Ben Arfa Will Move To A Bigger Club


The relationship between Hatem Ben Arfa and Newcastle manager Alan Pardew seems to have broken down irretrievably, and that means there is no future for Ben Arfa at Newcastle United, and he will be at some other club by September.

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Ben Arfa – will move to a Champions League club

And there was recent news that AC Milan are interested in taking the French International winger, although with his contract running out next summer, Ben Arfa is likely to leave Newcastle on loan for the season, and then he will become a free agent next summer.

Newcastle will want to get a fee for the player via a permanent move, but Ben Arfa has every right to bide his time until next summer,  when he can get a better deal for himself with no transfer fee involved.

That’s especially true because of the conflict that exists between him and the manager at the moment, and his Newcastle departure is very similar to the circumstances he left Marseilles four years ago when he moved to Newcastle, when he had then fallen out with then manager Didier Deschamps.

What’s that about history keeps repeating itself if you don’t learn from your mistakes?

AC Milan are on the lookout for a left winger, and Ben Arfa could fit the bill for them, and news today that Liverpool are interested in him.

But if he does move permanently, then  exactly what fee Newcastle would receive for him is a good question – but we’d be surprised if it’s much more than £4M – given the Magpies are trying to unload him this summer.

Ben Arfa is being treated like a pariah at the Tyneside club at the moment, and for his own good he should be playing at some other club come September, and we think it will be a Champions League club he finally ends up at.

What do you think?

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269 comments so far

  • surreytoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #1

    Given he only has a year on his contract it would be a very low fee for a team to take him now as opposed to January or next summer. £3m and take it.

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  • Graeme

    Jul 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #2

    There isnt exactly a queue forming up outside SJP trying to sign him up, thats for sure. Maybe if P45DUE swallowed his pride, kissed and made up, he would get far more from HBA in a much more attacking team than we have put out in any of the last few seasons!!

    He has 4 months to make HBA look great again and engineer a possible move for him in January!!

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  • AmeriToon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #3

    I would love to see his talent get a fresh start at a great club like Milan. I think the slower pace and less physical Serie A would be perfect for Ben Arfa.

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  • surreytoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #4

    Says something about Obertan that he is happy to sit at home vegetating picking up wages rather than actively trying to find a new club. What a waster.

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  • WLtoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #5

    The more we get for HBA, the better chance we have of signing a striker.
    Its about generating funds before we can buy.
    Get the dead wood out asap,generate the 10 mil, and Lacozette is a poossibility,providing Mashley adds another 2 mil to the kitty out of his ever increasing wallet of course .

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #6

    It’s time the fans faced facts and accepeted that there’s no way back for Hatem.

    He’s obviously shot his bolt with Pards and “that’s all she wrote” so to speak.

    AC Milan would be a great destination for him:

    *A team on the rebuild but with a fantastic histoty.
    *Great fans.
    *Slower paced game to utilise his talents
    *The best pizza restaurants in the world

    It’s win-win…
    We sell Hatem to a non-English team and a brilliant one at that. He gets a good move and we get him off the wage bill.

    I think we should be looking to sell him for anything over £2.5m
    He’s got a year left of his contract and he’s completely out in the cold, so there’s no way we could demand much higher.

    Thanks for the memories Hatem, but your time is up son.

    Arrivederci.

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #7

    @WLtoon

    Pretty sure its more to do with reducing the wage bill before we buy to be honest.

    We had a £15m offer sitting there for Remy whilst he messed about with Liverpool. So there’s money available and ready to spend.

    There’s no denying however that Ashley and Co hope to get rid of some of the dead wood.

    I heard it was possible Goots may have his contract terminated, Marveaux has been shipped off for the season, and Obertan is definitely not wanted, and could probably go for £1m.

    For me; its more to do with the wage bill than generating funds to pay for the transfer fee. Obviously we will take as much as we can, but i get the impression they’re not expecting big fees at all, as its been such public knowledge that these lads are not wanted here.

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  • dannitoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #8

    Send him to fat club

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  • Our Toon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #9

    Less said the better, AC Milan & now Liverpool linked to him as well…strange especially considering “he doesn’t work hard enough” and he isn’t good enough to go to a “bigger club”

    WL Toon – please explain to me why we need to sell before we can buy?

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  • Markaccus

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #10

    To the people complaining about 2 games in 2 days….

    This has been done before many times at many clubs during freindly season….

    No player will play more than 90 mins over the 2 games, and i would suspect that out possible first team will get a full half together, gradually being changed during the second half of one game. I would expect them to play most of the final freindly together, too.

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  • Our Toon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #11

    As for reducing the wage bill haven’t we done that with the sale of Cabaye, Debuchy and Marv, shola, gosling, LDJ, Remy (who cost the same as 2 players wages), Newton, Tavernier and so.e of the other youngsters that have been shipped out

    The players that have come in are here on less money than the ones that have left. If we are looking to sell before we can buy then what happened to TV deal money? What happened to the lack of spending over 2 windows?

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  • Our Toon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #12

    Markaccus

    These type of friendly tournaments have been played for many many years, strange the some are panicking about this….We have a squad for a reason

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  • Markaccus

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #13

    Our Toon

    Exactly. Sometimes i think toon fans seem too keen to find fault with our preparations. I think we all need to calm down and see what actually happens, rather than predicting what MIGHT happen 😀

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  • expatmag

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #14

    TTVVT

    Best pizza restaurants on the world???????

    Never.

    Best pizza restaurants in the world are in Melbourne mate. Suburb of Carlton also known as Little Italy

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #15

    Good luck to Benny is he leaves for a club like AC Milan…would fit him well!

    …and yes history does repeat itself just ask players like Tevez or Mascherano (coach dumpass has done it again…good work)

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  • WWSBRD

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #16

    Cant see Liverpool seriously wanting Hatem, Milan yes because they are struggling and the calibre of the player they are looking to bring in has dropped. Its a good move all round if it happens…or if we can offer him plus money to Lyon for Lacazette but thats unlikely to happen

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #17

    Anyone on Spotify or something similar?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #18

    Our Toon,
    Hall and Shepherd are lambasted on here for taking money out of the club, in their time we had one of the best stadiums in Europe built, high profile managers (albeit some shite) and top players on top earnings yet only managed to get ourselves in 80M debt, now the only thing left on that list is the stadium and apparantly Mike Ashley isn’t taking any money out, where is it going ???

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #19

    @Expatmag

    The best pizza restaurants in the world are in a suburb of Melbourne in Oz?

    Nonsense. I reckon Adelaide Terrace in benwell does a better pizza than those gaffs in Melbourne!

    Milano man! Stands to reason they’ll be able to throw together a lovely spot of bait.

    Hatem will be in his element.

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #20

    @WWSBRD

    Can’t see Hatem going back to Lyon.

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  • Toonfan8

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #21

    HBA to Milan, yes it can be, Milan like that type of transfers these days…they dont have enough money to buy players at their best, last year they had Taarabt on loan..I think, he will go there on loan, or they buy him for 2-4M…more not, forget 10M transfer, nobody is going to give us that money for him (last year of his contract,unsettled here,AP doesnt want him here)…

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #22

    AC Milan are dire these days, real shadow of their former selves

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  • WWSBRD

    Jul 30, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #23

    T.T.V.V.T.
    Me either but its worth a try if, as reported, Lyon want him

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #24

    @WWSBRD

    I’d be very surprised if Lyon wanted Ben Arfa back on their books.

    However if it is the case, then sure.. offer him as part of the deal. May kill two birds in one stone.

    We end up paying about £12m cash for Lacazette and he takes over on the wage structure that Ben Arfa had in place.

    Makes sense.

    Too perfect though. Things like this never go perfectly for us.

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  • scitoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #25

    Hilarious. Where are the bids from the big 4 in the EPL for Benny? No one wants him because his attitude stinks, on the pitch and off it. Could you see LVG or Jose putting up with him? No, so why should Pards?

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  • potski

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #26

    AC Milan are not a Champions League club – they finished 8th in Serie A, with the top 6 qualifying for Europe.

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  • scitoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #27

    Anyone on here going to the Schalke game this Sunday?

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  • Toonfan8

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #28

    AC Milan is now in the shadow of Berlusconi priorities, he seems to doesnt carry anymore, which is a shame. Milan is my second team after Newcastle and it deserves better owner, somebody who cares…I have now two my teams having owner who dont care…but in past Berlusconi did care and give fans 28 trophies in his 28 years in club…8 league titles and 5 champions league titles

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  • Sav

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #29

    …As long as its conditional that the buying club also takes Obertan.

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #30

    Two teams?

    Aye, i support two teams too.

    The first being Newcastle United and the second being Newcastle United Reserves.

    Two teams? MEH!

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  • WWSBRD

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #31

    T.T.V.V.T.
    Very true mate it’ll never happen. At this point getting Benny off the books is probably pretty high on the priorities list though so Id imagine they will try anything they can think of

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  • Ethiotoon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #32

    Toonfan8: Let Milan have Taraabt or benarfa or both…so that we r free to get
    Grenier, best young MF at the moment..

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #33

    About time this wrongin was shipped out..

    I’v just read further down a question regarding why we need to sell before we buy.

    We don’t need to. Mike Ashley is always looking to reduce the wage bill though, this is his model, he has done it since he came here.

    Personally im not too excited right now, it’s just more of the same circus, the same merry go round. Cash conveyor.

    We have only replaced what has left and who is out in the cold.

    I can’t see any true squad depth being added so far. Prove me wrong please Mike?? Same old same old, replace only when we have to, nothing more. Good first eleven then the jump im quality to the back up is severly lacking. Deja vu?

    It’s still the same, lacking in parts of the team. For the supporters who feel and think different, just wait until injuries set in and watch us crumble.

    Then bang on que, calls for Pardews head will start.

    More signings needed in this window for a genuine chance for the team and coaching staff to give the top eight a real go and compete.

    Im waiting Mike..

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #34

    @Sav

    Obertan needs to go like. Deffo!

    Can’t see any club in the EPL taking a gamble on him though?

    Maybe someone in his native France will have him back?

    Either way, we need to ship him out quick…

    Squidward is abysmal.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #35

    scitoon…you know it’s not like any other of our players who underperformed (that is most actually) or those being disregarded by coach dumpass are in high demand if you want to add that to your brilliant conclusion!

    …and our coach, is he is demand somewhere?

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  • Toonfan8

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #36

    T.T.V.V.T.
    I am not from Newcastle or England…and yes I have two teams Newcastle and Milan…Newcastle is number one

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  • Our Toon

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #37

    Jail

    That is the question mate where is the money going?

    Scitoon – Ahh yes that old chestnut again of would LVG or JOSE put up with HBA, probably not is the answer, but ask yourself would either of those managers get the best out of HBA….YES which would mean a happy HBA!! So what was the basis of your argument then? I’d be surprised if he did join a top 4 team though but he looks like he will join a team that’s bigger than us!! Shame but that’s what happens when muppets are in charge.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #38

    Very talented boy but massively over rated, he does offer a handful of goals/assists but nowhere near a player of iOS ability should be getting.

    Modern football doesn’t allow for passengers anymore, times have changed, I thought we could carry him but we simply can’t after seeing last season.

    There are a few others last year who have less ability and also a poor work ethic so not just a dig at Benny, all players need to offer commitment (but also need a decent level of ability too), one without the other is no good to anyone.

    He won’t get a top club, he’ll get a club similar to us in league position I think.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #39

    Jesper

    I know your a fan of HBA but the size he has come back to the club in must annoy you?

    Surely what he should have done is work on his fitness to allow him to do the hard work but also allow him to impress with his ability, making him very dangerous both with and without the ball to prove the manager wrong.

    I’ve been in teams where I struggled to get games, but I worked hard to improve certain areas of my game to get back in the side and take my chance. I didn’t just sulk and get fat like he seems to have.

    I also don’t really like pardew but at the same time Benny has fallen out with every manager he has had, so this can’t be just don’t to pardew I don’t think.

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  • T.T.V.V.T.

    Jul 30, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #40

    The closest Newcastle have come to having a ‘coach’ in high demand is when we were given that one for the first team for ‘gratis’ by the Sultan of Brunei.

    Talk about luxury travel!

    Mind, he took it back sharpish. Didn’t like the direction the club was taking, or some crud.

    Like i say; a coach in high demand.

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