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These English Players Too Expensive For Newcastle

2:10 pm, Sunday, July 20th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 23 Comments

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew was fairly adamant at the end of last season that Newcastle needed to get more English players into the squad, and it seems Newcastle have tried to do that this summer.

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Jonjo Shelvey - doing his (poor) imitation of a baby

But time and again it seems that ridiculous transfer fees were quoted for some of our English targets – and until now we have signed only one Englishman this summer, and that was free agent Jack Colback from Sunderland, and probably we will not get another one in before September rolls around.

Three of the players we are interested in are Andros Townsend of Tottenham, Swansea City midfielder Jonjo Shelvey, who was at Liverpool, and 21 year-old Burnley striker Danny Ings, who we were linked with again a couple of days ago.

It seems that Newcastle have inquired about all three players and were told the prices of each of these English targets – and we would hazard a guess that the transfer fees quoted were completely over the top, and didn’t present good value to Newcastle.

And while we thought it was going to be very difficult for Newcastle to get some decent bargains this summer, because clubs in France seemed to be getting wise to the way Newcastle operates in these transfer windows – that’s turned out not to be true.

And in fact Newcastle have signed French International Remy Cabella for around £8M – probably not including add-ons – and we got the impressive Daryl Janmaat in for a meager £5M from Feyenoord, and Emmanuel Riviera for just £6M from Monaco – and they seems to be (very) good deals made by Newcastle.

It would be better if we had more English players in our squad, there’s no doubt about that,  and we do have some good English youngsters coming through including the two Adams – Campbell and Armstrong – both of whom can score goals.

But unless things change drastically in the future, then it looks like English players will continue to come at a premium, and Newcastle will to look at countries like France, Holland and Belgium for their players.

What do you think about this?

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23 responses so far ↓

  • 1 roblee7 // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    transfer sage….you just know if we sell him, which seems likely, he’ll get his act together elsewhere. Sadly I think he’s came to NUFC at the wrong time and under wrong manager. If he was around in the 90?s under Keegan probably would be a legend. You just can’t accomodate a player like him nowadays like you say. You watch Barca, Bayern, teams at world cup…in the modern game every single players works there arse off and rightly so given the money these guys earn.

    On a separate note, I am genuinely touched at the charity money raised by those 2 sunderland fans. I wonder if in the long run this might weaken the so-called hatred between NUFC and SAFC fans? So its a bit more friendly like Everton-Liverpool type thing? Funny how these things pan out. I would personally very much like that, far too many idiots around in the toon on derby day and no doubt in Sunderland also. My Grandad was a Sunderland fan and though it pains me to say it, he took me to my first ever match when I was 6…at Roker Park!!! Luckily my Uncle took me under his wing and I’ve been NUFC ever since, but I for one do not ‘hate’ Sunderland…and in light of recent events and the football community in the north east, shouldn’t be too many out there who do now either

  • 2 Transfer Sage // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    English players cost more for one reasons.

    1. you can only have 17 overseas players in the squad, therefore need 8 homegrown lads and limited options when you consider that means there has to be 160 (8 x 20) home grown players in the league at least.

    No country has 160 good players so naturally the top ones here will cost a small fortune. The premier league is packed with money, all clubs get a good share of the wealth (unlike spain) so therefore clubs can afford to charge high fees as others will pay.

  • 3 Transfer Sage // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    roblee

    Football is important to a lot of people (I’ll admit I’m not a die hard fan, I don’t get to many games) but at the end of the day it’s a game, it’s refreshing (although a horrible tragedy) to see people put rivalries behind them.

    Hooliganism and problems isn’t caused by football fans, it’s caused by fighting fans who just happen to find the best way to get a fight is to link it to football as there has been historic gangs/groups over the years across many countries all linked to football.

  • 4 Sliema // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Forgive me. I can’t really back this up with anything credible. Also I think I’m probably contradicting an earlier post when I was feeling a little peed off with him… But I still have faith in Cisse and he ‘might’ just come good again this season.

    The problem is I thought this at the start of the last 2 seasons.

    But we should, we should create more this time around. I’m going out on one here and saying hell score 16 this season in all comps. (bearing in mind he’s injured plus ACON duty too)

    C’mon Papiss!!!

  • 5 expatmag // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Mike ashley

    From previous thread, why on earth would you want to spend the best part of 25 million pounds in transfer fees and a further 10 million on salaries for two overated english centre forwards who cant get more than 10 goals a season between them?

  • 6 Blubber tits // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    Offer Sporting £4m for Dier and allow them to keep him on loan for this season. Retain Mbiwa and begin next season with Dier and Mbiwa as CBs.

    Carroll playing for Newcastle is unplayable, he hasn’t shown that edge anywhere else, but Pardew’s lack of imagination will mean he’ll almost certainly revert to type if we sign him, using Andy as a head on a stick, with SDJs talents wasted playing as a more mobile Nolan.

    With the right manager, I’d still love to see him back, but at £10m tops.

  • 7 Sliema // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Good post mate. I agree that’s the reason they’re expensive. But it isn’t only English players who qualify as HG.

    Also 4 of the HG players have to be from your own youth setup right?

  • 8 bobby mango // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    Richards wants to go on loan. That’s one English player we might be able to get

  • 9 Belfast // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Probably more chance of you growing a third testicle sliema. If we sign a good striker Cisse won’t get near the team..

    Fingers crossed.

  • 10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Tads…that’s alright you just sounded agitated in your last reply. Anyway I was said what I think and why so lets just leave it at that shall we?

  • 11 Kc-Toon // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    I dont know if anyone has stumbled across these yet, But heres some clips of riviere grabbing a hatrick in his last game for monaco last month
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1FqhBmCfFc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3T067fRlU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2hpI4Ustvw
    Great footwork for the first goal and a cracking finish for the second

  • 12 expatmag // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Sage

    About british player prices…….totally agree

    McCormack……11 m
    Long……8m
    The bloke Hull signed from Spurs……8m
    Rhodes valued at 13m
    Ings valued at 10m
    Zaha……15m
    Caulker…..8m
    Carroll……52m combined fees

    Maybe we are doing the right thing after all

  • 13 Jail for Ashley // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    Never understood that saying ‘unplayable’

  • 14 roblee7 // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Jail….Haha, me neither. Its like saying something tastes soooo good that its ‘uneatable’

  • 15 Blubber tits // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    JFA

    Meaning, no matter the approach you take to defend against him, he will dominate you. He proved that when he mangled any defence he came up against when playing in the B&W.

    You do really understand it, you just like to be a cnut.

  • 16 dufuss // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    sorry blubber we need him now

  • 17 Blubber tits // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    The word play in unplayable deriving form the American Football term. Not difficult to infer, or are you autistic?

  • 18 Shot Bru // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Do the Irish, Welsh and Scottish players count as overseas members of EPL squads…if so, why do the likes of McCormack and Long cost as much as English players?

  • 19 toonking // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    whilst all this debate continues on who is to blame for HBA, the sense that everyone including himself should know that he is unlikely to be with us next season there, it puts a big question mark on why pardew should be recieving the blame.

    evidence shows that not even pardew should be able to prevent a player performing well when that player knows he is unlikely to remain with newcastle the following season.
    ba was changed from a goal scoring machine to a striker with no goals when he got moved out wide for the second half of that season we finished 5th just so pardew himself could put cisse there. That somehow didn’t stop him from getting that move away because now that others knew he had that clause he forced pardew into making him CF again as pardew would not want to have a carroll saga for the second winter running. So now that ba got himself back as the main striker he was bursting with goals week in week out and then in january he got himself that move he wanted.

    the second player was cabaye, that player was a player who had a fairly disappointing season during the europa league season, the problem now was he wasn’t getting such an easy way of moving because the money ashley wanted was too high a price for others knowing he had a bad season, so as the strike failed cabaye was now left with just one option, he had to prove to others he would get lots of assists and score the goal, that is just what he did and now he was sold to PSG.

    the 3rd and final player i speak of is remy who like ba and cabaye was unable to move to the decent club the summer he wanted to because unfortunately for him there wages were to high a risk for a player who has not been here long, so now he took the next best option and that was a move to us, if he were to read what people keep saying about HBA then the last thing he should be doing is coming to us on loan but no he still opted to come to newcastle and expected to be showing other teams he can score enough goals to be worthy of a move up to that team, like ba and cabaye he too proved that even pardew can’t stop a player who really wants to move to perform well enough for that move.

    marvo himself this year knows he is unlikely to remain so he went and got himself fit, so he now has had links to other clubs.

    which get to point where i ask why can’t HBA do the very same thing himself.

    pardew might pick who starts and who is sub but what he doesn’t do is A) make the players meals, B)control the legs or make the passes and finally C) control the players attitude. these are up to the player himself and right now even rodgers would not accept a player acting in the manner like HBA is acting, just ask suaez.

  • 20 Sazzer // Jul 20, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    We are good in the homegrown apartment for now and a lot of promising youngsters coming up to take their spots.

    But it wouldn’t hurt to upgrade some of our HG:s with upcoming players Ings, Dier, Lascelles, Maguire, Hughes, Cousins, Obita etc.

    And maybe Zaha if his price goes down.

  • 21 Markaccus // Jul 20, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    For the love of all things happy and sunny and bright and stuff…..

    It is spelled ANALYSE!!!!!

    ANALIZE means something VERY different

    1.

       

    Analize

    To do someone in the butt

    I want to analize that broad

  • 22 Crawfordladd17 // Jul 20, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    Do we even have 8 English players? Colback, the two Taylors, Williamson, Bigirimana, Elliot(he has played for ROI but he is born and just because he dad is part Irish doesn’t mean he is) Sammy and the two Adam’s who may as well not be at the club under Pardew. Homegrown includes players like Krul and Ferguson.

  • 23 thepict // Jul 20, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Markkas, Analyze to seperat into its component parts. Chambers dictionary . Nowt to do with sodomy




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