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Malaga 3 Newcastle 1 – All The Goals – Video

5:07 pm, Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 332 Comments

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  • 1 Online Guy // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Summing the game up

    We did not push up on the Malaga defence , they had it easy throughout the game ..knocked it about from the back ..always had a man in position when in possession, to receive a pass, even in tight situations ..no rush for them ..they also played some good 1-2 touch football..they are a Team

    Newcastle ‘s passing was rushed and chancy, 40 yard balls played out of defence only in the hope of a Newcastle player getting on the end of it ..it was poor percentage play . We gave them a lot of time and just never pushed up on them only getting a foot in in the last third ..

    Malaga tore us a new one showing Pardew how to play as a team.

    The team is fractious just now . many new faces means we are not a settled Team ..we can give it time ..See what transpires .

    Unless the football philosophy changes ..and it wont imho..Pardew is going back south before October comes.

    “To many youngsters today” said Alan .

    You pick the Team Alan.

    Here we go again.

  • 2 davetoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    The fact that Obertan scored a decent goal should prove to everyone that pre-season form is irrelevant

    Its just about getting match fitness into the players

  • 3 Slank // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Quick word on Elliot. He had no chance with the goals. He did prevent a rout in the first half.

  • 4 Blaydon-Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    I voiced my fears about Cabella being too lightweight for the rigours of Premiere league football – rolled around everytime he lost the ball – do people really think he is better than HBA ?

  • 5 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    48welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    all of the players that have played so far before today’s match, everyone on here have been praising the squad that they have been doing well, and today because we lost the match now all of a sudden people on here are saying get rid of this player and that player to be honest it’s quite pathetic really.

  • 6 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:12 PM

    Rotonda

    But he did habe kids up front, who were inefective. You know as well as anyone that an inefective front line puts more pressure on the defence. I agree his tactics are too negative for nufc, but if you ask someone to be honest, and shoulder responsibility, it becomes rediculous to tear into them when they do it.

    SLOW DOWN ED, MAN

  • 7 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    Markaccus
    August 2, 2014
    No manager is going to resign after losing a freindly ffs. People on here are acting like spoilled little brats and idiots.

    Well said mate totally agree with you

  • 8 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    Online guy

    Pardew has accepted the blame.

  • 9 valle // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:15 PM

    What worries me the most, is that the players looked lost… They simply didnt know what to do, they lost possession with bad passing and they looked like they had no way through the Malaga defense. Its not like we had that bad a team out there, there were plenty of which are supposed to be first 11 players next season…

  • 10 Slank // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    I agree with todays commentator that the time for experimentation is coming to an end and the team Pardew hopes to start with against Man City need to start playing together now and continue with every preseason game.

  • 11 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    i would love it if we win tomorrow, just to shut the moaners up

  • 12 Ancientcoptic // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Online Guy – thanks for the summary, I did not see the game.

    It sounds like nothing much has changed.

    Another season of being dominated by teams keeping possession, and more premature ejeculation style football… the team getting excited on the ball, going crazy and doing something stupid.

  • 13 Pottsclock // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    For me this match just proved that we need a commanding, quality CB or we are in big trouble.
    Regarding whether any of the new players are PL quality – just too early. But Aarons again showed some talent.

  • 14 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    How many games have we played compared to other teams in the prem

  • 15 martoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    We are playing 2 games in 2 days so Pardew has to mix and match. We were poor today but let’s not go and hang ourselves yet! Although Willo is limited he knows how to defend and I don’t understand how he has slipped below Taylor in the pecking order.

  • 16 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    Welsh

    it wont make a difference. Pardew will still get stick for putting them out in the wrong type of socks or something

  • 17 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    I agree that after 4 years I still haven’t got a clue what Pardew’s game plan is other than to defend (badly) and hope Remy/Ba/Cisse will score a goal .

    Imagine a manager that had us set up to sit back and counter attack with pace, players like Sissoko,HBA, Cabella & Rivierre would be deadly in that set up .

  • 18 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    Martoon

    I think tuesday and next weekend we will see the team pardew hopes to start.

  • 19 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    I think Ben Arfa is our best player and should be starting every week. After that performance, it’s evident that we need him.

  • 20 Online Guy // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Markaccus

    He is good at shifting the Blame ..this time to the youngsters, Clever .

    .Don’t forget he sees the south as an area where we should be recruiting players from ..young players..he said they were from better educated middle class backgrounds and were very intelligent compared to the north. Cant forgive him for that one ..

    We can give Pardew a clean slate though ..New season and all that…Let’s see how it goes..

  • 21 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    so pardew takes the blame gets hammered for it
    by the same people who says he never takes the blame
    ya gotta laugh like

    its pre-season
    its the 1st game of 2 in 24 hours yes thats 2 games in 24 hours!

    we’ll start a stronger team tomorrow
    with a mix of starters from today with the second half subs

    marks right if we win tomorrow the same lot will still be complaining

  • 22 Slank // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Valle

    Not really surprised they looked lost. It was Cabella’s first game. It was Sissoko’s first game back from his holidays,. It was Perez’s second or third game and he had never played with either Cabella or Sissoko. Armstrong looked lost not surprisingly so with these players around him.

    It really was a poor selection by Pardew. But he has apologised.

  • 23 Ron Knee // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    Online
    Then roll on October.

  • 24 Slank // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    Kets

    You will have to get him out of Greggs first.

  • 25 Ethiotoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    Malaga teached us a lesson today…
    The only thing I took from the game is that
    Haidara,obertan and Aarons gave me great football satisfaction.more than i expected.I don’t know why they told obertan to leave but he looks good today for me.will be good backup in some situation.
    Convincingly beaten though..

  • 26 Slank // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    Martoon

    He was injured.

  • 27 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Online

    but he hasnt shifted the blame! Honestly it wouldn’t matter what he said it would be twisted on here to make it look like he said something else. You are reading between the lines and getting extracts from 50 shades of grey.

  • 28 bladeuser // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    Welsh
    not everyone on here praised the performances we r realists
    new zealand teams oldham shef wed come on your having a laugh no matter what team that nomark puts out it will be disorganised we will beat teams this year if they have an off day thats the top 8 and scrap for points with the others when r u and the pardew fans going to wake up the guy is useless as a manager who needs to take the next step but ok if you want a team that finishes in the middle or below he has,nt got it and never will have
    pardew plus our defence is relegation time

  • 29 davetoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    Just to put it into perspective, Real have played 2 games in their pre-season comp and drawn against Inter (lost on pens) and lost against Roma…

    You think Ancelotti GAF?

    Its about match fitness and implementing a game plan. God help us on the last one but Ashley gave Pardew a freakin 8 year contract so we know the story

  • 30 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    If Pardew doesn’t get the midfield right we are shafted, royally.
    The back 4 had no protection and thus, looked gash and there was no orchestration in attack.
    Tiote will have a busy season, shame he’ll be suspended a lot!
    Still need a playmaker in there alongside him, If we don’t sign one then Anita is the best alternative.
    Bit naive of Pardew to start with 2 young, slightly built attackers.
    The Williamson backpost set piece thing – He must score for fun in training, shows you how woeful we are at basic defending!

  • 31 JP...from The Rock // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    repost;

    Although Pardew might be right in that he started with two kids upfront it is not the reason for that pathetic display in the first half. Our defense and midfield was all over the place in that period, the forwards had nothing to do with it as they barely had a sniff. Any striker up front would have a hard time in that half as we were useless defending as a unit and had no shape whatsoever, it’s not the strikers fault as even if we had Messi there he wouldn’t have helped that much with the rest of the team playing so poorly.

    And once again this tool of a manager doesn’t learn from mistakes and can’t mix it up in set-pieces yet again he played the long hopeful ball to Willo to make something happen, something that never has had any success in 300 times he’s tried the same bloody move!!

    If after 5 games in the new season we have only amassed a point I really hope Pardew is sacked at long last.

  • 32 Online Guy // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    Give me an English Defence every time , you can accommodate the odd overseas player ..and also maybe more if they are top class and proven ..but when your slinging a defence of inexperience and potential together then you need to understand each other.

    How many nationalities play in our back 4 or 5 ? all speaking different languages is not great initially and it takes time ..you don’t get much of that in the prem.

    I see our defence as a powder puff entity ..absolutely no communication and lacking in understanding .

    Not together at all ..an easy touch.

    Last season was Dire

  • 33 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    there is no shifting the blame

    he said he made the wrong selection

    cabella debut
    armstrong and perez 1st start together
    sissoko 1st game
    plus colback and abeid behind them

    i.e never played together!

    thats wat he’s admitted to wrong selection

    and it showed in the second half when he changed it

  • 34 valle // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    Slank… I know, and its only a friendly. But we are getting close to kick off in the EPL and im just a bit worried that we dont seem to have a game plan. We cant penetrate the final 3rd and that was our problem last season as well. And we cant defend, which was also a problem last season… Hopefully im just overreacting, but I didnt get any confidence by that display at all. Hopefully they will do better against schalke, although that is supposed to be a tougher game.

  • 35 Ancientcoptic // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    Surely Malaga were playing young players and experimenting too… I am holding fire on Pardew and giving him one more chance this coming season, but to get owned by Malaga isn’t surprising. Not one bit. They are a well run side. We however still have to master the art of corners… never mind the rest.

  • 36 Slank // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    Pardew experimented with some young players and some players who are new to the team. This is what many on this blog have wanted.

    It didn’t work and he has acknowledged it. In part this is what preseason games are all about. If he hadn’t have played the youngsters rest assured there would have been quite a few people on this blog voicing their derision at him.

  • 37 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Pardew often picks the wrong team. He always picks a defensive team. A negative team. This is wrong for nufc. He showed a more positive selection so far this season, but you still cant help thinking he will revert to type.

    Having said this, putting words in his mouth, or deliberately twisting what he says just to moan about him, detracts from any valid complaints you have.

  • 38 WestJez // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    ….seems that 3 things can be learned from today:

    1.nufc need a new cb.
    2.double youngsters won’t work – probably until they’ve more experience at the top level
    3. The first team are in desperate need of gelling together. We’ve yet to see anything like a first team in a friendly yet! Plus we’ve just signed yet another player!

  • 39 cyprus // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    Does AP realise that we (and Mike) aren’t going to give him more time than till December?

    If he wants to succeed he’ll have to pick the best team from ALL players. Which means starting our best player every game. Simple really.

    Anyway, hope for his sake and ours that AP figures out the game of football in time.

  • 40 martoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    Markaccus – I think he’ll play a young team mid week – but next Saturday I think he’ll start with his first 11 assuming De Jong is fit.

  • 41 Online Guy // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    Clean slate for Pardew mind , Its early doors ..we were outplayed by a club with a football philosophy that goes through the Club at every level ..we need that same ethos.

    We are fractious at the moment but hopefully we will improve.

  • 42 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    bladeuser

    Might not be everyone but certainly a Majority

  • 43 davetoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    Any news on Siem? We all know our biggest problem will be scoring goals… can’t see us scoring too many without him in the team

  • 44 JP...from The Rock // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    Pardew need to wake up and realize that he needs the team to be more inventive, defend as a unit, be more creative in set-pieces and when we have the ball always pass and move with players one or two other players running into space and giving options.

    We cannot keep playing so negative, so passive and just assume that we’ll be alright the next game. He needs to drill this into the team ASAP as time is quickly running out to gel all these great new acquisitions into the team and this work ethic of neat pass and move football.

    We no longer have battering rams like Carroll (thank God) so long balls should be eradicated from our play. We should work on quick short passing, 1-2 touch football on a daily basis in training. Only then will we see a consistent improvement.

  • 45 catchy in norway // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    looking forward to the start of the season,

    same old fools expecting things to be different because of all the new players,

    it won’t take long until you turn on the new or young players , blaming them for not being good enough,

    pardew must go if we are to finish in the top 10, Southampton will still finish above us , even with all there beat players gone

  • 46 Online Guy // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    Looking at our midfield ,,it looks well stocked and good to go..great

    Our defence is ..well……poor..

    We conceded some real sloppy goals last season, looked like the defence was asleep ..and no one taking responsibility..all looking at each other when something went wrong.

    We really do need a couple of leaders at the back ..

  • 47 Sazzer // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Ancientcoptic
    “We however still have to master the art of corners…”
    http://www.nufcblog.com/2014/08/02/great-gabby-obertan-goal-against-malaga-video/

  • 48 davetoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    @catchy don’t get me wrong. If I had a choice it certainly wouldn’t be Pardew but we know he has another 7 years in his contract so we have to be realistic about what can happen

  • 49 Ethiotoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Valle
    That’s why we need Grenier.I. said it thousand times. we need pure playmaker.
    Some one that penetrate a stubborn defence like today against malaga.can’t blame cabella or sissoko or ..I think this is their first game in PS.
    But we showed some promising football too,great one two some times…
    Interesting to see what difference janmaat
    cabella and siem will bring…
    Aarons have great future no doubt..

  • 50 baloo // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    We need a good centre back.Steven “Picasso” Taylor is simply not good enough.I call him picasso because he spends more time on the canvas than Picasso ever did.Maybe taylor could be a painter
    Or maybe him and pardew could start a new business painting lines on the road

  • 51 catchy in norway // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    manx

    king tool of the fools

    pardew took the blame for the blunt attack , playing young kids up front

    ok

    I notice he said nothing about the 3 we shipped in at the other end of the pitch

    hmmm , I could have lived with a 0-0 and him saying that , but to get hammered 3-1 , then point the finger at the attackers , is one of Pardews great slight of hand tricks that you fall for

  • 52 Ancientcoptic // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Sazzer, whilst Obertan’s shot at goal was full of purpose, the Goalkeeper should have had that.

    The goal wasn’t scored from a corner, Obertan received the ball, had to beat a player then had his effort on goal.

    How many goals have we scored from corners in competitive matches over the last 3 seasons??? The answer speaks for itself.

  • 53 catchy in norway // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    dave

    I just hope we have a night mare start to the season, his life will be hell

  • 54 Shaker Shakrah // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    baloo

    Ironically , Taylor was better than Colo in this match !!

  • 55 valle // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Ethiotoon… I agree that we need more brains further down the pitch, BUT, im afraid more players aint gonna make a difference on their own. Whether its Pardew or the coaching staff or both, we seem to lack a system, direction and purphose. Someone mentioned the other day that old Bobby could have worked wonders with this team, and I actually agree with that. Pardew will get yet another chance, and this defeat is not enough to move him on, but if he dosnt deliver with this team and the rumored incommings after the first 10 games, then he surely has to go. The only thing that concerns me is this… Will we be able to get someone better? Or will we get another MA friend, like Kinnear.

  • 56 Sazzer // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    Ancientcoptic
    I was just kidding with you.

    I will take a short-corner goal though it’s not like we seen plenty of those either.

  • 57 Ancientcoptic // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Ah, Okey Dokey.

  • 58 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    markakkus

    it’s no good accepting the blame and then keep repeating the same errors and negative game plan, match after match, expecting a different outcome.

  • 59 davetoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    @catchy. I’m sure you don’t really mean that.

    You would rather we lost and looked like getting relegated so Pardew was fired rather than have a successful season?

  • 60 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    Must be nice bringing on Wilshere, Arteta and Sanchez after already scoring 5!!!

  • 61 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    a bit left field but isn’t obertan worth a shot as a striker where he doesn’t have to think about delivering crosses but just getting behind the opposition’s defense.

  • 62 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    catchy back after a defeat strange that like!!!

    so are you saying a whole new front 5 didn’t have an effect on our game and defence in the 1st half?

  • 63 OhSholaAmeobi // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Really think this season would be a good time to ship Steven Taylor out (while he still has some value) and bring in either a decent strong centre back or give a youngster a chance. Gradually fazing Yanga-Mbiwa into the LCB position alongside Mike for now.

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    davetoon

    I don’t think he means that at all. He’s just saying a bad start would hopefully finally see the end of the prat.

  • 65 bladeuser // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Welsh
    what have the majority been praising until today we have played nobody when we played a footballing side we got stuffed
    if u have the right players with the right tactics from the manager its not easy but a lot easier than we make it watch malaga they pass not hard they move not hard we pass to them with no movement listen good manager have there players moving after they do there thing nufc r static the manager and coaches r to put it bluntly shit

  • 66 Jeff from Benwell // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Ketsbaia9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    I think Ben Arfa is our best player and should be starting every week. After that performance, it’s evident that we need him.

    he he wot a pilloch

    Ketsbaia – I bet you think Obertan is the 2nd best player after his wonder strike against Malaga

  • 67 Shearer the leg end // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Screaming out for a decent cb like. Why we haven’t went for micah Richards is beyond me

  • 68 Shaker Shakrah // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    I’d rather to see MYM & Williamson tomorrow as our CBs
    instead of the poor Colo and the other garbage Taylor

  • 69 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Pardew taking the blame is half hearted and is on the back of public abuse for him lying so much. Excuse bingo etc, which he knows about. He’s only saying it for PR now.

    Even then, he still manages to divert the blame of inept coaching on the excuse on youngsters. Alan, youngsters can still be coached movement and football as well you know.

    He’s a slippery slimeball is this berk.

    Silver-tongued propaganda merchant.

    Pre-season games shouldn’t be looked into too much, however when it resembles a run of some of the worst results EVER at the club from our last competitive games, it’s not a good sign.

    Nothing has changed, Pardew out.

  • 70 valle // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Is Ahsley Williams gone, or could that be a solution to our CB problems?

  • 71 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    Rotunda

    Have we not tried him up there before, all be it from the bench, seem to have a vague memory, maybe europa league

  • 72 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    It’s funny how persons like Manx always go on like it’s always only the last game. FFS we lost 14 out of the last 19 games last season. People like Manx make more excuses than pardew does himself if that were possible.

    More players to pardew just means more played out of position or auxillary defenders.

  • 73 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Baloo

    I think we need to look for the bear necesities first

    sorry could not resist

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    uncertain

    not sure but it just strikes me he goes to pieces when he has to analyse his options. Remove that and maybe he could still offer something

  • 75 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Shearer the leg end

    alleged attitude and awful injury record

  • 76 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    why blame the kids for saylor and colo’s awful positioning. Odious little man.

  • 77 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Rotunda

    I think I get your thinking, he loses the plot after getting himself in a good position to cross and when defending commits errors in dodgy places in an around our box.
    So give him a blast up front, no defensive duties, he has a good engine and could run across their back line all day, creating space for others.
    His head is almost spherical also and not a 50p so possibilities from crosses.
    Food for thought for Pardumb certainly mate!

  • 78 catchy in norway // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    daveT

    no I don’t want us relegated , but I’m ok with us not winning a few games so the crowd get on his back,

    watch him hide in the dug out , send out carver, to give instructions

    I want him to suffer for as long as he in charge of us , once he is gone , I will wish him all the very best out of life, just as long as it has nothing to do with our club

  • 79 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Before the kick off I posted I would be paying particular interest to Saylor and “ol permed hair”. Well they did not disappoint -both were rubbish/one not knowing what the other was doing/ball watching/poor positioning -weak perforamces from both.
    A continuance of last season -whilst it is a pre season tourno over 2 days -it was still a pretty dire affair to be honest.
    The heightened expectations following our signings have eroded somewhat.
    Percy Parsnip…………………………………..OOT.

  • 80 Pottsclock // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Although our defenders are poor, what they really lack is organisation. I remember us playing in the Champions league and setting the premiership alight with the following calibre of defender:
    – Steven Carr
    – Andy Griffin
    – Caldwell brothers
    – Andy O’Brian
    – Aaron Hughes
    – Nikos Dabizas
    – (young) Titus Bramble
    – Olivia Bernard
    ..just goes to show what proper organisation can do ! Yes, we had Woodgate for a season or so and Barton was solid but we also managed well without the calibre of Woodgate

  • 81 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    I can only assume (without reading any posts) that Obertan is now the answer. Given he scored a better goal than Perez who was the answer the other day logically it must be Obertan.

    Once again, this was a friendly. Abeid, Perez, Arma are nowhere near our first team. I will check back over posts now, but I’m fairly certain we will see a large overreaction either way.

  • 82 Pottsclock // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Sorry.. Stephen Carr

  • 83 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    We need that Forest Green player that scored that own goal about 12 years ago.

  • 84 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    Pardew tells Abeid to sit back too much. He’s better going forward. He needs to be given more chances.

  • 85 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    rotonda

    i’ll say again ya little drama queen

    2 games in 24 hours!!!

    do you understand or even know that???

    lets play our strongest team for these 2 games then once there fusked and injured you’ll have a real reason to complain about the selection

    idiot!!!

  • 86 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    pardew hasn’t really taken the blame, just pointed the finger at 2 rookies rather than hammering his useless senior experienced defense that he allegedly spends so much time on.

  • 87 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    lilo i’ll help you out just read rotondas and laurent roberts posts :)

  • 88 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Ketsbaia9

    “We need that Forest Green player that scored that own goal about 12 years ago.”

    Did your parents have any children that lived??

  • 89 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    “i have to take the blame for that 1st half”

    nah rotonda not at all!

    you said your a football coach or something havent you?

  • 90 catchy in norway // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    manx

    I have just came back from newcastle, I was there for 3 weeks , not one person I spoke too wanted pardew there,

    the taxi driver on the way back to the airport said he and his son had gave up their tickets and that he new a lot of people who felt the same as him, they see Ashley as the big problem, but will not pay to watch the football that we have been served up by pardew when it is plain to see he can’t get the best out his squad,

  • 91 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Rotonda

    I have to disagree. He said he has to take the blame for the selection. Having an inexperienced front line put pressure on the defence. Honestly, i know how you feel about Pardew but i think you are reading between lines that do not exist.

  • 92 Average_Contents // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    What’s 2 games in 2 days got to do with the way we played and the style of play (or lack of) even if we had the senior players in we’d of still played the same way….ya know kinda how we’ve played since parsnips been here, headless chickens with no gameplan, no cohesion and no idea about what they are meant to be doing!

  • 93 geordie1892 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    IMO the biggest issue with pardew is his formation, the 4-2-3-1. When used properly it would be well suited to our players but under Pardew it always ends up in a defensive 4-5-1 with absolutely no support to the front man.

    This is why we can never seen to score more than one/two goals a game. (I’m not counting the Sydney result for obvious reasons)

  • 94 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    For the first time this season I decided to watch a bit of our pre-season – that decision lasted all of 20 mins.

    While it would be advisable not to read too much into our performance in a pre-season friendly, we are just 2 weeks away from the start of the new season + the starting centre half pair are likely to play a considerable amount of our games together and the disjointed nature of their performance was quite worrying.

    M’biwa is not a RB, either stick him centre half and give him a chance to settle there or sell him. I still think he could develop into the best centre half at the club but I’m beyond thinking he will ever regularly be used there.

    Can’t say I saw too much of anyone else to really pass comment though.

  • 95 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    First friendly defeat, Catchy reappears.

    We were awful today, but it was half a team. Pardew says he played too many youngsters, but it isn’t like Goofy and Riviere improved our lot.

    We all need to relax a bit. Pre season is pre season. Shafted by Leyton Orient 6-1, won the Championship. We need a top centre half, and an actual centre forward. Maybe this Argentinian will do the job up front.

    Just as there was no need to get carried away when we played ‘well’ in New Zealand, this is no reason to panic.

  • 96 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    If we win tomorrow all moaners will be kissing pardews backside

  • 97 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    It’s a friendly ffs

    Already one clown today said get rid of colback

  • 98 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    What do you want him to do score from 40 yards

  • 99 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    Manx

    Ah poor lil Manx. Get you, I love you too sweetie.

    Now I’ll say this slowly for the extremely thick or hard of hearing. That’s you by the way, as missing the point appears to be your chosen speciality.

    Pardew as history shows us is a loser. I understand your empathy with this. Oh wtf, trying to get someone as cerebrally challenged as you to digest information just isn’t worth it. That’s 10 mins I’ll never get back.

  • 100 BuckLuck // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    I see Pardew is still sh1t. I think he will be gone in about two months. He is not able to balance a team at all. Never has been and never will be.

    Do the right thing Ashley and get rid of this horrible person and manager.

  • 101 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    It takes time today you have got new players mixed with youngsters, be patient

  • 102 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    Catchy,
    Hardly anyone wants Pardew here, but he is. I don’t blame him for todays result. He selected Arma, Perez and Abeid who many have been clamouring for on here, all were poor or ineffectual. His tactics don’t help, but that 11 we put out today was more for fitness and experience. As most pre season games are.

    The only worry from that game is that a minimum of 3 of the 4 defenders will start against City.

  • 103 Average_Contents // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Lil

    I agree it’s only pre-season which are for fitness really but the worrying thing about today was we played the same as last season when we got walloped everywhere on a weekly basis mate and I think that is what people are getting at especially since parsnip has stated he never had the “attacking fret” and “we’ve got more people to change games” and “being able to change tactics” which we didn’t do as the,same old shit from last season happened well that’s my issue anyway mste

  • 104 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    And what do you want Cabella to do run from the halfway line beat a few players go around the keeper and tap it in to an empty net.

    He will do that against man city

    Ha ha ha

  • 105 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Lilongwe

    My own views pretty much mirror your own. The main concern I took was how fractured the defence looked, especially considering that it was pretty much our starting back 4.

  • 106 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    Look on the bright swans beat reading 3-1 and guess what

    Gomis scores again

  • 107 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    Average,
    We played the same as last year, agreed. But after the Sheff Wed game people were rambling about Perez being a Prem player. Now, Parde splays him and people are complaining about our lack of threat. Perez, Arma, Aarons etc are all in need of loans and game time. None are good enough for the Prem.

    Most of us don’t want Pardew, but there is a complete lack of consistency in a large amount of the posts when it comes to selection.

  • 108 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Lilo

    It’s the style of play. nothing has changed since the 14 out of 19 defeats back end of last season. we have the same conversation virtually every post match.

    We beat a couple of conference standard teams in NZ but as soon as we meet a half decent passing team who pass and move on the deck we are all at sea. Malaga had some very young kids out there too.

    As I say its the club’s style, creed, belief whatever you want to call it, not just about the players.

    Colo has played 38 times for Argentina but under Pardew just looks awful at times with his decision making. Don’t even get me started on Pardew’s favourite Saylor.

  • 109 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    @ Welsh

    I couldn’t give a sh*t about Swansea m8 . This is the NUFC blog .

  • 110 geordie1892 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Tried making a list of reasons for and against keeping pards as manager and I’ve got to say the for list is pretty much empty…

    Suggestions?

  • 111 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    Mark- I think your doing well against the odds. I realise I could well be in the minority but I prefer to read those with fresh insights rather than the endless repetitive drivel which has little to do with a pre season friendly and more to do with what many see as ammunition against Pardew. He’s not Wenger but neither is he Allardyce.

    On a different note. The vast majority of football fans only visit websites that express their opinions, and it’s why we mostly hang around people who hold similar views and tastes. We tend to be put off by individuals, groups, and sources that make us feel uncomfortable or insecure about our strongly held views. It’s called cognitive dissonance which you might recognise as confirmation bias. Whilst we dismiss opinions irrespective of how valid they might be that threaten what we perceive as the collective view. The internet has made this tendency worse.

    What has this got to do with the game? It’s the “what has this got to do with the price of fish” moment – it’s about as relevant as the nonsense posted by the many on what was a pretty meaningless friendly. It was a pre season friendly where managers seek improved fitness levels and a few answers to questions in their head. Even Pardew. I remember going to a pre season friendly at Orient or was it Leyton Orient where we got hammered 5-1 it was prior to us going on to win the Championship. For some players it will be a wake up – having played against poorer friendly opposition so far it was evident that a good number first half were not doing the basics like closing down players on the ball. Your point on players giving away the ball up front was valid in that it puts so much pressure on the midfield and defence. I liked the look of Rolando Aarons.

  • 112 BuckLuck // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:47 PM

    Rotonda heights@108

    And what’s gonna happen when more and more teams in EPL are hiring modern managers? It’s a scary thought!

  • 113 Average_Contents // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:48 PM

    Ciaran

    Tbh the whole team looked fractured and looked like they didn’t have a clue what they are meant to be doing

  • 114 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    Now now don’t be like that

  • 115 mattnufc // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    I still see no cohesion whatsoever in our play, whereas Malaga were the oppoisite, especially in the first half. Pardew has been here almost 4 years so unfortunately I don’t see it changing until a new manager evenutally arises.

  • 116 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:51 PM

    rotonda wtf was that post about??

    not 1 thing in that post made sense lol

    i asked you a question and you didn’t answer so how does that make me “not digesting info”

    did i hit a nerve or can’t you again back up your supposed knowledge of football?

    your hatred of our manager masks any point you make full stop fella!

    look fat sam just beat shalke is he a better manager or has he got a better team than them?

  • 117 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    Yaya Sanogo with 4 goals for Arsenal and Joel with 1.

    amazing stuff.

    meanwhile we are treated to the same dross for another season.

  • 118 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    Average

    I sort of expect players like Abeid, Perez and Armstrong to not really look in sync with our first team, because they’re not really expected to be lining out on a regular basis.

    But surely we should be expecting that back four to be looking less fractured than we seen today? Especially against a rather average team in Malaga.

  • 119 mattnufc // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    @geordie
    Headbutting players then saying ‘I pushed him away with my head’?

  • 120 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:52 PM

    Average

    The players have looked lost for ages now.

    Buck luck

    It would just change the whole feeling and mood around the place if we got a good modern manager.

  • 121 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Ashley is never going to sack Pardew. I wonder why people keep thinking he will. I think this fact is starting to cause some people on here serious mental issues. Genuine suffering in some cases.

  • 122 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    Ciaran,
    Agreed, that was/is my main concern. Other than Janmaat, that is the defence playing City. It isn’t that they look fractured or disorganised, it is that the players don’t work as a unit. A centre half is a must, I don’t see us getting one, and that is a worry. Our defence was awful last year, and the only one who could potentially improve is Mbiwa.

    As for the attacking side, Cabeela’s first preseason match. Arma and Perez are nowhere near, Abeid, good in Greece, Prem back up at best. Colback does a job, pleased we got him, but nowt more than a decent Prem midfielder.

    If Chucky turns out well great, but we still need a centre back.

  • 123 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM

    manx

    So calling me a drama queen didn’t really hit a nerve with you then . You’re priceless and just a little dim I guess.

  • 124 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    all doom and gloom because we lost today

    Dear me

  • 125 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    Oh no the worlds going to end

  • 126 geordie1892 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    Its actually quite disturbing that there seems to be no genuine footballing reasons for Pardew to stay as manager. Under any other owner/chairman he would be long gone

  • 127 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    markakkus

    I would always have previously believed that.

    However, for the first time Ash has put in what for him represents serious money, ie 30M. Pardew has nowhere to hide now if he doesn’t produce.

  • 128 geordie1892 // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    Luckily for old Pards the new players we’ve brought in should buy him a bit of time with the excuse of ‘squad gelling’.

  • 129 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    @ Welsh

    Its people like you that aren’t seeing the bigger picture .

    What I saw today was the same thing I have seen hundreds of times under Pardew with us getting hammered and falling apart, not having a shot on target till the 6oth minute and having no game plan whatsoever . Oh and the old “hit it long for Willo” set piece technique .

    The best thing NUFC could do is not sign a top class striker, Centre back or winger . It would be to get rid of Pardew hands down .

  • 130 Rotonda heights // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    welsh

    we can do gloom and doom for at least half a season, if the last 2 are any to go by!

  • 131 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    Can you imagine Sir Bobby head-butting another player ? .

    What did NUFC fans do to deserve such a horrible human being and shocking manager to boot ? .

  • 132 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    Lilongwe

    I do think we’ll look a lot more solid down that right wing with Janmaat at RB – not because I think he’s fantastic, but purely down to the fact that M’biwa is just simply not a full-back and should never be played there.

    I don’t think he’s a bad player, and he has shown that he has got some genuine quality, I just think he has never settled here, partly down to the fact that he’s hardly been given a consistent run at centre half.

    Cabella showed a couple of nice touches from what I seen of him, but we need him to actually control games much like Cabaye did, although I know they’re different players. As for Colback? A slightly better Gosling, and not much different from Guthrie in all fairness but I agree, he’ll do a job.

    As for any of the strikers, I really can’t comment. Not overly impressed with any of their tallies in foreign leagues, but they could adapt to the league and do well. It’s a wait and see sort of thing.

    However, my issue comes from the fact that in a few years time we’ll be flogging them for a profit and repeating this process all over again so I find it hard to get motivated as a fan for this coming season.

  • 133 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    rotonda no not at all you continuously prove to be a drama queen lol
    as i proved not so long ago

    but again no answer to my question

    so does having a whole new front 5 effect a teams performance and defence?

    simple question to someone who says he coaches football isn’t it?

    can you digest that question???

  • 134 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Rotonda,
    After the previous friendlies you were happy that the style of play looked improved. As I pointed out at the time, these are friendlies and fitness is the key at these stages. My point is, people were happy with stuff in NZ but because of 1 result in a friendly we are awful.

    I still don’t see us as an improved side from last year with the signings. I still don’t see Pardew as a good manager. But this was a friendly defeat with a group of kids playing, who many wanted to see play. yet he has been lambasted for selection and tactics.

    Passing was poor throughout, that isn’t Pardew’s tactics. Cabella was anonymous, but it was his first game. Taylor has’t been good for years, and Colo is ageing, but there isn’t much else. Hardly anyone would disagree with Pardew being poor on a good day, but today’s result had little to do with his inability, more alack of fitness and players who aren’t ready/won’t cut it.

  • 135 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    Rotonda

    Thats a VERY valid argument. However, Ashleys success barometer is significantly different from most others. He will expect top half and be happy with it. He is an ambitionless moron after all!

    On the plus side, he may also expect a more attractive brand of football to bring in the ‘casual’ fans. I.e. those who go to the odd match and buy the odd shirt. If he doesnt get that, he MAY look at giving El Zorro Plata the old heave ho.

  • 136 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    Rotonda

    Ashley hasn’t put in a penny. Net spend in the last 7 season aside, he hasn’t even fully spent the money made on Cabaye and Debuchy, so let’s not be giving credit where it’s not due. He’s done the bare minimum, nothing more.

  • 137 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    So if we win tomorrow because of pardews tactics and formation will you celebrate

  • 138 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    Where has this idea that Ashley has backed us this summer?

    He’s just spent the money that came in from sales.

    Nothing of the ~70m TV money! Or god forbid his or SD’s!

    Re: today- more of the same from Pardew. Absolutely no plan whatsoever, trying the same obvious things that have failed previously (e.g. THAT ingenius corner routine!)

  • 139 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    I like the look of this Chucky fella, knows where the onion bag is, good goals with both feet and decent in the air.
    Can we get the ball to him in good areas and provide him with opportunities?
    Will the same opportunities avail themselves in the Premiership?
    We’ll see I suppose

  • 140 Average_Contents // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:06 PM

    Ciaran

    That’s kinda my point….we don’t have a system/style of play in order for them to fit in

  • 141 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    If whu can beat them surely we can? After all Hammers got turned over by both the NZ sides

  • 142 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:07 PM

    well said

    Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Rotonda,
    After the previous friendlies you were happy that the style of play looked improved.

    there you go rotonda drama queen as i said

  • 143 croftus5678 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    janmaat-colo-williamson-hairdryer is a defence capable of taking us into the prem imo after that with mbiwa/saylor then we struggle imo as we dont have enough quality for a 3rd choice.

    in mid colback and tiote will make it very solid and give us great set piece delivery with colback and these two although they are defensive are a must imo.

    sissoko/goofy are utility across that midfield and do a great job no matter where they are played they add creativity/defensive cover/speed and goals.

    then you have siem/perez/cisse/river/cabella as our main goal threats and creativity.(and maybe this new lad on loan)

    from the players in that list we have a great 1st team and plenty of options to change it around going forward but we do lack quality options at the back imo.

    elliott is getting stronger and is capable of filling in for krull imo.

  • 144 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    When is chucky going to sign

  • 145 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    To be fair, Rotonda is technically correct. This is the first time Ashley has released any signifcant money, wherever it came from, to sign players. Even if he is still in net profit, it is a smaller profit than usual. He will expect something.

  • 146 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    Celebrate yes, in the short term .

    14 defeats in 19 games last year and every other bad record Pardew has set at NUFC plus his behaviour I will never forgive or condone and I still think he is one of our worst managers ever .

    Take that 5th place finish away from him and his time here has been nothing short of abysmal . I still maintain the football in the 5th place finish season was poor (other than the games we played counter attacking 4-3-3) and Pardew got lucky .

    He had Ba who scored for fun in one half of the season and then Cisse took over in January . We would have been relegated the following season had it not been for Jose Bosingwa FFS .

  • 147 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    Average

    Well we are a club without a playing identity. Most clubs, successful ones anyway, have a certain way of playing. Southampton, Liverpool and Arsenal are all known for keeping the ball down on the deck and passing it around. Chelsea’s game is based on physical work rate all throughout the team, with high intensity pressing etc

    What is it that we’re known for? (Cue Pardew bashing! haha)

  • 148 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Never hated an NUFC manager as much as I hate Pardew . He is a horrible person as well as a shocking manager . The polar opposite to Sir Bobby .

    What we learned today is that Sissoko is no winger, Collo & Taylor are possibly our worst CB pairing and Colback is nothing more than squad filler .

    Team for City should be:

    —————————Krul——————————-

    –Janmaat——–Willo——–M’biwa——–Haidara–

    ———–Sissoko————————-Tiote————

    —HBA—————-De Jong—————-Cabella—

    —————————–?———————————

    Ideally I would like another CB to pair M’biwa, Quality striker and Grenier as well but I can’t see that happening in a million years under Ashley .

  • 149 bladeuser // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    I could,nt give a shit about pardew ashley the coaches and last but not least swansea

  • 150 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Here’s a question,

    If we go through this season playing terrible football and we narrowly escape relegation and finish 17th. Does anyone genuinely think Ashley would sack Pardew given how he has “backed him in the transfer market”? (For want of a better phrase)

  • 151 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Ciaran,
    Mbiwa is a tough one. He played full back more often than gets mentioned on here while at Montpellier. Mainly at left back, but had played right back before here. He looks like he will make rash decisions anywhere, so I think it is a case of sticking with him in one role and allowing him to learn and develop.

    Cabela and Cabaye are very different. Cabella will control games for us when we are on top and doing well, but Cabaye could (although didn’t do it often) dig in and carry us even on a bad day.

    I know very little of the Argentinian. He sounds promising. Riviere will end up fighting for that left wing role with Goofy as neither are good enough to play as a centre forward at this level.

    As for the future, who knows. The ‘blueprint’ for club development is fine in theory, but from the top down there isn’t a person there who can execute it correctly.

  • 152 Average_Contents // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:13 PM

    Ciaran

    Exactly

    I think we are known for not having a style at all mate its a joke

  • 153 Jail for Ashley // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    Ciaran,
    Welcome back, the blog has been a dreary place with out you, it’s about time we had some decent debate on here and I for one think it’s great that posters like you are about.

  • 154 Markaccus // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    Ciaran

    actually, i think he might do, this time. He will want top half and football to bring in punters. 17th and the following seasons even lower ST sales will start to kick him right in his wallet.

  • 155 geordie1892 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM

    Ciaran – No

    The old season for new players to get used to the prem excuse would be trotted out along with a season ticket price freeze and everything will be hunkey dorey

  • 156 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:15 PM

    Ciaran,
    I would be interested to see how the response differs from the other night, to your question of where people see us finishing. I’d say that we have dropped an average of 3/4 places based on a friendly result!

  • 157 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    I always thought Cabella was going to be a winger playing on the left for us?? He’s hardly a similar replacement for Cabaye.

    Also, has everyone seen Pardew’s comments about Ferreyra? Every single one he describes as a “big man” or “tall” or “6’2” – does anyone else see that as a bad sign?

  • 158 geordie1892 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    Maybe even a 15% off wonga loans for new season ticket holders.. Better not give him any ideas!

  • 159 Average_Contents // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    Ciaran

    I think fatty would be a bit disappointed about it but certainly wouldn’t sack his puppet over it as he’s achieved the only aim which is prem survival

  • 160 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    average, the new players such as perez cabella riv and colback have only been here a matter of weeks

    look wat happened in pardews first full season when cabeye and such came in

    my gripe is with people with polar bloody beliefs after every game espescially pre-season games

    fair enough vent your frustration but to change your mind after every game and then only blame 1 person is stupid imo

  • 161 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Ashley expects, because he always expects in everything he does. I’m of the opinion he’s expecting 30 millions worth more from Pardew this time round.
    As someone rightly stated, tis irrelevant where the cash came from, chunky will always be concerned about the spend, however much it is coz that’s the way he rolls.
    However, with the extra tv money slushing about somewhere in the coffers, it wouldn’t be that big a dent to pay Pardew and his staff off if chunky doesn’t get the required short term response

  • 162 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Well I won’t be judging this squad until the end of the season, you can’t go by today’s game, we didn’t have our 1st team out for a start, all of our key players didn’t play the full 90 minutes, if this game was a Europa league match that’s was half way through the season i think the players would have played a lot better.

  • 163 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    Lilongwe

    I must admit to thinking that M’biwa is solely a centre half. I’ve no faith in him as a full-back, and while he’s rash at centre half at times, I do think we need to give him a chance to build up a rapport with Colo and see how they play together for a sustained period of time. If he can’t cut it then we need to move him on. I still think we need to sign another top centre half as Saylor and Willo just aren’t good enough.

    I do realise that Cabella and Cabaye are very different players, so with that in mind, who is going to be the player who grabs the game by the scruff of the neck, come deep to get on the ball when we’re up against it? While Cabaye might not have done it enough, he was the only one I had faith in to do that.

    As for the club structure? It’s proven not to be effective in trying to implement any semblance of direction or ambition. The only planned policy is to use this club as a stepping stone and flog players for profit.

  • 164 Jail for Ashley // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    Ciaran,
    To answer your question, no I don’t think he would sack him because to finish seventeenth I think an important player would have been sold in January, Pardew is a mediocre manager in the mould of Pullis, Curbishley and BFS, he is not as sh1t as people make out and will see us around mid table for the remainder of his time here if Mashers doesn’t sh!t on him too much.

  • 165 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    manxpie

    For once i actually agree with you

  • 166 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    manxpie
    August 2, 2014
    average, the new players such as perez cabella riv and colback have only been here a matter of weeks

    look wat happened in pardews first full season when cabeye and such came in

    my gripe is with people with polar bloody beliefs after every game espescially pre-season games

    fair enough vent your frustration but to change your mind after every game and then only blame 1 person is stupid imo

    Totally agree

  • 167 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Jail

    You’re far too kind. I also think there are plenty regulars on here who would disagree with you, but I appreciate the comments all the same :)

    I personally don’t think Ashley would sack AP, as I genuinely believe the aim is PL survival. Although, given recent grumblings, I do think recent signings are an attempt to appease those who are thinking about chucking their STs.

    AP will only be sacked if he is a threat to Ashley’s investment. I personally think relegation is the only thing that will see him sacked.

  • 168 BuckLuck // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé@148

    Spot on mate!
    And I don’t mind losing games. It’s how we lose them that conerns me.

    One other thing;
    How much money we’ve spent is not that important. This summer the club has done a formidable job when you see our new batch of players and how little we’ve spent on them. I’m pretty sure all the other clubs had paid a lot more for the same players.
    Now let’s see how Pardew uses or misuses them. I’m hoping but not believing.

  • 169 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    lilo mbiwa’s best performance for us imo was at left back against arsenal in his 1st season here when we lost 1-0

    but he was solid and got forward

    people harp on about his partnership with willo being “brilliant” but then call willo championship standard!

    willo again was solid when he came on today

    willo has to start for me with either collo or mbwia

  • 170 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Are we at risk of thinking these signings are better than they are?

    Granted, Siem de Jong and Cabella come highly rated. Janmaat is also an international full back so those three players are of a relatively high standard.

    However, the other players, Perez, Riviere and Colback are either bog standard or young players with potential so we need to bear that in mind, do we not?

  • 171 toon22 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Dont know if i can stand another season of P45dues dire football.
    Imho we played better when he just arrived and since then its been all down hill,his infuence has actually made players worse.

    No plan a team of headless chickens,does he actually understand its better to blood younger players one at a time.So he chooses to play a few and then blame them for the result.

    Way to go.

  • 172 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:29 PM

    Ciaran,
    I’ll start with the last point. The club structure is wrong because from Ashley downwards we have the wrong people in key roles – or just insufficient people. We have, collectively, one of the lowest qualified coaching staffs in the Prem (it was the lowest when I researched it all last winter). We have a manager who isn’t up to it. An owner who is, at best,disinterested in the club. We have heads of academy who are unqualified for the role and the person in charge of the transition from youth to senior would have been sacked nearly a decade ago if it wasn’t for his club legend status. The blueprint that they talked of would be superb if executed well/properly/at all.

    I agree on Mbiwa, play him centre half this year, if he doesn’t cut it, move him on. In my eyes though that means 4 centre halves next summer. A tough ask.

    A player to grab the game by the scruff of the neck, I think the club see Colback as Cabaye’s replacement in that respect. Cabella replaces him creatively, De Jong replaces his goals. Not saying that I think tee have done right doing that, but I think tat is how it is..

  • 173 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    welsh i knew you would eventually :)

  • 174 toon22 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    When was the last time anyone watch a match and actually enjoyed it?
    When was the last time we played well?

    The last time i can rememmber seeing us play well as a team (tactically with great team play)
    was under SBR.

  • 175 toon kk // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    With Pardew as our manager and MA penny pinching on a top CF and CB, today could be a taste of things to come especially with a couple of injuries to senior players.

  • 176 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:35 PM

    bloody hell ruddys back!!!!!!!!!!

    hows it goin fella?

    i think we have baught very well obviously alot unproven in this league but all have strong potential and have done well at former clubs

    we just need to see over the next few months how they will gel

  • 177 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    toon22

    well I can give you 2 games from last season

    Beating both man utd and spurs away

  • 178 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    Lilongwe

    Well Ashley shows no desire in putting the right people in these key positions, so in that respect there really is no club structure, rather yes men who will take the flak for Ashley’s failings. There is no excuse for the incompetence which Ashley surrounds himself. We would have a well run club if he sourced better people for the job at hand, but having higher standard staff would cost him more money.

    I agree with your assessment on Cabaye’s replacement – shows how good he is when he needs replaced by 3 players!

  • 179 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Manx

    What a welcome back! haha

    I think we’ve bought shrewdly, with thrift in mind. I’m glad we replaced our quality players with seemingly quality replacements. However, I don’t think we’re much further forward in terms of the quality of our squad.

  • 180 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Manx,
    I agree, Mbiwa has looked very good for us at left back, certainly better defensively than Santon, Haidara and Dummet. I still don’t get why people think Willo was good last year. He was improved, and I think people make the mistake of thinking because he was better than expectations he was good. He was far from that.

    Still, he is a likeable bloke, so I am okay with him having his time in the sun. Don’t think he should be anywhere near our defence though if the club strengthened as it should. Sadly, we haven’t so far, and I think picking from the 4 at the minute is like choosing between 4 leaky buckets. They are all going to lose lots of water, we just have to select which one loses the least.

  • 181 kilcline // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    @Ciaran

    You are spot on, Colback is a decent utility player but will never control the game, i was very disappointed with him and Abeid. They got over run.

    Williamson must start in fornt of Taylor, i play a fairly decent standard, Taylor is awful with positioning and generla football brain.

  • 182 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    It could easily have been 6 in the first half. People saying it’s only pre-season seem to ignore the fact that this is how we were defending for most of the second half of last season. It was desperately worrying relegation form then. We have since lost Debuchy who was probably the best of a bad bunch.

    Oh but we won the second half. Pardew thinks he fixed it. Yeah, they took their foot of our necks and had a bit of a stroll.

  • 183 toon22 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    I would like to see AP sacked and replaced with

    Bernd Schuster

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Schuster

    He is out of contract,used to an owner just buying players with his time at RM.Was sacked by Be?ikta? for playing too attacking football.Even if he turns out to be a freak im sure i would prefer to find out rather than watch AP slither his way through another trudgid season.

  • 184 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    I’m concerned about wor scrambly bits. We didn’t execute them properly! Harrumph!

  • 185 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Routledge scores twice and Gomis scores again, FFS!

  • 186 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    Now that we’re playing real clubs we’re going to find out what kind of team we have this season. I think some are in for a bit of a negative surprise. We haven’t improved a poor central defense at all and we’re thin to say the least up front.

  • 187 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:42 PM

    Longwe

    Who is the head of the academy you’re saying is unqualified the role?

  • 188 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    Ciaran,
    I agree. There was still the odd person, including par dew saying Mike isn’t a football man. Sorry, but if I was running something for 7 years I would learn the business. At the very least contract out the recruitment to those who know how to recruit within the industry. Absolutely no excuse whatsoever. I’m not sure it is the money here, as hang better quality staff in certain roles would allow for increased income when selling pliers. I think because he is a bit of a tw@ when it comes to business he is scared someone will be a tw@ to him so he only employs people he trusts.

    Anyway, got to run.

  • 189 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    Uncertain Toon

    Don’t talk about swans on here this is a nufc blog

  • 190 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    Blackley,
    Watson and Richardson.

  • 191 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:44 PM

    You don’t see me mentioning them on here

  • 192 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    I think Pards should go on holiday for the rest of his life and leave football to more capable people. Please take Mike with you as well Alan.

  • 193 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    The majority of Ex toon or very nearly toon players seem to do ok elsewhere, mmmm!

  • 194 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Lilongwe

    Never heard of them. I though you were talking about Joe Joyce.

  • 195 Pottsclock // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    In most cases, when a centre back is no good as a full back it is because of physical characteristics. For example – they are not fast enough or they are too big and are easily turned by a winger. Or maybe they can’t cross a ball and are useless when required to push forward. (e.g. STaylor)
    With Mbiwa this is not the case. His failings as a fullback are all things that are still required of a good centre back. His positional play is poor. He does not read the game well. He doesn’t push attackers to the outside. In addition, he does not have the physical attributes required of a PL CB – height, strength.

    He may have been a good CB in the French league…but I just cannot see him succeeding in the PL. It’s a shame and he may well improve but he still will not be good enough.

  • 196 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    We were playing some very poor football under Gullit too. Worse under this puppet.

    “He leaves the club second from bottom of the Premiership with just one point from a possible 15. ” (when Gullit left)

    Sir Bobby, a capable manager, comes in and transforms our fortunes and gets us playing some great football. Instantly, and it continued.

    I hate Pardew way more than Fat Sam and Dalglish and that is saying something.

    This player or that player, it doesn’t matter when you have a career long inept manager in charge.

    Yeah, I’m complaining about it… Good. More shouldn’t allow these snakes to squirm free and cause more misery.

    I hope he’s hounded out this year as he was at some of his other other clubs with fan protests and he can take his blagging style management with him.

    And yes, you shouldn’t take pre-season too seriously. Which is why I’m going on our last competitive games and his dire career record.

  • 197 kilcline // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    We need Micah Richards.

  • 198 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    A lot of you have been saying I haven’t been giving out advice on manliness lately. Good point lads. This is where I currently stand on manliness. You’ve got to stride, strut and flare lads. Stride into the room with your chest hair rampant, strut over to the nearest lass and then flare your nostrils at her and demand that she buy you a pint. Beautiful.

  • 199 gazzaforever // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    HBA loves Beardsley , I wish he was the first team coach…

  • 200 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Not a fan but hats off great goal Obertan

    Pre season, disappointing result but means nout still hopeful for the season

  • 201 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    The latest waffle from Pards:
    “If I’m honest we were poor with our scrambly bits. Our players looked tired. I take full responsibility for the lack of dancing poodles for the half time entertainment. We’ve got to get better. I’ve got to get better. I need a bigger notebook and my pencil wasn’t very sharp. Got to run off now lads and massage my nipples.”

  • 202 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    ruddy aye but at the end of the day we’ve replaced players that didn’t want to be here

    i still think cabeye is absolutly kicking himself tho i mean he came here to hopefully move to arsenal then gets his mate here in debuchy who then moves to arsenal!

    he probably would be there now if he stayed till the summer

    but the players that have come in look very hungry to perform for us which is only a good thing

    lilo
    i’d love an upgrade on willo but the same people who big up mbwia slate willo who hasn’t made a 10th of the mistakes mbwia’s made which was my point

    willo atm is our most consistant CB and by no means in any way “championship standard” (really annoying saying like!!)

    he’s performed well in the job he’s capable of doing he headers and is always vocal plus knows when to take one for the team

    mbwia has been the polar opposite imo at CB

  • 203 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    Does anyone really understand Pard’s statements? I mean surely you massage your nipples and sharpen your pencil before the game? :shock:

  • 204 Belfast // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    We were absolutely shite and the picture on that quest tv was absolutely shite.

    A shite day all round

  • 205 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    Manx

    I strongly disagree that Cabaye is kicking himself over a move to PSG. He has another Ligue 1 winners medal and will be playing CL football next season. I reckon he’s pretty chuffed with himself.

    I don’t think he bases his potential transfers on whether he will be playing with Debuchy.

    We’ve got to look at the reason why these players don’t want to be here. We’re not a big club any more so what are we offering them? They can get league titles, trophies, CL football, higher wages and I’m sorry to say it, but much better atmospheres than SJP – it’s a library these days.

    Why would these quality players want to stay? Why did they stay when we had Keegan? Why did a lot of them stay when we had Bobby? Because we were going for something, we were trying to succeed. Now we’re not even pretending to try.

  • 206 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    laurent so is that your last statement about pardew then?

    are you gonna contribute about the team and everything else in the club?

    or are ya gonna still after just stating for the millionth time bring things back to pardew?

  • 207 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:05 PM

    G2

    where u been hiding

  • 208 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    A lot of you are saying Pardew is wor future. That life is good in the middle. That wor scrambly bits will come around in the end. That Benny is getting moobs. But what about the more important issues of the day? Has beermonkey changed his underpants since the New Zealand trip? Will the Governor General’s wife ever be the same? Why was beermonkey transported to the airport under armed guard? We need the answers lads!!!

  • 209 Belfast // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    G2 got told off by expat.

    He’s been on the naughty step.

    Harummph.

  • 210 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Shhhhh beermonkey. I’m laying low mate. There are people after me. It’s an evil plot. I know too much.

  • 211 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    ruddy he will be kicking himself no doubt

    he’s playing in a league that is nowhere near the prem on global audience and his best mate who he helped getting here is and is still playing in the champions league

    he will be jealous as fusk lol

    and on the players not wanting to be here that is where we are at the mo but lets face it its been a long time since we used to pay for top players and then payed the 100,000 pound a week them top players want

    it is wat it is at the mo but the new player which we aint had in a while give me some excitement and wats wrong with having some optimism :)

  • 212 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM

    did cabella pick up an injury today
    I fell asleep after the first goal went in it could have been 3 by then when I scanned some comments a couple said he came off injured

    is this right

  • 213 Belfast // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Manxy he’ll be playing champions league football next season and fighting for cups and league championships.

    I find it hard to believe that he’s kicking himself to be honest.

  • 214 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Our guvnor thinks he’s got it all sussed. Buy young, cheap players and hope to God that Pardew doesn’t destroy them before selling them for a huge profit. Keep our football tactics in the 90’s so that modern clubs won’t remember how to play that type of football. Make sure you hire a manager that knows how to beat the attacking flair out of players. Hire an idiot as DoF then let him sit and do nothing for 2 windows. Beautiful.

  • 215 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    Manx, do you mean keep addressing the broader picture? Yeah, I might if I feel like it. It is a blog for opinions. You have yours and I have mine.

    You can concern yourself with the branches. I’ll keep chopping at the root.

  • 216 kilcline // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    @Belfast

    We have been sh1te for ages mate, we have zero direction and tactics. I fear we have some good players now but wont function efficiently as we should. We won’t boss games with our midfield.

    We have two great overlapping full backs, we won’t use them this season they will be told to defend
    We have a top 4 player in Ben Arfa but he wont play again.
    Unless the new guy can hold the ball up, we have no presence up front and we wont play the football for our small quickish strikers.

  • 217 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    Manx

    What’s wrong? Because it will be short lived in my humble opinion. Even if we do well this season we won’t build upon it, we’ve no intention to. When the time comes, and a willing buyer comes in, these new players who have you so excited will be sold for a handsome profit, and the process will begin all over again.

    May be a cynical way of looking at things, but that is how I feel about it all.

  • 218 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:21 PM

    I’m starting to lose patience with wor Alan again. Where were the Belgian midget strikers in the second half? Did anyone from the club invite me to watch the match and make important comments? Unbelievable. Harrumph!

  • 219 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    You’re beaufiful when you’re cynical Ciaran. Don’t let anyone tell you different mate. Now flare those nostrils with pride! Huzzah!!!!

  • 220 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    belfast remember his little hissy fit?

    that was because of the arsenal bid
    and then remember he was a sub on quite a few occasions wen he did move
    and then remember he’s in a shitter league
    and then remember his best mate is playing for the team he wanted to move to
    plus he will be replaced next season with the next big thing that money can buy
    i’d say he will be kicking himself tbh

  • 221 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Am I missing something? All clubs sell players and guess what sometimes they make a profit. Liverpool sold Suarez for stupid money and bought new players. Newcastle are not unique in selling players.

  • 222 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    So even if we’d had dancing poodles at the half you would have missed them then beermonkey? What’s this falling asleep business during a crucial pre-season match? Harrumph!

  • 223 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    G2

    Cheers buddy ;)

    Manx

    Where is it said that he wanted to move to Arsenal? Would quality players rather play for a mid-table team in the PL or a top side in Ligue 1? Would he prefer to be guaranteed a starting spot in Newcastle or challenge himself at PSG?

    I really doubt he’s kicking himself.

  • 224 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Unbelievable. Lack of focus from the supporters. Poor scrambly bits. Inappropriate nipple massage timing. Shape up lads!

  • 225 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    ruddy well tbh i don’t look at it that way i look forward to a new season not wondering wat will happen after but thats probably where we have differed all along lol

  • 226 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Tequila

    Liverpool sold Suarez, granted. They bought him for 23 million and sold him for 75 million, a handsome profit indeed.

    However, last season they were faced with a 50 million bid from Arsenal.

    In the same situation, Ashley would have bitten Arsenal’s hands off for the 50 million, instead, Liverpool offered him a new contract, which he accepted and then went on to spear head a title challenge for Liverpool, bringing them into the Champions League for the first time in years, thus opening the door to a new standard of players, and increasing income due to CL revenue.

    Ashley wants profit, he does not see the benefit of keeping a player and trying to actually succeed on the field.

    Comparing Newcastle and Liverpool is comparing apples and oranges pal.

  • 227 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    Manx

    So you forget what has gone before and go into the new season completely ignoring how we have conducted ourselves in the past? Ignoring the fact that we are quite clearly a conveyor belt club? Ignoring the fact that we have no interest in the cups?

    I wish I could do that.

  • 228 Belfast // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    Agree with that Kilcline.

    Are you still hanging around with Burnsie by the way ?
    U.f.o spotting ?

  • 229 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    ruddy if arsenal or man u matched psg’s bid who do you think he would have chosen?

    he spat his dummy out after the arsenal bid which meant he wanted to move there

  • 230 GeordieTwo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Or it’s like comparing a sickly Tsunki budgie to one of my massive well groomed brutes Ciaran mate. There’s just no comparison. Think of us a a malnourished budgie of a club lads.

  • 231 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:34 PM

    Manx

    Engaging in hypothetical scenarios now which is rather pointless. I don’t know where he would have moved to, and while you think you have a good idea, you don’t know where he would have gone either.

  • 232 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    G2

    I’ve heard many analogies of what we are as a club, but malnourished budgie is the one which encapsulates exactly where we are at.

  • 233 Ethiotoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:35 PM

    . Krul
    Jan mbiwa coloccini. Haidara
    siso. Tiote Anita. Cabella
    Some dj
    Reviere

  • 234 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM

    ruddy but if you believe we have no interest in the cups you also have to believe we will only sign 2 player per year well that has been broken so why not the other?

  • 235 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Did we not reject Arsenals 10 mill offer for Cabaye and then sell him for twice the amount to PSG?

  • 236 Fridge // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Mr Ashley. When the players play better, their value increase! Isnt it time for a new manager so we can play better football, and make more on the players we sell on?

  • 237 Belfast // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Tsunki keeps malnourished budgies ?

    Always new he was a wrong un

  • 238 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Manx

    If we only signed 2 players, relegation would have genuinely loomed.

    Also, I’d be more inclined to be excited if we actually spent money as opposed to just replacing outgoing players.

    Even if they did sign a couple more players, I’m still going to expect them to flog them in a couple of years to keep their policy of being a conveyor belt club. I’ve gotten to the stage that I won’t trust the club until Ashley is gone.

  • 239 canuckmag // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    I visit the site most days and enjoy reading the comments, but after today I am compelled to comment. I am astounded that anyone watching this game and most of the games of the last 4 years can’t see that regardless of personnel we have no pattern of play, no system and look like 11 individuals.
    The gaps between attack, midfield and defence are like a kids sandpit to opposing teams, they can play in there without any harm. Our closing down is non existent because the space that creates for the opposition makes it impossible to pressure the ball. Our centre halfs whoever we play there look lost. They get easily drawn out of position to try and pressure the ball in the gaps and this opens up a holes in our defence, then we are in panic mode. We have no leaders on the pitch at all. Pardew does not trust the players or his system and today’s game really showed that because he was constantly on the sideline shouting out basic instructions to all of the players. I have played non league football in a team playing like this with a similar type of manager and all of us hated it. I am sorry to say that there are two things in work or team sport that you can do and that is change the people or change the people, we have tried everything and now it is time to change out the Coaching staff to effect a change in the mentality of the playing staff. Pardew and his staff have to go. I am sure we have a potentially good team in this set of players.

  • 240 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    ruddy well lets see by the end of this season then!

    lets see how cabeye does since he wasn’t even 1st choice in a shitter league after spending 20 mill on him

    but i will say now he’ll be looking for a new club next season
    and he didn’t move from a ligue 1 winning club to move back to a ligue 1 winning club with stupid ammount of millions that doesn’t not make sense imo

  • 241 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    Tequila

    MA is a w****er but he’s not an idiot. 10 million for a top class midfielder is insulting. If you want to be literal about “profit” then go right ahead. My point is that every single one of our players has a price and when that price is met they are flogged.

    Liverpool were never going to be able to resist an offer of 75 million quid from Barcelona for a number of reasons
    a) It’s a ridiculous amount of money
    b) Suarez really wanted to go to Barcelona
    c) Suarez’s conduct in the World Cup put pressure on Liverpool to sell and the time was right to do so.

    The reasons we sell our better players is because we have no intention to match their ambitions of challenging for silverware and getting into CL football. Completely different stratosphere mate.

  • 242 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Ciaran, I agree every player has his price, but like I say that is no different from any other club. Players come and go.
    Cabaye wanted to go as did Debuchy. same as Suarez. When that happens let them go and move on.

  • 243 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Manx

    Cabaye isn’t a Newcastle United player any more. Even if you’re right and he moved to PSG, a club that you think he didn’t even want to play for, does that not make it even worse from a Newcastle United point of view?

    He was so desperate to get out of this rudderless, ambition-less club that he was willing to sign for a team he didn’t want to?

    I disagree that he didn’t want to go to PSG, but I’m simply following your train of thought.

  • 244 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    As I said earlier, I want a reporter to ask Pardew

    “What are you actually trying to get that team to do?”

    Because I can’t see it.

  • 245 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Tequila

    My point is that we sign players, not for the purpose of elevating ourselves to the next level – which is what Suarez was signed to do for Liverpool, something he achieved, but in order to showcase them in the PL and then flog to better teams at a profit.

    Some people are happy with that system, but to me that is just perpetuating mid-table mediocrity and showing no ambition to be better than where we currently are.

  • 246 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    gonufc

    they wont do that they will get banned

  • 247 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    ruddy well wat do you actually get from the sport of football then?

    supporting a team is enjoying wins and everything else

    but you obviously can’t because your looking years down the line?

    i can’t understand that tbh

    its kind of not enjoying life because you die at the end of it! lol

  • 248 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    Ciaran, it rather depends on how well the money is spent. Selling Carrol allowed us to buy the likes of Debuchy and Cabaye and Cisse which improved the team. Selling Cabae and Debuchy has allowed us tio buy Cabella DeJong et al which should improve us again. Till the season starts nobody can say we are not better places for a higher finish.

  • 249 Ethiotoon // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    canuckmag
    You may be right,but u can’t blame the mgr now bcoz it’s just warm up game.
    Let the EPL begin,and see things around
    then u/all judge …

  • 250 check the toastie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    It seems people don’t ever get the fact that one person and one person only is holding the club back.

    PARDEW OUT.

  • 251 check the toastie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    SACK THE MORON

  • 252 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    I know. It’s pathetic how few tactical/ footballing questions get asked. It’s always “how pleased were you with….” etc.

    I want “Your team doesn’t seem to do any pressing, was that your command?”

  • 253 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Manx

    I’m not convinced that Newcastle United actually want to compete to win silverware, or want to compete to push higher up the league. Where I can’t trust the club to compete, I don’t get anything from supporting them.

    If the club was shit, but I saw a commitment to try and be better, then I’d be right behind them, just like I was for years. I won’t lend my support to a team who don’t want to compete and pro-actively try to do the bare minimum.

  • 254 duzo // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Hey guys,

    I just joined this site, and I am a newcastle fan from abroad.
    When reading through all the comments, man I gotta to say you guys are passionate fans but seriously have no patience. The club just went through a great summer of buying proper players with potential and are rebuilding. Sure they do need a defender and minor adjustments here and there. but you have to give AP a chance with this new squad. Pre season games are for experimenting, getting the team fit and ready for the real season, final score doesnt matter. AP doesnt have the greatest rep due to history, but he is a decent manager that can have success. Judge him after 15 -20 games. I think he can get this team working properly and challenging for 5 – 8th place. If he doesnt, then he def needs to go and Newcastle should get a big name manager.

  • 255 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    LR32

    I’m with you. Pardew is the problem. You can’t say it often enough.

  • 256 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Tequila- Spot on. They got £75 million for him.

    Arsenal activated a release clause in Luis Suarez’s contract when they made a £40m plus a pound offer for him. They thought they had activated a clause that would allow them to negotiate a move for Suarez, who was pushing for a move away from the club after they failed to secure European football at the end of the season.
    Henry said at the time “But what we’ve found over the years is that contracts don’t seem to mean a lot in England – actually not in England, in world football. It doesn’t matter how long a player’s contract is, he can decide when he wants to leave”

    It’s a fact of football life.

  • 257 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Tequila

    This is where we disagree. Janamaat is not better than Debuchy in my opinion. Nor is Cabella/SDJ better than Cabaye. None of our strikers are better than Remy (they may be who knows).

    You have confidence in our new signings whereas I’m more sceptical.

  • 258 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    I never got the praise for Debuchy, for all his runs down the flank how often did anything come from them and he was as bad as Santon for leaving gaps at the back. The jury is out on the new signings but that is the point I was making. Till we actually see how they perform at PL level we cannot say they are not looking to improve the team.

  • 259 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    gonufc

    I am sure they want to ask
    iam sure most asked question would be wtf was your plan this week cos we couldn’t see it and the players couldn’t seem to work it out

  • 260 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Canuck, good post. Welcome to the comments section.

  • 261 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    @Ciaran- That’s exactly it. The aim is to get out of cups (they tire players) and then get a mid table position- enough not to embarrass (as 17th would) but still enough to get 1.lots of TV money in and 2. (most importantly) HUGE amounts of global exposure for Sports Direct.

    That is the clubs pathos now. It is the only point of its being. We exist as a method of getting his company exposure. That really is it.

    Winning stuff costs more money than it is worth compared to the added exposure.

  • 262 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Debuchy consistently was an attacking threat, sometimes a little more suspect defensively, but you could level that same criticism at Dani Alves, doesn’t necessarily make you a bad player. Santon is simply a sub-standard defender entirely, whereas Debuchy could defend to a point and will show that class at Arsenal this season.

    Well I don’t think it needs explaining that Cabella and Siem de Jong are not as good as Cabaye and won’t have the same impact on the side as he did. He was the heartbeat of our team and these two, while good players, are not as good.

  • 263 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    goNUFC

    Yeah I completely agree with you last comment there.

  • 264 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    ruddy my cabeye comment was just in jest really not an important point for nufc

    but i guarrentee there is a problem in the whole love in in the cabeye , debuchy relationship

    debuchy is playing in the better league and champions league
    cabeye is playing in (sometimes) the shitter league and champions league (sometimes)

    he will be jealous no doubt as i say obviously better payed than us but so would arsenal or man u and he would have picked them over psg

  • 265 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    I will reserve judgment on the quality of our new signings until they have played a while in the PL. Cabaye settled quickly but it took Debuchy some months with many on here saying for months that he was no better than Simpson.
    I think it’s ludicrous to take a view at this juncture of either the actual composition of our starting side or the quality of acquisition. Let’s not forget that we have already encountered a trip to NZ. Players will still be in recovery mode at this time of the season whilst training. The emphasis is on fitness and next week turning to shaping a prospective starting side. Based on today I still see 2 players including a CB coming in.

  • 266 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    I just want to go on record that I think it’s ludicrous to create multiple accounts just to agree with yourself. Just thought I’d put it out there.

  • 267 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    Cabaye was a good player but hardly irreplaceable. He had plenty of poor games for us. De Jong is his replacement and we know he has a good reputation and in the small amount of time we have seen him playing for us he looked good.
    As long as Janmaat actually knows how to defend I will take him over Debuchy any day

  • 268 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    Blackley, I hope your vocals to Pardull get there safe and sound during the games next season in the Milburn.

    As people are well aware, I’ve had enough of him after the Reading game (and it was already frustrating ’til then) and I haven’t changed my stance. I didn’t even want him in the first place, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt to start with. No longer since that game.

    Siem, Cabella and Janmaat are players I like as new signings, but only if they are used to their capability. That isn’t under this clown.

    As I mentioned with Sir Bobby coming in, a similar transformation with the same players could occur with a capable manager for us.

    However, more signings of Cabella/Siem quality are needed.

  • 269 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    are you saying goNUFC is really you Cuaran?

  • 270 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM

    Tequila

    Arguably Simpson was as good a defender as Debuchy, just offered nothing going forward. Cabaye was more than a good player, he was (and is) an excellent player and frankly I’d be amazed if de Jong comes anywhere close to his standard.

  • 271 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Tequila

    Nope, I’m not.

  • 272 The next Mike Williamson // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    So Pardew doesn’t criticise his senior players for losing 9 out of 10 or whatever it was, but he lays the boot into his young strikers after a friendly in which his old defenders cost him the game. sounds exactly like what he did after that 2nd brighton game.

    what a slimy two faced cretin. also he calls ben arfa unprofessional and goes about headbutting people. he’ll not last long. one more derby humiliation at the hands of the superior poyet and that’s him done. hopefully we’ll get rosler.

  • 273 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    Janmaat looked sound both defensively and offensively in the WC. He’s 5 years younger than Debuchy as well.

  • 274 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    laurent so is that your last statement about pardew then?

    are you gonna contribute about the team and everything else in the club?

    or are ya gonna still after just stating for the millionth time bring things back to pardew?

  • 275 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    Cabaye was a different type of midfielder. He could do a bit of everything. His range of passing was exceptional.

  • 276 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    Debuchy looked excellent for France during the World Cup, and Sissoko also looked like an actual footballer while playing for France.

    A players performance for a better side, may not actually translate to their performances at Newcastle.

  • 277 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:18 PM

    Ciaran

    sdj and cabella are different players and I don’t see how we can compare them to cabs, for me cabs a great all round midfield better in attack but good defensively as well, you wont get that side out of sdj and cabella

  • 278 tequilamag // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    Ciaran, I just find it odd everyone seems towant the fullbacks going on Kamikaze runs all day then they wonder we ship a load of goals. I want my full backs to be good defenders first and foremost.

  • 279 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    Sissoko was poor today largely because there was little passing content between him and Yanga. Janmaat will time his runs better and I can see that being highly productive.

  • 280 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    laurent how can you possibly give the benefit of doubt if players haven’t even played for us?

    again someones hate for the manager dismisses any point you make

  • 281 Ian Toon // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM

    Nobody has mentioned that we will have a lot more pace throughout the side.

  • 282 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    Manx, benefit of the doubt initially to see if he could actually get the team playing football to an acceptable standard. Bearing in mind he’d been sacked at numerous of his recent clubs following fan demonstrations against him and was out of work with no takers.

    On the whole we’ve played very poor, ugly and even abysmal football regularly. You may think that’s acceptable, Manx. I don’t.

    Nobody I know wants him to stay even a game more.

    Pardew out.

  • 283 Pottsclock // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    Apart from the watching the Toon as much as possible this year, I’m interested in seeing how some of our former players do at other PL teams.
    Specifically our old RBs Debuchy and Simpson. I think we really are going to find out how good Debuchy is and how bad Simpson was. Simpson was appallingly slated on here but was actually OK – I think he’ll be solid for QPR.

  • 284 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Manx, Pardew out.

  • 285 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    One or two on here clearly lack knowledge of football. Sometimes it is hard to establish this when there is genuine lack of clarity about someones abilities – however when folk come out and say things like Obertan is decent or that Willo is not a Championship standard but PL standard -then to me it is then suqsequently clear they know sweet FA about football. To these persons please change your game now to something appropriate – likes ladies wrestling. I’ve taken the liberty to get a link for a ladies wrestling forum -so you get of this blog quicker.
    http://www.wrestlingforum.com/women-wrestling/

    (please note there are no naughty photos on the ladies wrestling forum -so any snifters deciding to check it out for a thrill -don’t bother). Be gone you tools.

  • 286 ToonFromLeeds // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    If that game tells us owt it’s that we need a couple of decent centre backs and a forward

  • 287 ToonFromLeeds // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    And Pardew needs sacking and a properly decent manager brought in

  • 288 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    i think obertan is quality and also Williamson is pl standard and not championship

  • 289 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM

    And also get pardew to sign a new six year contract, everyone’s a winner

    Happy days

  • 290 swisstone // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    My worry is the spine of the team is simply not strong enough. We are really exposed at CB, Collo will not get any better and i fear could wane badly this yr, pace has never been great. Centre mid we are ok but we dont have that player that will drive the game, a Cabaye if u like. CF we know our weakness there. We’ve strengthened the squad but our core remains weak and it could be badly exposed. My prediction is we will concede more goals than we score nxt season on that basis.

  • 291 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 2, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Hang on Ciaran, that made it sound like I’m actually you?

    ….eh?

  • 292 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:00 PM

    I see Ciaran (Ruddy) is back with his “multiple accounts” paranoia. Didn’t take long.

  • 293 ToonFromLeeds // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    If we play like this against scum city we’ll get annihilated

  • 294 Jeff from Benwell // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    People on here would be a lot happier if they realized that while Mike Ashley owns NUFC ,Alan Pardew is fireproof.
    In all his endeavours MA uses people he knows and trusts

    They only time he didn’t do that and took Denis Wise advice and appointed Kevin Keegan he got shat on.

    For example the idea he would employ someone like Bernd Schuster or anyone he doesn’t know well is frankly laughable

  • 295 deeps // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    Man Shitty not doing too well either..Drew 2-2 with Olympiakos..some of their first team players(Kompany,Aguero,Zabaleta,Negredo and Fernandinho) are still out on vacation and will miss the game against against us..so this is probably our best chance to beat City..

  • 296 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    Tuff

    I’m reluctant to write off any player under Pardew’s mismanagement. Just ask the two rookies up front whether Pardew did them any favours by playing them alongside another rookie. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pardew writes them off for 12 months or more.

    Pardew thinks the squad’s good enough for top 8. The defence was shocking last season, and he’s clearly done nothing to improve it. He doesn’t even see it as a problem.

  • 297 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    welsh I think there Swansea standard lol :)

  • 298 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:18 PM

    Jeff

    I don’t believe Mikey will put up with Pardew’s incompetence much longer. Yeah, he bets on losing streaks hoping to win his money back and it won’t be the first time he’s had his fingers burnt. But he’ll lose patience soon enough. That said, I was saying the same 18 months ago.

  • 299 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Blackley – I suspect you might be right in Percy not seeing that we have defensive problems – we have for 2 years. Percy will never drop Colo -so I fancy us to continue to have a shaky defence -Willo and Saylor are equally as poor.
    You may also be right in suggesting we will not see much more of the youngsters. Probalbly will in cup games -just like last season.

  • 300 check the toastie // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    MORONIC FOOL PARDEW MUST GO!!!!!!!!

    HES A CLOWN

  • 301 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:37 PM

    Here’s something things which I want to see in a team:

    * Notable progression to improve faults at all times. All kinds.(Communication/attack/defence/strategy, chance creation, inter-linking etc.)

    * Team being positive and attacking in EVERY game through confidence and belief in what they CAN do, not the fear of what the other team may do. This comes through successful practice and organisation, and repetition in training

    * Excellent movement of players around the pitch – which has been drilled into them in training through direct interaction and goal planning. No player on the pitch should be wondering what happens next. It should all be calculated and practiced whilst still leaving room for flexibility and situational flair. This means quicker passing moves can be achieved because there is a directional flow already worked out amongst the players.

    * Careful investment into quality players without drastically overpaying or Ashley’s usual low-balling.

    * Getting the right amount of quality players in which are required to strengthen and cover injuries – we are still short.

    * Honest assessments of team performance without excuses or blame deflection.

    *Playing players in their correct positions. Every player should be utilised for their maximal strength in their best position.

    * I want players enjoying their football, enjoying going to training and enjoying their attempt at developing beautiful patterns of play. Work-rate will increase if players believe a certain style of play. Football should be fun.

    Pardew does not tick any of those management boxes for me. In fact, he’s the opposite.

    I can’t be a neggar when all that I ask for is positive, can I?

  • 302 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Get rid of pardew and then we can bring in sombody who’s ten times worse, yeah good thinking rodders.

    Dear me

  • 303 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:42 PM

    Man city lost on penalties they should get rid of the manager, and they conceded 2 goals. Poor defending sack them.

    Oh wait a minute i forgot it’s only a friendly

  • 304 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    Man utd conceded a goal oh my god they are going to be in trouble this season,

  • 305 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    welsh

    ur in a fine sarcastic mood wots up

  • 306 canuckmag // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    If we are stuck with Pardew then I think one signing could help the team and that is a pacy CB that can deal with a ball over the top. I think that our CBs are either slow (Colo, Williamson and Taylor) or struggle to deal with the ball over the top like we have seen with Yanga. This forces them to play deeper and that leaves bigger spaces. If you watch Real Madrid, they suffer from that a bit also, just that they have awesome firepower that helps them get away with it. One signing, come on Mike do it.

  • 307 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:48 PM

    beermonkey

    Me sarcastic never

    I’m getting a bit pissed of people on here being negative on here all the time, yes we wasn’t good today but that happens to every club in the world.

  • 308 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    Right I’ve finished with my rant, I’m just waiting for the match tommorow.

    Come on nufc win tomorrow ffs

  • 309 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    welsh

    mate ignore it I have read most of it and ignored most of it funny how the worse negative comments come from people not been seen on here in a long time we lose 3 1 and they return

    tbh I fell sleep after the first goal but you could see how it was going
    the whole thing today was a bummer cos I was looking forward to seeing a few of the new guys
    but a good core of the team jalmaat sissoko tiote cabella krul only joined up with the team on Monday

    I am sure it was the same for Malaga I think what it shows us is players like abied if he is going to stay needs to goto the championship onloan and same for a few others

    I wont bother picking on the def canuck comment above is pretty spot on with the new 4231 formation we need to push up higher but were to slow at the back hence we tend to sit back and it all goes tits up from there
    not sure we will get a cb in though not 1 that can come in and do a job

  • 310 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    Tomorrow

  • 311 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    See i don’t normally swear but some people on here anyway cheers beermonkey

  • 312 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:01 PM

    laurent how old are you?

    because you’ve been supporting the wrong team all your life then! :)

  • 313 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    What’s the latest news with chucky, have we agreed a fee.

  • 314 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:03 PM

    how did west ham get on in the end

  • 315 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    West Ham won on penalties

  • 316 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    welsh

    I thought loan fee and buy price had been sorted
    it was all about confirmation but as were away I would think we will announce when the team get back
    he also has to have a medical and all of that I think the intial deal happened pretty quick just goto wait for the rest to catch up

  • 317 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Manx, I’m older than I was yesterday. True story.

  • 318 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    who played for Celtic today Jesus

    Celtic 1 Spurs 6

  • 319 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    well 1 year older 1 rear stupider hey laurent?

  • 320 deeps // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    West Ham were quite lucky..Schalke hit the post twice during normal time :/

  • 321 manxpie // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:13 PM

    welsh pardew said probably another player so
    sounds likely

  • 322 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    Manx, I don’t know. Are you?

  • 323 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    Looking at liverpools line up tonight i think we can match them this season, like us they have signed players who have no experience playing over here.

  • 324 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM

    welsh

    fool have spent over 100mill so far aint they

  • 325 jimmysmith // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:23 PM

    He’s got two games in two days and Siem De Jong and Cisse are injured, so he decides to take the risk of starting the two young lads rather than pair them later which he’d likely have to otherwise, when you’re assuming he’s hoping to use what is more like his 1st choice. Fair enough Pards, carry on.

  • 326 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    beermonkey

    Yeah I think so, i like the look of our signings than theirs.

  • 327 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:30 PM

    Lallana signing could go either way, very good or could be another Charlie Adam, their still need to strengthen their defence they need more than that Southampton player their signed.

  • 328 beermonkey // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    welsh

    I would worry it might turn into a spurs situation
    but rogers is a man I think that can pull it off

    I like all our signings and I think most do hence the negativity we all got swept along a bit from cloud 9 to the ground in 45 mins

    for me dejong will be the one

  • 329 welshgeordie9 // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:35 PM

    Anyway got to go, hopefully we will have happy fans on here tomorrow talking about our final game in Germany until then good night gents.

  • 330 Sliema // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Welsh

    We’ll not get within 20 points of Liverpool this season. They have a way better squad.

  • 331 catchy in norway // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    i think a lot of you miss the whole point of this pre season,

    this is it for pardew , he has to get it right from the get go , that includes a good preseason , he needs things to go right for him to get both the fans and the players behind him.

    today he said said he took the blame, but he didn’t , he pointed to an area of the pitch that was a new crew and said it was them , the fact is he lied, the problem was the defence, his baby , the bit he works with the most , that went wrong, not the experimental forward line.

    he needs this team to go into the start of the new season high on confidence from winning games comfortably, going out to beat any team in front of him , to show he means business,

    this crap is just an extension of previous seasons blunders , with him spouting what he thinks weak minded blind followers want to hear,

    what IS going to happen is

    we will loose a few games at the start of the season

    he will say the players need time to adjust which is a luxury he don’t have based on his last 2 seasons

    he will lose the few fans he has apart from manx and a couple of others super pardew fans on here,

    then the players WILL STOP PLAYING for him,

    time is not on his side :)

    thank god

  • 332 Sliema // Aug 2, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    Anyone else watching the game?




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