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Ashley Can Help Newcastle Get Loic Remy On Tyneside

1:30 pm, Friday, August 1st, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 109 Comments

If the news is to be believed today, then Newcastle are in negotiations with QPR to sign Loic Remy, and if Mike Ashley gets involved he could help to seal the deal and get Remy permanently on Tyneside – and with the breaking news that Newcastle have won the race to sign 23 year-old Argentine striker Facundo Ferreyra from Shakhtar Donetsk – we could even have a cracking side for next season.

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Loic Remy while on loan at Newcastle

One reason Newcastle lost the race to sign Loic Remy in January of last year was that the move was hijacked at the last minute by QPR.

But also their owner Tony Fernandes got involved personally to persuade Loic to join the club that was rock bottom of the Premier League at that time,  and still finished bottom the following May – even through Loic scored 6 goals in 14 appearances for them.

This is what Remy said at the time,  after playing a computer game with the QPR owner in late January of 2013:

“It showed to me what a good person Tony is.” “He showed his human side to me as an owner of the club.” “Harry Redknapp also played a big part in me coming here,”

“I spoke to him and Tony Fernandes at length, and they made it clear they wanted me here. They gave me the right motivation to join QPR.”

So now’s the time for both Mike Ashley and Alan Pardew to get involved and put forward the vision of Newcastle United to Remy, and that we want to get back into the Champions League, which is what Alan Pardew has already stated a week or so ago.

Both owner and manager need to assist Managing Director Lee Charnley to get Loic Remy signed permanently for Newcastle – and then we should have a fine striker force next season.

That strike force could include Loic Remy, Emmanuel Riviere, Facundo Ferreyra, Siem de Jong, Ayoze Perez and of course Papiss Cisse and young Adam Armstrong.

Looks (very) good to us.

And if we are successful in getting Loic Remy to Newcastle – all we need to do then is to sign Clement Grenier from Lyon. :D

Howay The Lads!!

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109 responses so far ↓

  • 1 AndyNUFC // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    It was funny the whole saga with Remy. Plane to London for some reason, didn’t get out of bed to catch his travel up here, ends up getting chatted up by ‘Arry and has a game of FIFA with Fernandes.

    End of season QPR are relegated and Fernandes is talking about slinging out all of the mercenaries… So between NUFC and QPR I can see a deal being done (£15M is great business in today’s market) but as Twittersphere is pointing out it is actually Remy’s wages that are a stumbling block.

    If we got him though we wouldn’t need any more strikers, which would be an amazing thing to finally enter a season not lacking in a particular area. (Fingers crossed).

  • 2 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM

    Get ya PS4 oot sharpish Cashley!!!
    The tight git will probably turn up with a bloody accomadore!
    C’mon Remy I’ll give ya a game of pong!

  • 3 Barton // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    Ashley Can Help Newcastle Get Loic Remy On Tyneside…..

    Sorry like,but heard it all now lol

  • 4 G // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    So how many strikers are we planning this season? Anybody else thinking about KK’s Cavalier style football with all attacking players, and sod the limited defence? Lovely to watch but doesn’t bring the silverwear, still I would be happy to see it again.

  • 5 shearermania // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    i always moan at my son when hes playing video games, ipad etc : “its stupid, youre wasting your time playing on this stupid thing, go out and kick a ball instead of this xbox crap – nothing good is going to come out of it” he keeps telling me “dad if you were the owner of nufc i would have got you loic remy”

  • 6 Ethiotoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    ED…they show some ambitions in this window,sth we cheer about so far, great job done so far,did every thing so far..
    So far..I’m cheerful..

  • 7 Ethiotoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    *can

  • 8 Bambams // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    I was talking to an old work colleague yesterday I had not seen for years. His son used to be on the books at Newcastle but is now playing full time in the states on a university scholarship.
    Anyway he still attends all the youth and reserve games and knows Pedro very well. He is a football man and he raves about Adam Armstrong !!! Reckons he is some player and need to get excited about this lad….Time will tell but thought I would share it.

  • 9 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    Andy
    Given our lack of Goals i personally don’t think the club can grumble to much about his wages
    Can’t see them being too high either given he had apparently agreed a pay cut to join the bin dippers

  • 10 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    Wow. A thread on her has the life expectancy of a warm prawn sarnie…

    Anyway – not actually that bothered about Remy. The club seem to have the right idea: if he genuinely wants to come here, fine, but if not then we don’t need him. No more Michael Owens, thanks.

    You have to hand it to Loic, though – he plays well regardless of which shirt he’s in. If you’re going to be a mercinary, be a good one. :)

    I think he’d be happy here, and with service from the likes of SDJ, Cabella, Sissoko… 20 goals a season looks possible.

  • 11 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    *thread on here

    Doh. :)

  • 12 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:44 PM

    shearermania
    Tough to argue with his logic!

  • 13 JamesToon // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    IMO Ferreyra is a fantastic signing, he’s like a proper number 9.

    Just need Remy and Grenier then we are sorted.

  • 14 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    @toonarmydownsouth

    Commodore 64 mate?

    hahaha great post mate. Made me chortle.

  • 15 Slank // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    I think Lee Charnley is doing a fine job (given the recent signings) and surely doesn’t need his boss sticking his nose in.

  • 16 outsidethebox // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    thats the midfield and strikers sorted…
    andy nufc….need a centre back ..i would be happy if they get one more in even on loan younis kabul would be my choice

  • 17 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:48 PM

    T.T.V.V.T
    F**king autocorrect!!!

  • 18 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    @Whumpie

    Spot on.

    No more Michael Owen’s indeed, but as you say later; Remy is a very good mercinary.

    Personally i think he’s very important to our success but i dont want to see us have our pants taken down like Liverpool and Carroll for example.

    I can’t see that ever happening with Ashley, so if we do end up signing him you know its a solid deal for the club and the player.

  • 19 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    Looked at that guy from Argentina he looks decent the only problem with him (and perez for that matter) is the goals they have scored in highlights we dont tend to create those chances under Pardew…..

    So unless there is a MAJOR change of style under Pardew or the players figure it out themselves then it could be difficult for them

    Unless the plan when Pardew runs out of ideas is to launch it long to Sissoko/Willo or Vuckic up front we dont really have that go long option which could be a blessing in disguise

  • 20 beermonkey // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:55 PM

    bambams

    the worrying thing about Armstrong is we wont get to see him reach his potential as the first decent offer we will take

  • 21 JamesToon // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    I don’t get why people are still calling for a CB, as much as i’d like Lascelles to replace Taylor, its not gonna happen, the club are clearly satisfied with our current 4 with Streete and Satka coming through the ranks.

  • 22 mindshaft // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Rumour is that Remy had accepted 60k a week at Liverpool and thats the wages being touted to Arse / Spurs but his agent has said he wants 80k a week for Newcastle as not CL club nor based in London!

    20k a week extra to play in the toon – tell him to take a hike, that’s just taking the porverbial

  • 23 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    It’s not just the options we’ve suddenly got in attack, it’s that feeling that there are many, many permutations and that the squad has the sense of togetherness that will enable Pards to deploy those options without trouble.

    We did say he needed to be better at Plans B, C etc. – and it looks like he’s on the case.

    Blimes.

  • 24 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    @ElasticoChop: £6m option to buy #Ferreyra in place. Similar to Luuk de Jong deal; let’s hope that is the only similarity. #NUFC

  • 25 G // Aug 1, 2014 at 1:59 PM

    Despite everything I’ve still got a score on AP to win the sack race this year, once the season kicks off. 7/1 odds were offered so I took it.

  • 26 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    I reckon thats remy deal dead imo unless cisse is sold we syill REALLY need a commanding ctr half

  • 27 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    JamesToon – good point on the defence. I’ve read that Satka looks the real deal, and Dummy was pretty close last season even out of position as a CB. Perhaps even Saylor has started to wise up a bit?

    I just get the feeling that with Colo getting on a bit, we need backup for his maturity and level-headedness.

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Mindshaft
    Aye but those clubs aren’t stupidly desperate for a CF
    Ashley’s willingness to sell and not replace players has left us short which as I’ve stated numerous times hands all the power to the other party
    We know we’re desperate
    They know we’re desperate

  • 29 firebug666 // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    From the Shields Gazette

    HARRY Redknapp has confirmed former Newcastle United loanee Loic Remy will link up with his Queens Park Rangers team-mates in Ireland this weekend.

    QPR are currently without Remy on their pre-season tour, but he will join up with the squad on Sunday, according to Redknapp.

    He said: “Loic Remy will arrive in Ireland on Sunday and will be training with us on Monday.”

    Newcastle retain an interest in the striker after his move to Liverpool collapsed.

    Alan Pardew this week said the club will continue to “monitor” the Frenchman’s situation.

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/redknapp-ex-newcastle-loanee-remy-joining-qpr-on-pre-season-tour-1-6763049

  • 30 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    Santonthenewmaldini – got to challenge you on that long ball thing; it’s way out of date.

    Before we sold Cabs – and were left with very few players capable of running through the midfield and passing the ball – we had one of the lowest long-ball stats in the league. Pards had comprehensively ditched it.

    We’ve now added much more depth than we had then – beyond what we had with just Cabs – so I doubt if you’ll be seeing many long balls.

  • 31 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    TDS: we are no longer desperate. If we do have this Shaktar player on loan, then we’ve replaced Shola, LDJ and Remy with him, Rivierre and Perez, with Armstrong coming through strongly too.

    When it comes to strikers, we’re anything but desperate. REMY is probably desperate, because I don’t think ‘arry wants him and he’s suddenly considered ‘damaged goods’.

  • 32 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Whumpie
    Agree about the ball, haven’t seen it at SJP for a long time
    Ugly football yes but not route one

  • 33 Ethiotoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    These guys will burst in upcoming season
    Mussa sissoko
    Tim krul
    Yoan Goufran
    S.Taylor
    Gabriel obertan

  • 34 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Whumpie
    We are desperately short of goal scorers
    We have some good academy players coming through the ranks and added Rivière
    We have in no way shape or form replaced Remy’s goals who of those players you have listed have got anywhere near his scoring record?
    We have depth to an area that was woefully short of goals, that is all
    We still have no recognised regular goal scorer on the books

  • 35 paul6257 // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    and centre half, then i’ll be happy… with that squad i can feel a trip to Wembley coming on

  • 36 expatmag // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    I would say that is the Remy speculation now over and done with thankfully. I didnt want him back.

    This guy looks to have potential and could be a good leader of the line.

    You cant always go by you tube of course but he seems to have a bit of pace, two good feet, handy in the air but most of all, we have given him a chance in the PL to impress and if he is like most Argentinian players, he might just have a single minded approach to prove himself at a higher level.

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    LDJ and Shola didn’t score so we could of bought 2 lumps of coal and claimed we had replaced them

  • 38 estechco // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    If YouTube is to be believed Ferreyra has two good feet, s decent turn of pace, good in the air, takes penalties…what’s not to like!

  • 39 Pottsclock // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    Yep, not really seen hoofball since we had Carroll and Nolan feeding off it……but every day on hear people repeatedly say that we do it.

  • 40 beermonkey // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    tads/ whumpie

    the problem was last season if cabs became isolated and after he left there was no outlet tiote and anita didn’t have some1 to link with so we tended to go backwards or sideways when we were pressed, and we were pressed a lot as we had no threat, also it was a work in progress, still is, and I think at times we didn’t know wot we were doin well it looked that way

  • 41 expatmag // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    Ethiotoon

    Who is going to blow them up then?

  • 42 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    @whumpie

    We did have a low long ball ratio for a little while but we were just passing the ball between our midfield and defense it was still not attacking football we were still negative in a lot of games even with Cabaye

    Also you not watch the 2nd half of last season ?!?

    That was only Cabaye missing what happens if De Jong gets injured does it all go out the window again!?!?

    Even the first half of the season there was a lot of long ball to Shola for Remy to latch onto which is fine as a last resort but we now have players to play proper football I hope Pardew can adapt I really do

    A lot of the players we have signed are used to dominating the opposition not sitting on one goal leads against weaker teams especially at home

    The City game is different we probably will get beat either way but we should be spanking Villa by 3 or 4 goals they are terrible should be no excuses

  • 43 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    @NUFC: #NUFC squad: Aarons, Abeid, Alnwick, Anita, Armstrong, Cabella, Campbell, Colback, Coloccini, Dummett, Elliot, Gouffran, Haidara (1/2)
    @NUFC: #NUFC squad (contd): Janmaat, Krul, Obertan, Perez, Rivière, Satka, Sissoko, Streete, S Taylor, Tiote, Vuckic, Williamson, Yanga-Mbiwa (2/2)

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Beermonkey
    Agree but with the midfielders we’ve signed I fully believe that issue has been addressed

  • 45 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Long accurate balls to big strikers who win it and gets results = Direct long ball football aka Pulis Stoke

    Aimless punts to strikers like Cisse who win nothing in the air and does not get results = HOOFBALL aka Pardew’s Newcastle for large portions of the last 2 seasons

    Big difference

    Happy to be proved wrong but I think Pardew has been provided with everything needed to play on the front foot P45 coming his way if he cant deliver

  • 46 beermonkey // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    tads

    no willo then

  • 47 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    Some debate on here as to whether the loan signing of Ferreyra means we are no longer in for Loic Remy?

    Here’s my take on the situation..

    I don’t normally like talking fee’s. But i know it’s an important part of the way NUFC figure their business.

    These are approximate fees as we dont know for sure the amounts which have been paid:

    OUTGOINGS
    Cabaye – £20m
    Debuchy – £12m
    ***TOTAL – £32m

    INCOMINGS
    Janmaat – £5m (replaces Debuchy)
    De Jong – £6m (Required attacking midfielder)
    Riviere – £6m (Replaces De Jong)
    Colback – free (Replaces Gosling)
    Ayoze – £2m (Replaces Ameobi)
    Cabella – £11m (Replaces HBA/Marveaux/Obertan)
    TOTAL – £30m

    So we then sign Ferreyra for £1.5 on loan which makes us about even on the incomings and outgoings. He is also a player who can be used as a further option up front, and is in the squad to cover the injury to Cisse and the possibility he might still be a load of old garbage.

    The deal for Remy as we all know has been on-going for 18 months. When we signed him on loan we set the possibility of permanent deal.
    We also failed to sign anyone permanently in that window. £15m price for Remy was therefore set aside.

    This summer has seen us table the bid for the permanent transfer again. £15m on the table to QPR (widely reported Remy had a choice of 3 or 4 clubs of which we were one).

    Remy chose Liverpool and the deal fell through.

    My reading of the situation is therefore, that we still have the funds available for Remy. The money was set aside last year when the loan deal was set up.
    Our other transfers have come about via the Cabaye and Debuchy funds.

    I would suggest we will still try to sign Remy and may well be succesful.

    I would also suggest that when Cisse is fit they will look to move him on, possibly selling him in January.

    Just my take on the matter. I personally don’t think loaning Ferreyra has made any difference to the on going Remy deal.

  • 48 shearermania // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    problem last 2 seasons hasnt been the long ball – it has been our formation and player instructions have been too rigid…no runs, no overlap, it was so predictable..at times because santon is sooo right footed and cut inside all the time the midfield gets too narrow and since both tiote and cabs were simply holding their position it became such a flat midfield…gouffran is a grafter and i like him a lot but he kept himself hugged to thst left side and same with sisooko…
    it was painfully obvious what was going too happen and thats why we looked so poor in the attack and why cabs kept trying to go long (and then cisse off side)…hence no chances were created…thats why remy was a revelation cause he ran the channels and came deep…i got a lot of time for remy…\I would wish though that ben10 and parsnip mended their relationship cause i feel we need that unpredictability that hatem provides

  • 49 belgrade fan // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Cisse- waste of space
    Perez- kid from spanish secunda, unproven
    Riviere- unproven, not a top scorer
    Facundo- poor record, unproven

    so do we really need Remy?

  • 50 scitoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    tads – What is it that you want to see? A 15-20M proven EPL striker? Not many of them about. Benetke would have been nice but at 28M that seems a bit over inflated to me. Many strikers come from abroad and find success without being proven EPL strikers. Ferrerya and Riviera could be of the same ilk. Take a punt and lets see what happens! Got Arma and Perez as young unknowns too so id say we are sorted for CFs.

  • 51 G // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    @47, given the midfield we have, we would be foolish to just get ride of Cisse when he’s fit. He will thrive and hopefully get his mojo back. The problem last season was he knew there would be nothing to win back as he wouldn’t be backed up. This resulted in the drop of confidence and the drought (That’s just my opinion by the way). I think he will be up for this one.

  • 52 Blubber tits // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    TTVVT

    Wishful thinking and most of what you put is factually incorrect.

  • 53 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    Dammit, I think we all agree. Where’s the fun in that?

    – We used to play too much long-ball 2 seasons back.
    – It improved last season but still didn’t work that well, even with Cabs there – not enough around him.
    – That should be corrected now, and we’ll wait to see if Pards knows what to do with the new players.

    So – all good, then. :)

    Tum-te-tum…

  • 54 beermonkey // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    tads

    I agree and we have options if dejong is injured we can cabella there and put riviere out wide or goofy or even play riviere there

    the only thing I would like to see is pardew play them all there is no excuses for playing out of form players and really just to keep players on there toes rotate the team a bit and attacking wise we should be able to field strong teams in the cups

  • 55 scitoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    Whumpie – seems like we have nowt to complain about! This blog will be quiet then…

  • 56 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Shearermania @48. Bloody hell – good assessment! Hopefully put right now.

    Belgrade: that’s hopelessly cynical and contradicts all the evidence that our recruitment guys know how to choose a player.

    At the end of last season we had just about nobody who could put a ball in the net (Remy was already in Brazil in his head).

    Now we’ve got three out-and-out strikers, plus Cabella and SDJ to feed them and score a hatload themselves. SDJ missed a stack of games in the 2nd half of last season and still got more than LDJ, Shola and Cisse combined for the whole season.

    So no, we aren’t desperate for Remy. Personally I hope we do get him, but I won’t lose sleep. It’s going to be an exciting season to watch anyway.

  • 57 Rainrix // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Shame de jongs not going to germany, was looking forward to seeing him link up with cabella. Must have left him behind as a precaution.

  • 58 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:34 PM

    Williamson goes long 95% of the time, it’s dressed up as direct football but to me it’s still hoofball

  • 59 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    @Blubber tits

    Factually incorrect?

    Any explaination. Or just “that’s wrong”.

    Yeah great answer ‘Blubber tits’.

  • 60 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    For the first time in ages, I think we’ll have some good banter about who doesn’t even make the squad :)

    Pick your front six and three subs out of this lot:

    Tiote
    Anita
    Colback
    Sissoko
    Goufs
    Cabella
    Aarons
    Abeid
    SDJ
    Riviere
    Ferreyra
    Cisse
    Armstrong

    Which 3 of those don’t even make it onto the team bus??

    Nice problem.

  • 61 Markaccus // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    Whumpie

    probably have four subs from that lot. 2 defenders and a gk would make up the seven.

  • 62 firebug666 // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Our Toon

    I wouldn’t mind if Williamson hit long towards one of our players but for the most part he even got beyond their back line.

    Last season we were hoofing the ball up field to their back four and coming under pressure again. Like I said earlier in the transfer window we played with 11 men behind the in our own half.

    Hope to god Pardrew has learned from that and we play a better attacking style of football.

  • 63 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Ayoze is definitely one we’ve signed for the future.

    Riviere is new to the league and doesnt score hatfuls of goals.

    Cisse is injured and was unable to hit a cows arse with a banjo the last two seasons.

    Ferreyra is another who is untested in the league.

    Remy’s deal is still an absolute MUST for me.

    No good having numbers in the squad if none of them can stick the ball in the net.

    I also reckon Cisse would have been offered to clubs by now if he hadnt have gotten injured.

    I’d like to see him stay and find his great form but im very dubious.

    Therefore, the only guarenteed goal scorer would be Remy. We still know very little about the other lads in the squad.

  • 64 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    scitoon
    Not many about?
    Erm Remy is in the shop window and is proven under Pardew how much more of an invite do you think we need?
    Rivière is a decent signing and great squad player but not a main man as has been echoed by all the pundits and media that have followed his career
    Perez and Ferreyra are decent coups for the future but neither are proven, do you really think Campbell and Armstrong won’t be sent on loan to gain experience?
    The fact we have been stupidly weak in the goals department and the club have confirmed they still want a MAIN CF surely shows that no we are not yet well stocked in the goals department?

    All the players you’ve listed only Rivière has any major senior experience in a decent league, going in to the season with just him would be suicide for a team woeful short of goals and very leaky at the back

  • 65 Markaccus // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Socks tiote
    cabella sdj goofy
    rivvy

    Subs
    colback
    anita
    Ferry
    perrez

    This to begin the season with. Aarons, arme et.c to get cup games and the odd prem sub appearence

  • 66 Oldgit1 // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Why is it I feel that there is going to be a sting in the tail after all this spending, assuming we get Remy. We all know what MA is like. He will come up with something to annoy us fans. Wait and see.

    Can’t see the need for Remy would much rather spend the money on Grenier or a good experienced CB or both.

    Might consider renewing my season ticket now. But may just wait a while longer to see what MA comes up with. There is always a price to pay with this guy in charge.

  • 67 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    T.T.V.V.T. @63
    Spot on

  • 68 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Firebug

    I know that, you know that strange that others haven’t realised. When plan A fails we revert to kick rush

  • 69 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    As it stands?
    Tiote Anita/Colback
    Sissoko SDJ Cabella
    Rivière

  • 70 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Oldgit

    Don’t renew it mate…1 average window after multiple dire ones doesn’t warrant snapping up season tickets. We will set up the same and play the same shite

  • 71 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    Our Toon
    Based on what?
    Don’t rate Pardew in the slightest but he’s shown before when he has the players he wants we play some very nice football
    We have a far more technical squad now don’t believe for one minute we’ll see the same football we saw from January onwards

  • 72 pedro // Aug 1, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    I would be pleased with Ferreyra on that loan deal. He was excellent as a young striker in Argentina and was regarded very very highly.
    Not saying it won’t happen but the goal article that says that this is virtually a done deal suggests that Ferreyra is still refusing to return to Shakhtar.
    A couple of days ago, Clarín (one of the main newspaper in Argentina) printed quotes from Ferreyra which said that “he didnt go straight back because his family said it was dangerous but he regretted doing it. Since then he has spoken to the owner and he has reassured him. Other players are safe and then he apologized to the club and the fans for not returning.
    That obviously doesnt rule out a deal but is left out of Goal’s report.
    Personally i hope this is one of Goal’s rumours that is true

  • 73 firebug666 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    To be fair I don’t think a bit for Remy has been accepted if Arry the Bung says he will be joining up with them in Ireland on Sunday and Training with them on Monday.

  • 74 JamesToon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Hopefully this will be the 25 man squad for the seasonL:

    GK: Krul – Elliot

    FB: Janmaat – Santon – Haidara – Dummett

    CB: M’Biwa – Coloccini – Taylor – Williamson

    CM: Tiote – Colback – Anita – Abeid – Bigirmana

    WS: Cabella – Gouffran – Sissoko – Aarons

    AM: de Jong – Grenier

    CF: Remy – Riviere – Ferreyra – Armstrong

    Backup: Elliot – Streete – Satka – Raylor – Sammy – Vuckic – Campbell

    Flexible 4-5-1 formation that can adapt into a 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 narrow diamond and 4-3-3:

    ____________Krul______________
    _Janmaat M’Biwa Coloccini Haidara_
    Sissoko Tiote de Jong Grenier Cabella
    ____________Remy_____________

  • 75 Belfast // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Good news on the striker front, still need one more though.

  • 76 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    Here we go again: the doom-mongering; everything expected to be as bad as it could be. None of the new boys can cut it in the PL. Nobody comes back from injury. Nobody comes through from the academy or reserves.

    They said it all three years ago and went quiet when we stormed off to 5th. A year later everyone could see that with Europe we weren’t strong enough. A year after that, having bought in six new players in January the doom-mongers were back, but by Christmas we were knocking at the European door again. If they hadn’t sold the one player that made it all tick we’d be buying tickets to Europa games by now.

    Just for once, how about a bit of optimism, excitement, expectation?

    This may be the recruitment team that brought us Obertan and Marveaux, but it’s also the team that brought us Tiote, Cabaye, Debuchy, Ba, Cisse-the-1st (not the crap doppelganger of last year), Santon….

    The chances of all these new players not making the grade are practically zip. The chances that most will look pretty high.

    Yes, we’d all like to see a nailed-on scorer like Loic up there, but I’m much happier to see the depth and options that we have.

    Ashley will have to sell at least 3 key players to have the same impact he had in January by selling 1. THAT is what we should be excited about.

  • 77 JamesToon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    There’s no question that our style needs to be a lot more fluid, so that we do have a plan B if something isn’t working or a key player is sold.

  • 78 JamesToon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Well said whumpie. As i said last night i’m giving pardew one last crack of the whip as we know we can do well.

  • 79 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    @pedro

    You need not worry mate its a done deal. He’s here on loan.

  • 80 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Whumpie
    How the hell is it doom mongering ffs?
    No one went quiet when we finished 5th

    The club, not fans moaning, have stated they are after another striker so why the hell are you hellbent on building an argument AGAINST having squad depth and a top CF?
    Baffling

  • 81 Beatroll25 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Can someone please explain to me why we still go out and sign these technically gifted players when Alan is still around.

    It baffles me.

    2 years ago I said that NUFC should wither sack him or back him. We cannot have the quality we have with the manager we have got.

    I’d much rather have a team similar to Stoke whilst we have Pardew. That sounds horrible but the silver fox has a better chance of winning with those players than the ones we have.

    Yet time and time again we get these gifted individuals and we all know that Plan A is to hoof it up and play direct as Pards tries to be a cut price Mourinho. Plan B used to be to stick Shola on but we don’t even have that this season.

    Absolute madness. Sack Alan and bring in a new coach and see what he can do with the team we have. Add Grenier, another CB and Remy and we have a team capable of worrying the top 4 and should perhaps get close to winning silverware in the cups.

    Pardew makes us similar to a team in administration. A 15-20 point deduction before a ball has even been kicked.

  • 82 Toonfan8 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    I like this Facundo boy, he looks like a real goalscorer, know where the net is…but we still need Loic Remy, if we can manage this transfer to go through, then we will have best squad in MA era for sure…I see us a real contenders for top 6 if L.Remy will be here…yes we are maybee short of strong,high CB but maybee MYM will come good…

  • 83 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Facundo Ferreyra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9v6fiShk_g

  • 84 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Whumpie & TADS

    It’s a sorry state of affairs when 1 player derails an entire season, 1 good season and looking at pards record he always has a good 1st full season, things tend to go pot after though. We lost to Arsenal at home beat 9 man Stoke otherwise we were heading for another defeat, lost to WBA, Citeh, Cardiff and this was whilst Cabaye was here….The wheels had already come off cabaye going was the smokescreen needed as he scored 2 goals in a victory against a WH team that were missing 9 first team players and had just lost 7-0 to citeh in midweek!!

    Once bitten twice shy, this inept man will lead us to mid table mediocrity again and again and again, bear minimum is what the club are doing both on and off the pitch. Call it doom mongering but I call it realism. A few signings and the optimistic lot come out the woodwork, CL, UEFA Cup soon leads to why are we watching this dross, more unwanted records being broken.

    Key area not addressed is the defence and upfront we look toothless, Campbell will never make it in the prem and Armstrong isn’t good enough yet and may never be good enough!!

  • 85 Slank // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    I see De Jong is not going to Germany due to his recent injury. Also missing and predictably so is Jonas and Ben Arfa.

    Sissoko is in the party for Germany.

  • 86 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    TADS

    My rant was more for Whumpie than you mate but I went off on one so please disregard that as intended for you.

    We need a CB of real quality and a CF of real quality and we need that quick

  • 87 G // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Ha ha, somebody is editing Ferreyre’s wiki page and making a right pigs ear of it, refering to the ‘Silver Fox’ inviting him for a night out in Blubambu (Didn’t that close donkeys ago?). It’s quite funny though assuming the moderators havent decimated it.

  • 88 scitoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Tads – How exactly are we lacking goals next season when we haven’t even kicked a ball in anger yet? Who is to say how things will pan out.

    You really want Remy after everything that has gone on? In addition to his attitude towards signing for us, it is quite obvious BR thought he was a bit of d1ck and pulled the plug on the transfer.

  • 89 scitoon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Tads – In addition, do you believe that the Club tell the truth now? The Club says we want another striker and tads believes it to be gospel. Obviously no argument to be made here on that basis….

  • 90 Tinman // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    G, yeah, we lost Bambu a while back. RIP.

    p.s Hey Ed, told you Sissoko would be on the plane to Germany. Makes me wonder how many of your other stories are fabricated ;)

  • 91 Tinman // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    If Mapou isn’t going to get a fair shot under Pardew then we should consider loaning him out, if he plays well abroad his value will increase and we won’t lose as much. He was 13m if I remember rightly…
    But if he stays or goes it is imperative we buy a big commanding, pacey centre half to partner Colo. Willo and Tayls will do as back up, nothing else.
    Honestly think CB should be our biggest priority now.

  • 92 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    If we get the Argentine forward and Remy, we’d just need Konoplyanka, Grenier, Alderweireld and Zouma on loan to have a chance of challenging for the top 10.

  • 93 Our Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Tinman

    This might be controversial but Mapou can’t cut it in the prem, he looks very poor and just doesn’t do the basics right, forever making bad decisions or tackling with the wrong foot…just my opinion

  • 94 toonicle // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    IF we really are getting this Ferreyra in then no thanks to Remy! Him with Riviere, Perez ,Cisse when he’s back fit and Armstrong off the bench I don’t see a need for Remy the mercenary.

  • 95 toon kk // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Our toon is correct,
    Two key areas haven’t been addressed yet, CF And CB. We’ll not function properly without quality signings in those areas.

  • 96 nut meg // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Tinman
    MYM cost no where near 13m, around 7.5m is more like it

  • 97 swemag // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    We have an exciting squad of footballers this season.

    Looking forward.

    In fact, can’t wait, bring on Man City!!

  • 98 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    The deals aren’t sealed yet. Even if we just signed the Argentine, Remy and Grenier, I’d be satisfied. That’d mean, we’d just need 2/3 players to have the complete squad.

  • 99 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    Pleased we have turned our attention to Argentinian talent. I wanted us to sign Mauro Zarate.

  • 100 Markaccus // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    Only room for 25 senior players and dont forget the home grown quota.

  • 101 toon kk // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    Swemag
    yes we have a much better look. Not sure about competing with city, whos going to get all our goals?

  • 102 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    Agree we need a CF, and I also think MYM hasn’t looked like a PL player. Yet.

    As for the rants about desperately needing scorers… we’ve heard it all before; it’s the same every pre-season. No optimism, just a list of players and why they will fail.

    This summer so far we’ve brought in an attacking full-back with a world cup 3rd place medal, a full international number 10, one of Frances’ brightest midfield creator prospects and CL player and three – THREE – very exciting young strikers.

    Yes, I hear you when you rant about wanting a proven PL goal-getter, but I think you’re 10 years behind the times. That’s just not how you get good finishes in the PL any more; it’s about lots of options and lots of sources of goals.

    That’s exactly what this “completely inept” manager and the recruitment team have assembled, and their track records suggests that we should stop comdemning them before they’ve even kicked a ball and wait for some fireworks.

    Remy made a big difference when he played last season – but still only got 14 goals. That’s because there was nobody around him on consistent form to back that up. What the club have done – thank goodness – is resisted the Fat Fred urge to go sign one player for £30m and hope he saves us all, and instead do some clever business to pack the squad with talent and variety.

  • 103 Whumpie // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    So here’s the question: what position will we have to be in come Christmas for you to be happy, doom-mongers? I think we were 7th last season; which was pretty good for a team of “hoofballers”, eh?

    Especially one with some of the best passes per game and lowest long-ball stats. That’s one unique brand of hoofball!

  • 104 Markaccus // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    At least the remy debate is pretty much over. Still want another striker in if we can, but id now say a CB is a priority.

  • 105 Markaccus // Aug 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    Whumpie

    i agree with you on this. Yes we have only replaced rather than added, but despite 2 of tje out goings being cabaye and remy, i think we have ended up stronger going forward over all. Just need a CB now. Another out and out cf would be a welcome bonus.

  • 106 swemag // Aug 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    @toon kk

    competing with City is a bit far off, but I think we can rattle and surprise them in an early game in the season like this one.

    They have a lot of players that has been given extra leave because of the world cup, we have a lot of new players that has something to prove.

    Comparing this to last year when we opened against City, before the game it honestly felt like we could just close the shop and go home. The following game pretty much summed that up, it was horrible.

    Slightly different feeling this year. What I have seen of Perez he is quite impressive, always composed and with purpose on the ball, to me he should be considered a first team player and I don’t buy the things being said that the opponents so far has not been PL standard, if he is good he is good.

    For the goals, we have options, SDJ, Cabella, Riviere, Gouffran, Perez…they will come.

  • 107 Ian Toon // Aug 1, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    Reading the blog today, aside from transfer talk, it seems that many fans are already speculating on us sending players out on loan. Names mentioned include Armstrong and Campbell in particular. Given our desire for self sufficiency then the development of academy players is vital. That simply is why we’ve had to wait for two seasons to seriously enter the transfer market because the Europa season saw a good number of so called young talent underperform and with a self sufficiency model we did not
    have a conveyor belt of talent to replace proven PL players. The model has been kept alive by sales but not at a time of our choosing- certainly in the case of Cabaye.

    At the same time Pardew has made it clear that high transfer fees for Southampton academy players has pushed prices up and were left having to buy foreign. I would prefer to view the Southampton approach to youth development as a model for us to follow. The Saints are a club with a superb academy but more importantly they have a different philosophy of keeping young academy players within the club rather than sending them out on loan and blooding them in the first team. You have to have a longer term goal in football if your not one of the wealthier clubs. Southampton have consistently got it right by developing players in the proper manner. I recognise that many clubs use the loan system to enhance the value of a player for future sale and the rewards are worth the effort as well. How long will it take for other clubs to start thinking longer than the immediate term and focus more on developing players in the proper manner? We need to produce better players than those we currently have.

    In comparing the Toon with Saints we’ve got competition from Sunderland and the geography of where we are. Southampton have an enormous urban area as well as London to select from and few competitor clubs. They got Lallana from Bournemouth academy, mind we somehow got Rolando Aarons from Bristol City. He would be a prospect for this programme at 18 and talented. Let’s not farm him out on loan but give him game time over a season, assuming he does well.

    We need to qualify for Europe this season in order to provide a platform for development of what I reckon is the best group of 17-20 year olds we’ve seen for many a season. Carr has done well with the likes of Satka. I’ve heard talk of an academy/ under 21’s stuffed with talent. We’ve just got to do better than bring through just the likes of Krul, AC and Saylor.

  • 108 SUFC_rule // Aug 1, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    All you Newcastle fans complaining that he’s treating you as a last resort…lets be honest, could you honestly blame him? Your club is a circus. I know I wouldn’t enjoy playing professional football in a circus, I assume Remy wouldn’t either.

  • 109 JrReps // Aug 1, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    Krul
    Janmaat-colo-saylor-santon
    Tiote-grenier
    Sissoko – de Jong. – cabella
    Remy

    That is CL quality




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