Newcastle In Lead To Sign Striker On Loan


While Clement Grenier did not show up for training today at Lyon, it could be that it is not Newcastle who are close to a deal for the French playmaker, but maybe AC Milan, who are also reported to be talking to the player.

Facundo Ferreyra

23 year-old Shakhtar Donetsk striker Facundo Ferreyra

It will be a coup if Newcastle do sign Grenier, but the 23 year-old has always insisted this summer that he wanted to join a Champions League club – so we’ll have to wait and see – with Newcastle certainly trying to get a deal done.

But there is some good news coming out of Italy tonight, and it’s regarding 23 year-old Shakhtar Donetsk striker Facundo Ferreyra, who wants to leave the Donetsk club because of the fighting going on near the club’s base.

The reports coming out of Italy are that Newcastle United are in the lead to sign the Argentine U20 player on loan for next season.

The season long loan deals usually have a clause in them that allows the club to sign the player permanently at the end of the loan period, and that clause is usually executed,  if the striker does well.

But we have also seen from the case of Loic Remy, if the player does really well, he may want to sign for a bigger club than Newcastle.

There are a number of Donetsk players who have not returned to pre-season training, because of what is essentially a civil war going on in eastern Ukraine.

Facundo has only been at the Ukraine club for a year, and now he is doing his best to leave the club – either on loan or permanently, and it seems that Newcastle (make that Lee Charnley) to their credit,  have moved quickly to try to get the Argentine striker in on loan.

Newcastle need at least one new striker in before September rolls around, and let’s hope we can be successful in getting this lad on Tyneside soon, with other Italian clubs also said to be keen on taking the player on loan.

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57 comments so far

  • valle

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #1

    Forget loan deals!!! We should have learned that by now… Unless there is an option to buy ofcourse.

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  • Thump

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #2

    If we’re going for him on loan, does that mean Lacazette will be on the cheap in January?

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  • dannitoon

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #3

    AC Milan aren’t in champions league.. Ain’t got two bob to rub together.. they were 31 points off a champions league place too…

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  • p

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #4

    @3 maybe Grenier is not the superstar we think he is, just saying like

    I think a lot of players are over hyped

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #5

    Yeah, but it is Milan. Monumental football club. Although Newcastle and the EPL could well be the better move for him. We must be in with a chance.

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  • pedro

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #6

    The last thing I read here in Buenos Aires was that Ferreyra had said that he would return to Shakhtar after a conversation with the owner. Not saying that he won’t go somewhere on loan but he is no longer refusing to return

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Comment #7

    If we are interested in Grenier and he chose Milan, then will be nothing wrong… but this guy was scared shitless of title “Cabaye’s replacement”.

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  • Sazzer

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #8

    Pedro
    Good info. What are your thoughts on Facundo as player?

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  • Thump

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #9

    @spitfire: It wasn’t that he was scared, his agent had an issue with him coming to Newcastle as “the slightly cheaper Yohan Cabaye” as opposed to Clement Grenier. I completely see why, tbh. He wants to carve his own way, not be constantly compared to Cabs.

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  • Shaker Shakrah

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #10

    I don’t mind signing him on loan to see how he does
    with us first , he is not that bad .

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  • pedro

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #11

    Sazzer

    I like him – he is a goalscorer. When he was at Banfield he was thought of as a really big prospect. And after moving to Velez continued scoring plenty in the Primera. It is always difficult judging players from the Argentine league because the standard is so far below the EPL but I would be keen on Ferreyra on loan.
    Sadly, Shakhtar paid a decent amount for him $7 million (more or less) I think and he signed a deal until 2018 so a permanent deal would not be less than that surely

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #12

    The last time we finished In the European places, I remember Pardew and Llambias saying it had come to early, which took to mean in that they weren’t in the position to financially compete at that level on two different fronts within a sustainable framework. I think the goal posts have shifted since then, and we are better placed to strengthen where needed.

    To stop now, and not push on would seem a bit flaccid and pointless. I will be disappointed and a little bemused if we do.

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 28, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #13

    Thump

    Wherever he goes there always will have some comparison… if not with Cabaye will be with someone else… And this is for every single player, not just for Grenier because he is so special. Now we are talking for Milan. They maybe have some troubles at this point but this is Milan… way above Newcastle with much more players for comparison and boots to fill. Everyone should want to made his own path but the comparison with other players are inevitable.

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  • Sazzer

    Jul 29, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #14

    pedro
    I see this as an opportunity to get a player that we would otherwise get. Shakhtar have good scouting network in South America as well and they paid big money for him.

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  • Sazzer

    Jul 29, 2014 at 12:15 AM

    Comment #15

    I’m not afraid of A.C Milan these days.

    I remember Mbiwa was linked heavily linked with them as well.

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #16

    It would appear that top players prefer to test themselves in the most competitive leagues especially where there is more money to be earned.

    Serie A seems to have slipped well below the EPL and La Liga on that respect so I would imagine Grenier would want either of those 2.

    My bet he will join someone like Atletico Madrid

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 29, 2014 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #17

    Newcastle play in the most popular league in the World, are the third best supported, have a fantastic stadium and are financially stable with an owner who has the money to compete if and when he chooses.

    The likes of Remy, Grenier and Lacazette may prefer a Champions league club, but these clubs may not prefer them and Newcastle could well be the best bet of players of this calibre. If Charnley is capable, which he seems to be, we must be in with a pretty big shot of attracting the talent we need.

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  • nightfa11

    Jul 29, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #18

    good back up player if we fail with primary targets (which are hopefully lukaku, pea..or remy..or benteke..dont know much about lacazette..).. but i still think CB is a priority..cos we only have colo..pardew doesnt rate mbiwa..and others are below average.., so we really only have colo..

    city have too many foreign players..& nastasic would be perfect..

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  • Blofal

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #19

    Nightfa11 even then I still have this niggling regret that Colo given his time again should have been a CDM.

    His distribution and ball skills imo have been wasted as a CB.

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #20

    Thump,spitfire

    The line coming from Pardew is that he’s been alluding to Cabella and Siem de Jonh as Cabaye’s replacement.

    Maybe he’s doing that to remove any reference to Grenier being another Cabs?

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Blofal

    A good call re Colo and I have thought that too but it would mean Ashley having to buy two centre halves if we were to do that.

    It does appear that this kid Satko is being fast tracked as Colo’s eventual replacement and I gave no problem with that as long as an experienced quality partner is found to nurture him through.

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #22

    Lesh

    Clutching at straws there mate….lol

    More likely he wont be signed as priorities lie elsewhere within the team

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #23

    Jimmy

    You are quite correct in many of your comments but lets be honest here.

    Any decent player signed and performs well is purely a stepping stone in their career and a cash cow for Ashley. We are in essence, an ambitionless feeder club that will flucuate between midtable obscurity and relegation battles under the current regime for the foreseeable future

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:46 AM

    Comment #24

    Expat, I don’t think that’s necessarily so. Isnt it s also quite possible that Newcastle have been manouvering themselves into a better position to press on and challenge, and now are ready to do so. I don’t see Newcastle throwing money around like Spurs or Liverpool, but I also don’t see them holding on to money that is there to spend, if the players can be had. I don’t really see the benefit to Ashley in continuing to plod along. How does an underperforming Newcastle appeal to anyone, owner, fan, player, critic, consumer or otherwise.

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:53 AM

    Comment #25

    lesh

    The point which I try to made is how Grenier was scared to fill Cabaye’s boots but I’m sure he’ll decide in a heartbeat to go to Milan if the opportunity came… where the pressure will be much much bigger than at Newcastle.

    If now after Cabella and SDJ transfers Grenier will not be so scared about those Cabaye’s boots, I’ll be happy to see him at Newcastle, because there is no doubt that he is a very good player. Obviously he is very good also and at the set pieces.

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #26

    Jimmy

    So far, all we have spent is the money we brought in from the sales of Cabaye, Debuchy, Tavernier and Amalifitano.

    Unless Ashley is prepared to back Pardew with further significant investment from the additional Sky money, then nothing much has changed in his so called ambitions for the club.

    It has already been said that Ashley must move on his unwanted players before further signings are made and so far, there is no evidence to show HBA and Obertan will be moving anytime soon.

    I hope i am wrong but history shows i probably wont be.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:00 AM

    Comment #27

    When I say challenge, I mean start punching at our own weight, which to me means a genuine tilt at sixth realistically.

    I don’t think a club the size of Newcastle is legitimately competing if it doesn’t have designs on sixth in this league.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:02 AM

    Comment #28

    Yeah, I agree nothing much will have changed if we don’t press on from here.

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:18 AM

    Comment #29

    Jimmy

    I agree with everything you say but will he press on?

    We have a number of things in our favour such as:

    1..We have a fairly decent squad.
    2..We finally seem to be producing some kids from the academy.
    3..We are starting to look a more attractive destination for players.
    4..Our reputation in some countries is good.
    5.. We are financially stable

    However this is countered by the following;

    1..We need a more up to date management and coaching structure.
    2..Management has admitted survival in the league is the priority and cups and european qualification is not considered to be important
    3…Star players have and will continue to use us as a steppi ng stone to better their careers.
    4..The owner considers money more important tban trophies
    5..We dont look after our young players properly

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  • Thump

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:36 AM

    Comment #30

    @spitfire: Right, but the point is, he would only be Cabaye’s replacement. He wasn’t wanted as Clement Grenier, he was wanted as a consolidation prize for flogging Cabs.

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  • SUFC_rule

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:40 AM

    Comment #31

    Loans..lol. Then if they perform well they will be sold buy their loanee for double the price. NUFC stepping stone club.

    SUNDERLAND BEST CLUB IN NORTH EAST

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:45 AM

    Comment #32

    Thump

    This point was made by the papers. NORTH EAST PAPERS! For a team which keep his secrets better than North Korea. If you have so biggest faith in the NE papers, I don’t. End of story. I’m off.

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  • expatmag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 2:58 AM

    Comment #33

    Just read in the Independent that Man Utd could be selling Kagawa back to Dortmund who have already bought 3 forwards this season.

    Putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5, I am hoping that this could lead to PEA coming to the club. Probably wrong but lets hope I am right….lol

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  • swemag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 3:17 AM

    Comment #34

    Pressing on?

    I have a feeling like what Jimmy might be meaning, Toon has been manouvering itself into a better position and it seems that in the section just below the clubs that are really big clubs (Man Utd, Arsenal, Milan, Barca etc) and the clubs that have owners who don’t mind losing 200 millions a season (Chelsea, Man City, PSG etc) we are now a strong name and with financial strength.
    This also seems to have coincided with a lot of clubs that used to be in this segment running on tougher times being unable to compete having to sell players (Lyon, Marseille and the likes).
    Is this the Ashley master plan, much like his business empire he survives on left overs collecting cans until the opponent is on his knees, then he goes in and buys everything at a heavily discounted price to ‘save’ the opponent from annihilation.
    Either way, if that is so, I will enjoy watching it happen. I just hope we are at the part where we have past the leftovers and the can collecting.

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  • gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club)

    Jul 29, 2014 at 4:19 AM

    Comment #35

    @ SUFC_Rule – ……okay….

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  • Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Jul 29, 2014 at 4:38 AM

    Comment #36

    gonufc, we pretty much don’t care about “Sheffield United FC Rule” now coz we should have our sympathy for him.

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  • gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club)

    Jul 29, 2014 at 4:40 AM

    Comment #37

    I know mate, it’s been my reply to him everytime he makes a comment to show how completely pointless it is.

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  • SUFC_rule

    Jul 29, 2014 at 4:40 AM

    Comment #38

    SUNDERLAND^…YOU INBREED GEORDIE

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  • cyprus

    Jul 29, 2014 at 5:26 AM

    Comment #39

    If you had no ties would you choose Milan or NUFC?

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  • thai-mag

    Jul 29, 2014 at 5:55 AM

    Comment #40

    SUFC since when did it come Sunderland United, SFC you clown, machems don’t even know what they call there own team

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