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Newcastle Holding Talks On Andy Carroll Deal Down Under

12:18 am, Monday, July 21st, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 75 Comments

There was news yesterday that Newcastle were once again interested in signing Andy Carroll from West Ham, and bringing the Gateshead-born striker back to Tyneside.

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Andy Carroll – while at Newcastle

And it just so happens that Andy and West Ham are taking part in the same tournament that Newcastle United are also participating in down under in New Zealand over the coming week, with the first games tomorrow night.

And there is news coming out of New Zealand that the two clubs are negotiating a deal that could see Andy Carroll become a Newcastle United player again.

The news was in the People yesterday from Alan Oliver, that Newcastle manager Alan Pardew was interested in signing the former Newcastle striker and that Newcastle were willing to pay as much as £15M for Carroll – which seems to us to be a high fee.

Since Andy left Newcastle his career has been on a downward spiral, and he has never been able to reproduce the form he showed in the famous black and white stripes of Newcastle.

But we also believe he could re-ignite his career if he did return to Newcastle, but one worry we have is his poor injury record since he left Tyneside – and he’s missed a lot of playing time with a number of different injuries while at West Ham.

But it seems that Newcastle are still trying to sign players we need, with Andy Carroll presumably one of those targets, and there is news that Newcastle may be back in for Clement Grenier who is officially available for transfer and will leave Lyon this summer.

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75 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:24 AM

    Nufc spending 15 million on one player. Doesn’t sound right.
    Unless Mashley believes he can get 35 million for him again, which I doubt.

  • 2 123 Dummet Time // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:25 AM

    Once a flop, always a flop.

  • 3 Toon Tang // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    Like I said in a previous correspondence, buy him back for 10m and then sell him to Lpool for 35m. Awld Mashley would love that bit of business.

  • 4 spitfire_ // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:29 AM

    Please GOD no… and I don’t even believe in god.

  • 5 kakaobi // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:30 AM

    Is this to fit in with pardews only tactic suppose Nolan will be next haha

  • 6 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:33 AM

    More realistic I can see West ham willing to take a hit to offload him. They will want 10 to 12 million. We will offer around 8 million. Could settle about 9 or 10m

  • 7 Brutooon // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    10-15million is ok BUT i doubt:

    1) we pay 120k for his salary
    2) he took a paycut to join us

  • 8 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    Our strikers could be Carroll, Riviere, Cisse, Campbell and de jong fill in over now and again. Which looks good 2 me.
    I know Carroll and cisse are lazy but they could do better with less games and more competition for places. Let’s be optimistic

  • 9 musomag // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    I liked Andy C a lot while he was here but if we are genuinely considering spending £15 million on a striker then we should be all over Bony or Lukaku, especially while LFC’s head is turned in Remy’s direction.

  • 10 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    I would have Riviere and Campbell starting upfront with de jong playing behind.
    Cisse and Carroll on the bench. Now that’s depth we’ve not had for a very long time.

  • 11 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    Oh yeah musomag. Like the sounds of that. Bony of lakaku instead. Mind u they both will most likely say they want champ league.

  • 12 jimmysmith // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:46 AM

    It’s a difficult position for West Ham and the player. I suppose he might think he can justify the transfer fee and high wages by turning it on for West Ham, but his injury record would suggest that’s highly unlikely. More realistically a ten million pound transfer back to the Toon on 70 000 a week, would be about the best solution for all concerned. Carroll at his best is worth considerably more, but getting him on the pitch for long periods is proving a major issue.

  • 13 The_Toon // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    Since the day he left to Liverpool I’ve told my mates this lad will be back again because of the manner in which he left. Every season now we are linked with a story of Andy coming back. Surely this will come true soon and believe me he will re-ignite his career.

  • 14 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 21, 2014 at 12:53 AM

    I can defies see him taking a pay cut for first team football, plus to come back home.

  • 15 Sazzer // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:02 AM

    Pardews tactics if we get Grenier,

    1.Sit back until Cabella gets a freekick
    2, Grenier scores from long-range, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTcELpYGCs
    3.Protect the lead.
    4. Rinse and repeat.

  • 16 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    Garbage. He will not return. This is a reporter making up the annual story on Carroll because both NUFC and WHU are both in NZ on pre season tours

  • 17 2_goal_tino // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    @Shadow- Campbell? What has he ever done to warrant being considered a starter? He has done nothing in the albeit limited playing time he has got in the first team, he barely cut it in the SPL and Armstrong has leapfrogged him in the pecking order!

  • 18 jimmysmith // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:07 AM

    Actually, there are a few reasons why it might happen, uppermost among them that we do need a target man and Carroll would certainly ignite a crowd that is in need of a lift. That might be enough to tip the scales, but those wages are a big sticking point. Beardsley came back successfully and Shearer came home, so there’s a precedence, even if going back is generally considered to be unwise.

  • 19 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    Jimmy

    How about over priced, high earnings, injury prone, lack of goal scoring prowess, love of the night life and most of all, fails to fit into our passing game plan (hopefully).

    Enough reasons not to sign him?

  • 20 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    So please help me out, Grenier and Cabella are different kinds of player. How could they all be considered as Cabaye’s successors?

    As of Carroll’s situation, this one is going to be resurrected until he is retired. The media is going to tell you every summer and winter we are linked to him.

  • 21 Charlietoon // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:16 AM

    Shadow Shearer you’d have Campbell playing up front. I’d rather Armstrong if we were just going to chuck a young fella up there. Campbell is more of a winger is her not?

  • 22 jimmysmith // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:18 AM

    All true expat, but in his favor a genuinely thrilling performer on his day and an immense handful for defenders which often goes unrecognized, as well as an entirely legitimate Geordie number nine, which of course we all love.

  • 23 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Pizzicato

    I think the general consensus is Cabella is HBAs replacement and currently De Jong has the creative talent to replace Cavaye.

    I think the talk of Carroll and Grenier is all pie in the sky.

    What interests me more is Beardsley’s comments about the imminent signing of PEA whilst the reserves were playing Gateshead recently. I would love to know where all this came from and if there is any truth in it.

  • 24 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:23 AM

    Jimmy

    Your namesake was a genuine thrilling player on his day too and like Carroll, those days were few and far between.

  • 25 Sav // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:24 AM

    Even if we were looking to buy back Carroll, which I doubt very much, Considering the hammers are paying him 6 million per year, I’d imagine they would pay someone to take him. £15 million fee is rubbish.

  • 26 Sliema // Jul 21, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    Ashley will not pay anywhere near £120k per week. Not a chance.

    This is a non-starter put out there by none other than Alan Oliver, yeh, pretty reliable source eh? Give over.

  • 27 Sazzer // Jul 21, 2014 at 2:07 AM

    Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie
    None of Cabella, Grenier and De Jong is like for like replacement for Cabaye.

    They can all play AM/CM but they do it a different way.
    De Jong can play striker
    Cabella winger
    and Grenier is mainly a AM/CM

  • 28 Sazzer // Jul 21, 2014 at 2:10 AM

    They all are somewhat better than Cabaye without the ball.

    And Cabaye is better than all of them defensively.

  • 29 darrylwe // Jul 21, 2014 at 2:17 AM

    How do you see our midfield lining up? Assuming HBA, Marv & Guti leave, Bigi, Ameobi, & Abeid also go else where. Who starts? does Anita get a game? or even Colbeck?

  • 30 Thump // Jul 21, 2014 at 2:54 AM

    @darryl: A smart manager would put Anita and Colback into rotation, and play Sissoko more. Unfortunately we’ve got Pardew, so Colback and Anita won’t get a game until injuries strike, and then he can blame it on them.

  • 31 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 2:54 AM

    @sazzer That’s why pardew will play a 4231 formation. Odds on he wants cabella, de jong, sissoko/grenier behind carroll or riviere with tiote and colbeck or anita as cdm’s

  • 32 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:01 AM

    If a fully fit squad, I woukd expect Pardew to field the following team:

    Krul

    Jaanmat, Williamson, Collocini, Santon

    Tiote, Colback

    Sissoko, De Jong, Cabella

    Riviere

    Subs: Elliott, Saylor, Anita, Cisse, Haidara, Dummett, Armstrong

  • 33 ethiotoon // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:29 AM

    Lilo
    Carroll is our favorite player right?and you want him to come back instead of bringing Grenier, so which one do u think will benefit us the most?

  • 34 Blofal // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:37 AM

    123 Dummett… that is a stupid comment.

    We didn’t bag £35 million for him because he was a flop… quite the opposite actually.

    He has just been injured for WH and didn’t fit into the style of play that Brendon Rodgers wanted to implement.

  • 35 Blofal // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:43 AM

    If we can nab Grenier I would actually ne excited about this season…

    Janmaat – Willo – Colo – Haidara
    ————–Tiote
    Sissoko – Grenier – DeJong – Cabella
    ————-Striker

    That is exciting especially considering that striker could be Carroll, Benteke, Cisse or Riverie given the way things are playing outm

  • 36 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:52 AM

    Blofal

    I doubt we will bring Grenier or Carroll in. In fact, the only signing I see us making is a loan CH luke Richards if Assley sells MYM.

  • 37 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:52 AM

    Like not luke….lol

  • 38 Blofal // Jul 21, 2014 at 3:57 AM

    Expat I didn’t think we would get Cabella or pay anywhere near what we did for him. So now I’m overly optimistic :)

  • 39 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 4:02 AM

    Blofal

    We are basically overstacked with midfielders and have at least 4 of them which need to be moved on before any further signings can be made.

    Ashley will already be keeping an eye on the wage bill and unless the club can move out the lijes of HBA Marveaux Obertan Abeid and MYM, i doubt he will spend anymore

  • 40 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 4:26 AM

    First of all New Zealand is not down under. Australia is “the land down under” The neighbours are just sheep shaggers. Secondly nufc would have benefited more to have their friendlies in oz. 8000 tickets sold for the first match is so poor. They would have benefited from more exposure in oz . Ill have to put up with my local team playing Malaga at home this weekend instead.

  • 41 ramajama // Jul 21, 2014 at 5:08 AM

    Easy on WestOzMag

  • 42 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 5:25 AM

    I don’t mind having Andy back, he will give option to our attack. If he could ressurect his form then why not. I would assume we will get him on loan with option to buy. So if he failed then just return him to whu.
    I think we already got what we want this summer and if there are anymore players coming in will be on loan. I’m happy with what we have now.
    Strikers: Riviere, Cisse, Armstrong, Campbell, Gouffran, possibly Andy.

  • 43 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 5:44 AM

    Lineup

    ———————Krul———————
    Janmaat—-Willo———-Colo—–Raylor
    ————Anita———-Collback———-
    Cabella————SDJ————-Gouffran
    ——————Riviere——————–

    If Santon is not injured, I would prefer he play as winger. I also prefer Anita than Tiote, I think Anita has more brain than Tiote.

  • 44 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:03 AM

    Santon

    Trouble with your selection is tiote is vice captain and more physical than anita and whilst the latter is a good footballer, he doesnt have the physical presence for that position.

    Also……where is Moussa??????

    You cannot seriously leave him out

  • 45 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:16 AM

    Yea I forgot about Sissoko, either Anita or Gouffran replaced by Sissoko.
    I don’t like Tiote, he is too dangerous for the team. His silly tackles and losing the ball trying to be a playmaker always bring trouble and it’s in our dangerous area most of the time.

  • 46 thai-mag // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:26 AM

    Apart from Alan Oliver in the People, where is this nonsense about Carroll coming from

  • 47 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:31 AM

    @Santon3 Do you think playing 1 up front at home with that formation is beneficial? Maybe away would be better but at home I’d be more happy with 2 st’s up front

  • 48 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:34 AM

    Also Santon, how can one put Raylor straight back into the team? Haidara has far more pace. No sissoko too??

  • 49 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:36 AM

    @ramajama. We like to make sure us and the neighbours are not thought of in the same sentence!!

  • 50 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:39 AM

    westoz

    I like Raylor and his free kicks, he has more experience. Haidara has pace, that’s all.

  • 51 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:41 AM

    anyway it’s not like I decide who play or not.

  • 52 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:48 AM

    Sorry ill have to disagree. Can’t really pick a player just based on free kicks ( we have cabella and sdj now) . How often does one come up in a scoring opportunity? Would one also think that like Haidara, how soft will they now be ( after leg injuries) too go into a tackle.
    Sorry to be picky, it is up for debate though

  • 53 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:57 AM

    westoz

    free kicks include corners. and yes not many times we get direct fk, that’s why we should have a player who is really good so it won’t go to waste. Raylor is one of the best fk takers imo.

  • 54 JAMSHA // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:57 AM

    other striker plz nt him

  • 55 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 6:59 AM

    regarding Cabaye replacement I think we already have one, Abeid. He is in the same role as Cabaye, deep playmaker role.

  • 56 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    Vuckic also in pre season team, he could also play as striker or 2nd striker.

  • 57 mindshaft // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:05 AM

    I hope the Carroll rumours are just journos making stuff up, he’s way too expensive at anything over 5 million and 40k a week – he is injury prone and a donkey
    We’ll end up reverting to long ball which I know is pard’s preference but seems pointless buying playmakers

  • 58 ~A Riviere of Goals~ // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:09 AM

    To sum up what I feel is the majority opinion on this subject.

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,

  • 59 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:11 AM

    Santon,
    You’ve got a right sided midfielder who’s been out for two years in at LB, he covered there in that unbeaten run, by the time we played Chelsea and lost 0-3 he’d been sussed he got ragged all over the place when he got run at, he’d been found out before that as well, how we held on against QPR was against all laws of science, we’ve got Haidara who after a year and a half and a good few appearance under his belt, if he’s not ready to step up now he’ll never be.

  • 60 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:13 AM

    Santon,
    Vukic couldn’t get a game at Rotherham.

  • 61 Santon03 // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:15 AM

    Jail

    Raylor played as LB before he got injured and his goal won us against sunderland.

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM

    Santon,
    Right sided midfielder RTaylor played as a LB because we sold Enrique and fcuked about replacing him before bfinging in an injured Santon.

  • 63 Markaccus // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:38 AM

    Really can’t believe i have woken up to this story again!

  • 64 expatmag // Jul 21, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    Mark

    He he. Get used to it mate. We got another 6 years of this speculation……lol

  • 65 cestriasteve // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:03 AM

    Surely going by the signings he has done so far he isn’t planning on building an attacking option on Andy Carroll, it doesn’t make sense.

    Duncan ferguson mark 2.

  • 66 firebug666 // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    Pardrew says Ashley wants Champions league football in an educated way and not throwing vast amounts of money at it.

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/pardew-says-mike-ashleys-wants-champions-league-educated-way-spending-fortunes/?

    I think Pardrew needs to stay off the sauce down there in NZ.

  • 67 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:10 AM

    From mid table and no cup runs to CL football, why didn’t they say that in the first place.

  • 68 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:11 AM

    I am going to bed again…this is just going to be a repetition of yesterday I see!

  • 69 martoon // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    As usual lazy journalism – Carroll is often linked to a reurn to the toon – both teams are in New Zealand therefore they are in talks……………………..!!

  • 70 WestOzMag // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Santon as jail said, we f’d about with taylor playing as an LB when he’s right footed. He got found out against a big club. He was at Wigan before right? Were they any good? NAH didn’t think so. As for corners once again we have cabella and sdj and yes Raylor scored a nice free kick at sunderland but we have also seen others score their so what is your point? He can keep the bench nice and warm.

  • 71 The next Mike Williamson // Jul 21, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    I like Carrol but he needs crosses, and as far as I can tell we don’t have any wingers. Cabella can play there, but he had his stand-out season as a no. 10. If he is moved back to the wing his performances might go back to being average. Sissoko is a CM, and Gouffran is a CF. Obertan & Gutierez can play on the wing but both are awful and neither can cross. This leaves HBA as our only winger able to supply crosses. Unless Pardew allows his fullbacks to get forward the way most modern managers do.

  • 72 maccamyfriend // Jul 21, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    so tomorrow’s team:

    Elliott (Alnwick HT), Sailor (Raylor 85), Willo (Satka 85), Colo (Dummett HT), MYM (Haidara HT); Tiote (Armstrong HT, switch from 4-1-2-2-1 to 442); Anita (Colback HT), De Jong (Vuckic 85); Gouffran (Ameobi HT), Riviere (Aarons 85); Perez (Campbell HT). Quite defensive, let’s try not to lose an easy game like Tues.

    Armstrong needs a loan out now. Campbell and Vuckic have failed out on loan so running out of time.

    Satka, Aarons and hopefully Streete should get League Cup debut soon.

    So when WC men are back:

    Krul (Elliott, Woodman. Loan Alnwick out)
    Janmaat (MYM)
    Colo (Good)
    Willo (Sailor)
    Santon / Haidara (loan Dumm to Champo)

    Tiote / Colback
    De Jong / HBA
    Sissoko / Obertan
    Cabella / Gouffran
    Anita / Raylor

    Carroll / Riviere / Cisse

  • 73 marshy // Jul 21, 2014 at 11:17 PM

    I am more worried about our defence ,williamson not good enough and collo slowing down.

  • 74 maccamyfriend // Jul 22, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    if we sell MYM might buy another CB. However, Good may get a chance

  • 75 maccamyfriend // Jul 22, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    forgot about Abeid! think Cheik is late for today’s game after WC too




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