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Newcastle’s Chances Of Getting Midfielder Are Receding

8:52 am, Monday, June 9th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 137 Comments

Newcastle United wanted to get Remy Cabella into Newcastle before the World Cup started, but events haven’t turned out in Newcastle’s favor, as our initial rather low bid of £6.5M for the French International was immediately rejected by Montpellier Chairman Louis Nicollin.

remy cabella flying

Remy Cabella – first bid immediately rejected

And with Franck Ribery and Clement Grenier being unable to play in the World Cup because of injury, Cabella is now in the French World Cup squad of 23, and that could mean little business will be done for the creative winger until the end of the tournament on July 13th.

And at least one reason for that is that Nicollin will be hoping that his player first of all gets some playing time for France, and then that he plays well, and that would help to push up the transfer fee of the winger.

Montpellier hope there will be a bidding war develop for their 24 year-old winger, but Mike Ashley has shown more than once that he’s not interested in paying above his valuation – for any player.

That has meant that in the past the transfer negotiations have dragged on and on for some of our targets, and that sometimes we just walk away from the deal.

And that could happen again with Cabella, although a second higher bid is expected to come from Newcastle United this week – but at best it will be around £8M – and nowhere near the £12M that Nicollin would like to get.

However, Nicollin will simply reject Newcastle’s next offer, and hope that Cabella plays well in the World Cup for France.

This thing could drag on and on this summer – something we’ve had to endure in the past,  since Mike Ashley bought the club seven years ago.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target · World Cup 2014



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137 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 8:54 AM

    If we sign Gomis we should go all out for Grenier! They have a great partnership and understanding at Lyon! Baf is great for bringing midfield into attack.
    At the moment i’m happy with what seems to be happening in the window. If Gomis is a shola replacement then the squad is stronger. If Colback is to replace Gosling, the squad is stronger again. It will still be important to replace Cabaye and Remy though. Cabella and Grenier would suit for me on that one

  • 2 lesh // Jun 9, 2014 at 8:56 AM

    hey ho here we go again.

    When will Ashley ever learn – that’s assuming that we were genuinely after Cabella at all.

  • 3 Toon Tang // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:02 AM

    Receding more rapidly than Ashley’s hairline eh.

  • 4 Shaker // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    MA will earn around 70 Million pound this year
    and that’s after i removed the wage bill
    and added to them Cabaye’s money !!!

    HOW ON EARTH WE ARE UNABLE TO SIGN
    CABELLA ????

    even if that will cost the club £ 12M !!!!
    this is a small amount of money if you
    compare it to how much Ashley will take
    this season

    PATHETIC !!!!

    i can’t believe it :(

  • 5 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    It’ll definately hold up Cabella going anywhere but I think its unlikely he’ll get many if any minutes at the world cup barring injuries to a couple of players.
    On Nicollin, we NUFC fans get to paranoid he hates Newcastle. Nicollin hates everyone! Just only his rants about Newcastle get translated into English. He hates Toulouse, Monaco, Marseille, PSG just as much. The guy hates life i’m pretty sure

  • 6 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:08 AM

    Couple of papers have got us rivalling Everton and The Mackems for Curtis Davis today. Cost is apparantly 8m? Guy had a hell of a season and I remember him being really decent for West Brom but then being pretty awful for Villa and Birmingham? He’s not long turned 29 also so surely too old for us. Be happy if we’ve expressed an interest though purely because it means that the Colo and Willo partnership which is simply awful hasn’t gone unnoticed

  • 7 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    where is scott dan

  • 8 KingNash // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Yeahhhhhhhhh Cabella isn’t worth 13million. I’d rather get Grenier for that money, and seeing as he’s not at the WC we probably have more chance knowing the way bids go up after a bit of international exposure. Cabella is Hatem Ben Arfa trying to be Cabaye. Grenier is a non tackling Cabaye trying to be Zidane.

  • 9 blew // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    Ashley can only take advice on football
    matters from his manager. Little wonder
    his views appear to be impaired and
    retarded.

  • 10 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    i’d guess we wont get cabella now but “if” we get gomis/colback/perez then atleast we have improved on the players we have let go of as a squad (obv remy/luuk wasnt ours)

    i’d go for the injured grenier next once gomis is sorted then atleast that will be cm sorted ! (hate the fact we will have goofy playing lw next year if we dont sign a winger but atleast rolando will get some playing time)

    still need a striker/cb/lw/cm imo.

    and still some need to go.

  • 11 Ben3arfa // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Grenier is the more natural replacement for Cabaye and not Cabella.

    Cabella would be an upgrade on Ben Arfa .

  • 12 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Can’t ephasize enough just how well Gomis and Grenier link together! If we sign Grenier I will be happy for Gomis to be our number 1 striker! Watch a fair bit of french football, St Ettiene are my second team really! They had Gomis for a bit, he used to miss a lot of chances but his build up play and finishing has improved dramatically at Lyon, especially under Garde! He’s the kind of player that will probably play to the same standard aged 34 that he does now. Hes a 7 out of 10 player who will probably guarentee 12 premier league goals a season but Grenier is a potential 10 out of 10! Has the ability to become 5 times the player of cabaye and to be a 30m player.

  • 13 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    @11 ben

    i agree i see cabella more a left wing than a cm and ye grenier like you say a more natural replacement.

    i’d love curtis davis here also tbh even at 29 he’s still a huge improvement on our defence.

  • 14 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    @12 jay

    i <3 the look of gomis and think he's very suited to the prem but i've not watched him a great deal and was said by a supporter a few days ago that his offsides were very very bad (worse than cisse's) is this true and if so is it poor reading or pace ect that could be causing it ?

  • 15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Jay…what if they are Remy/Ba and Cabaye replacements?

  • 16 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Personally I find Cabella far too lightweight, really really doesn’t strike me as a player Pardew could or would want to work with….
    Suprised we haven’t gone in for Niang who was on loan at Montpellier last season and can play that Remy left striker role. Still young, very pacy and powerful, apparantly off to West Ham.
    Would look at Belhanda again from Kiev too aswell as Dragovic (absolute monster)

  • 17 KingNash // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Curtis Davies is not an £8million player. If we’re going after Davies, why the hell did we drop out of the Lescott discussion? Lescott is basically a better Davies and would be available for cheaper from a large club looking to upgrade that position. Makes no sense at all.

  • 18 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Bonjour messieurs.

    To answer to Belfast, (in a previous post), Louis Nicollin became rich by running a garbagemen company.

  • 19 geordie157 // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    So gomis, grenier and Lacazette?

  • 20 cyprus // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Did you watch France? Awesome. Would love to have a player like that Sissoko… Wait a minute, he’s ours!

    With players who are actually leading or starring in their teams (e.g. Deb, Siss, Tiote) and underutilised talent (e.g. HBA, Sameobi, even people like Abeid, Vuckic, even, yes, pardewed Guti) and several other very good players, we SHOULD NOT be playing crap.

    With 3-4 new ‘serious’ signings we should be ok. The foundation is there. Can AP develop this talented group into a team? Have my doubts.

  • 21 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    The club should not do any deals with montpelier.

  • 22 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Jun 9, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Spent nearly 2 million already on some Spanish kid. Two potential freebies in collback and gomis. Sound right up fatboys street this. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if that’s our transfer business finished. If so il be betting big on us for relegation this season.

  • 23 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    sorry but me too

  • 24 KingNash // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    @22 – couchy-spennymoor-mags

    Even if we only buy Gomis and Colback, we won’t getting relegated next year. More is needed, but not necessary in order to avoid relegation. Our goal is top 6, more signings are needed to achieve that specific target – not the ‘avoiding relegation’ target. That one hinges around keeping most our core.

  • 25 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    only in the paper but there saying we have agreed to sell vuckic and traviner
    does any1 one know if its true

  • 26 Lost Plot // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    BLEW : Ashley can only take advice on football
    matters from his manager. Little wonder
    his views appear to be impaired and
    retarded.

    VERY VERY TRUE … Any team is as strong as its weakest link

    HOWEVER .. If Ashley too blind n dumb to take advice of a like for like from a TOP MANAGER .. then he obviously pushing his faith in to Pardew (that wasnt a sexual pun)

    Id love to see Pardews wishlist if that of a blank cheque book

    I did feel for the manager last season when he was injury bound with actually none of his own transfer targets.

    ANYWAY .. HWTL ;-)

  • 27 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    @24 king

    i agree with only gomis and not forgetting arma/campbell/perez and cisse who will surely have better form ! we will be top10-mid table again imo.

    the aim is to iron out the creases and become a top 6 team.

    @25 beer

    not read or seen anything m8 so prob just paper talk.

  • 28 lewisnufc // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:15 AM

    has anyone seen the picture on twitter circulating of someone holding a top up in the ground?

    supposedly the lads mate works in the stadium and he sent it over .. doesnt look like colback cause hes not a red head haha

  • 29 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    @jesper – if they are Remy and Cabaye replacements then next season will probably start how last season finished.
    I could handle Gomis being Remys replacement (just), but we miss a Cabaye like player and Colback just isn’t it! If its true we have signed Gomis, the strikers that he and Cisse are create very little for themselves and work off supply! I’ve honestly no doubt that if we played with actual wingers whipping in 25 crosses a game either side of Cisse hed have a 20 goal season.
    I fear with Pardews tactics we could only play successfully with a front line of 1986 Maradona and 1970 Pele. Players that score from absolutely nothing….

  • 30 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    @lewisnufc – its not Ayoze Perez is it?

  • 31 lewisnufc // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    @jayphoto

    no mate its not cause the pitch is dug up and it wasnt at the time of the Perez photos. Looks like they are holding up the away strip too.

  • 32 anthc // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Gomis and colback are decent signings for free imo. Unfortunately I work in sunderland and they’re gutted we’re getting colback for nowt. As for gomis as long as he puts himself about up top as I think we’ve lacked a bit of physical presence upfront.
    As for cabella he does look small but doesn’t mean he can’t play in the premier. If hes good enough hes big enough. Grenier could be a good option now hes out of the world cup and probably could be wrapped up quicker than any cabella deal.
    We do need a decent ready made centre half although I’m not sure davies is the answer. Hes had more poor seasons than good ones.
    Typical we leave rebuilding until a world cup year so id be surprised if we spend all of our kitty now if we have one that is as ashley won’t pay the going rate nevermind a little extra!

  • 33 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    croftus

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we did sell them
    the deal is supposed to be with Rotherham but trav has an offer from wigan

    I don’t mind selling any of the younger players that were onloan except albied and cambel

  • 34 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    Jayphoto
    Why the hell would we pay 8 mill for davies when we could probably bag Caulker or M Richards for that. Cheick Kouyate is available for around that fee is a colossus at the back.
    Then there is Lovren who I would love at the club who might be worth a punt as it looks like Southampton are becoming the new selling club of the PL

  • 35 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    looks like Jack Colback. Similar height and build! Pretty sure that was rumoured to be being completed today

  • 36 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    @jaazyp – thats what I thought mate, just was in a couple papers today! Don’t really want Davies, not for 8m but i’ll be happy if they’ve enquired because it means they know we need a new centre half, bit worried we’ll go with willo and colo again next year, they really don’t compliment each other.
    Don’t really rate Caulker at all! Hes a centre back thats better in the oppositions box than his own! Agree there is some good defenders out there though, Cameroon have got some cracking defenders in their squad

  • 37 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Vuckic and Tavs for £500,000 to Rotherham………ya having a laugh !!

  • 38 jayphoto // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Rotherham have got a bargain if thats the case! Bet it comes with sell on clauses and additions if it is that low…
    Still shocks me how little we let Perch go for, he got Wigan player of the year this year I think?

  • 39 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    as we are becoming the give them away for bugger all

  • 40 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    vukic is never going to get into our team tbh he’s been touch and go for 2 seasons now if he was going to be released or not but tav will/would be very usefull to us imo as i think he will do pretty good in the prem.

  • 41 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    We need major signings to negate Pardew’s incompetence. Pardew’s lost the players so we need new ones.

  • 42 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    Well the countdown begins today for the world cup opener lads.Nobody expects us to do anything, But every now and again it will pop into your head…….maybe we can get out of the group stage. We could get through the last 16!!! And with a bit of luck and play out of our skins we win the quarters.
    Now the hairs on the back of your neck are starting to stand up,Were in the semi’s……….anything can happen now men.
    The gods are with us in the semi’s and we are in the final…….Holy sh@t batman let me repeat that
    WERE IN THE F@CKIN FINAL
    Now the whole country unites, Its the day of the world cup final, You have had no sleep. You feel sick……nerves are in bits……Ya can’t eat. All you want now is for the match to start.
    Its the last minute and it’s 0-0, barkley puts rooney through clean on goal. He looks up…. picks his spot and pulls the trigger and then………?????????
    BELIEVE BOYS….BELIEVE!!

  • 43 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    were coming home

  • 44 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    If you had a choice of Nufc winning the league or the champions league
    Or England winning the world cup………..Which would you choose ??????
    Personally as much as I love the toon, Its got to be the world cup for me

  • 45 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Jay…that’s why I am still a bit worried of what to come…or in this case not to come. I know there is still time so I will not just panic yet :)

  • 46 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Jazzyp mate…are you asking us foreigners as well? lol

  • 47 NUFC_CHX // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    The transfer policy at NUFC is a joke. The Only way we are ever going to get the players in or force Ashleys hand over the transfer policy is if people boycott stadium and club shop purchases. If people still pay for their tickets and go to the game, this only pays for the players and general running of the club. However, a boycott on all stadium pruchases and club shop purchases would hit Ashley’s profits hard. Instead of making banners and hiring buses, supporters should rally together on something like this. MA doesnt care about people hating him, he doesnt care that some idiot has bought 10 pints in his ground ground then made a banner. He only cares about money, if people want to hurt MA they should make a unified effort to hurt his profits at the club. This is the only effective way to protest against him, anything else is pointless.

  • 48 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Jesper
    Morning Buddy !!
    yeah why not mate……….Denmark have as much chance in the future as what England do have mate

  • 49 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    spell it out to him with paper cards “get out or sort it out”

  • 50 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    Jayphoto

    Got a link for that picture mate?

  • 51 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Obviously deluded lol he hasn’t got a jot on cabs

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/717246202?-11058

  • 52 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    croftus

    I would have a buy back clause with trav it will do him good a season in the championship

  • 53 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    AC

    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/717247191?-11058:809

  • 54 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Seen that pic but can’t tell who it is, he’s miles away lol plus couldn’t it be an old picture maybe? We all know there are jokers out there stirring the pot

  • 55 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Ta Jazzy but I found it already :-)

  • 56 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    its our new signing guttieriz

  • 57 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    “BREAKING NEWS” Colback has just signed on a freebie #Skysports#

  • 58 MrMojoRisin76 // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    It’s Colback.
    http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/06/photo-first-picture-newcastles-new-signing-jack-colback-st-james-park/

  • 59 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Breaking News: Newcastle will make a bid in the region of £5m for Burnley striker Danny Ings in next 48 hours #NUFC #TWITTERCLARETS
    On another note A big welcome to a Mr Colback. I hope you prove the Neggars wrong bud and prove a success for Nufc

  • 60 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    as if that will appease the fans

  • 61 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Jack coleback as been signed to add depth.

    If it’s the cabaye replacement then.. I have no comments.

  • 62 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    The Truth-Tudor
    Its a start tho mate aint it. Better than nothing at all, And personally wish him the best !!

  • 63 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    iLovetoon
    Agree mate he will add depth, But I don’t get why everyone assumes he will be cab’s replacement. 2 total different players in all aspects of the game
    Of course if this was to be the case mate then were in for a hole world of pain lol!!

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Jazzyp,
    What are you talking about proving the neggars wrong, most people think he’s a good solid signing but worried that he’s going to be one of very few.

  • 65 Mike's Iron Curtain // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    So that’s Xisco and Perch’s replacements sorted. Just Remy (see Ba and Carroll), Cabaye and Shola’s (Gomis maybe) to go now, even then we’re only on par.

  • 66 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Jfa
    Lets just say certain members on here and other sites have slagged this lad off before he has even kicked a ball for us.
    That’s what I am on about mate

  • 67 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Colback has just signed for a frisbee?

  • 68 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    the king is dead long live the king

  • 69 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    About France yesterday, it seem Deschamps could finaly have Both Giroud and Benzema in his starting eleven.

  • 70 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:27 AM

    Niafron
    You should Blitz the group mate do you think??. But how far will you go in the WC. Here a lot that france play better without Ribery than when he is in the team

  • 71 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    naifron

    did u see france was sissoko in the middle and how did he do

  • 72 Mike's Iron Curtain // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    Hope so Niafron, because I’ve got Benzema to win the Golden Boot at 40-1!

    Banking on him scoring 4/5 in the group stage, which he’s capable of.

  • 73 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    @Jazzyp

    Quarter Final seem a reasonable prediction. Our team is particulary fit and could outmatch physicaly many opponents, unfortunatly, Germany is on our road, and amongst the top teams, this precisely the only one in perfect physical condition due to their 18 teams league…

  • 74 Mike's Iron Curtain // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Jail For Ashley has shown his prejudice to gingers, unashamedly, so who knows to what depths his bigotry go and towards which groups.

  • 75 Blofal // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Colback done by the sounds

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/jack-colback-signing-confirmed-photo-st-james-park/?

    Even Sky is reporting it now.

  • 76 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Mike Iron,
    Are you suggesting that my jesting about gingers implies I may not like cats either.

  • 77 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Niafron
    I don’t see Cabella getting a game buddy do you. Unless of course you suffer more injuries. I think Nicollin Is thinking Cabella is going to set the world cup alight therefore punching his price way above what we have offered

  • 78 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    @Beermonkey

    He had an excellent game yesterday playing on the right side of a three men midfield.

    He could bring an interesting option for Deschamps cause altough Pogba is seen as the savior by many, he lack of tactical discipline and with Valbuena (who barely stay on the wing) and Debuchy who is very offensive on this same right Flank, we could be in trouble…

    And this is worst on the left side!

    So i would not bet too much on this team. Im’ far more optimistic right now, but too much weak points in order to go far.

  • 79 JackButler // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Nice to see that with all the money thats come into the club Ashley is still low-balling on transfer offer’s……………..the man is nothing if not consistent

  • 80 Blofal // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Who is Colback supposed to replace though? Anita? Gouffran? I mean he fits into the team but we are not desperate for defensive midfielders.

  • 81 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    So with Perez and Colback in before the WC and the club claiming all our business will be done by then, I hope we pull our fingers out before Thursday !

  • 82 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    @Jazzyp

    As i said 2 days ago, Cabella to the world cup is a bad news for us.

    Can’t say now if he will see some action or not, but this is really possible.

    Everyone in France agree about the fact he’s bringing something different to this group.

  • 83 Blofal // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Debuchy-Willo-Colo-Santon
    Sissoko-Anita-Tiote-Colback
    ———-Cisse-????————

    Still offers bugger all going forward

  • 84 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    JB,
    They’ve made a big thing about not paying over the price they’ve valued at, whose qualified at the club to say Cabaye is worth 20M and Cabella 6.5M ?

  • 85 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Bit of news on gomis

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/717255644?-11058

    Niafron

    Did France play 4-3-3 then? With sissoko in the first 3?

  • 86 JackButler // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Jail, who at the club is qualified at anything?

    They’ll continue to low-ball offer’s and we’ll end up with cast off’s and hand-me-downs…………………………can’t wait for the season to start ;)

  • 87 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    JB,
    If we don’t make significant progress in the transfer market this summer the only thing enjoyable next season will be watching Pardew squirm as he hides in his dug out, if we lose against the mackems at home again he’s going to wish he was never born.

  • 88 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    My guess:

    Sissoko replaces Cabaye in CM, Gouffran goes to RW and Colback is our new Jonas on the LW!!

    YIPPIE!!

  • 89 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    @Average

    Yes.

    THe team yesterday (probably the starting eleven fot the world cup except precisely Sissoko…):

    Lloris GK
    Evra LB
    Sakho CB
    Varane CB
    Debuchy RB
    Cabaye DM
    Sissoko RM
    Matuidi LM
    Valbuena RW
    Benzema LW
    Giroud CF

    But concerning the forwards, Benzema was most of time very high, close to giroud, playing like a withdrawn striker and Valbuena generaly assumed the CAM position.

    In order to give us some width, Debuchy and Evra played almost like true wingers…

    So you see, an offensive and a bit unbalanced team…

  • 90 Mister Tuff // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Hahahaha.
    Another good laugh this morning lads -cheers perked me up a bit.
    Nothing wrong in having a dream or hope.
    However, to even think England could win the WC and for Benzema to win the Golden Boot well I think not.
    Whilst you boys are entitled to your opinions do your therapists agree with your predictions. Please for the benefit of your own health -change your games – I suggest netball or ladies wrestling.

  • 91 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Reports coming out that Roma are in negotiations to sign Santon matching the TOONs price of £10 million

  • 92 JackButler // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Jail

    agree mate, this summer is the most significant one in our recent history, as if they get this wrong we could drop out of the league and I can’t see the immediate return we managed last time Ashley’s amateur fumbling’s sent us down.

  • 93 Blofal // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    I’d be happy with

    Debuchy-Willo-Colo-Santon
    Sissoko——Tiote——Colback
    Lacazette—Gomis—-Gouffran

  • 94 JackButler // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    England to win the world Cup, Shola to win the golden boot and Pardew to be given a Knighthood for services to football .

    England will struggle to get out of the group, sorry to say

  • 95 the truth will out // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    fatty and skinny out

  • 96 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Jazzyp,
    Reading that article in the mag and the first six comments are wishing him (Colback) luck and saying what a good signing but you choose to have a go at the neggars ???

  • 97 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    @Blofal

    This midfield is awfull…

  • 98 niafron // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Mister tuff

    Well if he score 3 against Honduras, this is not so stupid…

  • 99 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    JB,
    It’s frightening to think that he’s letting 260M of his money been run so unprofessionally, just makes you wonder what he’s actually had out of the place already.

  • 100 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    i’d agree that sissoko would be an awsome acm but what would we do about right wing with arfa so inconsistant ?

    centre stage for rolando me thinks ^^ sammi to up his game and cover.

  • 101 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Jail
    Why the hell am I having a go at the Neggars bud ??.
    All I have said is that rather than get on his back before he has kicked a ball, Lets hope that he becomes a good signing for us.
    Quite a simple thing to comprehend really pal.
    I at the beginning when the news started circling wasn’t really championing for us to sign him…..But was gladly told by others to give him a chance.
    you seem to have taken this personally jail as you’ve brought this comment up twice now

  • 102 Ancientcoptic // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Pardew could be thinking about playing 4.2.3.1 again next season, it would seem to fit the squad we have – with a mixture of midfielders/attackers and lack of strikers. I would be expecting Anita dropped with Colback in beside Tiote. The three ahead of that being Gouffran left, Sissoko right and hopefully Cabella in the centre.

  • 103 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    Thanks Niafron

    I think sissoko playing in that formation with tiote and colback or with just 2 in the middle with tiote really suits his game I.e a beast patrolling the middle of the park!

    Either:

    Sissoko Tiote colback

    Hba Lacezetta Cabella

    Or:

    Sissoko Tiote

    Hba Siem dj cabella

    Lacezetta/Pacy striker

  • 104 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Blofal:

    Krul

    Debuchy – MYM – New 6’4 CB – Santon

    Tiote – Sissoko – Anita

    HBA – Grennier – Gouffran

    Lukaku (Loan)

  • 105 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    AC
    Like the second pick better mate

  • 106 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Haha

    that came out wrong

    Take HBA out

  • 107 Shot Bru // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Colback is a good signing especially for free…he was good value for the Mackems at the end of the season…pretty good left foot too…

    If Roma want Santon for $10 million we gotta take the cash as he has been pants over the last season or 2…

  • 108 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    Krul

    Debuchy – MYM – New 6’4 CB – Santon

    Tiote – Anita

    Sissoko – Grennier – Gouffran

    Lukaku (Loan)

    Or

    Krul

    Debuchy – MYM – New 6’4 CB – Santon

    Tiote – Sissoko

    HBA – Grennier – Gouffran

    Lukaku (Loan)

  • 109 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Ourtoon

    You seen to have an extra player bud lol

    Jazzyp

    So would I but even if we bought the players in that lineup, I don’t have any faith whatsoever that parsnip would system it

    Knowing him it’d be 4-4-1-1 the tit

  • 110 Mister Tuff // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    niafron -afternoon – well France have got an easy group -(if there is such a thing in the WC finals) -Switzerland,Ecuador and Honduras. So potentially Benzema could get a few – France should get though the group stages (if they do not start arguing and fighting amongst themselves). However, at the knockout stages -I fancy France will exit thus ending Benzemas prospects.

  • 111 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    Shot Bru

    Santon has just turned 23 this year mate. £10m for a full back who will command more of a fee in a few years, Dummett is the only LB we should be getting shot of

  • 112 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:09 PM

    AC

    trying to sort it on me phone but daft thing doesn’t work properly….managed to sort it now though :)

  • 113 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    Ourtoon

    The second one as I think tiote and sissoko playing in them holding roles is scary mate plus it let’s the attackers get on with their job knowing the beasts are protecting the back 4

  • 114 Ancientcoptic // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    I would not take Sissoko of the right myself, in my estimation, he has made that role his own.

    http://youtu.be/t-J4FkDvjhc?t=5s

  • 115 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    JB

    I’ve not been impressed with the Italians mate, think they might struggle big time. They had worse results than us, the older players are too old now and the younger ones don’t seem to be good.

    Didn’t they recently draw against the mighty Luxemburg….They’ve not won an international game out of last 7 attempts either

  • 116 Shot Bru // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    Our Toon…doesn’t matter what age he is…he positional sense and pace is lacking most of the times I’ve seen him play…

    As for Dummet..the less said about him the better..

  • 117 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    ——————–krull——————-
    ———-colo———–will————-
    -debs——————————sant-
    ———–tiote———-colb———–
    ——————siss——————–
    —siem———————–goofy—
    —————gomis——————–

  • 118 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    AC

    Agreed mate Tiote and Sissoko as DM would be a scary proposition for any opposition and would allow the attacking players to express themselves. Sissoko on the RW does alot of running but I’d prefer someone who is naturally suited to that role.

  • 119 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Hadaira would be my preferred LB, So where does that leave Santon. I don’t really think over the last 2 seasons he has made a step up to the LB position and would like to see Hadaira given a chance.
    Dummett for me gets destroyed every time somebody attacks his flank and is caught out of position more than a little

  • 120 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Shot Bru

    Do you propose that we let our best LB go then and keep Dummett?

    Hardly improves the 1st team or the squad does it mate. To me selling Santon is a step backwards

  • 121 Average_Contents // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Ancient

    I disagree mate I think he’s inafective their apart from a few assists which doesn’t make him a winger

    He’s got all the attributes to be a box to box midfielder or a sitter like tiote

    I think if he played next to tiote in a 4-2-3-1 then someone like benny could do his thing and set the prem alight mate

  • 122 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Jazzy P

    Alot were saying that about Dummett after watching him come on for a few games, if Haidara gets a proper run in the team it might become apparent just why we have avoided playing the lad

  • 123 Shot Bru // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Our Toon…Read my post properly about Dummet..

    Haidara is a much better LB than Santon in my view..

  • 124 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    not a problem with colback coming in
    firstly pards aint gonna play benny now so I don’t count him

    so my concerns about colback coming are with no right winger coming in we have no real cover should we lose sissoko
    I and I think a lot would like to see sissoko in the middle he could then act as cover for a specialist winger which for the squad would be better
    and will colback coming in halt the development of young bigi

    windows not over yet but were dragging our feet that’s for sure so who knows whats gonna happen

  • 125 croftus5678 // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    @122 our toon

    hairdryer unfortunatly is very scared of the tackle nowadays (cant blame the lad a bit after what happened to him) but its something he needs to get over and the reason he’s rightly dropped for dummett who isnt as bad as what some are making him out to be tbh lol.

    santon does a lot of things wrong to make me wonder why he’s so highly thought of tbh and i dont think theres much between him and dummett but i would agree if hairdryer can get over his fear he’s our best option.

  • 126 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Ourtoon
    Maybe so buddy. Maybe he lacks something on the training ground that we do not see translate on the pitch.
    But for me he looks a far better prospect than Dummett.
    Like MYM I don’t think Hadaira has been given a chance, Where as Santon has had plenty of opportunity to shine over the last couple of year and has to be honest mate not really commanded or cemented that position down as his own

  • 127 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    croftus

    hairdryer could benefit from a loan in the championship to toughen him up only till xmas something like that somewhere he will play regular he will soon learn then we take him back at xmas just in time for the fa cup to start

  • 128 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    naifron

    5 6 goals is normally good enough to win the golden boot so at 40s its worth a punt given your group u never know

  • 129 jazzyp // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    Beermonkey
    The problem with that mate is that I do agree to some extent he needs games. we would be left with the same problem as last season relying on Santon or Dummett.
    Personally I think we need to look at our defence as much as our attack.Goals conceded over the last two seasons I think puts us way down in the relegation mire

  • 130 Shot Bru // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Jazzy p…a keeper who commands his box at set pieces and incoming crosses would be a decent start at rebuilding our defence…Krul is a fine shot stopper but a bit of a flapper under pressure in the air..

  • 131 Sliema // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Shot Bru

    Couldn’t agree more about Santon. He’s been shockingly over-rated for his entire career imo. It’s only the fact that Mourinho brought him through and said nice words about him which has allowed him to prosper this far. He is always, always the person missing/playing people onside/not tracking a runner/failed to bother returning from an attack… I understand we have more attacking FBs in today’s game, but he’s not even that great at getting forward! What’s he got? One goal? A couple of assists? And he’s been at the club for ages now!

    He might have been very promising under Mourinho, but that was a long time ago. Since then he’s had to try and develop under AP. Not an easy task. Plus our coaching is dreadful.

    If he’d been played at RB for a couple of seasons, we’d know if he was good enough or not, but he’s passing by that development age/phase now and moving more towards his so-called prime, it’s too late.

    If we could get our £6mil back I’d be happy, 10 and I’d be delighted. (Although, the issue these days is that when we sell a player, we don’t replace them. Pretty bizzare philosophy. But that means that in reality, we might as well keep hold of him!)

    P.S Haidara is 3 times the player Dummet is. Dummet is League 1 quality.

  • 132 beermonkey // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    jazzyp

    our defence is more important in a way cos as it stands we cant keep clean sheets or score atleast with a clean sheet you get a point and can nick a goal

    very surprised we not been linked with more defenders

    willo is a squad player that’s it
    taylor best described by some1 heart of a lion brain of an idiot
    colo has done well in the past but don’t wanna be here and keeps picking up injuries due to age
    mbiwa never got a run in the middle has made some mistakes in his first full season has lots of promise if handled right could be class

    Richards can play right back and centre back
    there are loads of better centre backs out there that would improve us

    I hope old soggy chops bids for taylor or one of the promoted teams

  • 133 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Jun 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    Colback is a decent start but again I’m worried he will be utilised as yet another utility player. We need specialist players desperately!

  • 134 Our Toon // Jun 9, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Shot Bru

    I read what you said mate, my point was that alot of fans were asking for Dummett to start ahead of Santon, now Dummett has had games we’ve all seen he’s championship standard at best. Now we are all calling for Haidara, another lad who hasn’t been given a fair go….whats to say he doesn’t end up like Dummett.

    My point is that Santon may well be the best LB at the club, selling him now without evaluating the only other option (Haidara) would just be foolish.

  • 135 ToonTiger // Jun 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    Aka HullMag

    Young hungry players needed not lazy show ponies. As always any rumour is just that until the shirt shot.

    I think montpellier are playing the pantomime villains to perfection again. Time will tell.

  • 136 Shaker // Jun 9, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    Forget about Dummett people
    Santon will return to his best next season
    if he did , he would be one of the best in the EPL
    no doubt !!!!!!!!!!!

  • 137 musomag // Jun 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    I thought this article was supposed to be about Cabella? Anyway, that ‘deal’ will never happen…same as the alleged PEA bids. NUFC’s policy of offering peanuts is insulting. It causes offence to club and player alike and leaves us looking like monkeys.
    Regarding Santon, MA will sell him if the cash is good. He is definitely over-rated and always has been. I’m slowly coming round to the idea that selling off our ‘stars’ then relegation from the PL is the only escape route from the pathetic way this club is being run. MA will sell up only when the cash stops flowing in and there’s no one left to sell. Get on with it Ashley you FC




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