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Pardew Talks About Newcastle’s Two Unsigned Englishmen

12:13 am, Wednesday, August 6th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 55 Comments

Newcastle boss Alan Pardew has talked about the signing of Nottingham Forest players 20 year-old center-back Jamaal Lascelles and 23 year-old goalkeeper Karl Darlow last night, but there’s just one problem – the deal has still not been announced officially by Newcastle United.

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Alan Pardew – we have done good business

Alan was speaking after the 2-2 draw at Huddersfield Town, and he said this last night:

“Every time we sign a player we think it’s good business.” “We think it’s part of what we do.” “It’s our judgement. They are two great assets for Newcastle United.”

Everybody is talking about the two English players Newcastle have signed, and both Nottingham Forest Manager Stuart Pearce and owner and Chairman, Fawaz Al Hasawi have talked about their two players signing at Newcastle, and then being loaned back to Forest for the season.

Hopefully, Newcastle will officially announce these two young Englishman today (Wednesday), and that will make three Englishmen Newcastle have signed this summer, the other one being local lad Jack Colback – a free agent from Sunderland.

And the £7M fee for the two players will take Newcastle’s outlay this summer up to £35M for nine players, and if the news is to be believed, we are not finished yet.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Financials · Jamaal Lascelles · Karl Darlow · Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




55 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Our Toon // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:22 AM

    Slow down Ed

    Lads if I may, pre season for me is to gel in new signings, try out different formations and more importantly try to work towards a cohesive plan or playing method. Where are we at:

    We have a poor defence and we concede to many chances, our ball retention is appalling and because of this we suffer burnout much like last season….This was evident in a few. We set up to nullify the opposition concentrating on there strengths rather than looking at ways we can hurt them. We sit back soak up pressure and try to pinch a goal, for these reasons I want pardew out….win lose or draw!!

  • 2 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:25 AM

    Would that be true that they won’t be announced because they don’t play for us this season… or will they?

  • 3 Ashton // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    We need a quality CB. It’s a priority. It should’ve been a priority before the transfer window opened.

    This transfer window would be incomplete if we don’t get a proper CB.

    Yes, we’ve signed many players, some of them are really good. But our defense was shocking last season. It will be next season if we don’t sign a CB.

    Kostas Manolas would be perfect. And just what we need.

  • 4 Our Toon // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    Rather than blaming tiredness maybe he should shoot the person who made the schedule.

  • 5 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:27 AM

    You guys might wanna know about this:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mh17-disaster-body-newcastle-united-3996357

  • 6 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    John and Liam’s bodies are identified.

  • 7 Ashton // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    On wiki it says that Manolas is 6’1 but that’s incorrect, he is 6’2. And he is a best in the air. He would cost 8-10m and would be worth every pinny.

  • 8 g.s.tooner // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    @our toon

    I dont think it is a bad thing that we have had such an intense pre season. Whenever you bring new players to a club they need time and game time to settle in and build a relationship both with their fellow team mates and the manager. Considering we have signed 7 new players I think the fact we will have played 8 (?) pre season games without any serious injuries can only be seen as a positive. It has given us valuable information about our new strike force as well as how certain midfielders play together. Excellent pre season in my eyes, there has been flashes of excellent play, coupled with some good results.

  • 9 swemag // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:38 AM

    Repost

    What’s up with Tiote?

    Tiote anyone?

    To be sold?

    Small injury?

    Was he even playing in Germany?

  • 10 g.s.tooner // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    Having said in my previous post we have had an excellent pre season I would like to add that that I am getting increasingly worried about the depth of creativity in midfield (without siem we have not got a clear play maker who can hold up play, start intelligent attacking moves and pull the strings for us going forward). I think we need 1 more in the middle who is capable of doing that and I wholeheartedly believe Grenier is the best choice to fill this gap.

    It is also clear our defence is not up to scratch.

    Krul in goal fine, Janmaat excellent replacement for debucy, Santon and Haidara fine for the Lb position.

    Collocini will do this season as long as he has a partner who is quick, intelligent and strong. He can not hold up our defence as he has done in previous seasons any more, he just doesnt have the youthful vigour or pace any more to do it!

    Williamson and Good are fine back ups but not first team quality.

    Unfortunately Saylor hasn’t delivered on his potential and has to go. YMB is clearly being developed as back up for our full back positions and I believe he can do the job for us in this supporting role.

    It is clear to me that to plug our defence we need a first choice quality CB and I hope reports on van dijt are accurate as he would be great from what I have found out about him online.

    So van Dijt a must, Grenier to be safe.

    If these two transfers happen I will be overjoyed and firmly believe it is a sign that we have all been wrong about Mashley and his intentions for this club.

    HWTL

  • 11 g.s.tooner // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:45 AM

    @swe mag

    http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

    No signs of injury. Perhaps just out of favour after two below par seasons on the trot. My prediction is he will slowly be worked back into squad this season to try and recreate former confidence and form.

  • 12 g.s.tooner // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:51 AM

    van Dijt striker material?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EphF42yoNyk

  • 13 g.s.tooner // Aug 6, 2014 at 12:56 AM

    Ok 1 more

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY-RXVRpnUY

    (van Dijt)

  • 14 jimmysmith // Aug 6, 2014 at 1:21 AM

    I of course like the new signings and the increased hope they bring, although being a life long Toon I’ve long since come to terms with the concept of hope and realization.

    Seems to me we’ve still got a defense that will ship goals if put under the cosh, an untested attack that will invite pressure onto said defence if it can’t find the back of the net and only one genuine central lying playmaker to lay them on, who also happens to be injury prone. This is Newcastle, shit DOES happen. Even only one out of a quality CB, AM, or Striker would help enormously.

  • 15 lesh // Aug 6, 2014 at 1:23 AM

    Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    If they’re signed they’re ours – being loaned back or not – and we’d expect an announcement.

    Maybe the Press department have taken a short break, a pause for breath after being so busy of late.

  • 16 lesh // Aug 6, 2014 at 1:26 AM

    jimmysmith

    You’re a realist man and don’t expect too much until it happens.

    That way there’s no disappointments!

    Hey ho, another season to look forward to.

    😉

  • 17 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 6, 2014 at 2:17 AM

    JP,

    Aye, I’d like to see another quality playmaker brought in as back-up to Siem. I’v seen only too often what happened when Cabaye only hit the 20ish games mark through injuries or when he was sold in January.

    The quality was never there for me.

  • 18 geordie abroad // Aug 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM

    I’d like to see a good natural left winger who can deliver a good cross, put cabella on the right and Sissoko CM. An AM because de jonk looks like he could be a sick note, get holtby or kagawa on loan with a view to buy if they perform and a good CB with prem experience like Shawcross.

  • 19 Sliema // Aug 6, 2014 at 2:46 AM

    Geordie Abroad

    De Jong has pulled his hamstring. Big deal. It’s not fair or even close to accurate to write him off already! He’s actually looked very impressive so far and most fans feel he will go on to be a fantastic signing. Best of this window by far too.

    And, Sissoko can not play AM. That’d be a boring and negative system to play. We need a much more creative player in the number 10 role, like every single successful team out there.

    Actually, I’m struggling to see a permanent posituon for him, he’s not fantastic on the wing, and he’s probably not quite defensive enough to play alongside Tiote!

    Maybe he’ll improve on the wing with the addition of better attackers around him and with Janmaat bombing on.

  • 20 gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club) // Aug 6, 2014 at 3:59 AM

    @Sliema – Sissoko in France was a proper box to box player, a genuine all round midfielder. I think alongside Tiote as the 2 (If we’r eplaying 4-2-3-1) where he can play like Yaya Toure, positionally defensive midfield but can go on charges and take shots.

  • 21 Sliema // Aug 6, 2014 at 4:42 AM

    gonufc

    Yeh you’re possibly right. If he can just improve his tactical awareness and defensive capabilities.

    I hope he can gel with Tiote, cause he’s better than both Colback and Anita. Plus that means we can play Cabella, Riviere, Gouffran, Perez, Aarons on the wings. (A little but light in those areas actually) also gives us a chance to play Chucky up top, or Cisse if he finds form.

    But I still think we need Siem at number 10 position, defo not Sissoko, he’s not right for that role. As I said we already lack a lot of creativity and link-up play from midfield to attack. (We often stand still and pass from side-to-side) Siem is a proper number 10, really intelligent and graceful player, he’ll do very well for bus.

  • 22 Ethiotoon // Aug 6, 2014 at 4:44 AM

    Even though don’t want him to leave,
    Selling sissoko to Monaco for good money and replacing him with Grenier might be excellent business.if siem DJ suffer long term injury,we will get trouble creating much needed chances and ball distribution.we are big club,pure playmaker is a must for a club like us who always want to compete in europe and move forward as always.
    If we land Grenier or lacazatte by sacrifi’g
    Ben arfa,that’d be huge bargain deal,that everybody wants.
    As we noticed yesterday, we fielded strong eleven,that initially thought we will winthe game easily.but struggled to move the ball forward and create chances.the positive take is we scored in every games we played so far,,w/h indicate our up fronts were very good if not excellent. but without playmaker, it might be tough task to push for European places..

  • 23 Sliema // Aug 6, 2014 at 4:59 AM

    Ethio

    We already know how much you love Grenier 😛

    I disagree. We have SDJ, Cabella, Rivière, Perez, Armstrong, who can all play behind a main striker.

    We need a CB more than yet another playmaker/midfielder.

    You don’t seem to understand that we need a CB, come on man, it’s so obvious!

  • 24 Ethiotoon // Aug 6, 2014 at 5:57 AM

    Sliema
    I agree we need CB,but can’t see that happening unless we sell s.Taylor or mbiwa.it’s not about loving Grenier, it’s about what is best for our club Newcastle.
    What is ur Football background,Armstrong can’t be playmaker,I assume u didn’t read my post carefully,besides all the players u mentioned cannot be playmakers,how on earth u think that,,,
    Playmaker must be the priority…

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 6, 2014 at 6:32 AM

    A prolific goal scorer and a physical CB should be a priority if we want to do better than to just emulate last season.

    …that said a major injury will still be a problem and I still fear coach d will build the game around one player (SDJ) and if he gets injured we will be in big trouble.

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 6, 2014 at 6:33 AM

    It’s a slow morning it seems 😉

  • 27 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 6:40 AM

    Sliema @ 23

    You cannot compare De Jong with Rivière, Perez and Armstrong.

    Rivière is a forward. Perez and Armstrong are too inexperienced.

    De Jong is a very experienced cultured player who will flit between the midfield and the attack. Cabella could play the number 10 but he isn’t a midfield player in the Cabaye / Grenier mold.

    I believe the central playmaker position is our weakest position as we only have De Jong with Anita as backup who has his limitations.

  • 28 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 6, 2014 at 6:54 AM

    Just to be clear we don’t have to play with a #10. Actually under our current coach that’s when we have been worst.

    To be honest SDJ can easily play as a #8 seeing ad he had done so at Ajax when Eriksen was their #10.

  • 29 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:08 AM

    I believe we will make one possibly two more signings but the choice of who is available is very limited.

    The problem to date, when looking for a strong centre forward, is that quite a few players who we have been after have said they are not interested in Newcastle.

    The club could surprise us with a player we have never thought of but the likely runners and riders appear to be Remy, Bony and Lacazette.

    As for centrebacks I don’t know but Dick Van Dijk would appear to tick all the boxes.

  • 30 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:17 AM

    Cant see us signing Van Dijk when Mbiwa is still here.

    Someone was saying yesterday that Mbiwa is our highest earner, so i really don’t see us bringing another big wage centre half in.

    In addition; we are paying both the Forrest lads’ wages for this season also.

    As for another creative player i agree that Grenier would be excellent – and he could play as a deep lying creative player as Cabaye does for France.

    He’d sit in alongside Tiote, with Sissokko on the right of the three ehad of them.

    I also agree with the comment before that saw Sissokko as a box to box midfielder. I do too. But i don’t think Pardew does and thats what matters. Pardew loves his stats and i know Sissokko was our most creative player last season from the right hand side position. I’m almost certain that’s where Pards will play him.

    De Jong can play as a central midfielder but i know that the Ajax fans much preferred him as an attacking midfielder – In the hole/support striker.

    I hope this is where he plays for us.

    Furthermore; the Lacazette rumours won’t go away. I was reading earlier this morning that Ben Arfa now has his heart set on re-signing for Lyon although no offer has been forthcoming due to a huge discrepancy in valuation.

    If we can use Ben Arfa as a make weight in a deal for either Grenier or Lacazette (or better still both) then i’d be over the moon.

    I’d love to see us keep Ben Arfa but we should resign ourselves to the fact that we don’t pick the team, and Pardew has clearly made up his mind that he wants him away.

  • 31 Ethiotoon // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:26 AM

    Goalkeepers
    Krul,Elliot, Alnwick
    No problem.I don’t mind if we let go krul.I know he is top GK in England, but sometimes has problem in his feet and on one on one situation.
    If sold:I recommend jereon zoet(PSV)
    Center backs
    Willo, s.tay,mbiwa,coloccini
    Problem exists.we can’t rely the whole season with s.tay and willo. both have problem in concentration and speed.
    Esp s.Taylor has also timing problem, tackling, marking.and injury prone
    Solution: sell s.tay and bring another CB,
    Like veltman Alderweirld,van dijk or Rudiger.
    Other solution: retain Jamaal lascelles and offer s.tay in exchange if possible
    Defensive midfield
    Tiote,Anita,colback,Abeid
    No problem.
    Better options:sell Abeid and replace with Hadzic,shelvey or fofana to get best standby cover for Tiote
    Wingers
    Cabella,Aarons,obertan,sissoko, benarfa
    No problem.
    Playmaker
    Siem de jong,??????
    Problem.no cover for siem. if sustain long term injury,we will struggle creating chances and dictating games
    Solution: land Grenier, shelvey or clasie
    Strikers
    Cisse, Reviere, Ferreyra,Goufran
    Problem.experienced striker required still.can’t rely on cisse and Ferrreyra the whole season as the former has fitness problem and loss of form while ferry is new and inexperienced
    Solution:land lacazatte or Remmy or muriel or PEA
    Manage and his staffs
    Have a chance full one seasonn to change things around
    Big task waiting for them no doubt

  • 32 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:30 AM

    @Ethiotoon

    Im pretty sure that Pardew wants to be flexible this season. Especially in the possible bank of three behind the front man.

    As Cabella can play Left, Right, and Centre, he can be seen as another play maker. And i believe that he and De Jong may even roatate, or at least switch positions from time to time during games, just to make them harder to pick up.

  • 33 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:31 AM

    T T V V T. & Ethiotoon

    Is there a competition of who can write the longest ?

  • 34 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:32 AM

    No, he is no competiton.

  • 35 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    T T V V T

    ‘ …If we can use Ben Arfa as a make weight in a deal for either Grenier or Lacazette …’

    Just need to give Ben Arfa more treats at Greggs and his weight should get us both players !

  • 36 cestriasteve // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:36 AM

    Leash from post:

    Like you I believe he Janmaat is a class act but he will take time to adapt to the EPL as Debuchy did. Interesting interview by Wenger the other day about that kid he signed from Southampton saying he signed him on the basis of how he played against Arsenal, I believe the same about Debuchy as he had Cazorla in his pocket the whole game last season.

  • 37 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:37 AM

    @Slank

    Oooooh. More HBA weight jokes?

    That’s in bad ‘taste’.

    Waaaahahaha.

  • 38 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:39 AM

    @cestriasteve

    We more than likely signed Cabella on the basis of how he played against Arsenal.

    He ran them ragged!

  • 39 cestriasteve // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:41 AM

    TTVT,

    Lyon have already said they can’t afford his current wages. Benny will simply sit out his contract and then be off with a sign on somewhere else.

    There has been too much posting on Ben Arfa in my opinion from a management point of view Pardew is right in what he has done, you can’t have a player or agent questioning the manager or critising the manager.

  • 40 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:41 AM

    Ethiotoon

    I do like your contributions, always thoughtful but do you think you could put some spaces in every now and then. Ta

    BTW, is the muriel you quote any part of the tea ladies at the club or have I got Muriel mixed up with someone else ?

  • 41 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:42 AM

    T T V V T

    Very good. Lol

  • 42 cestriasteve // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:42 AM

    TTVT,

    Cabella, I’m sorry the jury is still out, I’ve seen more meat on a butchers pencil.

  • 43 cestriasteve // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    TTVVT,

    Put it another way Cabella versus Nastasic next Saturday, I hope he can run…. Fast!!

  • 44 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:53 AM

    @cestriasteve

    “Cabella, I’m sorry the jury is still out”

    The jury hasn’t even been called in yet, he’s not played a competitive game for us. Two friendly appearacnces. Certainly can’t even begin to judge him on that.

    As for his weight i don’t necessarily agree with that assumption anyway.
    There’s quite a few Arsenal and Man City players who are small and lighweight, but their quick thinking and trickiness more than make up for it.
    Players like Ozil, Corzola, Nasri, Silva, Lallana – they’re not exactly Arnold Schwarzenegger are they?

  • 45 cestriasteve // Aug 6, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    TTVVT,

    Fair point and look at Obertan, looks like he’s hit the riods big time and he’s still not great.

  • 46 Ethiotoon // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:02 AM

    Slank
    Which Muriel comes to our mind immediately when….
    TTVVT
    I agree…

  • 47 check the toastie // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    If we need another creative midfielder in the team, simply sack Pardew bring Benny back in from the cold and we have a front three of

    Benny De Jong Cabella
    Riviere/Goof/Cisse

    Imagine if Martinez or Rodgers had that three in behind a sturridge or Lukaku, Absolute dynamite.

    Unfortunately Cabella will spend most of his time trying to create from deep in his own half, pretty much like Ben Arfa and Marveaux before him. Cabella will flop whilst Pardew is in charge.

    This is Guaranteed.

  • 48 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:08 AM

    Weight shouldn’t be an issue for a forward who is not a centre forward.

    Too much weight (as we all know with you know who) is a problem.

    Nolan was quite chunky but he nearly always was quicker in thought than anyone around him. Obertan is a big bloke but can shift whereas Shola was big but never really imposed himself on defenders like Shearer did.

    My hero was Gerd Muller who was chunky with a low centre of gravity which meant he was difficult to budge out of the way. He also rarely left the penalty box and was nearly always the quickest over a few yards.

    So to me Cabella is just fine.

  • 49 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:13 AM

    Ethiotoon

    I’m sure it was Muriel but it could have been Doris or Enid who were or still are the club’s tea ladies. Personally, I can’t see Muriel playing football. You sure you have the right person ?

  • 50 lesh // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:20 AM

    cestriasteve

    Then our loss (Debuchy) is Arsenal’s gain!

    Or couid it be our loss is our gain?

  • 51 Slank // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:23 AM

    Lesh,

    Unquestionably our gain but Janmaat probably needs quite a few games to get to his optimum best.

  • 52 Mag52 // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:26 AM

    Check the toastie. Benny,Cabella and De Jong behind Rivière,Goof and Cisse sounds great but for one thing. You won’t get more than a twenty minute cameo out of HBA due to his well documented weight problems and lack of fitness.
    The guy is a disgrace to his profession, more so because of the huge talent he possesses.

  • 53 T.T.V.V.T. // Aug 6, 2014 at 8:41 AM

    @cestriasteve

    I was laughing at a few posts on here yesterday. They mentioned Obertan, saying he more than deserved another shot at the club.
    That he’d worked his socks off pre season and was reaping the rewards.
    That he might come good this season and should start on the right against City.
    And that he was an integral part of the team in the season we finished fifth.

    I notice he was PONY last night.

    So what now? Sell him? He’s not fir for Gateshead? He’s got to be an Alien? He should go into acting?

  • 54 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 6, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    Good that you think that, Alan. Now you will have less excuses when you mess it up again.

  • 55 dcdick // Aug 6, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    Knock, knock…………..who’s there ?

    Taxi for Pardew……….

    Pardew Out !!!




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