Ben Arfa May Help Newcastle Get Lyon Target


It may go down to the wire for Newcastle,  as to whether we can get either Alexandre Lacazette or Clement Grenier in from Lyon, but maybe Ben Arfa’s potential move back to Lyon could help that effort.

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Ben Arfa – could move to Lyon

Ben Arfa joined Lyon in 2002 after he graduated from the French Academy at Clairfontaine, and he was at Lyon for six years until he joined Marseilles in 2008.

And Lyon President Jean Michel Aulas has admitted today that he would be interested in bringing Ben Arfa back to the club.

This is what he had to say to RMC:

“Ben Arfa to make a return? If he is willing to make the necessary financial effort, why not?”

We’re sure that Lee Charnley and our recruitment team will be using this angle in trying to get either Clement Grenier or Alexandre Lacazette to Newcastle before the end of the transfer window – or maybe even both.

It’s along shot but possible.

Newcastle are on a roll at the moment in the transfer market, after getting Argentine striker Facundo Ferreyra in on a season long loan yesterday for £1.6M.

And as long as 20 year-old Nottingham Forest players Jamaal Lascelles and Karl Darlow pass their medicals at Newcastle, they will become Newcastle players – probably tomorrow.

Both were at Newcastle on Monday taking their medicals, and it looks like it will cost Newcastle £7M in total for the young players, who will be loaned back to Forest for next season.

But there was news tonight that Forest manager Stuart Pearce was against the transfer and didn’t want it to happen because he thinks the value of the two players will keep going up.

And he’s probably right – so it already looks another good deal for Newcastle, with the players being ones for the future.

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126 comments so far

  • Sliema

    Aug 4, 2014 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #1

    I hope so.

    Anyone watching the game tonight?

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  • kilcline

    Aug 4, 2014 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #2

    Decent business:

    Swap Ben Arfa and couple of mill for Grenier
    Flog them MYM if they want him and maybe swap with Lacazette and some cash.

    Sign Richards for £6m.
    Flog Taylor to someone like Leicester for £2m.

    Job done.

    In Richards, Lacazette and Grenier.
    Out Taylor MYM and Ben Arfa.

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  • KevinHann

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #3

    And that leaves us a CB short – nice deal.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #4

    Just yesterday on Lyons own website Aulas was saying if the money is right then Grenier can leave
    I believe OdL are quite hard up

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  • YohanKebabShop

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #5

    Kilcline

    It’s just not that easy fella as I’m sure you know…

    Also not so sure Micah Richards is all that??

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  • jimmysmith

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #6

    That would take some wheeling and dealing. A season long loan maybe, with us supplementing his wages, and a decent deal on one or both of their lads. Seems a stretch, particularly as Benny is quite clearly insane.

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  • Sliema

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #7

    Kevin

    Hahaha!!! Did it start to gradually dawn on you that his plan was rather flawed whilst you were reading it too? That was enjoyable.

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  • KevinHann

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #8

    It wasn’t that gradually 😉

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  • Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #9

    or swap Benny with Umtiti. That’s one of the targets listed in the blog a while back.

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  • NZGeordieviaAfrica

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #10

    YohanKebabShop – I agree on the Micah Richards front, I’m not quite sold on him especially cos he’s played so little the last two seasons. We do however need a CB badly as everyone seems to know except the powers that be??? Just use the swap and cash to get Lacazette and forget about Grenier. Work on one striker and one CB (preferably a starting CB)? Are there no French CB’s going on the cheap? What about in Holland?

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  • KevinHann

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #11

    I’m at a loss where Grenier would fit in the current team, unless Sissoko leaves. On the other hand he wouldn’t be a bad option to have if De Jong is injured all the time.

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  • Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #12

    Maybe swapping Umtiti and Lacazette, but no to Grenier because we are well stocked in midfield.

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  • Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #13

    I mean getting them with Benny going the other way.

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  • Ethiotoon

    Aug 5, 2014 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #14

    Sliema
    who do u support, mu or liv ? & why ?

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  • Sliema

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #15

    I don’t understand the peeps who don’t want Grenier. I know there are bigger reqs atm.

    I’d personally spend the supposed £15mil being thrown around as our CF budget, on a CB!

    But Grenier would bring our strongest Midfield I can remember, it would be a real statement. Imagine having that strength in depth!

    If we want to be a top club, we need proper squad depth.

    (we also need a CB with more than 12 brain-cells)

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  • Sliema

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #16

    Ethio

    Good question. I really hate both of them, but Utd are seriously an enemy.

    51% Liverpool.

    Yourself?

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  • Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #17

    well, if we mean to keep a lot of midfielders on the bench or lose Sissoko, we could have Grenier. Not that we don’t want him, but we have a squad that’s not in balance.

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  • BOOM BOOM THE 1ST

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #18

    Makes me laugh people calling for ben arfa make weight deals for no matter who. If he cant get use of a player with that much talent theres no guarantee with anyone out there. Such a waste.

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  • Sliema

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:10 AM

    Comment #19

    We need depth to compete!!!

    Dude, how many ‘reserve’ players would walk into our team from the actual big clubs? A lot is the answer.

    We need a CB, who can cover RB preferably, but another quality midfielder would be great for us, no doubt.

    It’s not about leaving people out mate, it’s rotation, injuries, suspensions, players on poor runs of form. The extra competition for places will give them all a big kick up the backside.

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  • BOOM BOOM THE 1ST

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:11 AM

    Comment #20

    Q. How much would another ben arfa cost? A. There isnt one available. Hes the answer the gaffer needs checking. Ben arfa would flourish under a harry or martinez.

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  • Sliema

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #21

    Nobody flourishes under a Harry mate. Don’t go there. You’ll not be trusted again.

    Martinez is such a phenomenal manager btw. He’s really top-quality. I see him as Barca coach within two seasons.

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  • BOOM BOOM THE 1ST

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #22

    Sliema same could be argued bout some of our 1st teamers. With a better gaffer theyd be at top.

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  • YohanKebabShop

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #23

    Umtiti is a little short at 5’10. I think he’s better as a left back so I wouldn’t really want him.

    Micah Richards is lacking in defensive understanding, for example his positional sense is very poor. Although he is athletically very good he is very injury prone as well.

    I like Fabian schar and rudiger from Stuttgart. Admittedly I’ve only seen each of them about a dozen times but they’ve looked great every time.

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  • Bradley

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Why would you not want grenier?? Hes a beast and we havent really got a proper playmaker yet!! We could play
    ———-krul———-
    Jan–colo–willo–haid
    —-grenier-tiote—-
    Sissoko-de jong-cabella
    ——lacazette——

    That would be perfect!! Definitely be a top 8 club if we signed them 2 then maybe even a top centre back to partner colo antonio rudiger or virgil van dijk weve been in for them before so maybe we might sign a few more you never know. Its looking bright ahead for the toon

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #25

    YohanKebabShop

    Umiti has speed which we lack, at 5’10 he has a good reach when jumping he’s a bit like Andre Ayew when it comes to jumping for the ball

    and at a young age as well he will improve all the time and will become one of the top defenders in world soon.

    if I’m honest I would rather have him then both Grenier & Lacazette

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  • YohanKebabShop

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #26

    I may well be wrong but I can just see umtiti being outjumped by lots of centre forwards.

    After all you can have all the leaping ability in the world but if your at a 6 inch disadvantage you’re gonna struggle.

    Size does matter lads… Despite what the missus tells you 🙂

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #27

    Sliema
    squad depth?

    this would be good if we were competing all the time for cups but for now we have a good balance in midfield.

    people say we need a striker and a CB and that’s job done but they don’t realize we need 2 right wingers, Sissoko doesn’t belong at RW and should not be placed there considering for France he play in CM and was a beast

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #28

    YohanKebabShop

    I’m 5’10 myself and I can jump/leap rather high for my height maybe about 9-10 foot.

    never judge anyone by there height

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  • YohanKebabShop

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #29

    Yeah but it’s not just height because a good striker knows how to use a size advantage to position their bodies where the shorter defender can’t challenge effectively.

    Our defence is already too short,

    Colo 6′ including all that hair so probs in reality 5’11
    Yanga mbiwa 6′
    Taylor 6’2 not bad but can’t jump
    Willo at 6’3-6’4 is the only one with height and he’s our most solid defender.

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  • Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #30

    We should get Crouch to play CB for us.

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  • Kris

    Aug 5, 2014 at 1:53 AM

    Comment #31

    When did the Forest keeper suddenly got 20 years again?

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  • Bradley

    Aug 5, 2014 at 2:42 AM

    Comment #32

    Apparently were looking to make a bid for virgil van dijk the celtic centre back hes rated at 10m but I think we’d probably be able to just about half that so 5-7m for him hes 6ft 4″, he scores from set pieces and hes actually quite quick it would be such a good addition if we sign him!!! Then grenier as our playmaker? Maybe straight swap for ben arfa. Then go for lacazette with tv rights money I hope we sell mbiwa he isnt good enough for bpl and pardew doesnt even play him in his cb position… hopefully 3 more major signings to come shortly

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  • deeps

    Aug 5, 2014 at 3:06 AM

    Comment #33

    Man United won comfortably 3-1 :O

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  • Ashton

    Aug 5, 2014 at 3:23 AM

    Comment #34

    We need a quality CB. It’s our weakest position. Manolas will be perfect for our club. He is a phenomenal CB and if we get him his price will triple within a year of playing for us.

    Kostas Manolas. Remember the name.

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  • Ashton

    Aug 5, 2014 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #35

    We’ve been linked with him previously. He has the tools to be one of the best CB’s in the world.

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  • toonicle

    Aug 5, 2014 at 3:38 AM

    Comment #36

    YohanKebab- Don’t say that too loud, you know how Pards loves his left backs.

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  • lesh

    Aug 5, 2014 at 3:55 AM

    Comment #37

    Ashton

    If Kostas Manolas is another Nicos Dabizaz, yes please.

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  • Santon03

    Aug 5, 2014 at 4:50 AM

    Comment #38

    I would rather have Lacazzete than Grenier.
    Give Lyon to choose 2 or 3 players HBA, Marv, Obertan, Guti or maybe all of them just for Lacazzete + some cash if needed.

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  • Santon03

    Aug 5, 2014 at 4:53 AM

    Comment #39

    I think we are the most active team in transfer market right now and I’m already happy if we don’t buy anymore.
    I hope we are gunning for all competitions now and has to win at least one or finished 4th, if not then pardew should go. This is his last chance and nomore excuses.

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  • Santon03

    Aug 5, 2014 at 4:55 AM

    Comment #40

    In reality we will be very lucky to get 10mil for HBA, Guti, Marv, Obertan.

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