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Here’s One Very Bright Spot At Newcastle

9:21 am, Friday, June 20th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 91 Comments

There’s a good report in the Journal today on 17 year-old Adam Armstrong – who is the latest potential whiz kid coming through the ranks at Newcastle,  and the lad made his Newcastle United debut earlier this year shortly after turning 17 in February, and he already has four appearances to his name for the first team.

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Adam Armstrong – up and coming youngster

But over the last seven years we have had young players with great potential at the club, who have just not made it at Newcastle for whatever reason, and one of those was Slovenian International Haris Vuckic, who will now be sold this summer.

Adam looked good when he was introduced into the first team, and he was one of England’s best players in their European U17 Championships success against Germany last month, although he missed the final through injury.

But we were still represented by promising young goalkeeper Freddie Woodman, who saved one of the penalties in the winning shoot-out against Germany.

The news today is not too surprising – that Alan Pardew will give Adam Armstrong every chance to make the first-team squad during pre-season.

There are already a number of Championship clubs only too willing to take him on loan next season, and if he will not get games at Newcastle, he should be sent out on loan until at least January, so his progress can be fast-tracked.

Adam will need first team games to improve, but we are hoping he could already be good enough to make some substitute appearances for Newcastle next season.

Armstrong is in the squad for the long trip to New Zealand, and Newcastle really need to show they can bring good young players through to the first team.

Our record on this is not good, and in the last seven years since Mike Ashley bought the club, we haven’t had one youngster make it though the ranks to be s starter in the first team – and that’s not good.

Especially when Youth Development is supposed to be one of keystones of the Newcastle strategy of producing good players.

It’s very important that Newcastle closely manage Adam Armstrong’s development and progress in the coming season – and we’d be happy enough to see him sent out to a good Championship club for the full season.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Adam Armstrong · Loan Moves · Newcastle Academy · Newcastle News · Newcastle U21 · Newcastle Youth



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91 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:25 AM

    Our costs should be the same but fatty’s on the board now so there’s extra and of course the non-descript payments to SD like last year that no one knows what it’s for and of course the massive black hole where money disappears into. Come on ed you should know better!

    For all the fatty backers out there can you answer me this?

    If the operating costs of the club are near enough the same which they should be as we have had no mass influx of player’s or no extra overhead costs, coupled with the fact we’ve got 35m extra from tv, that 95m + 35m + 20m for cabs works out at 150m before anything is taken off, of which 130m is pure income, why are we not buying any player’s?

  • 2 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Oh and before anyone pipes up saying it’s fatty’s money it isn’t it’s the club’s which they’ve made themselves, and didn’t he say we need to be self sufficient which we are now? Any money made goes back to the club? We will soon see!

  • 3 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    Sorry for the rants but I get infuriated with all the lies and secrecy that emanates from our club! What’s the betting that the profits are marginal? Very fcuking high I’d bet!

  • 4 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    Belfast

    I am now the official blog killer :-D

  • 5 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    average

    not to wind you up but fatty owns the club so its his cash
    the club did say some time ago that what we make would stay in the club
    we will see, well I think we are 1 freebie

  • 6 the truth will out // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    why bother sending him out when hen will get plenty games the season after next

  • 7 JP...from The Rock // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    I prefer him to get much needed experience out on loan at a good Championship club than see him rot in the reserves or wasted on the bench. Pardew hasn’t got the balls to play a promising youngster like him, remember Pardew playing an overused Strolla Ameobi in his place for the final minutes of a match, a match that we were winning. This club is so poor at everything it does, everything except saving money for Ashley’s deep pockets!

  • 8 hitman // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    he will end up pardewed.

  • 9 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    pardew is gonna give Armstrong every chance

    as it stands he aint got a choice with cisse injured we have no first team strikers

    cambel armstrong perez I laugh at liverpools SAS we have CAP it don’t have the same ring to it does it or any form of fear

  • 10 outsidethebox // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    ave contents @2
    what annoys me as to how toons debt stays the same surely any profit has to come off debt and as its “interest free ” it should be coming down …cannot understand how there can be any yearly profits without debt coming down…another cashley creative account jobs

  • 11 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Beermonkey

    Technically that is correct but by him, lambarse and the puppet saying what we make is the club’s it stands to reason that it is in fact ours

    What am I on about? Where fatty and his accompleses are involved there is no reason or rashional thinking involved

    Boils my fcuking blood the bunch of kunts!

  • 12 Oldgit1 // Jun 20, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    I can see Ashley’s reasoning in getting the club financial situation into profit, however there is a flaw in his so called master plan, it only benifits him. Not the fans, not the manager or the players.

    He is trying to copy Man U of the 80s trouble is, they had regular conveyor of developing players like beckham, giggs and scholes coming through the ranks we don’t. they also bought well although abit reckless, ie Ferdinand for 31 m but look how good he turned out.

    We haven’t got a strong core of players and it will never will be when Ashley’s sells one of our top performers every year, I haven’t a problem with that if we have someone to step in, or have someone lined up to buy.

    We seem to go from one disaster to another.

  • 13 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    average

    it boils every1s blood

  • 14 Slank // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Ed,

    You say ‘..much easier to sell now’. People who buy Premiership clubs are not in it for the money, Glazers excepted. A profit of £9.9M is absolute chicken feed to those that own Premiership clubs. That figure is less than £1M per month. It’s not a living wage to them. Many football players earn more than that.

    The club is very affordable to most multi-billionaires.

    The possible reason why the club hasn’t been sold is perhaps it is not for sale!

  • 15 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    oldgit

    it would benefit the club if we culd spend what we make, and really I don’t expect us to spend 50mill
    30mill now maybe 10 in jan if needed would sort the squad out

    we wont we will look at who we wanna buy look at there contract length and see if we can get to jan with out them and try getting them in on cheaper
    not a problem if you have a team but we don’t

  • 16 Slank // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Average_Contents @ 1

    ‘why are we not buying any player’s? ‘

    Do Premiership clubs buy all their players before the transfer window opens?

  • 17 the truth will out // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    has ashley went tits up he
    certainly has massive moobs

  • 18 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Slack

    Most clubs have them lined up whereas we,fanny about putting in shitty bids that he knows are going to get laughed at and ridiculed with the,added bonus of upsetting the club and the target!

  • 19 SUTTY1978 // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Just going back to the last article, NUFC actually made an operating loss in the last financial year, there is no profit to be carried over, the 9.9M should not be seen as an available cash sum to be spent. However based on breaking even last year and the extra gains this year there should be approx 55M in the kitty

  • 20 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Grenier in January is a fine example! Low ball heaven

  • 21 Ben3arfa // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Mike Ashley you fat coward , why dont you sell the club and piss off?

  • 22 the truth will out // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    i bet the tw@’ has a dirty black hole too

  • 23 lesh // Jun 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    Oldgit1….

    What troubles me is that Ashley had professed to follow the Arsenal model. He has to an extent by buying cheap and selling on at profit.

    However, we seem to have achieved the potential for self-sufficiency but unlike Arsenal, we continue to live outside of the real world of modern football.

    Yes, Arsenal buy cheap and sell those players but the difference between them and Ashley is that they get maximum on-the-field benefit from players before selling, selling only when they’ve a successor ready to step up from the first team squad fringes or a player targetted to buy. Unlike Ashley, Arsenal do spend big money at times and recoup that investment by annual challenges from the Prem title, domestic cup competitions and the ECL.

    Additionally, Arsenal are a global brand sponsored by Emirates, an international brand which names a splendid stadium whereas Ashley is content with developing an almost toxic brand in Newcastle United and bask in the glow of Wonga’s sponsorship while daubing St James’s Park with tatty banners promoting a tacky brand in the form of Sports crapping Direct!

    Maybe Ashley ought to visit Arsenal and find out how they actually operate the model he supposedly models Newcastle United on.

  • 24 derekm // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    lesh – good post, can I ad the thought that no human being on this planet would contemplate Arsenal employing Joe Kinnear, even as a cleaner.

  • 25 70TWO // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Despite wanting to see Adam Armstrong in a Newcastle shirt as much as possible, he should be loaned out to a Championship side as soon as possible. In order that he can integrate with a team during pre-season and hit the ground running, for his own benefit. If he stays with NUFC he will suffer and set back his development.

  • 26 70TWO // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    The transfer window has along way to go and historically more goes on at the end than at the beginning. However, the ineptitude that was attributed to the Joeker is still very much in evidence. Two, or three £10M deals would see the team, club and fans transformed.

  • 27 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    With the murmurings of Perez and Armstrong being drafted into the first team and now Anita saying he wants more goals, does anyone else get the feeling that we aren’t going to get many more player’s in and just make do with what we’ve got?

    Surely it can’t happen! Can it? They can’t be that short sighted again? Can they?

  • 28 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    70two

    agree a loan till xmas would be good for him as long as he plays weekly he did well at the under 17 tourney not long ago as did our keeper put themselves in the window so no probs finding a club

    on post 26
    I think most have lost faith in the club actually getting some1 over the line
    colback do we need him no not really it was not a needed signing and looks to be made cos he was free not because he was needed

    the manager don’t help maters either we are seeing the same things happening that happened in the last 2 windows and we all know how they ended

  • 29 jazzyp // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    AC
    depressing depressing depressing. That’s how I sum up Nufc at the moment. I cant believe for one minute that we are going to be relying on two untested young lads to spearhead our campaign next season. Maybe championship yes, But surely not the PL.
    There’s something seriously wrong when the likes of Burnley can bolster a better forward line than ourselves

  • 30 70TWO // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    beermonkey

    ‘Curdled’ seems to be the word of the day for Mark Douglas in the local rags and that is pretty much how I feel. Everything I see, hear or wish to say has been said a number of times, over a number of years and it is all very depressing. Everytime an article appears about a possible transfer target the quote from Keegan about under cutting the value of Hyypia rings true. Everyone needs something to believe in and at the moment NUFC are devoid of any trustworthy character.

  • 31 Our Toon // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    What incentive is there to spend? The club are lapping it up at present, spent almost £15m on 2 loan players including wages and yet still 50k attend.

    It’s quite simple really vote with your feet, stop attending and the fat c*** will want to protect both of his investments and will start to invest in the team. At the moment SD is linked to the Toon, if punters are unhappy with one of these it has a direct affect on the shares of his true love SD

  • 32 Rotonda heights // Jun 20, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    jail

    Think this was just for me!

    http://whatculture.com/sport/10-worst-decisions-alan-pardew-made-newcastle-boss.php

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    JazzyP

    and burnley have a b—y good manager too.

  • 34 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    Average

    Where does your figure of £95m come from?

  • 35 bettyswallocks // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    I think it’s very obvious that Ashley is preparing the club for sale. No money spent of note and none in the last window clearly indicates his intentions. As I was informed last week a sale is imminent and Ashley will take over Rangers. Watch this space.

  • 36 70TWO // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Cheikhou Kouyate, £7M to West Ham. Perfect type of player for NUFC and not even any attempt made, typical.

  • 37 thai-mag // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    Armstrong looks a good prospect but what will he be like when Pardew tells him to play at right back or if he’s lucky as a left wing back, only time will tell.

  • 38 Oldgit1 // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Is there a possibility that Ashley may be preparing to float the club on the stock market, I believe sir hall did this.

    Can’t see Ashley wanting to be answerable to the stock exchange though.

  • 39 Lee Dodd // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    If Mike Ashley Sells Up People Will be Dancing In The Streets !!!! I Just Cant See It Happening … Also How Much will he Rob From The Club ? Rangers Will Get Back into the Scottish Premiership so taking SD to Europe etc !!! Please God Lets Get Rid of the FCB !!!! then Pardew !!! and Some New Quality Players !!!

  • 40 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    bettyswallocks

    why would he sell now

    I just cant see it,

  • 41 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    So Pardew’s plan is to get Ayoze on the weights to turn him into something he’s not. The same plan that worked so well on Shane Ferguson. You’ve got to be muscle bound to play in the EPL, isn’t that right Alan?

  • 42 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Blackley

    The 95m is the turnover including sponsors, commercial revenue, tv and matchday from the last set of accounts published by the club for the year ending June 2013 which were published in Feb 2014 so it stands to reason that last season will be around the same as there has been no change in personel,(apart from losing players) no extra overheads, no loss from commercial revenue and not much loss on matchday I.e attendances as they averaged 50k every home game

    So we agree everything’s virtually the same? If not more! Add too this the definite extra 35m from the new sky deal, should take turnover up near the 130m mark

    Obviously there are operating costs to take out but they aren’t going to be 35m more than the season before are they as we’ve added no one only got rid!

    Again we will have to see once they get published again in February 2015 but I’m pretty sure my math is spot on here

  • 43 shearerno9 // Jun 20, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Why would mike ashley sell the club yet? there is no guarantee that rangers will get promoted this year and then after that there is none again that they will get champions league straight away.

    All this talk is very premature – best thing we can hope for is a sale in the next 3-5 years

  • 44 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Average

    The turnover doesn’t necessarily bear any relation to the profit. The club only made a modest profit in the last published accounts. If it makes more this year when tv revenues are banked it might spend it. We’ll see. I’m not sure how big you’re estimating the pot to be? You make it appear as if it’s £130m.

  • 45 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    I will be honest I don’t see him selling up

    I also don’t see him going after rangers
    yes it is easier and cheaper for rangers to get into the champions league
    but they like us will have no control over there advertising in Europe and as the Scottish league doesn’t generate anything like what the prem does,
    so why would he sell us and buy rangers it doesn’t make any sense he wont be able to advertise sd to the masses of Europe unless he put it on the shirts (some1 will correct me if I am wrong)
    I am shocked he hasn’t done it to us

    sadly for us he is better of sticking with us as the prem is shown world wide and apart from celtic v rangers the rest of the Scottish league stays in scotland

  • 46 Rotonda heights // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    bettyswallocks

    You can’t leave us dangling like that !!! More details please

  • 47 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    Blackley

    like I said

    Obviously there are operating costs to take out which take a massive chunk out of the turnover but they aren’t going to be 35m more than the season before are they as we’ve added no one only got rid!

    130m pot! Haha I’m not that bad mate! Although a hefty pot should be available if need be(yes we need it desperatly imo) and remember the cabs money isn’t included in any of this! Underdogs heating for fatty’s mansion of course

    How does turnover not effect profit? They go hand in hand! The more turnover minus operating costs = profit

  • 48 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    blackley

    I think the clubs operating costs were 86 mill
    for the last lot of published accounts we turned over 95mill
    leaving around 9/10mill profit
    that’s said our wage bill for the next lot of account will go down due to the fact we have got rid of xisco and smith both on around 5mill a year each I think also our revenues should go up due to the improved Wonga deal and other commercial deals

    on top of that the 35mill extra tv revenue 20mill cabaye sale
    but out off all that they will take the cash out for the improvements to the training ground 20mill I think
    and was said in the last fans forum that our stadium lighting needed to be done for the tv cameras dunno how much that will be

    but all that will be taken out and what left might go on players
    were also due to pay mike the next instalment of 18mill that he deferred a year ago

  • 49 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    Underdogs? Lol meant undersoil! Damn phone

  • 50 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Good afternoon lads!

    …it’s a shame about your World Cup this time around – I feel for you, but at least you qualified!

  • 51 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    Any Newcastle related news or is it same old same old?

  • 52 santonthenewmaldini // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    I honestly dont get where people are getting this whole Ashley to sell us and take Rangers over fully :

    You cant advertise Sports Direct in the Champions League

    Newcastle will make more money in TV money than Rangers will Premier league tickets will also be more expensive

    Rangers fans are more volatile than what we are they will protest and boycott games a lot more than we will

    He wont be able to get big money for any of their players

    Its easy money at Newcastle he can do what he wants and get away with it

    What I can see Ashley doing is owning us and using some money from us through dodgy accounting to put into Rangers somehow to he is making money from BOTH TEAMS !!

  • 53 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Jesper
    Lol were not out yet! Granted we might be in a few hours but not just yet!

  • 54 the truth will out // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    come on lets see some action not a penny more kill him off

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    tads…what do you need from the Italy vs. Costa Rica game to pull through?

  • 56 Toon Tang // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    “xisco and smith both on around 5mill a year each I think”

    This little snippet sums up everything that is wrong with footy at the moment.

    Brings tears to my eyes hearing them words. And not good tears…

  • 57 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Jesper
    We need Italy to win, preferably by a few goals!
    We then need Italy to beat Uruguay and us to beat Costa Rica

    Very very long shot and tbh we really don’t deserve to progress

  • 58 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Jesper

    Italy win by 3 or 4 would be nice but we’ve also got to rely on them to beat Uruguay and us to beat costa Rica by a similar scoreline! Slim to none mate lol!

  • 59 Toon Tang // Jun 20, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    Jesper, someone just posted this on true Geordie video. Don’t know whether its right or not though as my brains too fried to even try and work shit out.

    “if Italy beats Costa Rica by 2 goals for example any win against Costa Rica would be enough for England as long as Italy somehow beats Uruguay. The only unrealistic thing about the scenario is that Italy is a team that would most likely go for a 0-0 draw against Uruguay in the last match if that’s enough for winning the group. On the other hand the Italians are a gentlemen team and they might do England a favour, at least that’s what I’m expecting…?”

  • 60 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    You might not deserve to go though based on performance so far in the group, but I still think your game against Italy is acceptable!

    …you just need to show in the last game that you deserve to go through – granted you need help from Italy ;)

  • 61 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Average

    The turnover doesn’t necessarily bear any relation to the profit. I meant by that that if turnover goes up, you might even have a loss.

    We’ve probably only just banked the tv money. Is the transfer window even open yet? I’ve not seen any significant activity from other clubs.

    If we don’t invest well this summer, we won’t be able to cover for Pardew’s inadequacies. When the results bear that out, it will be time to boo pardew in his dugout.

  • 62 bettyswallocks // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    I posted a few days ago that a friend of mine was at a social function lest week and was chatting to Kevin Keegan. He told my friend who is a serious guy that Ashley was preparing to sell and take over at Rangers. This is due to happen very soon apparently. It explains the lack of ambition for the team and the fact that no serious bids have been made for any expensive players. This is completely true and my friend said that Keegan seemed to know who and when it will happen. Living in hope that it’s going to happen.

  • 63 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    betty….I am just throwing this out there, but why would Keegan know this?

  • 64 Spoof // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    “It explains the lack of ambition for the team” actually it doesn’t explain it at all as we have had the same levels of ambition for 7 long years, I hope this is right but I aint holding my breath !!!!!!!

  • 65 Spoof // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM

    Italy will have to go for the win against Uruguay even if they beat Costa Rica as losing against Uruguay could leave all 3 teams on 6 points so it would then go on goal difference.

  • 66 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    I am crossing my fingers for you.

    …probably going to watch a bit of Italy vs. Costa Rica later!

  • 67 bettyswallocks // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    I don’t know where Keegan got the info. All I can relay is that he told my friend word for word as I explained it. I don’t think he’s a liar , neither do I think he would wind us all up knowing how we feel about N.U.F.C.

  • 68 Spoof // Jun 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    jesper

    I’m crossing everything I have m8 but I fear its all in vain.

  • 69 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    Blackley

    Obviously it does, as it has a bearing if we made a loss too but if we look at it as we’ve got no more operating costs to take out compared to the 13 accounts as we’ve spent nothing on permanent transfers, wages, overheads then as I said the operating costs are around the same or less due to players being off the wage bill, then their should be a big profit this year end it’s as simple as that and if their isn’t then he is well and truly shafting the club and us supporters

    Simple equation:

    The 2013 season we made 9m, the turnover was 95m

    The operating costs were 86m hence the 9m profit

    The 2014 season with the same turnover( as nothing has changed) (96m) plus the extra 35m from the new deal makes 130m

    Operating costs should be down but even if their not, its still 86m or it could be more let’s say 90m

    That’s 40m sloshing around add to that the cabs money and it’s quite a chunk of cash, now I’m not saying spend it all or spend it silly but we need quality player’s and a few of them at that and no the window isn’t open yet but does that matter it’s only to make it official! All the work can and should be done beforehand

  • 70 DokToon // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Spoof, & AC,

    been pulling for you guys from my side of the pond, anything can happen in the WC… get your result, hope italy helps you guys, and onward you go!

    best of luck to you

  • 71 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Blackley

    Tbh mate he should be boo’d from the off regardless if quality transfers come in because his inadequacies have already been shown we don’t need lack of signings to know this fact

    He’s shite and shouldn’t be here!

  • 72 Average_Contents // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Doktoon

    Thanks but we don’t deserve it tbh maybe a draw from the Italy game

    Anyway it’s time for me to head off and get sloshed :-D

    Sorry for killing the blog….Again ;-)

  • 73 Markaccus // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Just a note on the Maths of Englands group…. curently our gd is -2, uru are -1 and cstrca +2. If italy win both games by one goal, we would need to beat cstr by 2 goals. Uru would be -2 cstr would be -1 and we would be 0. It is a lot to rely on, really.

  • 74 DokToon // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    AC,

    have a drink on me :)

    mark, it may be a bit much to hope for, but stranger things have happened in this tourney… keep your head up! you can also root for us yanks as well :)

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Personally would like to see Woy go Gung Ho

    Let’s be honest the senior players have been awful, not just this tournament, Gerrard, Baines, Hart, Johnson, Welbeck etc so nothing to lose Woy you’ve taken lads like Lallana Barkley Shaw Lambert Forster so use them see what they can do

  • 76 Spoof // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    tads

    I agree with that, Suarez is getting all the headlines but the truth is without Gerrard his Liverpool team mate setting him up then we may well have won that game, I sure he had a brain lapse and though he was still playing for Liverpool, I would keep Hart in goal as Forster is a dreadful keeper, too tall, any low shot and it takes him 3 weeks to get down,
    Hart
    Johnson Cahill Jajealka Shaw
    Henderson Wilshire
    Sterling Barkley Oxlaid-Chamberlain(if not fit-Llalana
    Sturridge

  • 77 Spoof // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    though=thought

  • 78 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Spoof
    Tbh don’t really care how long Forster takes to block low shots, Hart has looked more dodgy than Bruce Grobbelaar during his back hander days
    He couldn’t do any worse and is there for a reason tbf

  • 79 Markaccus // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Dok. I think you have a decent side. I think the germans are too good but if you get something of portugal (i hope you beat them) then i think you will get through.

  • 80 Markaccus // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Tads

    yeah the seniors have been poor,although rooney played well last night. Gerard has been shocking. Glen johnson sucks. Id give lamps his last england game, and play rooney, then just pit all the kids in round them

  • 81 Spoof // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    tads

    Hart has not had the best of times of late so it would not harm by giving Forster a chance I suppose, but generally I feel Hart is probably the best of a bad bunch of keepers at present, it used to be a position where we were so strong but not anymore.

  • 82 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    Mark
    Aye mate think Rodney had a decent game, was just talking overall (although I’ve also always stated it’s impossible to judge Rooney under Woy who uses him as a Pardew utility special!!)

    But by the time the Euros roll round Rooney will be, what, 30?

    But yeah c’mon Woy, you’ve taken these lads, use them, don’t keep trying the same thing over and over it didn’t work in the friendlies and sure as hell didn’t work in the WC!

  • 83 DokToon // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    mark,

    i hope the loss of our resident mackem doesnt hurt us… but i do feel we can get full points from portugal, with their player losses, and injuries…. germany will be tough, but three points v team ronaldo would mean we wont need a result vs germany…

    one thing about the WC, its nice to watch soccer every day

  • 84 toon22 // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    Whats “soccer” ?

  • 85 jazzyp // Jun 20, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    Fraser forster a dreadful keeper ?? hahahaha.
    SDJ not good enough ???? hahahaha
    Aubameyang only seen as a reserve CF ????? hahahaha

    Got a strange take on players some people !!

  • 86 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Average

    I agree your estimate of money that should reasonably be available. I don’t think it means we should necessarily pay asking prices. Some other clubs and players’ agents just take the piss.

    I don’t think its fair to boo pardew if he is getting results and doing well. However, I can’t see that happening because he’s clueless and so it’s probably academic.

  • 87 Mister Tuff // Jun 20, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    Who is saying that Aubameyang is only a reserve centre forward.
    Whoever it is knows nowt about football.
    Whoever it is -you need to change your game immediately -netball or ladies wrestling would be appropriate.

  • 88 Mister Tuff // Jun 20, 2014 at 4:43 PM

    Percy Parsnip…………………………………….OUT
    Mr Tubbs …………………………………………..OUT
    Aubameyang Detractors……………………..OUT
    Ladies Wrestling Fans………………………..OUT

  • 89 Rotonda heights // Jun 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    betty

    Appreciate you’re only the messenger and thanks for coming back with that and god knows we all want it to be true but how would KK of all people be privvy to the workings of Ashley’s inner circle?

    Knowing our luck if Ash ever did sell it would be to crap buyers a million miles away from the Mansoors he could have sold to years back.

    David james says Pardew is under pressure to deliver success. Under presuure from who? 17th place is just fine for Ash.

  • 90 Rotonda heights // Jun 20, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Mister tuff

    I think P.E.A scored something like 16 goals this season and is not been sold due to any kind of failure.

  • 91 beermonkey // Jun 20, 2014 at 4:50 PM

    RH

    its more likely he is privy to the people trying to buy the club
    if it is happening




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