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This Player Was Frozen Out At Newcastle

8:31 am, Friday, July 25th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 20 Comments

Sylvain Marveaux will be on a season long loan deal at French club Guingamp next season, after he was essentially frozen out from the first team squad by manager Alan Pardew last season, and he now says he just had to move on after being relegated on the first day of training to train with the Reserves.

Sylvain Marveaux West+Ham

Sylvain Marveaux – while playing at Newcastle

How’s that for a welcome back from the summer break?

We always thought Sylvain was a very good technical footballer, but for whatever reason he didn’t make it at Newcastle, but it would have helped if he had been given a fair crack of the whip – which we don’t think he got in his three years on Tyneside, after joining us from Rennes on a free trasnfer.

This is what the former French U21 International had to say in the Journal this morning:

“I need to play.” “I reached the quarter-finals of the Europa League with Newcastle and with Rennes, I hope to do the same with Guingamp.”

Guingamp finished 5th bottom of the French League last season, just 2 points above the drop zone and they struggled after being promoted the season before from Ligue 2.

But they have rather amazingly qualified for the Europa League first round qualifying round by beating money-bags Monaco in extra time in the French Cup.

Guincamp President Bertrand Desplat is pleased to get Marveaux in his squad:

“It is the return of the Prodigal Son for us. I was dreaming of getting someone like Sylvain back in the team. He is from Brittany and we are all moving in the same direction.”

“He didn’t fulfil his potential with Newcastle because he was not playing there.” “At Guingamp we believe he will fulfil his potential because he will be playing more games.”

” I would like to thank Newcastle. The negotiations were difficult but we got there. It’s a transfer with an option to buy him permanently. We will decide at the end of the season if we want to take up the option.”

Other players like Gabriel Obertan, Ben Arfa and Jonas Gutierrez will also be leaving Newcastle this summer, and we would have liked to have seen both Ben Arfa and Jonas stay on Tyneside, as well as Marveaux – but that will not happen.

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20 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Ed. He was given a few fair cracks. Now, whilst the HBA debate is definitely still open, quite frankly this lad, even if he had that good assists season, still cost us more than he gave us. Not. Good. Enough. Liability.

  • 2 firebug666 // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:38 AM

    On the few occasions we saw Marveaux he looked ok, But as we all know under Pardrew it doesn’t matter what position you play, first and foremost you MUST be a defender, any other position is secondary to this.

  • 3 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    And when i say HBA debate still open, i mean in the way that, if he did get one more chance, do we think he’d take it, or would he continue having his attitude? We know he has the skill when he applies himself correctly. Doubt he will get another go really.

  • 4 bobby mango // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM

    I like Marv but we never played a system that suited him and I think he doesn’t suit the premier league.

    When he did get a chance he was rarely a game changer. Never controlled a game. You look at HBA’s impact and it’s miles ahead.

    Wish him all the best but it’s not a big loss.

  • 5 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:43 AM

    Firebug

    With marv it wasnt even that. He would run back more than HBA, but it’s the amount of goals he cost us directly and indirectly from mis placed passes and losing possesion in dangerous places. I would be willing to place a small bet that, if it was possible to see.the stats, he has cost us more goals than he has created or scored himself.

  • 6 ToonTiger // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:46 AM

    I wonder if there’s been attitude issues like HBA too. Thankfully he’s been more honourable and looked to play elsewhere

  • 7 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:46 AM

    I cant remember who it was we played…. but a game he played in (possibly a cup match) he put in a great through ball, and we scored. We went on to lose 2-1, and he was responsible for both of their goals from losing possesion. I know this is extremely vague, but since we lost a lot of games from winning positions its all a blur!

  • 8 martoon // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:48 AM

    Markaccus – Please don’t go there again – we’ve already had 2 days of HBA debate. I agree with you about Marveaux – he showed glimpses of potential with his assists but went missing in games for long periods – probably because he has been Pardewed :)
    Incidentally I just bought my son a ticket for the City game – I was surprised at how relatively cheap it was – Is Man City not counted as a Category A match?

  • 9 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:51 AM

    Keeping Jonas now would just be giving us a defensive option at Right side MF. We have plenty to play there who are younger so he wont be staying. He is very difficult to get the ball off, but he gives zero in attack. I have said before he is a “see out the game” player. Could see him doing a job for one of the promoted sides.

  • 10 Rotonda heights // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:52 AM

    ed

    you say benny, obertan and jonas will leave this summer. are you sure? who’s going to come in for them exactly?

  • 11 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:52 AM

    Martoon

    I think all games at the moment are “category please-come-and-watch” due to poor ST sales :D

  • 12 firebug666 // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:53 AM

    Markaccus

    His Stats are not that good I agree over 3 years he has 27 starts and 29 sub appearances with only 2 goals . I did say in my post he was ok. But if Pardrew had played a more attacking system maybe he would have suited the game better. Like I said he was ok but iI agree not Premiership standard.

  • 13 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:53 AM

    Rotonda

    Bikini Bottom UTD want to re-sign Squidward Obertan.

  • 14 Rotonda heights // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:54 AM

    markakus

    jonas may be good at keeping the ball but his passing is woeful and nearly every final ball goes
    back to the opposition, hence virtually no assists.

  • 15 Markaccus // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM

    Firebug

    yeah i think we are agreeing but coming from different angles :D

    He would certainly have produced more in an attacking system, but i think he would have needed some of Bennys pies to bulk him up a bit. He was a tad lightweight!

  • 16 Slank // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM

    Marveaux’s problems was that he wasn’t a traditional left winger but more a central midfield player but Cabaye occupied that position and he was head and shoulders above Marveaux in skill, commitment and tenaciousness.

    Whereas Cabaye was not afraid to get ‘stuck in’ Marveaux didn’t or couldn’t. Anita is not too dissimilar to Marveaux in build but he does get ‘stuck in’ even though he often comes off the worst but it is the commitment that is important.

  • 17 JrReps // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:59 AM

    I would also have loved to see Sylvain ad Benny to stay, I love those players. But life goes on. And news is that Isla will come in and replace Benny and if thats true i wouldn’t mind it. Also with Gnabry coming in on loan, we don’t have to worry about replacements.

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2014 at 8:59 AM

    ToonTiger…I think the biggest attitude problems there has been is Marv probably told Pardue aka Parpuh that he sucks as a coach…and a coach is all that he is :D

  • 19 Davies // Jul 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    I remember a couple of years back when he did get a good go he often went missing and regularly looked disinterested. There were people posting on here that he was “not fit to wear the shirt”. Probably one of the reasons he doesn’t get picked that much.

    He had his moments, but was horribly inconsistent. When he had a bad day he was just useless.

  • 20 bringbackemre // Jul 25, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    all the wingers have gone back or worsened under pardew jonas waas the only one able to do the job he wanted and eventually he just became a second left back, gouffran will probably be old next year after a big dip in form




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