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Why Jack Colback Is A Good Acquisition For Newcastle

8:46 am, Thursday, June 5th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 160 Comments

We are hoping the recent news that Newcastle seem to have won the race for Sunderland midfielder Jack Raymond Colback are true, and that he will sign for Newcastle when he returns from his summer vacation.

jack colback juan mata of ManU

Jack Colback and Juan Mata fight for the ball last season

Jack has just been married and he already has two young sons, so it could be that he and his wide wanted to stay in the North East area, and maybe that’s why he signed for his home town club.

If that’s true, then Jack is a sensible lad to agree with his wife so early in the marriage. 😀

Jack is a good solid player who always gives 100%,  and we were impressed with his form in the run-in to the season where Sunderland took 13 points out of their last 6 games, and got 7 points from their trips to Manchester City, Chelsea and Manchester United – simply amazing.

It’s surprising that Sunderland couldn’t keep him at the Black Cats, but their initial contract offer was low, because they didn’t know if they’s be in the Premier League next season.

And it could be that the measly offer started Jack and his agents looking around, and he found he was in some demand from Premier League clubs.

Jack will never be a star player, but he is like Nobby Stiles was for the England World Cup winning side of 1966, he is hard-working, strong and dependable, and all clubs needs these types of players – who hardly ever get the headlines, but they are worth their weight in gold to a team.

Jack can play at full back or anywhere across the midfield, so he is also versatile, and while at Sunderland he scored 5 goals in 135 appearances, and while that isn’t many goals it’s more than Cheick Tiote and Vurnon Anita have scored for Newcastle over the last two seasons.

Jack also scored 5 goals in 55 appearances while he was on loan at Ipswich Town from 2009 through 2011.

And of course having been born in Killingworth, he’s a Geordie, after all.

Comments welcome.

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Tags: Jack Colback · Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

160 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Average_Contents // Jun 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM


    I heard that the nuts they’re offering are out of date by a few months and the helicopter ride is just a rumour it was in fact SD vouchers


    No need to check bud we all know. Saying that we also get rid of our crappier player’s too

  • 2 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM

    Jail, I don’t think Mike Ashley, is the savior of our club for one second, nor do I think he’s likely at all to bring Champions league football back to St James’.

    I just think we are better placed to build a more legitimate side than we have been in the past. A top eight side, that can give the top six a run for its money and I think that’s the least the owner owes us and the best were likely to get from him.

    But yeah could be worse too, far worse I guess, but not necessarily so, or even more likely considering the position we are in.

  • 3 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM

    jimmy take off those jam jar bottoms lol

  • 4 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM

    He is just going to be another Brit on too much money getting games in front of better players!

    …another fringe player not good enough to warrant a starting place – and he is not coming here because he has been told he’s a bench warmer 😉

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:07 AM

    ”But yeah could be worse too, far worse I guess, but not necessarily so, or even more likely considering the position we are in”
    Confused, you will be 🙂

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    I totally get it now, because Danes don’t do humour and sarcasm, you put a smiling winking face after every post you’ve tried to use humour or sarcasm so that we know what you’re on about.

  • 7 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    Cabaye wanted to go, Enrique wanted to go, Ba wanted to go, Liverpool offered 35 million for Andy Carroll. The circumstances surrounding all of these excellent players made it hard to keep them. I think that is reasonable to say. I don’t see how their sale shows that we didn’t ideally want to keep them. Ashley could have thrown his own money at them. That would have been great. I personally wonder why with all his wealth he didn’t, but we know he wants it self sufficient. My greatest worry is more the level of competency to carry out a successful self sufficient strategy than the strategy itself, plus who wants to wait of course. But it it what it is, as far as we can piece together.

    Last season was unacceptable and rightly condemned. Let’s see how the club responds to it.

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    Is that what those hybrid A’s and E’s you lot use are for, humour and sarcasm indicators, translated as winking smiley faces in English. :0 🙂 :O

  • 9 Siremre5 // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    Bye Bye!

  • 10 Oldgit1 // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    Rumours around toon is Mike Ashley is giving Pardew a very large cash cow to bring stability and rewards to Nufc. He states that a truce for toon army faithfuls will unite the city and back his land and property portfolios. Also he is prepared to break his wage and age restrictions to get the right football back to entertainment level. About bloody time here here!!!! I’m not the author of this but just shows how deluded some supporters are.

  • 11 Jail for Ashley // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Why did they want to go though, good players but not fantastic, not your Modrics or Ronaldo’s of the world, players that would have likely stayed had we paid the going rate and showed a modicum of ambition, we lost Danny Simpson as an excellent back up player because they wouldn’t pay him the going rate a purple gets, even though he featured in all that season we finished fifth, don’t even bring AC in to it we al know that deal was a no brainer now after the initial anger.

  • 12 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:24 AM


    Ba should have been offered a new deal to take out that clause when he was banging the goals in, instead we waited until floppy chops gave that away.

    Ask yourself mate….why did all these players want out? The very thing you are praising (not paying over the odds) is the very reason these lads left. No ambition whatsoever, now we have fans saying bid 10m euros for cabella. Pay the money and buy the lad, just like we should have done with Bony

  • 13 Jail for Ashley // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:29 AM

    Our Toon,
    In all fairness I don’t think we can blame that on floppy chops, his agents would have told every other club in Europe about it.

  • 14 KingNash // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    I don’t mind Colback at all. Perfectly servicable 15-20game midfielder.

  • 15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:31 AM

    Jail…when you say we are you talking about the “royal we”?

    …do you want a smiley and mate to go with that?… mate 😉

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Our Toon…I am not even sure Ba would have signed such a deal!

  • 17 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    I’m suggesting that the club is better placed now to show some ambition and build a better side than it has been in the past under Ashley, if you accept that the profits are now there be put back in, where in the past they haven’t been. They may not be put back in in full of course, nor spent wisely, but based on the scenario that they will be.

    I haven’t pulled this out of my arse you know, it’s a commonly held view in the press, nor am I saying its going to happen, just that it can and should, particularly in light of the fans discontent, so I’m gonna take a keen but sober interest in how this transfer window pans out. Circumstances change and outcomes too, they’re hard to predict.

  • 18 Blofal // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Jail I’m just worried about paying €15 mill for Cabella, a player thats not proven himself in the premiership.

    Ashley won’t give us a lot to spend so we have to be preety sure about who we buy and Cabella is in the same type of player as Marveaux who can’t get a game for us.

    Plus he will be Pardewed anyway and will be played so deep and defensively that any creative ability will be snuffed out.

  • 19 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Yeah, but he wouldn’t f@cken use his own money to do it, and now the club has its own to use, so why isn’t it plausible that we’ll spend now where in the past we wouldn’t.

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Jail…you wouldn’t even know what those letter are for even if I told you. You would probably mistake them for some complot by Ashley to make your life miserable!

  • 21 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:43 AM


    I think we could have sat down with Ba’s representatives in December of that 1st season and thrashed out a deal which took the clause out, I think Ba’s agents would have signed it as well…Give them a bonus for him signing on of £2m and be done with it.

  • 22 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Our Toon…I am not so sure pal, but of course I don’t know for sure. I always thought Ba wanted that clause for a reason (Newcastle was a stepping stone for him)

    …and he didn’t seem happy about the way we where playing like a few other players. I am afraid more are going to jump ship if something doesn’t give! It’s just my theory 🙂

  • 23 lesh // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM


    If Colbeck’s just been married and already has two young sons he’s a been a very mucky pup.

    We don’t need such immoral, lost souls at our club, one of the last bastions of virtue where everyone’s treated with the greatest respect and valued by our fine upstanding owner, Mike Ashley.

    If everybody associated with Newcastle United were as spiritually and morally intact as him, we would be truly great, knowing that we can hold our heads high.

    All ye who doubt Ashley will see the light and marvel at his greatness.

    We are blessed to have him ws our spiritual guide.


  • 24 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:48 AM


    All transfers are a risk, even with proven premiership players…look a Shaun Wright Phillips, Torres, Felliani, these are just a few “proven” prem players that have failed miserably

    The bottom line is that we have ZERO creativity now that HBA and Marv aren’t near the starting 11, we need to take risks if we are to survive. This squad has gone from being one of the best we’ve had in a long time to a team that is slowly being disbanded to accommodate “GRAFTERS”

  • 25 lesh // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    🙂 😉

  • 26 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    ???????? mate!

  • 27 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM


    As much as I like Demba Ba, he is a player who prefers ££££’s rather than his career or at least the people around him would come across that way. He went on strike at Hoffenheim to get a move to WH…Clever clause to release him on a free if they went down. Same thing at the toon, that 1st season though we played good football, he was disappointed to be out on the wing when Cisse arrived though. I think if offered a deal in December and increased that clause to £15m he would have signed a new deal. Just my theory mate 🙂

  • 28 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    What a jip! My smiley and winkey faces come out as ??????, another reason why they should be banned Ed, they’re not even democratic!

  • 29 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Our Toon… Ba, Cissé and Benny did look good up front didn’t they 🙂

  • 30 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    I can see it now Colback aka the new Gutierrez, another babysitter for our full backs!!

  • 31 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    so jimmy you want censorship? Anything else?

    *I know you frown upon “mate” as well! Should we use disclaimers when we write. Ibiza and I have toyed with that before.

  • 32 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 9:58 AM


    They looked class mate, dare I say they looked as though they had creative freedom without shackles.

    That all changed the following season when he tried to go 442 to please Ba

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Colback really had a below average season and his passing is just plain bad.

    …he will probably end up playing LB more often than CM!

  • 34 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Greater discression for a start and World Peace, oh, and Shola to win the Golden Boot at the World Cup, just off the top of my head.

  • 35 lew // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    We should get Hangeland on free transfer, and kick Saylor and/or Colo out!!

  • 36 Siremre5 // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Yohan Cabaye has warned his former club Newcastle United they will be losing a key player if they allow Haten Ben Arfa to depart this summer. Sky

  • 37 Siremre5 // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    For me, he remains an extraordinary player with enormous quality. It is true that it was harder for him late in the season. He is going to bounce back and find more opportunities with another team. For me, this is one of the players I’ve played with who has the highest quality.

  • 38 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    🙂 never mind jimmy

  • 39 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Disclaimer: as much as jimmysmith frown upon smiley/ winking face or the constant use of “mate” to end with a derogatory and patronizing flourish he just leaves out the smiley…I don’t 😉

  • 40 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM


  • 41 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    lets have matey then :):)

  • 42 Slank // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Good words from Cabaye.

    It sounds like Ben Arfa doesn’t want to leave. He is a ‘one-off’ and is as valuable as a ‘grafter’ but you can’t have a team of all ‘one-offs’ nor a team full of ‘grafters’. A balance is required.

  • 43 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    It’s settled we will use “matey” then. Can we find a sub for smilies and winks? (and no Shola won’t do here)

    Disclaimer: how I wanted to put a smiley behind that!

  • 44 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:26 AM


    I think Cabaye is spot on with what he says, HBA would flourish under an attacking manager as he has matured now. He was wrongly blamed after the Spurs game but sometimes we expect too much from him. Consistency is a word that gets banded about a lot and NO ONE in our team is consistent.

    To get the best out of such players they need to be playing from the start and with the shackles taken off!!

  • 45 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    pardew 😉 oot matey

  • 46 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM


    benny is worthless until he and a manager can find away to make him consistent and get the best out of him
    as it stands we have a manager that wont play him so whats the point in having him

  • 47 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    What’s even the point of having that manager now that we are at it!

  • 48 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Matey is nice.

  • 49 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    lol jimmy no-one will ever see eye to eye here
    not a penny more
    till they are gone
    or in fact me
    even then not a penny more hahah

  • 50 Graeme // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Jasper @ 47 – exactly, NO point at all.

  • 51 Mister Tuff // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Matey – I think will have a nautical/seafaring origin as in “shipmate”. In my opinion, on that basis instead of using “matey” we might as well use the phrase “hello sailor”.

    Advocates of matey……………………………OUT

  • 52 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Yeah lets just flog any player that would be worth there weight in gold because our manager is inept. Pards can sign his grafters like Colback….who’s next?


  • 53 Average_Contents // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Yohan Cabaye believes his former club Newcastle United will be making a mistake if they offload Haten Ben Arfa this summer.

    Ben Arfa is tipped to leave St James’ Park after falling out of favour under Alan Pardew last season.

    The 27-year-old was frozen out of the first-team at Newcastle after a bust-up with Pardew and the club are thought to be ready to listen to offers.

    Cabaye, who left Newcastle to join Paris Saint-Germain in January, is confident Ben Arfa will bounce back if indeed he does move to a new club, but fears the Magpies will be letting one of their most talented players depart.

    “I have not talked to him (about a departure),” Cabaye told Foot Mercato.

    “This is a situation that he must manage on his side. For me, he remains an extraordinary player with enormous quality.

    “It is true that it was harder for him late in the season. He is going to bounce back and find more opportunities with another team.

    “For me, this is one of the players I’ve played with who has the highest quality.

    “If he decides to return home, that will be good for the French league.”

  • 54 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    jolly jack tar

  • 55 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    your not putting that in my locks

  • 56 wolfshead@toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    nothing changes on here the two main topics are still containing pardew and flair ben arfa haha nm the w c starts soon 🙂

  • 57 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    We have sold our teenage goalkeeper Jonathan Mitchell to Derby. No news of it ED?

  • 58 Average_Contents // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:19 AM


    We released him

  • 59 Go toon gooooo // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Forget about that versatility.Versatility is something that doesn’t exist in football.Every player has own position on which he will work whole career.Don’t be like Allardyce-Christopher Samba good striker.Yes,player can play on all positions but with minimal effect except his played-for-years position.About Jack Colback-slow,one legged,strong player he can play some kind of defensive role.Nothing more.But there are two defensive midfielders Sissoko and Tiote already.Jack Colback-definitely NO.

  • 60 terencelim // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Post #2 paragraph 2 and 3 is the way clueless politicians talk – pointless.

  • 61 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    Go toon gooooo

    so what happens when one of the two are injured ? you have to have a squad m8 so Jack Colback-definitely YES

  • 62 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    How so? The point is a clear one. We are better placed now than we ever have been under Ashley and the way he runs the club to put together a decent side. It just remains to be seen if it happens.

  • 63 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    jimmy it appears no-one of any clout at nufc knows anything about football
    just how to rip-off the fans

  • 64 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Senor Tuff…it seems we are back to square one then!

    …where do we stand on a sub for smilies or winks? The derogatory and patronizing flourish is here in all forms and phrasing!

    Disclaimer: I’ll leave out the smiley for now

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    Emre Can has signed for Liverpool

  • 66 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    placido domingo has signed for the makems

  • 67 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    Yes, the second part of last season was utterly atrocious and the failure to bring in adaquate cover for Cabaye resulted in a pretty clear rip off. I don’t think even Ashley would privately deny that. Fans didn’t wear it. That was good.

  • 68 Belfast // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Jesper troublemaker

  • 69 Graeme // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    The Truth – the makems will think its a Pizza mate lol

  • 70 Go toon gooooo // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    If he comes here he will not be replacement.He will take place to some of our wingers.That is the problem.We have better wingers right now and if Pardew plays him as a starter winger and Ben Arfa is on the bench or other club the things in Newcastle will go worse.But if he is replacement as a defensive midfielder for Tiote and Sissoko(if Pardew plays him on his natural position)then OK,welcome.That will be MAYBE a good choice.And Mehdi Abeid is still here too.Pardew probably seeks replacement for Ben Arfa in Jack Colback and that is a big mistake.But Pardew deserves sack anyway.

  • 71 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Where is our optimism? Dormant gloom everywhere!

  • 72 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Doom and gloom*

  • 73 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    many i say many years of hurt
    nothing new here
    not a penny more

  • 74 carl // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Your spot on. As the press release indicated.

    Newcastle posts profits of £9.9m- 26 Feb 2014 00:00:00
    Newcastle United have posted their profits from the 2013/13 season which sees the club’s profit after tax rise to £9.9m from £1.4m in 2011/12 following a growth in commercial revenue and a reduction in operational losses.
    The profit comes despite a 30% increase in transfer spending having bought six senior players at a cost of £28.7m in January 2013. The club’s overall turnover rose to £95.9m due in part to a sharp rise in commercial revenue.
    Matchday turnover, including ticket sales and hospitality, also rose to £27.8m, a 15.9% increase from the previous year with average attendance in the Barclays Premier League rising to 50,517. The club’s operational losses were also reduced from £5.1m to £616,00 and the total wage bill fell by just under £3m.
    A statement from the club’s board said: ‘As supporters will be aware, finances are a significant issue for all football clubs given the introduction of Financial Fair Play into the Premier League in addition to UEFA’s Regulations. Complying with FFP continues to be a key influence on strategy and something we have been working hard at over a number of years.’
    ‘Everyone at this club wants to finish as high up the Barclays Premier League table as they possibly can. If the club can sustain itself as a ‘top ten’ team year-on-year with a stable structure and the right finances, it gives itself every chance of pushing even further. Matchday and commercial revenue is a key driver because that’s where the Club can compete with – and outperform – its competitors to enhance its spending capabilities.’

  • 75 Mister Tuff // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    jesper – morning -I’m not into all these smilies,lols, m8 and other types of “modern” text speak. My old fashioned view is that it degrades grammar -whilst I understand grammar can evolve with time. Whilst not to be used all the time, indeed it should be used sparingly -a good old fashioned insult can often have a cathartic effect.

  • 76 70TWO // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Why bother discussing potential incoming transfers when there is many other more serious topics to possibly debate:

    a) Is Tiote better operating alone in the holding midfield role or with another alongside him, when he can securely disrupt the opposition play further out of position?

    b) Should Pardew continue to develop the three CD formation with wing backs and what attacking formations should be employed, 541, 532, 523 or 5212?

    c) Will Sissoko continue to play for NUFC out wide, or alternatively does he show the ability to play in the centre in a box to box, or creative midfield role?

    d) Should Santon play on the right hand side and does Haidarra deserve playing time, even in a winger role?

    e) Where is Sammy Ameobi, is he a forward or a midfielder?

    f) Should Marveux and Obertans contracts be paid off?

    I doubt there will be a concensus of opinion but surely these topics deserve reporting, if only to fulfill the number of articles required for advertising purposes without sounding like a broken record.

  • 77 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    How about as a rule of thumb something along the lines of not using any icon, word or phrase regarding another posters views on football and the toon in a way that suggests they’re a slow witted dickhead for voicing them.

  • 78 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:06 PM


    I disagree with you on that point m8, when we finished 5th we had the makings of a very decent side and squad, we had good players all over the park and all we needed was 3 or 4 to be added to it, but we failed too do that, we now need a CB as we did then due to Colo now being past it ( which happens) we may need two if MYM goes, we still need a right back as cover for Debs ( we may need two if he goes ), all Debs has done is to be an upgrade on Simpson, but we still lack the cover, Guthrie and Cabaye have gone with only Sissoko coming in so we are shorter in midfield, Ben Arfa will be going so another place needs to be filled, and up front is a right old mess, Cisse who may not be fit for the start of the season which leaves us with Gouffran as our lone striker,.

    So we have gone from needing 4 squad players to now needing possibly 10/11 to get back to where we should have been, that won’t happen, an extra £10k per week and we would still have Simpson, Guthrie I suppose has been replaced with Anita (sadly he is woeful) MYM came 18 months too late and both he and Colo need replacing, we still have no width on the left as Jonas who did a decent job for us is like Colo past his sell by date, Cabaye and Ba have still to be replaced, we have virtually nothing left, what we had was a good back bone, a good sarting point but now we have a blank canvass, and that is not good especially when it appears to be clear that the club have not learnt their lesson and still persist in offering far to little, we are not in a good position m8, we are in ruins and there doesn’t appear to be any urgency to change the situation we are in, too stubborn to accept that their rediculous stance on value for money is killing the club.

  • 79 Ancientcoptic // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    Colback had a better pass completion than David Silva last season… a player that can retain possession and is good at winning possession back cannot be a bad start. I wonder what he will think of playing beside Tiote, who likes to waste possession and shoot from 40 yards out, if he gives Tiote a bit of lip for pulling stunts like that, he will be alright by me.

  • 80 Jail for Ashley // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Jesper should be banned from using that winking smiley face, it has as much punchability as Adrian Chiles boat race
    Welcome back, Dormant gloom was very apt I thought.

  • 81 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Yeah, we’ve had good sides in the past and failed to build on them. That failure to strengthen after the fifth place finish was a sickener considering the owners personal financial clout and the opportunity at hand. But isn’t it a moot point, because he wasn’t going to spend any more of his own money anyway. Now there is money to be spent, so in that sense I think we are in reality better placed than ever. Granted the side looks like it needs some significant rebuilding and you’d understandably be entirely skeptical about it all.

  • 82 Belfast // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    Banned and kneecapped Jail.

    I think we’ve absolutely no chance of signing this Cabella lad like. They want 12 million and we’ve offered 6.5 million lol Probably best to move on.

  • 83 Belfast // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    Plus their chairman seems to hate us

  • 84 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    Belfast…I am just not a push over mate 😉

  • 85 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Senor Tuff…nothing wrong with a good old insult for sure!

  • 86 RUNAWAY777 // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:39 PM


    Yohan Cabaye has warned his former club Newcastle United they will be losing a key player if they allow Haten Ben Arfa to depart this summer.
    For me, he remains an extraordinary player with enormous quality. It is true that it was harder for him late in the season. He is going to bounce back and find more opportunities with another team. For me, this is one of the players I’ve played with who has the highest quality.

  • 87 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    Jail…can I be frank with you?

    …I’ll just take that as a yes and say “God you are just plain boring!” …at least humor us!

    ppB…you can always bring back the daffodils and OV 😉

  • 88 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:40 PM


    you’ve summed it up yourself, when we finished 5th you said yourself that he wasn’t going to spend any of his own money, we made a profit that season as we did the following season which he also failed to spend, but now you are claiming to be in a better position so you feel he might spend this time, why the change, why now and not then, I don’t recall anything coming from the club to suggest a different policy, I just don’t no where you have got this new found optimism from, in all honesty Jimmy I just can’t understand how and why you feel that it could be different, it certainly can’t have came from the club as we can still see that the old tried and doomed to failure low balling ways are still their policy, so what is different ?

  • 89 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    Spoof but what if we get 5-6 gems at 3million each?
    Surely thats worth all this low balling?

  • 90 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:45 PM


    that’s a bit rich coming from Cab’s as he was desperate to get away, if he was concerned about us losing quality players then he wouldn’t have jumped ship to warm the PSG bench would he.

  • 91 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:47 PM


    yes it would be worth it, but I bet you a pound to a penny that we don’t get them, how often does it work, and then what happens, sinking ship springs to mind

  • 92 RUNAWAY777 // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    agree spoof just wonder if he regrets moving

  • 93 Belfast // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    I would say his pay rise will probably outweigh any regrets lol

  • 94 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM


    he possibly has but next season will be the big test for him, if he continues to be out of the side then it would prove to be a bad move, you never know we might just make a cheeky £6m offer to buy him back !!!!!!!!

  • 95 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM


    I’m not to sure about that, I genuinely believe that he does put his career before his wallet, not many do but I think he came here solely to improve his game and progress with his career, however if his career was to stand still as it is at present then I believe that he would move on again, and quickly, I would not be surprised to see him move come January, unless he can force his way into the PSG side which will be tough.

  • 96 jimmysmith // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    Weren’t the profits from previous years minimal, and aren’t the profits from last significant because of the sale of Cabs and the increased TV money. There’s also the constant reports of the club being financially stable.

    I’m long past being optimistic about Newcastle under Ashley. I’m skeptical about the level of competence, but logically though, why wouldn’t the increased profits go back in. Where better else for him to put them, particularly when he’s under so much scrutiny and pressure from fans and media, and he’s stated that the initial goal is a financially sustainable football club which he appears to have achieved. Won’t all go on players though, regardless.

  • 97 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM


    Joe Allen had a better pass completion the Xavi and Iniesta whilst playing for Swansea in the PL. When those stats were broken down it turns out that he had more touches in his own half and created 1/8th of the chances the other 2 did!! Stats are important but always look at the stats in more depth to see what it actually signifies

    Cattermole made more chances and a better shot per goal conversion than Colback….Pretty much sums up the new rubbish we are signing!!

  • 98 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM


    I agree with you comments on Cabaye, he definitely puts his career first. Fans tend to forget he joined us from the French Champions. He gave up CL to test himself in a new league as he thought it would improve his game. We aren’t the greatest club in the world….we are a stepping stone and PSG are a bigger club than us.

    I commend players like Ba and Cabaye who leave for CL football even though they may not be starters they have a chance of achieving something at these clubs, training with the some of the best players is a challenge in itself.

  • 99 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:26 PM


    you right it wont all go on players we need new pitch lights for the tv cameras
    so I am sure they will trot that out when they don’t spend much cash, as they do when the carol cash gets raised they mention the undersoil heating at the training ground there is also the all the upgrades to the training ground they got the go ahead for that was rumoured to be 20mill not sure on that though

    so whats left out of that will be our kitty and then they wont spend it all cos they like to have some not to spend in the other window

  • 100 Ancientcoptic // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Our Toon, Colback’s passing completion stats signify that he has a good passing completion… there was no implication of anything else.

  • 101 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM


    We haven’t spent on a permanent signing for 2 windows. If it was all about profits he wouldn’t have agreed to a deal with Wonga which is significantly less than what we previously had. He would pay for advertising SD and other brands, any profits made will no doubt go back to servicing the loan!! Since we’ve slowly become more profitable we’ve also spent LESS

  • 102 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    our toon

    why would any player not want to work with the best coaches and managers, most of the top teams due to the fact they try and win everything there entered play twice a week, so there are plenty of games and it only takes 1 long term injury and chances are your in there team for a while,
    not many players get to play for the top team when opportunity comes you have to take it, if it don’t work out you have not lost anything

  • 103 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:36 PM


    logically why would he put it back in, what purpose would it serve, what he appears to want is an advertising hoarding in the premier league, that is what he has so all I see is him sustaining that, I will be surprised if we don’t get some new blood this summer as our league position would be under serious threat without some, but it will be enough to get us mid table but no more than that.

    The profits may have been minimal, but thats not really the point is it, its what he wants from us, free advertising whilst also making profits, I don’t see him having any desire to change that any time soon.

  • 104 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    Ancient…try and look Colback up on whoscored. His passing is under par 🙂

  • 105 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:37 PM


    No problem mate, I initially looked at that stat yesterday evening and was considering revising my initial disgust at signing him but when I delved further into the passing stat it became apparent that he is dross. Although he has the shortest passing distance average which is 16m he created less than 1 chance a game!!

  • 106 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Jimmy…there is a good read on Newcastle’s finances on the swissramble (a blog). You can have a look if you are interested – I am not sure who updated it is.

  • 107 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    Our Toon

    the sad thing is that they have to leave to achieve their goals, which is maddening.

  • 108 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM


    That’s my point mate, I dont understand why fans have a go at players when they leave for more ambitious clubs….the fact that they won’t or may not be guaranteed starters is a challenge and these guys are leaving to develop themselves or test themselves at the highest level club football can possibly bring them.

    Remy on the other hand is a mercenary!!

  • 109 RooneyToons // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Haha yeah nice one Gus… Cheers yeah

  • 110 why oh why // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Good signing
    Carbella to follow

  • 111 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM


    Haha well put matey, I’m amazed they still know what goals and aspirations are after playing for this regime!!

  • 112 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:44 PM

  • 113 Ancientcoptic // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Jesper, that is the website I was on, regarding Colback.

    It should be interesting to see if Ba still thinks he has a future at Chelsea, after they wrap up a deal for Costa… surely he cannot think he will get games with Costa, Torres and Lukaku in the squad. I personally pity the guy if he thinks he is going to get games outside of the Capital 1 cup next season.

  • 114 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    interesting how we make profits yet it states that the debt is the same but the cash balance is zero, the money just vanishes ?????, Spooky !

  • 115 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    our toon

    remy proved it was all about the cash when he went to qpr
    I am glad we got him in onloan but only cos we would have gone down without him, but I didn’t want him here he was never going to sign for us,

    I think his plan all along was 2 season in the prem with whoever and then try and angle a move to cl team somewhere

  • 116 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    Ancient…it sure will. I am still not decided on whether money is more important to him (Ba) and games. What do you reckon?

  • 117 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Chelsea are planning on flogging Torres or Lukaku though if reports are to be believed!!

  • 118 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Ok so if we signed colback and cabella who else would people here want us to sign?
    Personally I’d love lukaku (highly unlikely) and hangeland would still leave cash for plenty of others

  • 119 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Imagine having ba and lukaku up front!

  • 120 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    Also like the look of deulofeu. He has the ben arfa greed troubles but us very skillful and only 20-21

  • 121 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM


    Stefan Savic, Victor Ibarbo, Pierre-Michel Lassago and another striker as cover

  • 122 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    and we would still need a number 10 as Cabella may struggle, but not de Jong as he is useless

  • 123 Mister Tuff // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    Just read that old Guardian link about Poyet wanting to recommend Johnson and Colback to Roy Hodgson.
    An interesting extract about Johnson was :-

    “If Hodgson asks his advice, Poyet will tell him that Johnson – a £10m buy from Manchester City by O’Neill – needs “to be in a position where he can use his ability, which is the last third. He needs a situation where he can control the ball and attack defenders.”

    Just shows Poyet knows nowt about modern football and modern tactics. Having the idiocy to suggest a skilful player should be playing in the final third to attack defenders -what a load of tosh.
    The Percy Parsnip Manual of Modern Coaching does not allow for such foolishness. Keep them back to defend – that is the modern approach.

  • 124 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Our Toon,
    Colback scored more goals, and got more assists than Clattermole. Also more key passes per game and a better pass completion ratio. I’m not saying he is great, but the Cattermole comparison doesn’t hold water.

    Which bit of his passing is under par?

  • 125 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    Senor Tuff… 😀

  • 126 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    Dormant gloom? I’m pleased you corrected that, there is absolutely nothing dormant about the gloom round here – with reasonable justification I might add!

  • 127 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Spotted it, you are going off the strength and weakness analysis at the bottom. I don’t get how they come up with it. I just clicked on 8 random players in Sunderland’s squad, and only 1 didn’t have that as a weakness – Bridcutt. Yet his pass completion is worse than Colback and he only made 0.1 more key passes per game.

    I guess they have further analysis that isn’t on the site, but it doesn’t really make a huge amount of sense.

  • 128 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:19 PM


    ________Key pass________Avg.pass_______Rating



  • 129 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Spoof good call on savic.
    Also if we lost debuchy I’d love ignszio abate. But it is again very unlikely.

  • 130 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Lilongwe…granted I didn’t take pass completion into account. It seems most players playing in central mid has relatively high pass completion?

  • 131 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    and yes I did spot the strength and weaknesses at the bottom 🙂

  • 132 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:24 PM


    Cattermole played 9 games less than Colback created 6 less chances than Colback, attempted more forward passes than Colback. I’d expect him to wipe the floor with Cattermole who is pants….he barely comes out on top mate!!

  • 133 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Look at the distance of the passes as well, Colback has the shortest range which is probably why they’ve highlighted his passing as a weakness. Leon Britton is at 90% but when its broken down most of his passes have been sideways or back!!

  • 134 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Bedelj has said he wants to stay at Hamburg, so not really any point discussing his relative merits.

    Sertic has scored less goals in his career than Colback got last season. He also managed the same number of assists as Colback last season – in a better team in a poorer league. Hardly inspirational.

  • 135 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Our Toon…are you looking on whoscored as well?

  • 136 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    Lilongwe…I was just trying to explain my point of view. I have no idea of what Badelj has said and what he does.

    …Colback just looks below par to me that’s all.

  • 137 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM


    I was checking it out on Squawka matey 🙂

  • 138 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    But you need to take into account that Badelj is a defensive mid not a box to box player.

  • 139 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Colback is a decent signing for a newly promoted team, I’ve said this before but I think this is 1 are where we have adequate cover.

    Remember MA considers wages as part of a transfer fee over the duration of a players contract….they reason said there is no such thing as a free transfer.

  • 140 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Our Toon…that’s a new one to me matey 🙂

  • 141 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM

  • 142 Pardews Prolific Boys // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    Is Javier hernandez available? Who’d take him?

  • 143 Average_Contents // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:41 PM


    The last set of financials where we announced a 9m profit did not include the new TV deal or the cabs money as they were from the 12/13 season

    They will be included for last season though (13/14) and they usually publish them around February time for the year ending June 2014 so we should get a good idea of what money was available this summer then

  • 144 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:41 PM

  • 145 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Our Toon,
    But all of those extra games Colback had, he was at full back. They had 21 starts each in centre mid. Colback got 3 goals and 2 assists.

    3 goals from 17 shots for Colback. Do we think any of our midfield managed a goal to shot ration that good? Tiote and Anita didn’t. Gosling didn’t, Ben Arfa didn’t. The closest was Sissoko, who got 3 goals from 44 shots. *Cabaye got 7 in 63, worse than Colback but better than others discounted as he left.

    Is he great, no, does this make him better than them all, no. Is he an improvement on Gosling. Yes. Does he provide good solid back up to the first 11. Yes.

  • 146 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM


    I’d take Hernandez in a heartbeat, he’d score 20+ goals a season without fail but unfortunately he’s to good for us

    Deulfueo (however you spell his name) is off the market as Luis Enrique says he will be part of 1st team next year

    I’d take a punt on Yura Movsisyan of Spartak Moscow

  • 147 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    I will take back the Sertic thing, I was looking at a dud site which didn’t include last season. Apologies.

    Still, I stand by that he is decent back up. I won’t be happy if he is a regular starter next season, but he is an improvement on Gosling, and in my opinion that is who he will replace.

  • 148 Spoof // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Stats prove nowt, they are a waste of time, if a good winger puts in 100 good crosses but the striker is shyte then his assists will be low, if in the same number of games a poor winger only managers 30 good crosses then he may have more assists, this applies to all areas of the pitch, stats are a total waste of time as they prove nothing at all, the best way of deciding whether a player is any good is to watch him with your eyes and then decide, statistically the season before last Sylvain Marveaux was our most creative player and last season statistically Mike Williamson should be in the England squad as his stats were better than those in the squad, ffs man they can only ever be treat with a pinch of salt, they bore me so I’m going to take the dog for a walk, see ya’s later.

  • 149 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Anyway, I’m off. It is like ground hog day in here every day. Nothing against the posters, or the blog master. More the fact that nothing seems to happen at the club, so we go endlessly over the same ground.

    Fingers crossed for something to happen soon.

  • 150 Mister Tuff // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    I think some of the younger folk get carried away a bit with quoting about assists. To a certain point it’s Americanised bollocks – if all the stats were collected using exactly the same conditions -might have some relevance.
    A fine connoisseur of the beautiful game does not need to know all this rubbish – I know a shyte player when I see one.

  • 151 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Statistically Marveaux got the most assists. Obertan actually had the best assist record per minute on pitch. So surely he was our creative star!

  • 152 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 2:58 PM


    Its a good and healthy debate, Colback also played as an attacking midfielder in 1 game, yes he had 7 outings at LB where he got 1 assist but his forward pass ratio improved as a result of playing LB. Scum are a more attacking team than us that is a major factor you have to consider!!

    Gosling hardly got a look in, HBA scored 3 goals and got 3 assists, also created 30 chances!! Not bad for someone who spent a lot of time bench warming. I’ve stated before that we have adequate cover for CM


    Doesn’t send a good message to the bottom 2 in that list who will leave if they don’t get regular football

  • 153 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    I see players with my own eyes and stats do have a bearing (Moneyball). I have watched Colback player and personally feel the kid is pants, we should look to bring Abeid on rather than giving this Jack of all trades master of non a game!!

  • 154 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Our Toon,
    One last post then I am off!

    As I put, I’m not saying his goal stats make him a better player, in the same way his passing ones don’t make him a bad (or good) player.

    Mark Twain put it best; “There are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damned lies, and statistics”

    Abeid was told he was surplus to requirements last summer anyway, not sure he will stay. There have been stories that Bigi is no longer wanted at the club, so he may well be gone.

    Let’s face it, we will (hopefully) bring in at least 1 attacking midfielder, therefore the last 2 in the list stand little chance of getting regular first team football anyway, so as you say will want to be away.

    That would mean 4 centre mids departed in 8 months and 1 bought. Nothing wrong with that reading 2 bought and 1 of them being Colback.

  • 155 JamesToon // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    @pardew’s prolific boys

    I’d buy:
    Steven Caulker – £9mil
    Jack Colback – Free
    Remy Cabella – £10mil
    Clement Grenier – £11mil
    Wilfred Zaha – £6mil
    Alexandre Lacazette – £10mil
    Danny Ings – £5mil


    I’d also bring in better coaching staff to help pardew tactically and also some better staff for the youth academy. Jason Dodd and Paul Williams from southampton have just left, i’d say snap them up before anyone else does. Mike Phelan and Rene Meulensteen are also available.

    I want to see Bigirimana, Sammy Ameobi, Haidara, Campbell/Armstrong used a lot more as well. Hopefully Santon will be played as more of a right back

  • 156 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Lilongwe…no worries mate 🙂

    …until next time. Take care!

  • 157 theartfuldodger // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    With the season tkt window extension, are we about to see a flood of signings in the next few days…

  • 158 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:12 PM


    We’ll agree to disagree matey, i see your point but feel it doesnt send a good message to the younger lads as he isn’t an upgrade…take care and catch up soon

  • 159 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    stats mean nothing to our manager specialy the attacking ones
    if he ever read a stats sheet some players would never be anywhere near the 1st team instead there in there week after week with no end product

    my only concern with signing colback is its an area where were good we wont see sissoko in his best position and he will hinder the progression of bigi

    instead of a specialist right winger and moving sissoko into the middle and making him the player he looks to be there were bringing in a lesser player to keep a player a utility play and not letting him develop

    poor goofy his last season in france he had a reasonable goal return you can see now with some of his misses he has lost that edge a little bit of panic I am gonna score and all cos he is willing to run up and down the left and not moan, nice 1 alan you must be so proud

    got nothing against players being versatile but pards is taking to far we will be a team of make weights and versatile players at least stoke had a game plan and a way to win we do not

  • 160 the truth will out // Jun 5, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    The cemeteries are full of those who carry the gun without a round in the chamber ………. Soon I will open a soap …………. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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