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Opinion Remains Sharply Divided On This Newcastle Player

9:26 am, Saturday, August 9th, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 25 Comments

It seems that this year’s antics with the way Alan Pardew has handled Hatem Ben Arfa at Newcastle has divided the fans, and some still think Ben Arfa should be kept at Newcastle, simply  because he is a highly skilled match winner – and there’s not too many of those types around these days.

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Ben Arfa and Alan Pardew during better days

And on the other side of things, some Newcastle fans see the Frenchman as too undisciplined and too lazy to be kept on at Newcastle, and  point to the fact he was overweight when he returned to pre-season training this summer.

Ben Arfa was presumably banished to the Reserves for that, but we think he would be training with the Reserves in this pre-season whatever happened, and Pardew made that decision last May.

We’d still like to see this potential match-winner stay on at Newcastle for this coming season, and be used in the first team squad.

But that’s unlikely to happen with Alan Pardew having already decided he’s not professional or disciplined enough to be a Newcastle player and he said as much recently.

And the fact he was stripped of his number 10 shirt at Newcastle two days ago is further evidence that Ben Arfa’s days are numbered on Tyneside.

Ben Arfa may find some salvation before September by getting to another club for this season, either in England or in France, and Everton and Lyon are two clubs interested in taking the player

Everton manager Roberto Martinez  wants a winger signed before September, and he’s known to admire Ben Arfa’s significant skills:

“It’s only one position we need.” “We want to take as long as we can to see how quickly we can get the injured players back to being available for the first-team.”

“Probably another body would help for the September month when we have three competitions to fight for, and we’ll carry on working hard on that.”

“Wide player is the position we want to bring in but in terms of names, it is too early to mention to our fans.”

The team is all important to Alan Pardew, and when Newcastle players were said to complain in the dressing room about Ben Arfa’s work-rate during some of the tough losses we took earlier this year – the Newcastle manager seems to have decided it was better that the Frenchman was not part of the first team squad.

And if Ben Arfa does leave Newcastle this summer, then opinion will remain divided as to whether he was a top class player unfairly treated by the manager, or on the other hand too lazy and undisciplined to be part of Newcastle’s first team.

This feud is bad for Alan Pardew, bad for Hatem Ben Arfa – and not good for Newcastle United.

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25 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    Re-post

    I read yesterday that Benny was not allowed to play in any public game because he is a fan favorite and the club cannot control the spin with fans cheering for Benny!

    …I am skeptic about anything this club does these days, but thought the club can’t be this dumb but then I came along this article and it seems their arrogance know no boundaries:

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/persecution-ben-arfa-making-newcastle-united-even-bigger-joke/

    There is a reason why a call someone at this once respectable club a dumpass!

  • 2 Jeff from Benwell // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Jesper
    Dumpass isn’t even a word
    you DUMBASS

  • 3 G // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Oh well, half the blog has been screaming for this thread all week. Let battle commence.

  • 4 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    …one man’s ego seems to be next man / supporters burden :(

    What a sad state of affairs this club is in – that article of Ashley wanting to crush any competitors who wouldn’t comply (see a pattern) does not help the sad image of this once great club!

  • 5 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    I am sorry Jeff I don’t speak Monkey!

  • 6 croftus5678 // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    imo benny should be going as he’s never anywhere near consistant enough for 1st team.

    we shouldnt sell him to a prem team mind you and i suspect he wont have many options of where he will go as a lot of teams will have the same view on him.

    shame cos he’s very good player on that odd day and in a lesser paced and physical league the lad will run riot but if i made the decision not to welcome remy back who is consistant for us then compared to arfa its a no brainer.

  • 7 ERER // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Even if he were in the good books he still wouldn’t start.

    He is about as fit as Mark Viduka.

    He won’t play another game for the club, he failed the test Pardew gave to him to prove himself.

    Hasn’t been to his best since the double leg break, sad but true.

  • 8 jazzyp // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:42 AM

    I believe we should just get rid of Benny once and for all.
    But then again on his day he is a world beater so maybe we should keep him???

    Wow now thats how it feels to be Ibiza and sit on the fence lol

  • 9 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:43 AM

    Yes Benny is really the one portraying Newcastle in a bad way!

  • 10 StephenW // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    HBA was unreal for Newcastle at times yes, but he on countless occasions lost the ball, refused to pass or cross it. A piece of magic once every 10 games doesn’t make up for that

  • 11 dannitoon // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    How can anyone comment on benny.. its all been a 1 sided debate… seems to me he’s knuckled down in reserves

  • 12 Average_Contents // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    He’s shite, he’s fat, his attitude stinks, he’s unprofessional….just a few of the names the fans have called him due to the NUFC propaganda machine and parsnips bullshit spin!

    Then say….Don’t let him go to another prem side! Why would that be? I rest my case!

  • 13 firebug666 // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    G

    PMSL

    Thing is, Benny has been used as a scape goat and for what? Having a go at the manager because of his inept tactics, poor team selection, baffling substitute decisions, Telling him he is an attacking forward and not a defensive wing back.

    Benny has his problems, there is no doubt about that, he is high maintenance, but he is also magical with the ball at his feet especially when he doesn’t have to pick the ball up deep in our own half and then run the entire length of the pitch to get into his natural attacking position.

    But there is the problem, Benny cannot defend, he has no idea about defensive positioning he cannot tackle, simply because this is not his game.

    Benny needs to play higher up the pitch where he can receive the ball turn and attack.

    So he told the manager a few home truths, The fans have all been doing the same, and for longer. Even Coloccini had a go at Pardrew according to reports.

    Was Benny wrong to tell Pardrew to his face what all of us would love to say?

    Time to Duck!

  • 14 TemurisBaldyBonce // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Hi Ed! Just so you know – i will never click on one of your articles that says something like ‘for this Newcastle player’… without telling the reader who you are talking about in the headline.

    Basically it shows you have nothing to say, that you don’t trust your own integrity and have to rely on…clickbate techniques. It undermines your whole website.

    Best wishes though.

  • 15 croftus5678 // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    @11 danni

    what makes you think that if you dont mind me asking ?
    i only mention because he was left out of our blyth spartans game when if he’s not getting 1st team he should surely be walking in it.

    i only see the facts as i can never tell if our club is lying or ot tbh.
    i see how good he is but its prob 1 in 4 games and he never really contributtes to anything in the other 3 so is he worth that much leaveway ? imo no.
    i see how much his team mates was upset with him last season not even passing to him and choosing a harder option and thats not a good thing and they when he had that great game and became a team player he went back to normal the game after :-(
    then there was pards who came out in public and said he was still our player but he seemed to not care about his fitness program.

    theres only so much he can push it and for someone inconsistant as he is and how long we have put up with it imo times up as he’s taking us for a mug as it is.

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    History is being rewritten and Benny’s contribution will soon be downgraded to something meaningless!

    …It’s spin in motion and sadly some are eating it up raw. Soon they won’t even remember what is up and what is down at this once great club.

    *And Jeff is speaking monkey. Sad times indeed.

  • 17 croftus5678 // Aug 9, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    @12 average

    its because he’s trained day in and out with our players and knows our weak spots and with his talent on his one in 4 days he could tear esp our defence apart !

    thats why mostly ex players tend to score against there old teams imo why should we risk it ?

  • 18 Toon1978 // Aug 9, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    It’s beggars belief that Pardew should drop HBA because of unprofessional behaviour. OMG, is the kettle calling the pot black here? Lest we not forget Pardews Unprofessional behaviour over the last few seasons in which he should have been SACKED! A hypocrite who has kept his job. HBA steps out of line and he is punished and swepped to one side like a used toy. Not needed anymore. Pards has no right to tell anyone how to behave at all. Yes, HBA has been unprofessional and yes he should conduct himself in a better way, after all he is being paid huge amounts of money to kick a ball around. A huge talent and he is wasting what he has but in no way does Pardew have any right to punish anyone. After all, he has kept his job even after nutting a player. Sorry for the rant lads.

  • 19 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Aug 9, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    What’s Ben Arfa even done that’s so bad, not passed to anyone when there’s no one in space, he plays in a static team that lumps the ball forward and most of our players are still in our half of the pitch!

    I honestly cant believe how many people have lapped up Pardews dross on this situation! He’s only used him as a scapegoat for our losses, because we went on a losing streak, the heat was on Pards, so what does he do, blame one of his players! when it showed in fact we were no better off without benny in the team, it just meant we couldn’t score aswell as getting humped 4:0 every game.

    What isit bennys done that’s so bad? has he refused to play in the position asked like Ba, refused to play incase he gets injured like Remy, Tried to force a move like Cabaye, Enrique, Colo, He’s certainly not been anything like Barton or Ranger and they got more of a chance than him!

    I for one wouldn’t be against him going on loan to Everton, I’d be heartbroken if we sold him, as he is our most talented player still by miles, and my favourite since Robert, But at least if he had a seasons loan to Everton, he’d light it up, be played in his correct position not as part of a 10-man defence, and show percy what a muppet he is!

    And to anyone that says he doesn’t know when to pass…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQW7huGFgDo

    Long live King Arfa!

  • 20 Deana // Aug 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    It’s simple…. Ben Arfa is one of our best players and is no doubt a handful to manage. It’s just another example of Alan Pardew being unable to perform in his positions. As well as poor tactics, getting the best out of players and bringing on the youth, add man management to his list of failings.
    Somebody on twitter made a very good point the other week. He said, can you imagine bobby Robson with this ‘problem’. He would have put his arm around Ben Arfa and told him he’s the best player in the world. The situation would never have happened with a good manager who is respected. Pardew out!

  • 21 geordieviking // Aug 9, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    I was a big fan of HBA, when he was scoring wonder goals but even then there were plenty of critics pointing out how often he lost the ball and/or failed to pass.
    Last season he added nothing to the team when he playwd but apparently it’s now all Pardew’s fault.
    Sorry, but he’s a luxury we can’t afford.

  • 22 thepict // Aug 9, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    There is no doubt that HBA has a God given talent. However, the number of times I have seen him give the ball away. I have seen three world class players at Newcastle. Hatem is not one of them.

  • 23 check the toastie // Aug 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Five games and Pardew is sacked hopefully, then Ben Arfa would come in from the cold and be dynamite with a new forward thinking manager in charge.

    PARDEW OUT.

    LONG LIVE KING BENNY

  • 24 dcdick // Aug 9, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Manager/Coach……………whatever your job title you are paid to get the best out of your players. You are a disgrace & a failure Pardew !

    Pardew Out !!!

  • 25 worWEZZA71 // Aug 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    If Martinez thinks he is good enough for his ambitious Everton squad (aiming for top 4 btw ) Why is benny not even considered for our starting 11. He reminds me of Lauren Robert..amazing player but needs managing.. come on pardew! it is what we need.




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