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Newcastle Miss Out On French Whiz Kid

4:43 pm, Wednesday, July 9th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 24 Comments

We had a report out in early June that Newcastle were going head to head for 18 year-old French whiz kid Kingsley Coman with Italian giants Juventus, and unfortunately we have missed out on the youngster, who decided to go join that other club who wear the  black and white stripes.

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Kingsley Coman – chose Juventus

The 18-year-old attacking midfielder joined Juventus from Paris Saint-Germain this week,  after playing four games for the PSG first team last season and was being pursued by a number of clubs with Juventus and Newcastle thought to be in the lead for the top PSG youngster.

Coman has talked about the other options he had:

“There were Newcastle, Arsenal and Tottenham interested in me too,” “But I have chosen Juventus because I love their history. This was the club of Michel Platini, Zinedine Zidane and David Trezeguet.”

Newcastle need to keep going after these top young players, but we could do with bringing more of them into the club this summer.

We have been successful in getting top young prospects Kevin Mbabu and Olivier Kemen in over the last 18 months, and of course we hope to get more through the door this summer.

Coman would have been a great young signing for us – but unfortunately it was not to be.

Comments welcome.

Written while on vacation in England.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target



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24 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Rotonda heights // Jul 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    LGFUAD

    Tbh I think the ”Arsenal of the North ”model is excellent.

    I have no problem with wanting to sell on players when they have reached their maximum price value and then replacing them organically from within with exceptional well coached young talent.

    However, for this to work you don’t have the likes of Pardew, Stone and carver anywhere near the club, as that lot combined couldn’t develop a cold.

    1) You get a good D.O.F, ie a Cortsese or maybe Hoddle, a bit left field but knows his stuff.

    2) A young up and coming and hungry manger who has already showed signs of achieving things and is up to speed with modern tactics etc

    3) A modern coaching staff. Maybe we do actually have this already with the 3 Elite coaches at the lower age group.

    4) A far reaching scouting system

    5) A competent MD.

    6) A reputable sponsor

    7) Develop ties and integrate far more widely with the fanbase.

    Sadly we generally fail on most of the above criteria and requisites, perhaps most of all with a badly advised ”fit and proper owner.

  • 2 Whumpie // Jul 9, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    Rotunda – that’s a pretty good business plan :)

    I think perhaps we’re being unrealistic about the youth dev system. For a start, I think people fail to compare us with other clubs. It looks to me like it’s completely normal to only have one or two youth players come through to the first team over a number of years. The drop-out rate where they end up going off to the fizzy league seems to be 90-odd percent, and that’s what we’ve got.

    Also, the club’s efforts to upgrade our development capability only kicked in a few years back so you wouldn’t expect to see a difference at the senior level until about now. We’re seeing it, but it’s far too early to judge.

    Anyway. Just sayin’.

  • 3 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    We have a manager who’s afraid of playing the young kids. Whoever we got would be wasted for sure.

    To prove that he’s not, I wish to see these players on the field more regularly this year. Of course, there are also the veteran-youngesters…

    The starting 11 of these youngesters:

    GK: Woodman
    DF: Haidara, Good, Streete, Mbabu
    MF: Aarons, Kemen, Bigi, Abeid
    FW: Armstrong, Perez

    Subs: Alnwick, Satka, Gilliead, Campbell

    And Dummett is JUST 22!!

  • 4 Markaccus // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    We were never going to get this kid. Juve, arsenal, spurts? Like he would chose to come to this pointless waste of a club over ANY of those!

  • 5 Whumpie // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    Pizzicato, I think AP plays “the kids” as much as any other PL manager, and quite often it turns out badly. If he plays a 20-year-old instead of a ‘purple’ and we lose, are you happy about that?

    I don’t think he can win, tbh.

    The irony is he does enough that’s obviously shite that we really don’t have to start looking for new areas to attack…

  • 6 MAUTITOON // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    http://www.mlactu.fr/departement/herault/cabella-reach-nufc/2014/07/08/1224788

  • 7 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Didn’t this happen weeks ago?

  • 8 LGFUAD21 // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    Rotonda heights // Jul 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    1) You get a good D.O.F, ie a Cortsese or maybe Hoddle, a bit left field but knows his stuff.

    If you have a good enough manager you dont need a DOF. DOFs are for clubs that either dont trust their managers decision on signings or plan on changing the manager a lot. Graham Carr and a good MD should between them be able to cover this role with a managers participation.

    2) A young up and coming and hungry manger who has already showed signs of achieving things and is up to speed with modern tactics etc

    Yes. Tough to find but we should look abroad where there is more emphasis on the tactics and mental side of the game and get over this “It’s fine as long as you run for 90 minutes” that’s a stoneage english thing that is proving more each year to be rubbish.

    3) A modern coaching staff. Maybe we do actually have this already with the 3 Elite coaches at the lower age group.

    Again yes. Someone that will educate and drill kids into professionals NOT a kindergarten teacher to babysit.

    4) A far reaching scouting system

    I believe this is the one part that is in place.

    5) A competent MD.

    Yes. One from a business and management background with a passion for the game to implement the business model.

    6) A reputable sponsor

    Not essential but would be nice.

    7) Develop ties and integrate far more widely with the fanbase.

    Sadly we generally fail on most of the above criteria and requisites, perhaps most of all with a badly advised ”fit and proper owner.

    This is what I have been saying. I genuinely think MA wants to get us there. I just think he doesnt have the faith to get the right people in to get us there. He will only work with his cronies and people he can influence easily who dont know what they are doing. Every personal profile you read on him will support this idea.

    1) You get a good D.O.F, ie a Cortsese or maybe Hoddle, a bit left field but knows his stuff.

    2) A young up and coming and hungry manger who has already showed signs of achieving things and is up to speed with modern tactics etc

    3) A modern coaching staff. Maybe we do actually have this already with the 3 Elite coaches at the lower age group.

    4) A far reaching scouting system

    5) A competent MD.

    6) A reputable sponsor

    7) Develop ties and integrate far more widely with the fanbase.

  • 9 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Whumpie, we can’t win games with the older players either. And remember, there’s a purpose of having a developmental squad. You don’t buy youngsters, leave them alone and release them once their contracts are up. See what Ross Barkley is doing for Everton? Luke Shaw? Or last decade’s Wayne Rooney? Even Michael Owen? They excel when they are very young. There is no question for the team to try playing these kids in a bigger arena.

    You know, Pardew does not even try.

  • 10 Whumpie // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Sorry, but that’s BS. You’ve picked the three obvious examples spanning over 10 years and the whole of the premier league. We’ve had Krul, Carroll, Saylor – with Arma and Dummy coming through.

    All I’m saying is – that’s the norm.

    NUFC ranked fourth in the world for academy representation at the world cup, with FOUR players there. We really aren’t that bad at it!

  • 11 Whumpie // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    On the business plan front, there’s one thing I’d add: Get a decent global marketing team together.

    Our revenues have plummetted under MA just when everyone else has gone the other way. It’s baffling given MA’s “day job” that he can’t grasp how to up our revenues in line with the likes of Liverpool, but that is the only way to catch the top four – to match their income.

    Without that, we’re going nowhere. Which, I suspect, is exactly MA’s intention. Keep it small, simple, low-risk and mid-table. Ta-daaa. Free advertising.

  • 12 toonicle // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    Whatever happened to Bigi anyways? Looked promising those few games he played the season before and then goes missing for a whole year.

  • 13 OhSholaAmeobi // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    It could be argued that Krul, Alnwick, Woodman, Dummett, Haidara, Santon, Good, Satka, Streete, Mbabu, Tavernier, Bigirimana, Newton, Richardson, Abeid, Ferguson, Vuckic, Sammy, Armstrong & Campbell are all being developed or were developed at the club to some degree with varying levels of success, these are players in the first team, around it or in the U21s with potential.

    Most clubs these days only have 1 or 2 development players playing regularly in their first team.

  • 14 MAUTITOON // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    is ben arfa in newcastle?couldn’t see him nor goofy and even no jonas in the training pics.

  • 15 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    Krul is no longer a youngster (26 now). It took him years to break through. As well as Saylor. I am talking about the players from 18 to 21. Dummett just started to show more but it’s also not easy for him. Armstrong? Did he really show up in any EPL game significantly? No. We just kept hearing the wonderkid story and then they just diminished. Remember Vuckic who’s wasted?

  • 16 OhSholaAmeobi // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    GK: Krul, Elliot, Alnwick, Woodman
    LB: Haidara, Dummett
    RB: Santon, R. Taylor, Mbabu
    CB: Coloccini, Yanga-Mbiwa, Williamson, S.Taylor, Good, Streete, Satka
    CM: Tiote, Sissoko, De Jong, Anita, Colback, Bigirimana, Abeid
    AM/WING: Ben Arfa, Gouffran, Marveaux, Vuckic, Sammy, Ferguson, Obertan
    FWD: Cisse, Perez, Armstrong, Campbell

    As it stands we have a 22 man squad with 9 homegrown.

  • 17 OhSholaAmeobi // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    Forgot Jonas ^

  • 18 GeordieTwo // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    And a horrible squad it is OhShola mate. Half of them don’t want to be here and the other half aren’t good enough. I’m exaggerating but only slightly. Benny and Marv don’t want to be here. Vuckic is a walking injury ward. Obertan is hopeless. Cisse is injured and hopeless. Debs soon to be gone. Dummett isn’t good enough it appears. Santon is an absolutely hopeless defender. Willo and Colo are past 30 and Colo is injured every season. Allowing the squad to become a shambles is going to cost us dearly.

  • 19 GeordieTwo // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    I won’t even mention Jonas. He’s finished.

  • 20 Graeme // Jul 9, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    OhShola @ 16 – So has everyone else – He should have been moved out 2 years ago, last season would have been just as good. I have no doubt he will have no problem seeing his contract out before moving on.

    He is well past his “sell-by” date!!

  • 21 GeordieTwo // Jul 9, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    The squad needs a complete sorting out. What are Pards and the coaches waiting for, a miracle? Move some players on and bring in some decent replacements. It’s not rocket science. Or maybe it is as far as Pardew is concerned.

  • 22 jimiley // Jul 9, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    The world begins in Calais and ends in Nice. There are other countries you can buy players you know. The few decent French players we have bought are gone within a year or two, so why always France?

  • 23 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Jul 9, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    pizzacato at 3 i dont think you can blame our manager for not playing some of the youngsters you have mentioned .i watched bigi a number of times for the u21 and he was poor the cause of a number of goals .good rarely plays more than three games without being injured and is currently injured .streete through injury has only played around 30 games since bad injury feb 12 and was injured about 3 times last season .mbabu has only played 12 league gamessince signing in 13 winter transfer window and was subbed through injury in a number of them. went with swiss u19 and was injured in first game is currently guess what -injured. best young defender imo is satka who is rarely injured also

  • 24 musomag // Jul 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    FALSE




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