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Newcastle Local Loan System Could Work

9:27 am, Friday, June 13th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 37 Comments

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew is keen to set up a loan partnership between Newcastle United and Gateshead FC, who are just across the River Tyne, and it means our young players who go there on loan wouldn’t even need to move, and it would be easy for Newcastle and the Newcastle fans – to keep tabs on the youngsters and at least watch their home games.

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Alan Pardew – likes the idea of strategic partnership

That would certainly benefit some of Newcastle’s younger players – as they seek first team experience week in and week out – and it would also help Gateshead to have some of Newcastle’s best young players available to them – as they try to move up the Football league.

The FA Chairman Greg Dyke talked about the England commission, and a proposal to introduce B teams into the Football League – much like they already have in Spain – as just one example.

Another proposal was for clubs to have what they called ‘Strategic Loan Partnerships’ with other lower league clubs

That idea would allow Premier League and Championship clubs to create strategic partnerships with up to two clubs playing at League One level or lower.

The PL club would be allowed to loan up to eight players under the age of 22 at any one  time to its partner club in the lower division, and it’s one way by which young English players could get first team experience so they could advance in their football advancement more quickly.

This is what Newcastle manager Alan Pardew said yesterday about the potential scheme:

“I actually like the loan system – one of the FA proposals.” ” I actually like Phase 2 better, whereby we can loan to a club we have a relationship with.”

“That makes a lot of sense.” “We’ve got Gateshead. I’d love to be manager of Newcastle and send a couple of players there.” “Our fans can help their revenues as well.”

“They could travel there to watch our players.” “I do actually like that second bit of the plan.”

However – not to get ahead of ourselves – the Football League clubs rejected both the B team and the loan plan proposals last week.

This is what the Football League’s Chief Executive, Shaun Harvey said after both proposals were rejected:

“Greg Dyke provided a detailed and thought-provoking presentation that helped clubs get a better understanding of the thinking behind his recent report.

“While it’s fair to say there is no appetite among clubs for the use of B teams or strategic loan partnerships in the football pyramid, they did share his overriding concern about the development of young English footballers and supported a number of the report’s other recommendations.”

“We will continue to work with the FA to help find solutions that will be supported across the whole game.”

England has to find some way in which their young players can come through the system and get first team experience, because that’s just not happening in the Premier League, where lots of overseas players are part of Premier League squads these days.

But there seems no reason why Newcastle cannot go ahead and formalize in some way a loan system with Gateshead FC – it seems like a win-win situation to us.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Loan Moves · Newcastle Fans · Newcastle U21 · Newcastle Youth · Premier League





37 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Slank // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    REPOST

    Buying a striker from abroad who has never played in the Premiership before is a greater risk than buying someone who has played in the Premiership. Some foreign players adapt and do well whilst others don’t.

    Last season fans on here were critical of the club because they didn’t buy Ricky van Wolfswinkel. Just as well the club didn’t buy him as it turned out. Perhaps he will do better in the championship!

    Our best example was Jon Dahl Tomasson who was a prolific scorer before he came to us and a prolific scorer when he left us but didn’t score in between.

    I’m sure there are other examples. Clubs can’t always get it right, even the best.

  • 2 70TWO // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    The loan system can work much the same for us, with CL clubs lending young players to get PL experience. We will doubtfully buy any forwards until a loanee playing for us is deemed surplus to their owner club requirements. So as well as a ‘stepping stone ‘ club we also become a CL ‘reject’ depository.

  • 3 Graeme // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Do Gateshead have some players we can borrow then??

  • 4 theartfuldodger // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Shanker is right….Our lack of Ambition is very evident publicly now…
    Having said that Bonys agent talks abt a top 6 club…We need to be quicker at transfers cause clubs between 7-10 are feeder clubs aka stepping stones…look at southampton…If we dont react quickly to players like cabaye remy etc leaving then we will lose even more soon and drop down…

    I wonder how this club does its transfer dealings…so many ppl coming out and criticizing…

  • 5 Graeme // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    70TWO @ 2 – is that not suppositary????

  • 6 Shaker // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Idiot …
    who cares about this ?

  • 7 BuckLuck // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    You have two types of supporters.

    You have the kind that are in it because of the social aspect. They love to watch Newcastle but rarely watch other teams and leagues. They follow the team no matter what.

    Then you have the football fans that happens to support Newcastle, some because they are geordies and some because they fell in love with the club in another way. They watch other teams and leagues as well and has a genuine interest in the game.

    I know what kind of fan I trust when we’re talking about football and what is best for Newcastle United.

  • 8 welshgeordie9 // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    are you having a dig

    Ha ha ha

  • 9 BuckLuck // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    And I’ll top that with this :)

    The sooner Ashley dies and Pardew is gone the better, as it seems like the only way to get rid of the two idi0ts. Supporting Newcastle now is hopeless. It’s pure torture from silly season to end of season.

  • 10 thai-mag // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    It’s would be a very good idea if it worked both ways because the way we are going lots of the Gateshead players are going to be better than ours and they could come to us then

  • 11 beermonkey // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    doesn’t a portion of the Wonga cash supposed to go to our youth and community projects surely this is the sort of thing that that cash is for
    all though I think the money is going to pardews wages and it comes under the bracket care in the community

  • 12 jazzyp // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Shaker // Jun 13, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    # Macas

    Let me remind you of Bigirimana , Amalfitano
    Marveaux , HBA , MYM , Santon ,
    do you think we did great with these
    and do you think we let them to bring out
    all there potentials ?

    stop defending this idiotic policy !!
    Newcastle was ABSOLUTELY wrong with the transfers

    thats a FACT .

    Debuchy-Krull-Sissoko-Cabaye-Tiote-Ba
    The same regime signed these players bud. You cant be right all the time !!

  • 13 toon kk // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Swop Gateshead player’s with ours, they’d probably be better, even if they weren’t SJP would still be full.

  • 14 Ben3arfa // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Pardew needs to be loaned out to Gateshead – Thats about his level

  • 15 theartfuldodger // Jun 13, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Buck luck..

    Thought provoking categorization of supporters there…
    Sounds decent enough…

    Btw where are we at..
    Gomis waiting for Turkey
    Montpellier wanting 16m for Cabella
    Hardly heard abt Lacazette and Lassoga…
    Grenier…Hmmm…Cant believe Lyon would let him go on the cheap…

    Lets talk about attacking players purchased in last 2 yrs…
    The answer…Yoan Gouffran, Moussa Sissoko…
    Reason….We refuse to go above 10m…Hence end up with defensive players..

  • 16 Graeme // Jun 13, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Ben @ 14 – What have Gateshead done to deserve that sort of purgatory inflicted upon them??

  • 17 spitfire_ // Jun 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Let’s start with swapping the managers.

  • 18 Average_Contents // Jun 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    From nufcfans

    Newcastle are seemingly out of the race for Hertha Berlin striker Pierre-Michel Lasogga, a player thought to be near the top of the their wanted list.

    That’s according to German publication BILD, who claim that the 22-year-old is set to make a straight decision between Hamburg and Hertha Berlin by the end of the week.

    Lasogga has openly admitted his desire to play in the Premier League, and was quoted as saying:

    “Since I started to play football, my dream has been to play in Premier League.”

    Indeed his mother, who acts as his agent, even traveled to England for talks with various English parties, with the Mapgies at the head of the queue.

    However BILD are now reporting that Newcastle have cooled their interest in the German, as have Bundesliga side Wolfsburg. Ashley and co were no doubt put off by Berlin’s reported £10million asking price.

    This is a blow for Newcastle but the club are not short on top striker targets. Talks with Bafétimbi Gomis are thought to be at an advanced stage while there is strong interest in Lyon’s Alexandre Lacazette and Burnley’s Danny Ings.

  • 19 Graeme // Jun 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Hot off the email!!

    The season ticket renewal deadline is tomorrow!

    Tomorrow is the final deadline for season ticket holders to renew their tickets for the 2014/15 campaign.

    The deadline for renewals was extended to tomorrow (14th June), giving season ticket holders additional time to secure their seat for the coming year.

    Renewal packs were sent out to supporters in March detailing all information related to their renewal. Those on the ten-year, nine-year or eight-year price freeze schemes do not need to take any action as their ticket will automatically be renewed.

    Once the renewal deadline has passed any seats that have not been renewed will be released on general sale, so supporters are advised to return their forms as a matter of priority to avoid disappointment.

    All seat moves will be processed before tickets are released for sale.

    Any supporters who have not received their renewal pack should contact the Box Office to request new forms. This can be done by emailing boxoffice@nufc.co.uk or calling 0844 372 1892.

    Newcastle United will not be issuing new season cards for the 2014/15 season so all supporters are required to retain their current season cards.

    Season tickets for the 2014/15 campaign will be on sale soon. Dates and prices will be announced on http://www.nufc.co.uk as soon as they are available.

    They wont be getting any business from this supporter, thats for sure!!

  • 20 catchy in norway // Jun 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    how on earth is loaning players to Gateshead going to benefit nufc?

    the world has gone mad,

    our young kids need to be sent to strong teams in the championship or big teams in Europe like what Abeid has done

  • 21 JAMSHA // Jun 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    catchy in norway

    exactly thats wat i was thinkng… sendng them to stronger clubs would improve an make them better

  • 22 spitfire_ // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    catchy in norway

    He actually didn’t say a word for “benefit for nufc”… he talk about “Gateshead revenues”. Which is moronic… but that’s the morons do… talk nonsense.

  • 23 Macas // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Depends what age player we are talking about, it makes perfect sense for younger less experienced players to go to a club like Gateshead instead of playing in lower tempo reserve games.

  • 24 Average_Contents // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    David Bentley has retired from football at the age of 29…. I thought he retired years ago lol

    Everton are in negotiations for lukaku and barry says kenwright

    Didn’t mention whether they were looking at another loan for lukaku or a permanent deal, if its permanent he’d be a colossal signing for them and just shows if you don’t fcuk around with bullshit bids and show at least a modicum of ambition then it’s possible

    As parsnip continually spouts, we just can’t compete with your Evertons of this world!

    Fcuking Cockface kunts the both of them

  • 25 christoon5369 // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    dont know how much hed cost but persic looked handy for croatia last night on the right wing, worked hard and whipped some good crosses in

  • 26 lesh // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Jamsha, Catchy…..

    The way things are going, Gateshead’s gonna be stronger than us!

  • 27 Laurent Robert 32 // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Let’s send Pardew there first of all.

  • 28 Our Toon // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Wow a day of no news then really, agree with you Catchy that it makes zero sense sending these lads to Gateshead and playing at that level.

  • 29 Laurent Robert 32 // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Slank, Tomasson was played out of position for most of his time with us. A 19 year old I think he was playing up front by himself for a number of games when he has zero pace and shot power was always heading to disaster. I felt sorry for the lad at times. Especially under Dalglish and his awful football plan.

  • 30 Belfast // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    It all went pear shaped for Bentley when he left Blackburn.

  • 31 Belfast // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Killing the blog again, must change this aftershave

  • 32 Laurent Robert 32 // Jun 13, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    I saw an interview with Bentley on Sky Sports or You Tube I think it was with Bentley and he says he fell out of love with game because it was becoming too mechanical for him. He was being told how much he’s run and this stat and that stat after a game and he was told to what he should be running etc. He just wanted to be involved with the game and enjoy playing football.

    Who knows, but that’s what he said. Seems a bit eccentric but I don’t mind that at all.

  • 33 Belfast // Jun 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM

    Just shows how crazy the money is, when you can retire a very rich man at 29.

    Lucky git lol

  • 34 beermonkey // Jun 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM

    catchy

    I think your slightly wrong a link up with Gateshead could prove beneficial to both, they will get our coaches (not the ones we have better ones) and wont be long before they go up in leagues with our help and players

    a lot off players would benefit getting games there its not all about the top kids that we want but ideally we will be selling the medico kids to championship and league 1 teams with sell on clauses
    some will rise to the top quick others take time and need games Gateshead could be a great place to start

    we wont do any of it, it requires planning and investment over time you will get it back due to the number of players coming through

    big picture great with our owner and the way we are wont work

  • 35 Laurent Robert 32 // Jun 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    http://youtu.be/7DlO6XZxNdU

    That’s the interview with Bentley. It’s good I think.

    I’ve said it forever, enjoyment of the football is what it is all about. Containment football under Pardew would have made him retire even early I’m sure.

    It will no doubt affect the flair players the most. No surprise that the flair players look to be on their way out. Criminal.

  • 36 beermonkey // Jun 13, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    Belfast

    it all went wrong for bently when he emptied that bucket of water over old soggy chops when they made champions league
    and dancing in his pants

  • 37 Barton // Jun 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    Well Percy parsnip right about loans n gateshead,cos i as a fan will be loaning my support to “the Heed” untill those knackers are gone/out of St.James Park.




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