Make This A Regular Feature In Honor Of John And Liam


The Newcastle fans yesterday at St James’ Park applauded for a full minute in the 17th minute of the game against Real Sociedad in honor of John Alder and Liam Sweeney, who lost their lives when Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was shot down on July 17th.

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John Alder and Liam Sweeney

And today in the Chronicle the local paper is calling on supporters to make the applause a permanent thing for all our games this season.

And the tragedy has so gripped the fans of other clubs – that the opposition fans will join in the applause for John and Liam – and Manchester City fans will have a banner in honor of John and Liam at next Sunday’s first league game of the season.

This is what Liam’s father Barry Sweeney has said:

“I didn’t know they were doing that but it’s a nice gesture. It would be great if they did it for the rest of the season and they would be part of every game.”

“They will never be forgotten.” “If Liam knew everyone was clapping for him he wouldn’t have believed it, but he would have been so proud.”

The 17th minute is appropriate because it was the 17th of July their flight was shot down with all 298 on board losing their lives,  and the flight number was MH17 – a flight number the airline will never use again.

In yesterday’s program there was a one page tribute to the two fallen supporters which read:

“In memory of Liam Sweeney and John Alder. Rest in Peace. With love from all at Newcastle United.”

Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew also had this to say:

“The tragic loss of our loyal supporters John Alder and Liam Sweeney as they traveled to New Zealand was devastating for everyone at Newcastle.”

“And we will give them the respect they deserve with a full tribute in front of a packed St James’ Park next weekend.”

We applaud the initiative taken by the Chronicle today, and simply wanted to help get the word out,  and it seems very appropriate – and certainly John Alder and Liam Sweeney will never ever be forgotten by Newcastle United or by their fans.



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155 comments so far

  • Average_Contents

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #1

    I’ll be clapping at home and if my son watches with me he’ll be clapping too although he is only 5 and won’t really understand

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #2

    I wouldn’t say this squad has improved in quality but in width surely!

    …but me have also lost alot of experience – and most importantly we haven’t solved our goal scoring problem / or goal leaking problem 😉

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  • Beatroll25

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #3

    If ever a club needed to show ambition in the cups to pay homage to 2 supporters murdered on their way to a match it is this one.

    I hope we can at least attempt to win some silverware as that would be a great moment for the club and the memory of 2 great servants.

    I don’t think we would win the cup but just to try. We should have the members kit from yesterday made into our cup kit and have the names of both fans embroided into them.

    Turning the cup competitions into a mark of respect for the guys would be better than applauding in every game for me.

    If the club, owner, manager and players won’t try to win a cup for themselves, try to win it for these two amazing fans that literally followed them to the end of the earth and until the end of their lives.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #4

    Aren’t we taking this a bit too far? More than 270 people lost their lives; around 70 kids and entirely families were wiped out 🙁

    …and we are holding a minut silence in the 17th min. for two of our supporters who tragically lost their lives.

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  • 70TWO

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #5

    I agree with keeping the 17th minute applause, but can we also encourage the continual booing of P45due?

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  • Beatroll25

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #6

    jesper

    It is a minutes applause not a minutes silence.

    Also whilst the main focus will be on the 2 NUFC fans (given their association with the club) I believe the applause is for all those that perished, hence why it is in the 17th minute and not on the minutes that correspond with the ages of the fans as originally intended.

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  • Slank

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #7

    Jesper

    I think it is very appropriate what the club and the fans are doing. Yes, it is very sad what the Russians did to shoot down a civilian plane and I hope all our supporters will remember all the other passengers and crew.

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  • Ethiotoon

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #8

    1949bh
    That is what surprised me most like you.but he and his pal are definitely under close monitor by other top clubs.their stats continued to improve from season to season.I am sure they will not remain in Lyon next season. Newcastle currently playing waiting game,a deal could still strike late in the window, especially if we let go Ben arfa.I am sure AP well aware of that.saying they both are under close radar by to clubs, this is the best time for us to strike the deal, both will benefit us on and off the pitch.feeling will happen at end of transfer window

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  • mindcompressor

    Aug 11, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #9

    it will be the same, here in my home city in Poland. we are going to watch the game in the pub and there will be applause/clapping too. i think it is good idea and will not disappear too quickly.

    HOWAY THE LADS!

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #10

    I mean no disrespect and I know this is a touchy subject.

    …maybe it is not the intention but it does come off as though that people forget the bigger picture.

    That said remembering people that are associated with the club is a noble gesture! I don’t know if some of you know what I mean.

    And excuse me if I am stepping out of line here – not intended.

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  • Beatroll25

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #11

    No point hoping Grenier and Lacazette come.

    Even if they issued come and get me pleas and Lyon reduced their asking price, we will not sign them unless we can move on Hatem and Jonas.

    Their wages (and positions in the final 25 squad list) are the things holding us back from more signings. The club has a strict wage budget and will not pay for a purple player to doss about in the reserves.

    Even if we get rid of Jonas we still have our full quota of 25 players so it isn’t even one in one out. We would have to move on 3 players to get both of Lyon’s stars and that isn’t going to happen for me.

    I reckon Jonas and Benny will be out on transfer deadline day with no replacements coming in making us a lesser squad but with less wages to pay.

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  • Beatroll25

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #12

    jepser

    You could say the same when the Dutch had a day of mourning for those of Dutch nationality that lost their lives.

    People pay homage to those closer to home. The bigger picture is that of course nearly 300 lost their lives, but 2 of those were people we could associate with so we will honour them at the stadium they called home.

    Much like on a grander scale we commemorate the servicemen of the UK and its current ad former territories who lost their lives in battles across the world. In truth 10’s of millions have perished in those wars but we honour our own but keep the others that died in the conflicts in our minds as we remember the fallen.

    Now these 2 fans aren’t heroes as such, but they were innocents who had no reason to be massacred so that is why there is such a tribute to them.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #13

    Regardless of what we think of the board and manager with the day to day running of the club you have to take your hats off to them over the sensitivity and support offered to the families of the lads

    They’ve been top class and the words from Pardew to the families have clearly offered great comfort in dark times

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  • beermonkey

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #14

    west ham have bid for wickham

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #15

    I don’t think we are better than last year, we have replaced out right back and tried to replace cabaye with cabella and de Jong which is good but not sure if they replace his influence.

    We’ve always had some talent in the midfield but struggled to get them all to gel in creating attacking play and also in providing cover infront of the defence and linking together, not being a disjointed team.

    Not seen anything other than highlights yet, so hard to know how the team are shaping up, hopefully Pardew will learn and improve.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #16

    @GFN_France: Mapou Yanga Mbiwa no longer a possibility for Marseille; Nantes want €8m for Djilobodji.
    Full story: http://t.co/7phoQ1LAde #OM #FCN #NUFC

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  • hitman

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #17

    take my hat off to the club for the way they have handled it,it shows some class which i thought the club had none,faip plays..

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  • hitman

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #18

    the only upgrade in players that have been brought in is janmatt for debs,i think janmatt is a better rb.imo.

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  • Beatroll25

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #19

    NUFCfans.co.uk ?@nufcfans 2m
    “There’s a good mood in dressing room. I hope we can live up to what this club represents, attacking football & good performances” AP

    Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Honestly he just says these things in the press to please his supporters, appease the gullible and tease his haters.

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  • Thump

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #20

    @jesper: People want to relate to the the event and we, as Newcastle fans, relate to the deaths of fellow fans. Because we’re mourning the loss of those close to us doesn’t mean that we aren’t mourning the loss of the other 270 people on that flight. It’s just that two of those souls were close to us.

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  • martoon

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #21

    toonarmydownsouth @13 – I agree and I can’t help but think this has to be to do with Lee Charnley who, although I don’t know him, he to be more decent than Llambias or JFK.

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  • thebionicMAG

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #22

    I agree with the clapping on the 17th minute 100% but think we should then move on. We are Geordies, not bleeding heart Scousers.

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  • Thump

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #23

    @Beatroll: Thing is, I’m more irritated by seeing “NUFCfans” than I am seeing Pardew. Hate those muppets more than Ashley!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #24

    The clapping still really chokes me up and restores faith in humanity.

    Horrible watching those sports direct and wonga signs. One day hopefully pardew and wonga will be gone and it will all have been just a bad dream

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  • 70TWO

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #25

    Transfer sage – thought this was worth reposting, not entirely accurate but helps to show how much P45due has NOT learnt and improved as a manager. And I was the one saying after the ManU win that he could become the best manager we have ever had!

    Beatroll25 // Aug 10, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    2010/11:

    Krul
    Simpson, Coloccini, Saylor, Enrique
    Barton, Guthrie, Nolan, Tiote, Gutierrez
    Carroll

    2011/12

    Krul
    Simpson, Colo, Willo, Santon
    Hatem, Guthrie, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez
    Ba

    2012/13

    Krul
    Debuchy, Colo, Willo, Santon
    Moussa, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Ba
    Cisse

    2013/14

    Krul,
    Debuchy, Colo, Willo, Santon
    Sissoko, Tiote, Cabaye, Vurnon, Gouffran
    Remy

    2014/15

    Krul,
    Janmaat, Colo, Willo, Haidara
    Sissoko, Tiote, Colback, Cabella, Gouffran
    Riviere

    5 teams over 5 seasons and the football has just not improved despite the personnel. We look exactly the same from when Pards took over to now.

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  • scitoon

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #26

    TransferSage – yes Cabaye was a good player but often was overwhelmed because we relied on him too much. Now we have 2 new players to replace him that can provide creativity and an attacking threat. Cabaye was good at number 10 but because of other problems we had to play him as a number 6 where he was less effective. Cabella and SDJ offer creativity further up the pitch. Further back we have Colback, Sissoko and Tiote to act like terriers – protect the defence and win the ball back. Yes, i would like to see Cabaye back but i think the team dynamics have changed. I believe Tiote will offer us the experience and influence that was missing post-Cabaye.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #27

    beermonkey // Aug 11, 2014 at 10:22 AM
    west ham have bid for wickham

    Strangely enough Pardew was managing Reading when CW was a 10 year old on their books.The next year Pardew left Reading for West Ham !

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  • scitoon

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #28

    70two – i see you must have a magic ball that tells you that the 2014/2015 season will be crap. Not really fair to say what team we will play, what formation and how it will work given a handful of pre-season games together where we use almost 20 players in 1 game.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #29

    beat

    would love to see the guy take a lie detector test.

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #30

    Beatroll25 // Aug 11, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    NUFCfans.co.uk ?@nufcfans 2m
    “There’s a good mood in dressing room. I hope we can live up to what this club represents, attacking football & good performances” AP

    Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Honestly he just says these things in the press to please his supporters, appease the gullible and tease his haters.

    Quite honestly there is nothing appeasing in that statement , if anything it’s quite humble , and if you as a hater find it teasing , you should seek help.

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  • firebug666

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #31

    Rotonda heights

    Would love to be the one asking the questions if Pardrew was having a lie detector test.

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  • toon kk

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #32

    We’re still a joke club under MA, yes we’ve improved, but still haven’t addressed our striker and CB situation. We buy with sell on in mind in most cases.
    Mash is still not showing real ambition he’s done enough to keep us up and get fans to renew season tickets.
    I was talking to some lads from Liverpool and there’s a waiting list years long for season tickets, there still on sale at Newcastle, how times change.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #33

    70TWO

    A good manager has a plan A, B, C and D and are always looking to innovate and bring in new ideas.
    Pardew only knows one way, ie stuck in the 80s and won’t ever change.

    The nerve of telling Ben Arfa he’s unprofessional after Pardew’s own catalogue of incidents defies belief.

    It’s hard to come across such a classless bunch of people as Ash, pardew, Wonga and previously JFK and Wise.

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  • Beatroll25

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #34

    nufcfans are the worst things on Twitter.

    Almost guarentee that ‘Umar’ supports Man Utd but saw a gap in the market as a NUFC fansite.

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  • Graeme

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #35

    Toon KK – it isnt that long ago where there were over 10,000 on the waiting list for NUFC Season Tickets – how times change!!

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  • scitoon

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #36

    Looking back at 70two’s repost of a beatroll post the more it actually knarks me. You have included the 2011/2012 season where we finished 5th and last season where we were a couple of pts behind Liverpool at Xmas and it was the sale of Cabaye that screwed us up (which btw was not AP’s fault). You also seem to insist that we play a 4-5-1, every season and every game. Generally things have been a mixture of 4-4-2 and 4-3-3.

    Ok, i agree it is difficult to describe a team lineup in shorthand on a blog – but your over-generalisation to make a sweeping statement on Pardew “has not learnt”, is just ridiculous.

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  • Average_Contents

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #37

    Scitoon

    I think what he’s trying to say is that history suggests that parsnip WILL play the same way regardless who he has at his disposal and not just here but at all his other clubs too but yes you are correct we don’t know but we have a fair idea wouldn’t you say?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #38

    It’s alright Jeff, we promise not to call you any names today.

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  • scitoon

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #39

    Average_contents – No i would say we have no idea. History tells us that Pards at NUFC has a mixed bag of results. See my post at 36. First half of last season was pretty good. I also enjoyed the 2011/2012 season when we finished 5th and qualified for the EL.

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  • 70TWO

    Aug 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #40

    scitoon – I am looking forward to the up coming season and am still keen to see who lasts the longest HBA or P45due. I think we will finish mid table and do better in cup competitions, which is what I was suggesting should be the target at the end of last season. If we do better and win a cup or finish in a European place it will be because of other teams failures, very much like when we finished 5th last time. AP is limited by his own ability and his superiors, I want better for my club but I am prepared to go through with the Ashley plan despite the mistakes and grievances.

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