Newcastle After Arsenal Attacking Midfielder


Alan Pardew wants to sign 19 year-old German born Arsenal youngster Serge Gnabry on a season-long loan deal at Newcastle, with Serge able to play as an attacking midfielder or as a winger.

Serge Gnabry

Serge Gnabry – Arsenal attacking midfielder

Newcastle, Southampton and Sunderland are the clubs that seem to be fighting out to take the Stuttgart-born German Youth International on loan, and he only just turned 19 earlier this month.

Serge has already played for the German Youth sides through the U19 level, and the Arsenal manager Wenger thinks the German lad can be a star of the future.

One thing against this signing, would be it may hamper the development of our own youngsters in the squad like Adam Armstrong as just one example – and while Serge could be good at Newcastle – there would be no way we could sign him permanently in the future, if he does well on Tyneside.

Arsenal signed Gnabry from his home town club VfB Stuttgart in 2010 for £100K, and last season he played 14 times for Arsenal with one goal and he’s made 18 appearances in total for the Gunners so far.

Serge is the son of an Ivorian father and a German mother, and Newcastle may try to bring in a couple of loan players for the season.

But we saw last summer with Loic Remy, that if they do well they will not sign on permanently at Newcastle, and that is even more true with younger players like this Arsenal starlet.

But we also need a good side for next season and a couple of loan signings would be OK – we suppose.

What do you think?

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32 comments so far

  • Toonacious T

    Jul 23, 2014 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #1

    Not into these stop-gap, sticking plaster measures, especially when the Club has over £80 in unspent revenues and youngsters of our own who need game time to develop.

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  • Toonacious T

    Jul 23, 2014 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #2

    *£80M even, although Ashley will probably try to tell us it is closer to £80, lol.

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  • firebug666

    Jul 23, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #3

    Not sure about loan signings like. We have the money so why not bring in permanent signings?

    There has to be some really good young players out there that are up for grabs on a permanent deal.

    Loan signings are ok if we have an option to buy written into the contract.

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  • Toonacious T

    Jul 23, 2014 at 1:32 AM

    Comment #4

    Totally agree, we must have first option to trigger release clause price, if one exists, but MA likes the idea of getting a bargain without having to invest too big a wedge upfront so you can see more loan signings happening. I suppose it is all par for the course at a feeder club!

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  • expatmag

    Jul 23, 2014 at 1:39 AM

    Comment #5

    Where do you guys get the 80 million quid figure?

    By my calculations, if you include the following revenue stream:

    Sky/TV income………….78 m
    Estimated season tickets……….25 m
    Player sales………34 m
    Wonga sponsorship…….6m
    Income from merchandise est…….20 m

    Total…….163m

    Expenditure

    Salary (all staff)…….80 m est
    Player/Agent/Sign on costs est…….35 m
    Operating costs………30 m
    upgrade costs to lights/academy…….15m

    Total…….160m

    We will gave very little left in the player budget to sign new players unless:

    (A) We sell some more of our most marketable players such as Sissoko or MYM as well as getting rid of the deadwood.

    (B) Ashley shows some of his benevolent side and dips his hands into his own fortune to fund new players (highly unlikely)

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  • Dingo†®

    Jul 23, 2014 at 2:32 AM

    Comment #6

    expat…. you just about spot on there in my book mate…… some folk on here have no idea how to balance books and probably just pay the minimum off their credit card each month and think that makes them liquid… whilst I have my reservations about Mike and his regime, we could still be stuck with Fat Freddy and I dread to think where we would be now if that were the case……. I for one am really pleased with the way we have conducted our dealings in this transfer window thus far and am trying more to look at a slow but steady future rather than a PS4/XBOX frenzy that some seem to want.

    Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of things that Mike has done to boil my piss but running at a profit isn’t one of them.

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  • dazza

    Jul 23, 2014 at 2:48 AM

    Comment #7

    Rolando Aarons looked lively against the Aussies. I’d say pass unless it has an option to buy.

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  • davetoon

    Jul 23, 2014 at 3:23 AM

    Comment #8

    just in case noone saw the link before, full game against Sydney here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3MPA2OjIY

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  • Thump

    Jul 23, 2014 at 3:25 AM

    Comment #9

    @Dingo: The problem isn’t balancing the books, the problem is that the books are balanced. We made a profit of £9.9m last year, and we’re expected to post a record profit for last season. There’s also the £60m warchest that Pardew was handed (of which he’s spent approx. £21m according to SkySports).

    Remember that Ashley was ready to spend £60m on the season (the reported warchest by The Telegraph). We’ve currently spent £21m (SSN) which would leave us with £39m left for the season.

    Cabaye: £18m
    Debuchy: £10m (SSN)

    £28 + 60 = £88m – £21m = £67m

    Even if we assume that Cabaye’s transfer fee was included in that £60m warchest, that still leaves us with £49m for the season.

    Also remember the wages freed up (Gosling, Amalfitano, Remy, Amoebi, Debuchy and the various youngsters and fringers who left) add up too.

    So yet again: there is still money in the bank.

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  • Thump

    Jul 23, 2014 at 3:26 AM

    Comment #10

    Cheers dave. I caught some of the second half this morning. Canny game, actually. Hardly top class opponents but we were passing and moving, closing down etc. The team looked genuinely buoyed by the new signings. Hope it continues.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 23, 2014 at 3:43 AM

    Comment #11

    Shouldn’t grumble I suppose, but flipping eck, what gives with travelling half way round the world and wearing that abomination of a grey strip and leaving the beautiful and iconic black and white stripes in the kit bag. If I was a paying fan I’d feel terribly disappointed. Mike, you just don’t get it do you!

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  • expatmag

    Jul 23, 2014 at 3:57 AM

    Comment #12

    Thump

    The 60 million warchest is fictional dreamed up by the press and denied officially by the club within days which is unusal for them as there record of communication displays.

    The 10 m profit from last season is not cash based but calculated around player amortisation therefore giving a false figure of funds available

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  • expatmag

    Jul 23, 2014 at 4:02 AM

    Comment #13

    Thump

    As for the salary savings from players released/sold/returned, i would imagine their replacements (6) wouldnt be earning chicken feed.

    The salary reductions will only impact when/if the club move on the so called deadwood high earners like HBA Msrveaux Jonas Obertan etc.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Jul 23, 2014 at 4:18 AM

    Comment #14

    Rolando aarons should be in the wings with cabella.

    He looks world class.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 23, 2014 at 4:37 AM

    Comment #15

    Steady! Steady!I think all weve discovered so far is that Rolando Aarons is good enough to play in the league one and the A league.

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  • expatmag

    Jul 23, 2014 at 4:40 AM

    Comment #16

    Jimmy

    Quite true. He could be a real find as could Armstrong but only time will tell under a system of progressive development over thus season and next.

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  • WestOzMag

    Jul 23, 2014 at 5:10 AM

    Comment #17

    Hi All, just reading the local paper here in oz and came across an article relating to MH17 in which the ground steward has enlightened people on the passangers boarding. It mentions the below conversation:
    Renuka Manisha Virangna Birbal posted on her Facebook page overnight and has since been shared more than 8,000 times.

    In her story, she describes her conversations and interactions with the passengers and crew in devastating detail, reports Dutch’s largest daily morning newspaper, De Telegraaf.

    Translated from Dutch, here’s snippets of what she said:

    A smile, a greeting, a happy face ..

    At the transfer desk, I get two football fanatics, one is checked in and the other not.

    “Can you check me in, love”?

    They were not seated next to each other in the business compartment.

    “Would you like to sit together, sir?”

    “Any doubt, I want a few hours of rest,” joked the other one. “Cheers”.
    I hope this does not offend anybody.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 23, 2014 at 5:14 AM

    Comment #18

    Have mixed feelings about Benny and Marv, but tend to think they just don’t put in enough of a shift. Marv was particularly lacking in this regard, whereas Benny seems simply at a loss as to how to go about it. But it does beg the question then as to why were they ever bought in the first place, and now Benny and Obertan might just end up spending the season stinking the joint up.

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  • thai-mag

    Jul 23, 2014 at 6:20 AM

    Comment #19

    I’ve just been reading Andy Carroll is injured again and wont be playing in either game in New Zealand, It may be just a coincidence but I wonder if there isn’t some truth in the rumour about him coming back to us

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  • Ben3arfa

    Jul 23, 2014 at 6:37 AM

    Comment #20

    Carroll is crooked again, further proof why we should stay well away from trying to sign him!

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  • cyprus

    Jul 23, 2014 at 6:55 AM

    Comment #21

    My fear is that the manager may end up stinking the joint while they end up smelling like roses. Hope I’m wrong and we don’t do a Norwich!

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jul 23, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    Comment #22

    Cyprus…I do hope they move on to something better, regardless of how it has pan out here!

    …I have seen enough of Parpuh and heard enough to know the blame is much more on him than many like to believe.

    It will be up to the players to prove a point of course when they move on…can’t help to think we are left with a funky smell for 7 more years!

    But with the current transfers people tend to forget…momentarily if nothing.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jul 23, 2014 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #23

    About Isla if the rumors at true I must admit at £8M or so it does surprise me a bit.

    …if we are willing to spend that kind of money I would have thought it would have been on someone else. Can’t really see where this player fits into the puzzle.

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  • Bambams

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    Comment #24

    Jesper
    I still cannot see this happening unless in January Janmaat is away !

    If it is squad strengthening I would much rather we got in THE STRIKER first and a CB in before further signings.

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  • bobby mango

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #25

    Good player but not what we need now. Any loans should be players who are going to enhance the 1st team, not bulk out the squad.
    Still waiting on our striker but rumours have gone dead lately. Plenty of prem teams have snapped up promising strikers already, we need to up our game on that.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #26

    Bambams…it seems odd to me as well.

    …personally I would agree we need a prolific goal scorer and a tall physical CB to partner Mbiwa, but honestly I don’t think we will sign anyone. Maybe a loan signing.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #27

    Anyone know who’s paying Marv’s wages while on loan?

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  • lesh

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #28

    expatmag

    You’re talking sense when you guesstimated the club’s income and costs.

    However, you could make the point that there isn’t a ready pot of cash in the budget to finance player transfers ’til you’re blue in the face, a some will never accept it.

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  • cestriasteve

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #29

    Captain, I would imagine we would be picking up some of his wages.

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Comment #30

    Would much prefer this story to be just another fabrication.

    Not a big fan of loaning players. Especially young ones from rival clubs. Play well for us and they just go back to their parent clubs having been given premier league experience.

    Surely we are a club who can do a little better than bleeding in Arsenal’s youth?

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #31

    And also, why does people feel the need to discuss the club’s finances…constantly.

    Over…and over…again!

    We’ve got this to spend, we’ve got that to spend

    No no this is why we’ve got this to spend… no, no this is why we’ve got that much.

    The facts are Newcastle as a club hasnt spent a penny in permanent transfers for 18 months. Dont care why. It doesnt affect me as a fan and it doesnt affect you.

    We have spent considerable money this summer. So who knows just how much is left for sure, or if we’ve already over spent according to Mike Ashley’s guidelines?

    Not one of you knows for sure what the Hell it is that Mike Ashley’s Newcastle United has ready to spend as not one of you works in the financial sector of Newcastle United.

    If we sign another three players will Mike Ashley knock on your door asking for money to finance the deals?

    And if we dont sign any more player will he send you a cheque to cover the change he’s got left?

    No, so why is it a constant point of discussion like it matters directly to you as a fan?

    It annoys me that football fans nowerdays talk about their club like they’re controlling a game of football bloody manager.

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  • nut meg

    Jul 23, 2014 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #32

    FROM GFF

    Sylvain Marveaux finalises Guingamp loan move
    Guingamp announced the loan signing of Newcastle United attacking midfield player Sylvain Marveaux for the 2014/2015 season.

    The club’s President announced that he was delighted to sign the Frenchman and went on to say that the condition he was left in Newcastle was unacceptable for a player of his quality. He hopes that Marveaux can prove himself in Ligue 1 again.

    As for the man himself, Marveaux said that his aim was to find a club and a manager that wants me and the reason I am here is because I have a very good feeling here he also confirmed that Europa League football was a factor in bringing him to EAG.

    There is a buyout option available at the end of the loan deal.

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