relegation zone is a little to close for comfort’

    Just substitute 1998 for 2013/14
    Daglish for Pardew
    Shepherd for Ashley
    Cardiff for Stevenage

    NOWT HAS CHANGED

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  • lesh

    May 29, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #24

    Another sign of a window of excitement looms and it looks as though Pardew’s been reminded to bring ‘the line’ into the arena already? For sure, it just seems like five minutes since it was last mentioned!

    Anyone with half a brain would realise that any attempts to buy decent players this window’d be severely hampered given the club’s decreasing stature in the football world.

    But do Ashley and his crew ever consider the impact of their words and deeds? It appears not and fans are being conditioned to yet another Ashley window of nowt but exits and crap coming in!

    Here we go again, SNAFU!

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 29, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #25

    Jayphoto,

    I can’t believe Pardew broke up Willo and MYM to accommodate an aging and slow Colo who doesn’t even want to be here!

    However, Colo in a back 3 with MYM and A.N.OTHER would be a world class sweeper.

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  • Slank

    May 29, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #26

    Not surprised that Marveaux and Oberton are being jettisoned as they have hardley featured this season.

    Surprised about MYM. He hasn’t adapted well to life in the Premiership unlike some other French players but surely it raises question marks over the judgement of Carr and the continuing search for new players in France.

    Not surprised about Ben Arfa. He hasn’t looked right all season and there have been so many rumours about him that smoke and fire comes to mind.

    I hope Abeid and Tavernia are welcomed back.

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  • lesh

    May 29, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #27

    And Pardew’s been told he can have any monies raised by flogging these guys, for transfers?

    Wow, a few more pennies to add to the few quid made available?

    Looking forward to a pretty busy window are we? Well, err

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 29, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #28

    Matt

    Can’t you really believe it? It’s got Pardew’s incompetence written all over it.

    So that’s Ba, Colo, Cabaye, Debuchy and Ben Arfa, all our best players who have all questioned Pardew’s tactics now but they have all left or will leave !

    Surely losing 1 person is more desirable

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  • mattnufc

    May 29, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #29

    @Rotonda
    Haha of course I can believe it! But I just don’t want to; We could be playing good football but instead another season of direct piffle looms.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 29, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #30

    Charlie

    Nothing has changed because 52000 keep turning up regardless.

    It’s like Clegg bending over for Cameron, only we are doing it for Ashley! no good whinging if people keep feeding the Sports Direct machine.

    Some people are just too thick or selfish to get that though and wonder why things are as bad as they are.

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  • jayphoto

    May 29, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #31

    @rotonda – yea id like to see us bring in a commanding centre back! Think Willo had an ok season but he offers nothing going forward, is as slow as a post and his defensive headers arent powerful enough and usually go to the opposition!
    Can’t see us signing one though, more likely to see Curtis Good join the first team squad. Id happily see the back of Taylor and Colo and bring in say Omer Toprak to play alongside MYM with Willo and Good in reserve

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  • jayphoto

    May 29, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #32

    Surprised if anyone is shocked that MYM hasn’t settled! Hes played more games out of position since he got to NUFC than he has in position! the PL is hard enough to adapt to without being played out of position and having to come up against Walcott, Valencia, Navas etc all with pace to burn!

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  • KingNash

    May 29, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #33

    Wow, I just started commenting here and I have never read so much negativity in my life.

    Granted, it’s mostly warranted but I’m on the verge of suicide right now.

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  • Wayayman

    May 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #34

    What does Pardew have to do to get the bullet? The Hull fiasco, playing (previously) good players out of position to the detriment of the team, making ridiculous subsitutions that baffle us fans but also the players themselves, never having a plan A let alone a plan B, taking about his sides being set up to play on the front foot when he names a defensive-minded, p!ss poor attempt at a counter attacking line up, 6 defeats in a row, failing to beat the makems, and finally, he turns up wearing that shocker of a shirt on his holidays.

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  • GeordieDan

    May 29, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #35

    Isn’t it just Mike Ashley logic to ask £3million for Marveux and baulk at paying over £6 million for Remy Cabella!!!

    I have ran out of expletives to describe the ****** ****.

    And I see Pardew has already started peddling the transfer (or lack of) excuses.

    We will need to sign Messi, Ronado and Bale to stand a chance of saying up this coming season if we fail to buy YET AGAIN this summer!

    Its just gobsmacking! Utter incompetence again and again and again and again and again……………………………………and again………………………………………and…………………………………………………………………………………..again………………………..ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  • GeordieDan

    May 29, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #36

    NB Meant to say we’ll need to sign Messi, Ronaldo and Bale in January if we fail to sign anyone this summer as we’ll be rock bottom of the league.

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  • jayphoto

    May 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #37

    Horrible feeling Ashley will Gamble this summer tbh, with Sammy, Abeid, Good, Armstrong and possibly becoming fully fledged first team members wouldn’t shock me if we only added 2 players, a central midfielder and a striker… History isn’t in our favour with hopes of a 5/6 new player revolution

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 29, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #38

    Lilongwe…you should be more worried about the players in excess of £10M each we will be trying to bring in this summer to replace them and then try to flog in two years time for peanuts because we have ruined them beyond recognition!

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  • Spoof

    May 29, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #39

    Dan

    that does sum it up, £3m for a total waste of a squad place and £6m for someone who has been touted as being good enough to replace the £19m Cabaye, yet the chances are we will end up with Marveaux, god help us, I’m all for getting a good deal, but there is a difference between a good deal and a pathetic way of doing your business.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 29, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #40

    Rotondo
    Yeah you can blame me – I would still turn up if we played in division 3 – Its a day out couple of pints bit of crack and let of a bit of steam – its in the blood.
    I think even if 10,000 turned up would not make a jot of difference as long as we stay in the premiership to get the tv money.

    TV money has now corrupted the premiership into a cash cow for owners to the detrement of fans and the football played

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