The Sunday People and former Chronicle reporter Alan Oliver are reporting this Sunday that Newcastle United want to sign 25 year-old Andy Carroll from West Ham, after the striker spent half of last season at the club injured, and played only 16 games with two goals for the Hammers last term.
Andy Carroll – Newcastle in for their former striker
Andy has never hiot the heights he attained at Newcastle since he left for Liverpool in a sensational £35M move on January 31st, 2011, and after not making it at Liverpool he signed on at West for £17M last summer, and he got a massive six year deal where the Hammers are said to be paying him £100K/week.
At the time we said the deal was one that West Ham could simply not afford.
In fact the People report says the Hammers are paying out £120K a week for Andy, and if he is to come back to Newcastle he would have to take a big cut in wages.
So it’s not too much of a surprise that West Ham may want to unload Andy this summer, because he an expensive player for them who doesn’t play that many games for the London club.
And in two full seasons at West Ham, the first season on loan from Liverpool, he has made only 40 appearances with 9 goals..
And since the Hammers have paid out some good money for two strikers this summer to bring Enner Valencia and Mauro Zarate on board – they could now want to sell Carroll.
This is what a Newcastle insider has told the People:
“Like all Geordies, Andy Carroll has never lost his love for Newcastle, and we are sure if West Ham agree to sell we would have no difficulty in persuading him to come home.”
Alan Pardew wants Andy Carroll back on Tyneside, and it’s reported Newcastle will pay West Ham around £15M to bring Andy home.
But his massive wages will be a problem, and we cannot see Newcastle paying the Geordie lad £100K/week, when he has been injury prone over the last few seasons.
The news is that Newcastle are preparing to bid for Andy, but this is not the first time the People have reported Newcastle are in for Carroll, but this time it could be true, because Andy is very expensive to the Hammers.
Newcastle still have to sign two top strikers this summer, but one concern we have with Andy is his poor injury record since he left Newcastle, and remember when he signed that massive deal to move to Liverpool for £35M three and a half years ago – he was also injured.
But this news will still be good news for Newcastle fans, because the Magpies will be able to get the very best out of the Gateshead-born striker, who scored 33 goals in 91 games while at Newcastle, where he graduated through our Youth Academy.
Andy will want to come back to his home-town club Newcastle, there’s no doubt about that, but whether he will take a rather massive wage cut to do that is the big question.
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84 comments so far
Sliema
Jul 20, 2014 at 2:13 AM
Comment #1No Thank you.
If you’re reading this Andy. You’re sh!t. You bring nothing to the table. You’ve completely failed since leaving. You’re actually not particularly well thought of up North, we’re not that keen on having you back.
Stay away lad. Stay away.
Blofal
Jul 20, 2014 at 2:34 AM
Comment #2Carroll would be a great signing for us. He will play his heart out for his club and a big strong target man who can actually score from set pieces is what we need. It gives us another option up front. Personally I would play him off the bench against a tired defence.
All you have to do is lob the ball into the box with Andy. But we also do need a fast striker who plays the ball on the ground. Riverie could be that man but nobody knows how he will do in the Premier League yet.
Blofal
Jul 20, 2014 at 2:36 AM
Comment #3Silema that is just not true. Carroll is a lethal header of the ball. He is out of form due to injury but if we can manage that most Newcastle fans will welcome him home with open arms.
bladeuser
Jul 20, 2014 at 2:47 AM
Comment #4Silema
totally agree liads of fans dont want him back if you actually watch him in matches for the full 90 minutes u will realise what a crap player he actually is height and headers is all he has about him the board and kenny must have been pissed when they bought him for the bindippers
lumping the ball up to a big man is old hat and has no more future in the game where was it in the world cup even a pleb like the england manager knows this but hey we have numb nuts in charge and he is as backward as u can get so stay away from the drunken ponytailed bum
expatmag
Jul 20, 2014 at 2:51 AM
Comment #5It won’t happen. West Ham will want at least their money back and Carrol would have to take a substantial drop in wages to return.
Forget about Bent eke as well. He is out till Christmas and having just signed a new 5 year contract last season, Villa will want close to 20 million for him. Furthermore, I cannot see Ashley pay a large salary for an injured player.
Forget about Ings. He has already been quoted as saying he will not leave Burnley.
Forget about PEA. Why on earth would he knows leave Dort mund especially for us when they are in the CL. What improvement can we possibly offer to his career?
In my opinion, Pardue will have to settle for our existing strike force and big mike will be happy with a zero spend this window.
89Norcal
Jul 20, 2014 at 3:01 AM
Comment #6Sure Andy, you can come back to Newcastle. Only one thing though. About that salary……
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g.s.tooner
Jul 20, 2014 at 3:13 AM
Comment #7@Blofal
Newcastle turning round an injury prone player and getting him fit on a regular basis? That’ll be the day. Our injury record is abysmal.
@sliema
Agreed. Good riddance to bad rubbish. He was a thug with no respect for the shirt. It is the literal fairytale dream of any newcastle fan to be honoured with the no 9 shirt and he threw it away for money. Its not even as though he proved himself as a premier league goal scorer and then left for a footballing giant. He would need to work very hard to win me over.
Personally if benteke could prove fitness is achievable he would be best option .
Or maybe Carr can pull another gem out of the frog pool nobodies heard of before.
Cant forget we still have Cisse atm too! His first half season wasnt a dream! He might come back to form with some decent service. Not sure he would play well with benteke or carol tho. theyre too muvh like ba and that just didnt work!
jimmysmith
Jul 20, 2014 at 3:14 AM
Comment #8West Ham gave him a six year deal on 120 000 quid a week. Allardyce should be sacked for that alone. He never plays.
g.s.tooner
Jul 20, 2014 at 3:20 AM
Comment #9Thats 37.5 million to put into context.
Dark Cloud
Jul 20, 2014 at 3:27 AM
Comment #10Sliema / Bladeuser
Do either of you actually watch football? I wonder…..’crap player’ ‘height and headers is all he has’ ‘shit, brings nothing to the table’…..are you two for real? Carroll is unplayable when he’s firing and fit, both on the floor and in the air….best example of his dominance is the Arsenal 1-0 away win a few seasons back. The only concern with Andy Carroll is fitness, he’s a cracking player and every Toon fan I know would love to see him back in a black & white shirt….
p
Jul 20, 2014 at 4:04 AM
Comment #11I agree with darkcloud, on his day he is a serious handful.
The issue is the story, it’s bollox. We would sign him on a free, that’s about it. if we were prepared to pay his fee and wages we would have had him last time.
toon-mali
Jul 20, 2014 at 4:23 AM
Comment #12Andy Carroll is sh*t and what are we doing with a player that west ham want to drop
ilovetoon8788
Jul 20, 2014 at 4:57 AM
Comment #13Andy Carroll can be a world class forward. He’s one of the best headers in the world and he’s aerial threat is one of the best as well.
He can bring alot of players into the game and bully centre backs. Shola was rubbish at it even though he’s just as big. I would welcome him with open arms.
ilovetoon8788
Jul 20, 2014 at 4:58 AM
Comment #14Even with West ham in the few games he played he was a huge problem especially against arsenal. just that players around him were rubbish.
jimmysmith
Jul 20, 2014 at 5:02 AM
Comment #15If I was Andy Carroll I might consider returning to Newcastle on a lower wage, not simply to come home, but because he really has represented precious little value for money since he left. He is a fantastic talent, but he has taken far more from the game than he has earned, and after a while that must naw at your integrity.
Shot Bru
Jul 20, 2014 at 5:05 AM
Comment #16Fat Sam deserves to be stuck with Carroll …120k a week…totally insane!!! Carroll has to be the biggest waste of money in the history of the Prem…combined transfer fees of $52 million in 3 years!!!
What has he ever done to justify that sort of money?
BOOM BOOM THE 1ST
Jul 20, 2014 at 5:08 AM
Comment #17Ask me bollix…
croftus5678
Jul 20, 2014 at 5:22 AM
Comment #18he’s not worth 15mil ! most he’s worth is 7mil !
he’s always injured and still not a regular prem striker we sold him after only a half of season performance to liverpool .
gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club)
Jul 20, 2014 at 5:33 AM
Comment #19Carroll’s turned into such a strange story. He can be very, very good when fit, but that is getting rarer and rarer. I’d take him for a cheap one or free but West Ham would never let him go cheaply.
The team has to be set up for as many crosses into the box as possible to make him successful which is why I think Sam Allardyce is so ridiculously bad- just because it’s the vogue he plays wingers on the wrong sides with Downing on the right so they can cut in- why do you want them to cut inside when you have the striker with the best header in the league.
It’s like he just does it because others are at the moment. Nolan has to play as well of course despite not actually being able to play that role any more, or able to actually run.
At least we don’t have Allardyce any more!
spitfire_
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:17 AM
Comment #20Jesus not the same sh!t… every transfer window is the same story.
ethiotoon
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:21 AM
Comment #21I’d take Carroll over benteke or lukaku..
Not sure he’d cost £15m but £10m may be a reasonable price.
nut meg
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:39 AM
Comment #22We’ve spent years scouting creative players who can also score goals.Players who have pace & a football brain,who have movement.We have now brought these type of players to SJP so why would we want to waste a potentially very good pacey,inventive, exciting ,goal scoring midfield ??? If we buy a broken down wreck of a CF in Andy Carroll then Pardew should be fired out of a cannon,from a ship far out at sea straight into the icy waters of the North Sea.
JAMSHA
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:48 AM
Comment #232 mil an il.take him
bobby mango
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:48 AM
Comment #24SDJ playing off Carroll could be very effective. Like Nolan did for us and now WHU, or how Van Der Vaart did for spurs.
Toonmania
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:50 AM
Comment #25ethiotoon
I’d take Carroll over benteke or lukaku..
Hmmm damn sure I wouldn’t certainly not over Lukaku anyway he’s a far better player, Benteke’s showed his true colours when he re-signed a new contract with villa after handing in a transfer request with a complete u-turn after villa doubled his wages, so we know where his loyalties lie.
Personally I don’t rate Carroll high enough to put him back in our team, we’ve brought in some quality in this transfer money with little /no spend at all although I do believe we do need a big strong striker just not Carroll he’s too injury prone
Lilongwe Geordie
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:56 AM
Comment #26“The Sunday People and former Chronicle reporter Alan Oliver are reporting”
That is all I need to read to know that there isn’t a shred of truth or evidence to back this story up. Alan Oliver couldn’t get it right when he had connections in high places at Newcastle, and is now just a washed up old hack who generally concocts his stories based on what cereal he has had for breakfast.
He doesn’t fit with the way we should be looking to play, he is injury prone, he has had half a good season in the Prem, nothing more. Yes he is good in the air, and better on the ground then some give him credit for, but going back to Carroll is not the way to move this club forward. Especially at the price quoted here. One certain factor in our transfer policy is looking for ‘value’ in our signings. Anything over £5million for Carroll is not that!
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Jul 20, 2014 at 6:58 AM
Comment #27Those of you who want Carroll at £15M probably need to find their wallets or so some serious fundraising!
…take a note from those Sunderland fellas, they know how to raise money. Big thanks by the way.
Read in the papers, that one of those two NUFC supporters was 44 lived in Holland and on the plane he had brought his wife and three sons 🙁
Rotonda heights
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:07 AM
Comment #28Not the headlines I wanted to wake up to. Does Pardew never learn? Well unadulterated hoofball it is then and pardew will be in heaven. Pardew’s never been happy playing football or even trying to, hoofball has always been his true colours.
If we’ve got 15M why the hell aren’t we going for what we actually need, ie a quick mobile skilful goal scorer like P.E.A, not a 10 match a season, slow non – scorer and hoofball magnet.
West ham are actually signing good strikers now and just when I thought we were getting somewhere we get this BS, another massive backward step.
Everyone knows carroll’s lifestyle have made him a crock, why do we have to be the fall guys just because he’s a geordie.
Spoof
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:12 AM
Comment #29Oh dear, I can see hoofball coming back with de Jong taking the Nolan role
Rotonda heights
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:12 AM
Comment #30allardyce has been told by westham they have to play football from now on, hence exit stage left andy carroll.
Ethio
you need your bumps checked if you would take carroll over lukaku. Lukaku is fast, mobile and scores goals. Carroll isn’t and doesn’t.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:24 AM
Comment #31Rotonda,
Their is no evidence that Allardyce is offloading Carroll. All the talk has been of him and Valencia working together as a pair. Carroll was part of the press conference when they arrived in NZ which isn’t usually the sort of thing you do when you are actively trying to offload a player.
Given that their strikers were Cole, Vaz Te, Carroll and Maiga last season I’d say it is far more likely that Valencia and Zarate will be replacing 2 of Maiga, Cole or Vaz Te – most likely the first 2.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM
Comment #32Their = There
one Tony Green
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:29 AM
Comment #33Andy Carroll on his day is class. Unfortunately not only is he an old fashioned centre forward in terms of a throwback but he also lives like a player from the 70’s drinking alcohol which has no place in the modern game.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:33 AM
Comment #34OTG,
Aye, on his day he can be very good, unfortunately they are too few and far between to make him worthwhile. Haven’t heard so much about his drinking recently. He could regularly be seen around Newcastle throwing back jagerbombs in various fashionable establishments in Newcastle. Not to mention the other recreational activities that he allegedly partakes in on a night out.
Bambams
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:39 AM
Comment #35One Tony Green
Spot on fella……
Andy will spend more time in trouble with the law if he returns. The City was too much for him the last time. Believe me he is nasty with alcohol.
Unless he no longer drinks and has matured. Always a possibility.
NEWEXPATMAGPIE
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:44 AM
Comment #36He was a good player when he left us, but has done cock-all since?
His England diving header a while back was one of his seldom high spots since he left us? Can,t think of any more, plus i can,t see any truth in these reports about us bringing him back to us?
The Hammers would,nt let him go for anything less than they paid Liverfool for him! Say what you will about the Hammers but they are not Stupid !
Plus, for the money the Hammers would want and his big salary, now we can better just go for someone else for the same money? There are the players out there, and i hope the club is after a striker, but it would surprise me if we sign anyone else now? It really would !
ToonMatt
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:54 AM
Comment #37Sliema you don’t have a clue mate.
He was class when we had him, you must not have seen him play mate.
This transfer will never happen as Ashley will never pay that amount for one player but I would love to have Carroll back, A geordie number 9 who loves the club.
expatmag
Jul 20, 2014 at 7:58 AM
Comment #38All this is from a washed up reporter putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 9.
He kniws we want another striker so lets look at the options:
Ba has gone
Lacazette probably too expensive
Remy going to Liverpool
Who is left? I know. Lets regurgitate last seasons Andy Carroll rumours.
Next thing will be Bendtner on his way for a medical
Average_Contents
Jul 20, 2014 at 8:02 AM
Comment #39Newexpat
Although I agree with most of that statement the part where you mention that west ham are not stupid with their money made me giggle slightly as the capture of Carroll for £17m plus his £100k a week wages and the more recent acquisition of enner valencia for £15m off the back of an OK world cup would suggest otherwise, obviously the latter could be successful whereas the former isn’t!
I personally see valencia having an OK 1st season then once the second season rolls around the so called second syndrome will undoubtedly kick in!
Just my take on fat shams antics in the market
expatmag
Jul 20, 2014 at 8:04 AM
Comment #40Toonmatt
I have seen him play a lot since he left and on the very few occasions he was fit and played well, i considered him to be more of a pest than a threat.
Furthermore, his play reminded me of the way Wyn Davies played fir us one year in the early 70s……lumbered round the ground looking for headers whilst only contributing 2 goals in 40 games.