Is There Still Hope For This Frenchman At Newcastle?

After Ben Arfa’s agent Michel Ouazine had criticized Alan Pardew on Thursday for having his client train with the Reserve team, and for fining the French winger for coming back to pre-season overweight, which Ouazine said was unfair and humiliating, Alan Pardew has hit back with a couple of interesting sentences on the BBC yesterday.

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Ben Arfa and Alan Pardew in happier times

This is what Alan Pardew said yesterday on BBC Radio Newcastle:

“It’s a simple situation,” “We have a professionalism and a level of commitment to our work that he needs to fall into.”

“And until he falls into that he won’t be part of the first team.”  “He isn’t at the moment, and he’s injured ironically, but he’s still part of the club.”

Ever since Alan Pardew arrived at Newcastle he has called out players who do not train well,  and who are late to training,  and the first one he did that with was young Nile Ranger, who didn’t last too long under Pardew before he was shipped out.

We don’t think Ben Arfa is late to training, but perhaps he doesn’t train with the necessary urgency and commitment that the Newcastle manager requires, although Ouazine would dispute that.

But maybe those last few words from Pardew that the player is still at the club, is a little hint that perhaps it’s not all over with Ben Arfa at Newcastle?

But the situation between the two men is not good, and we think that if some good club comes in for Ben Arfa before September, he will move – but only on loan,  so he can then become a free agent next summer.

It’s simply a waste of talent that between Alan Pardew and Hatem they cannot get this thing sorted out, so that Ben Arfa can at least be available to Newcastle this season.

But it would appear that both men would have to give with their position a bit,  for that to be possible.

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16 comments so far

  • Markaccus

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #1

    When mym came here, i dont honestly think he himself knew what his best position was. With that in mind, i wonder if he has made the choice to train himself this summer into a full back. He has had a couple of really good games so far this pre season. Just a thought

  • Markaccus

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #2

    Well, it seems AP has left the door a miniscule amount ajar. HBA could do well to follow MYMs example and knuckle down.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #3

    That was nine years ago I watched the game in a pub in Croydon, STaylor must have been 18/19 years old then and the whole team collapsed if I remember, the report you highlighted actually mentions a mistake by Stephen Carrr which seals our fate.

  • Sliema

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #4


    I hope you’re wrong about MYM, and tbh I think you are anyway lol. He’s more of a CB, he’s quick, but not agile enough to play FB. He gets beaten in 1-on-1s a lot too. I don’t think we need another fullback. We certainly need a CB more!!!

    I really don’t think they’d have him training to be a FB.

  • expatmag

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #5


    I was thinking that myself and made a comment a few days ago where I expected Sissoko to be sold on deadline day to someone like Monaco for around 15 million pounds.

    The trend has always been to raise the hopes before an almighty back to earth crash.

    However, I am hoping the sales of Cabaye and Debuchy are our only major outgoings with possibly HBA on his bike too

  • Sliema

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #6


    He cost us that game mate. He was absolutely awful. I’m just not a fan at all. If he wasn’t a local lad, then he’d get slaughtered on here.

  • JDdubai

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #7

    What has led you to believe MYM didnt know his best position?

    This is MYM, captain and CB of the French double winners who had started getting caps at CB for France at the age of 21 or whatever…

    He came here and has never been one of our first choice CBs, this when you look at the quality we have there and the goals we concede is ridiculous for me. He only gets a game as CB when injuries or suspensions occur.

    He is a young international CB who we should stick with as he is the future, Colo has 1 season left, Taylor has 10 games a season in him. And when we went to 3 CBs last season and still Pardew didnt pick him, I mean, Im surprised he stuck around to be honest as that must have been a huge kick in the teeth for him.

  • Markaccus

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #8


    I think whatever choice has been made, its his, not tje clubs. However, the kid is talanted, and whatever his chosen position i am delighted to see the news he may stay after all. Id like to see him work on his arial ability if he wants to be a CB, but it is clear to see now that he is going to be good enough, especially if he keeps up this very professional attitude 🙂

  • Markaccus

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #9


    Simply because MYM did not seem 100% comfortable playing at either FB or CB last season. I think he found the demands of the premiership more than he expected, and was struggling to find how he could best fit in. The french game is totally diffetent to here. He seems to have worked very hard, and now seems confident in himself.

  • clinath@ed

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #10

    Sorry Markaccus…..but I just don’t see it. I’ve watched all but one of the friendlies and to be honest he looks all over the place. His positioning is poor, and his ball distribution dire, but worse, he just looks scared or indifferent….I don’t know which.

  • Shadow_Shearer

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #11

    I would use MYM in cb and also use him in def mid as well. Will give us more cover in both positions. Tioti or MYM def mid, colback and Anita central mid.

  • clinath@ed

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #12

    Sliema, Saylor is a mess of a player. Rather than get on with his own job on the pitch, he’s constantly telling others what to do and feels obliged to anticipate a colleagues, supposed, errors. Also his constant dropping off to be a surrogate goalkeeper, rather than marking someone does my heed in.

  • Markaccus

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #13


    i dont think he did owt wrong in NZ! I think people were scrutinizing him simply because Pardew picked him in that position, and were waiting (almost hoping) for him to fail so they could bash Pardew. To me he seemed aware and fit. It has given me belief that wherever he has chosen to play, he can do a good job there this season.He played in an ever changing system at sheffeild so no rythm could be found for anyone. That was just a run out so i am not worried about it at all.

  • Slank

    Aug 2, 2014 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #14


    Remember two days ago:
    ‘ Slank – If nufc are doing transfer business in your bones, no wonder we find it hard to sign players?’

    The old bones don’t lie.

    Facundo Ferreyra and ‘..given up on signing Loic Remy so that the club keeps its, “…own respect and professionalism.”. Clearly the club were in discussion with QPR, Remy and his agent.

    My old bones are still telling me the club’s business is not finished.

  • dcdick

    Aug 2, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #15

    Why is he still here ?

    Pardew Out !!!

  • gazzaforever

    Aug 2, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #16

    Markaccus just fck off you always hated Hba why you keep on show up in his post , just fck off, you know sht about football.


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