Newcastle Look To Have More Loan Deals Next Season


It’s very difficult for Newcastle’s younger players to improve their game by only playing in the Newcastle U21 (Reserve) side, and that has become obvious over the last season, where a few of Newcastle’s youngsters did well out on loan to other clubs.

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Mehdi Abeid in action for Panathinaikos

In particular they were James Tavernier at Rotherham and Mehdi Abeid at Greek side Panathinaikos, but other players did not fare so well, and they included Shane Ferguson (Birmingham), Adam Campbell (St. Mirren) and Haris Vuckic (Rotherham).

And the Newcastle manager has told the Shields Gazette today that he plans to use more loan deals next season for our up and coming players:

“Certainly, some of our younger players need to get opportunities.” “We’ll still look to loan players out next year.”

It could even be that most of the younger players at the club are loaned out next season, and they could again include Tavernier, Vuckic, Ferguson, Abeid and Campbell.

And maybe one of those would be part of the first team squad at Newcastle – probably Mehdi Abeid who had an outstanding loan spell in Greece.

Other players who could be loaned out are said to include South Shields born center-back Remie Streete, who has just one year left on his contract at Newcastle, and has yet to prove he is capable of coming through into the Newcastle first team.

If we were to unload one of those younger players this summer (most are now in their early 20s), it could well be Shane Ferguson, who seemed to go backwards at Birmingham last season, and found it very difficult this year to even make the bench at the Championship club,  who survived relegation with a stoppage time goal in their very last league game.

And we could see some of our top youngsters like Olivier Kemen, Freddie Woodman, Lubo Satka and Kevin Mbabu – move on loan to lower league clubs – like Gateshead as one example – so they can get first team experience.

We think (hope) that local lad Adam Armstrong will be good enough to be in the first team squad at Newcastle next season.

Loan moves are really the only sure way to give the lads first team football,  and see how they react to being a first team player week in and week out at other clubs.

Sounds good to us.

Comments welcome.



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87 comments so far

  • Slank

    May 31, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #1

    REPOST

    The main problem with the transfer policy is the scouting, specifically of foreign players.

    Foreign players will earn more and pay less tax playing for Newcastle United than almost anywhere in Europe. If players don’t make the grade at the club it is then quite difficult to offload them especially back to Europe as more often than not they will be seriously out of pocket.

    Buying world class foreign players (like Cabaye, Debuchy, Sissoko and Tiote) is not an issue as they don’t lose their transfer value because of their ability and international exposure. But fringe players like Marveaux, Oberton and to a certain extent MYM will never be paid as much in Europe as they do at the club.

    The scouting policy has to be more selective and concentrate on quality and not quantity and go for higher value targets. Fewer imports should be compensated by a greater number of British players coming through the ranks.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #2

    We will loose more money on the likes of Benny, Mbiwa, Marv, Obertan and so forth than it would cost to sack Pardew and his staf.

    …I don’t even have to study economics to figure that out 😉

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #3

    …if money are so important to NuNuts why hasn’t he figured that out? He is penny pinching everything else 😉

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #4

    Well that’s a penny for my thoughts

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  • Slank

    May 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #5

    All premiership clubs loan out players. Younger players generally go to lower league clubs whereas established players often go to premiership clubs.

    However, very few of the many youngsters that are loaned out make it back to their home clubs and establish a career in the first team.

    I can only see James Tavernier and Mehdi Abeid making it at the club. Shane Ferguson, Adam Campbell and Haris Vuckic will not make it has they aren’t good enough for the Premier League.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #6

    It’s simple cost benefit

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #7

    Those players cost about 15 mill between them and they should be able to get most of that back. Pardew is on a reported 1.5 mill a year with 6 years left so I don`t think your figures stack up..
    You can have loose change and loose women but you can`t loose money. You can lose it though.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #8

    If Newcstle was a PLC the board would have sacked Pardew along time ago because the brand is hurting and we are not earning the potential profits whether its commercial revenue or player value!

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  • lesh

    May 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #9

    And meanwhile,Liverpool have increased their intial offer of £20m (Ashley, take note!)for Lallana to £25m.

    No pi$$Ing about there!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #10

    tequila isn’t Pardew on 500k a year? and he won’t get 6 years of pay we both know that.

    If think my math adds up very well mate!

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #11

    Jesper MA is keeping Pardew because he is making money. 40 mill up in transfers since Pardew took over. Pardew is the perfect fit for MA.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #12

    *I

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #13

    Pardew was one 500 k till he got his extension. whether he would have to pay the full six years is not known but as he has hit his tarfets I doubt whether there is a get out clause for MA. We also both know he would get most of the money back on the players you mentioned plus big profits if Krul or Debuchy go. There may well be a good argument for replacing Pardew for football reasons but not because he is costing MA money

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #14

    tequila…since he is not making money because of Pardew I fail to see your point in regards to what I said!

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  • jayphoto

    May 31, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #15

    Pretty sure Pardew is on 800k per uear with bonuses that could take him up to 2.5m per year depending on where the club finishes

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 31, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #16

    The problem is clubs are in a catch 22 situation.
    Fans want the star signings – you just have to read the posts on this blog.
    Clubs are to frightened to play to many youngsters in case they get relegated so buy players to keep them up.
    And clubs trawl local football as well as abroad and sign anyone and everyone up that has a bit of talent incase they miss anyone – Just go to a local kids game .

    Slank has put his finger on the problem

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #17

    But Jeper he is 40 mill up on transfers since Pardew took over, of course he is making money. He has a compliant manager who will not rock the boat when MA cashes in on a player with an increased value.

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  • jayphoto

    May 31, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #18

    Also regarding clauses, if ashley had wanted rid of him he had the perfect case of gross misconduct when pardew tried to headbutt Meyler! Unfortunately Pardews hitting targets! Just a shame hes overseen the decline of sone decent technical players

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #19

    tequila…lets just wait and see what profit we make on any players this summer shall we? I know nothing of the kind of what you are referring to!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #20

    Jayphoto…could you explain that one again?

    Pardew is on 800k per year with bonuses that could take him up to 2.5m per year! That’s a huge bonus 😉

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  • jayphoto

    May 31, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #21

    Not sure we get top dollar for players either! Cabaye left for 16m rising to 19m based on PSG progress! I think thats a poor price for him! We let Ba have that ridiculous clause. Before that we gave Barton away, let nolan go for less than he was worth to the squad. Remember shay given going for 5m when he was the best keeper in the league. Milner for 12m when a year later he went for 25m.
    Our transfer policy is as badly run as our club, the only outgoing we got top dollar for was carroll

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  • jayphoto

    May 31, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #22

    @jesper – yea its Ashleys way! Massive bonuses for hitting targets but small badic wage! Its something put in place in all his stores too!
    Pardews bonus for 10th was 1m! Think he has to win the league to get the 2.5m 🙂

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #23

    tequila…I am still seeing your point. I still make my case it would be cheaper to sack Pardew. And it would be the sensible thing to do.

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #24

    The players we would make a profit on I would rather keep.
    However if Krul Debuchy Sissoko or Santon were to go do you think we would lose money or make a profit ?
    Every club wants to move players one that for one reason or another have not made the grade, Ober Marv yanga and HBA were peripheral figures last year. I don`t have an issue with letting any of then go . They cost 15 mill. Even if we only get 10 or 12 back it`. not a big loss. Replace and move on. To suggest we should replace Pardew because the value of a few players has dropped when he has made boatloads on other players makes no sense.

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  • ganiyu

    May 31, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #25

    Newcastle need to at least sell or loan about 8 players if we are prepared to sign new players for next season. currently we have 33 players and 2 strikers ( Perez Diaz is an u-21and hence won’t count as a registered player in the 25 man list).

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #26

    jayphoto…since bonuses won’t come to play should he be sacked and neither would he get a 6 years settlement then if Newcastle was a PLC any sane board would have sacked him.

    And if NoNuts really are penny pinching I don’t get why Pardew is still here cause he is basically loosing money by retaining him.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #27

    *still not seeing your point

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  • Average_Contents

    May 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #28

    More supposed interest in Gomis! From NUFCfans.co.uk

    Newcastle have submitted an improved bid for French striker Bafetimbi Gomis, according to reports in France.

    The out-of-contract Lyon striker has been a long-term Newcastle target, but the move has so far failed to materialise due to wage demands and agent fees.

    Now, Newcastle have stepped up their efforts to sign Gomis, according to Mercato365.

    Meanwhile, Gomis’s agent, Willie McKay has said that up to five clubs want to sign his client – adding that he will go to a club which has held a ‘long-term’ interest in him. Mercato365 says QPR are now one of the five clubs.

    “The club who are really pushing for him have held a long-term interest in him and made a big bid for him before when at Lyon.”

    Although the Magpies have been interested in Gomis for a long time, McKay said that the club in question was ‘ambitious with an ambitious chairman’ – which seemingly rules Newcastle out.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #29

    tequila…I think we will loose money on Obertan, Benny and Mbiwa. And I think we would only get our money back on Santon and Debuchy. Sissoko and Krul has lost value which means NoNuts are loosing potential profits.

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  • sweendog

    May 31, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #30

    Average that’s gotta be QPR .. No great shame but we do need 2 strikers .. And 2 creative midfielders .. It does sound like cabella for 7 mill is happening

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #31

    I fail to understand how you cannot see this. But that’s your headache.

    Lets move on.

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #32

    Santon Bebuchy and Krul cost 13 mill in total. We would get that just for Debuchy. There are profits in all three. Sissoko was only 2.5 mill . Do you really think he has lost value.?

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  • Average_Contents

    May 31, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #33

    I thought that too mate even before the article mentioned them lol

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  • Average_Contents

    May 31, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #34

    Sweendog

    There are still local newspapers saying the deal is nearly done at 6-7m whereas their deputy chairman said they rejected that and want closer to 12m so I don’t know why they are reporting it today still

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  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    May 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #35

    Faking amazing… looking fir loan players cause Ashley is a penny pinching prat. I am not understanding what the surprise is.

    We will not get any of these players thruthfully. And why must we we are a poor clib with a sh1t teputation now, nothing like it was couple of years ago.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #36

    tequila…I don’t think your are reading what I am writing.

    Krul might not have cost us much back when he was 17, but he should be worth £15M at least. We might get £10M if we are really lucky. That’s more than £5M lost there. Sissoko cost ? (since the January transfer spend seems to change after who you ask) and we would probably get 7M for him. He should be worth more than £10M. We might value Debuchy at what you say, but it will only result in him staying until he can force a move and then we will probably only see the £6M we spend on him.

    Profits that are there/or should be there to make, which we don’t make are money lost. You should know that.

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  • sweendog

    May 31, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #37

    Average conflicting news alright but we can’t have been so far apart after these negotiations .. I think this was to drum up interest ..sounds more ominous on Grenier though .. But I still think there is just as good or better out there

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    May 31, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #38

    Simple math would suggest NoNuts would loose less/or gain more depending on how you see it by sacking Pardew.

    …so what’s keeping him? Maybe he just despise us more than he loves money. Would explain alot of his actions in the 7 years he has been here, cause I sure as hell can’t understand half of what he does.

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #39

    Jesper, so we are not losing money just not making as much as you would like. Thanks for the clarification.
    Gorgonzola you may want to read the article before wading in. It`s about loaning players out not looking for loan players in

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  • JAMSHA

    May 31, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #40

    pardew needs to go on loan… mayb a league 2 club can take him

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