Newcastle Offered Man City Forward(s) On Loan


Manuel Pellegrini has admitted that Manchester City still have too many players in their squad, and that’s especially true when they have been restricted in the size of their squad for Europe next season, after flaunting the Financial Fair Play rules over the last three years.

Manuel Pellegrini

Manuel Pellegrini – too many players at City

Pellegrini got City off to a good start in the league yesterday with a 2-0 win at St. James’ Park, but not before we frightened the living daylights out of the Champions, as our lads went all out for the equalizer in the second half.

This is what Manuel has said today:

“We maybe have too many players in the squad at this moment, players who need to play.¨ “That is very important, especially for young players.¨

“John Guidetti or maybe Scott Sinclair, they may need to play in a different team.¨ “We will see between now until the end of the transfer window what happens with our squad.¨

“At this moment, though, we have too many players.” ”We have had a lot of problems also with Financial Fair Play with the restriction on the amount of players we can put in our squad.”

One of the problems City have in trying to unload their players is they paid them ridiculously high wages to get them to the Etihad Stadium in the first place, which is one reason they have spent far too much money and gone against the UEFA Financial Fair Play guidelines – and they have been penalized for doing that.

scott sinclair

Scott Sinclair – Man City winger

So it’s difficult for other clubs to cough up and pay the inflated wages of the City players they want to unload.

Newcastle were interested in striker John Guidetti a year or so ago – so we suppose he may be a loan option, and John needs to play, because since scoring 20 goals for Feyenoord in 23 appearances in the 2011-2012 season he has played only six games on loan at Stoke City.

john guidetti

John Guidetti – Man City striker

And Alan Pardew knows about 25 year-old Scott Sinclair, who started his career with the Chelsea Youth Academy, and one of his many loan spells was at Charlton Athletic when Alan was the manager there, but Scott only played three games there in 2008, but spent two good seasons at Swansea after leaving Chelsea.

While at Swansea City Scott scored 36 goals in 91 total appearances.

It seems Newcastle need another striker more than a winger, but both Sinclair and Guidetti can score goals – so bringing in one of them on loan for the season would seem to be a reasonable option for Newcastle.

What do you think?

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373 comments so far

  • optimistic prime

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #1

    From what I’ve saw of Gudietti (3ganes)
    I’d take him in a heartbeat.

    Sinclair no thanks seems to be more interested in fame and money than footie

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #2

    TS…you need to run that by me again cause that made absolutely no sense.

    We knew last year that a few more games would tricker a clause (if the media is to be believed). We keep him because we need him for the start of the season? Then we don’t use him; sends him to Norwich in January this year. Now he trains with a personal trainer in Argentina?

    Could you explain your reasoning again?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #3

    Jesper

    He played 2 games for us last season and was cover if things got desperate, We loaned him out, probably hoping to get rid of him but Norwich sacked houghton so that deal will have been scuppered.

    Not we are letting him train back home, still not sure why we isn’t training with us even if he won’t feature as it will keep him in better shape football wise for a sale….maybe it was the best way we could get him to agree to accept his fate, by going back home.

    I can’t fully understand the reasoning he is home and ben arfa (the supposed trouble maker) is allowed to train with impressionable youth team players.

    It doesn’t make sense but I don’t know the ins and outs of it all, therefore I won’t pretend to, just offering my opinion on it.

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #4

    I see how ed skirted around the cabaye problem on the last thread, there was no mention of the guy going on strike at the beginning of the season, nor the mention of the cheap fee we got for him.

    fact, cabaye was playing for a move that he was promised,
    fact , we paid 4.5 million for a player who should have been a 15 million pound player, so yes we made a profit, but I think we sold him cheap.

    pardew blames the player for a poor start, not his tactics, hmmm there is a new one

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #5

    TS…that still don’t make sense, because he has a value last summer and we could have used that money to bring in a replacement.

    We knew we wouldn’t want to be in a situation what would tricker a new contract right?

    That’s the whole reason why he is being cased away I assume? Does this reason make sense to you?

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #6

    If Citeh need to save money how about a cheeky loan for Dzecho?

    Citehs 2nd choice but I really rate him, he’d start before Aguero for me.

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  • mindshaft

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #7

    Jonas won’t play for toon this season, the management have told him to find another club but so far he’s failed.
    Pointless having someone around the squad who isn’t going to play ( especially if the stories in the press about having to renew his contract on number of games played )
    I think it’s a good move from the club – we’ve basically told him he can move for nowt but needs to find himself a club as no one has come in for him – he may as well train at home rather than in the toon

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  • mindshaft

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #8

    The difference with HBA is that he’s been told he needs to be more professional in his attitude ( same as every other club he’s been at ) – think if he could change his attitude Pards would play him, allegedly Cabaye and Tiote were the two main players who refused to pass to him and complained to Pards about him

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  • dannitoon

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #9

    Damn got excited thought it was kün or Dzeko. .????

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #10

    jesper

    I know what you mean, and your way of doing things makes much more sense.

    But again we don’t know if they tried to sell him or not, maybe there were no takes…only norwich came in for him in jan and that was just a loan.

    In reality he is a poor player, has been for a long time, add to that he is getting older, not many will want him.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #11

    TS…I find it hard to believe we could not find a club for him if we did try. I just think it’s time we stop pretending and we see this club for what it really is…

    …I do get a bit disgusted by it sometimes. It’s not the Newcastle I fell in love with back in the early ’90’s.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #12

    As a swans fan as well as a newcastle fan I would take him, that’s why swans are in the premier league in the first place, he was my favourite player.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #13

    Could the reason HBA is training at the club and Jonas isn’t be down to the fact that Jonas has the dedication to keep in shape? Jonas is training back home and staying fit as he searches for a new club. Could it be that the club don’t have faith in HBA to keep fit enough for a club to buy him. His agent has already said that he is happy to sit out for a year rather than move on, so if we let him head back to France is there any guarantee he would keep fit in case a club does move for him in the next 2 weeks?

    On topic, wouldn’t want either on loan. Sinclair because he has done nowt other than one season at Swansea. Guidetti for the same reason I wouldn’t want Campbell. We have our own youngsters who we can give a chance to rather then progressing another clubs.

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #14

    mindshaft

    what about Obertan. im yet to see him play 🙂

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #15

    jesper

    I’m not sure, we certainly can’t find a club for him now. I bet there are plenty who’d take him but he’s on 50k a week, not many will match that and he might not be willing to sign to lose out on a good chunk of pay.

    Also remember how Ashley runs the club, very little planning does into transfers, lots of scouting but we don’t buy/sell when it’s best for us in playing terms, only when it’s best financially.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #16

    To clarify, one season in the Prem with Swansea

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 18, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #17

    Lilongwe…choose to believe what you like mate.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #18

    TS…which begs the question why the club is putting themselves in this predicament!

    …they brought this whole think on them self.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #19

    For Jonas, it is unlikely anyone will match his wages here, but it isn’t unheard of in football for the selling club to pay a wage contribution which takes them back to a similar wage. Surely any reduction in what we pay him would be a bonus, so offer him 20K (or equivalent amount) a week to top up his wages from his new club.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #20

    Jesper,
    Thanks. I will do just that.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #21

    Lilongwe

    Very true, depends what the club are hoping for. Maybe try that approach when all else fails in the last week of the window?

    Jesper

    It does, but the club keep doing this with transfers. They don’t seem to learn.

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  • Belfast

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #22

    Sinclairs career has nose dived from he left Swansea.

    Everybody bangs on about that Guidetti kid. He went on loan to Stoke last season for 6 months and couldn’t get a game.

    Must be good on football manager or something lol

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #23

    Transfer

    Your right there mate, the club moves when it’s financially right. It’s never when we need the player.

    I reckon Gutirez is in Argentina on bequest of Colocini who’s asked him to keep an eye on his lassie incase another long haired latin lover takes her eye!

    HBA took this piss saying “Gutierez will be playing hide the sausage with your wife”

    Colo obviously didn’t like that complained to Pardew who then packed HBA to the reserves because Pardew then realised he’d missed a trick by not gettin into Colos missus!

    As likely as anything else we’ve heard 😉

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  • thejokethatisnufc

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #24

    Any news on Cisse ?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #25

    Sage,
    Yeah, ideally we would not need to. I guess it all depends on who wants him. There can’t be too many clubs out there at a good level that would want him. If he ended up back in Argentina then it is likely we would need to pay most of his wages.

    The other thing that would make a bit of sense is to get Jonas, his representative and the club management round a table and agree to remove the clause, if indeed that is the issue. I doubt he would play much for us, but he could help out when injuries and fatigue strikes.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #26

    OP

    And a damn site more entertaining.

    I think I’ve done the HBA debate to death now, so I’ll end on the main point, the club should reveal what the big problem with him really is, at least that way the fans will have more information, they are too vague with everything these days.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #27

    Belfast,
    I’m not sure how good he is on Football Manager, but he looked very good when he was on loan in the Dutch league. Then again, Altidore looked good there too…..

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #28

    Transfer

    Spot on, only whispers and rumours come out the club thease days.

    Lilongate

    That would be far too sensible, you do realise its Ashley’s NUFC were talking about 😉

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  • Graeme

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #29

    Transfer @ 26 – now wouldn’t that be a novel idea. There is always a first time I guess!!!

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  • Belfast

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #30

    I know he did Lilongwe. That’s why I decided to keep an eye on him when he went to Stoke. He done ferk all there like.

    The dutch league is pretty poor to be honest.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #31

    Optimistic,
    I thought I’d try and take a leaf out of your book and be optimistic! Sadly, I fear that I may have to leave reality for it to be a possibility!

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #32

    Transfer, Pardew and the club’s daily lies are a world away from Kevin asking fans to trust him when we sold Andy Cole. Ferdinand then Shearer followed on.

    That’s one reason I hate Pardew. The lies. The others are being a blagger as a manager and his vile and egotistical personality.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #33

    Belfast,
    Yeah, the Dutch league makes average centre forwards look outstanding. Wijnhard, Kezman, Roy, Van Hooijdonk, Boogers etc the list goes on of players to come from the Dutch league and fail to replicate their form when hitting the onion bag.

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  • israeli_fan

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #34

    Greame from last post-

    you can hate ashley as much as you want, but you cant deny that we have the best value for money in the market.

    just compare our deals with other PL clubs- borini for 14m, shaw for 30m, long for 12m etc etc etc.

    even though i dont really care about the finances of the club as i supporting the team only on the field, i still prefer the club to operate like it does right now instead be like chelsea, city united or tottenham.

    the best model for me is arsenal.
    and if we finally buy that top CB and a striker (and maybe a new manager as well)- we might return to our glory days

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  • israeli_fan

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #35

    LG you are right, but what about van Nistelrooy, Bergkamp, Bony?

    for every Henry you have 5 Guivarch… its not about the nationality

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  • israeli_fan

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #36

    and a certain Suarez..

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  • Belfast

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #37

    Yeah it’s hit a miss really. There’s been a few good uns and a right few awful ones. Samaras and Alfonso Alves spring to mind.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #38

    Israeli,
    I never mentioned nationality, merely the league they played in. Bergkamp had a torrid time when he first left Holland. I agree some do replicate their form, but far more fail to match the success they had in the Dutch league.

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #39

    I mainly saw Gudietti in the Dutch league as a SMB pal of mine was convinced he was joining them.

    When I watched him he had good movement and was a really good finisher.

    The Dutch league isn’t the best but the do have some jems, everyone expects DeJong to be a hit.

    I only saw him play 20mins for Stoke and because their here nor there and are in a bit of a playing style reform it would be a bit harsh to judge him.

    I’d take him on a loan with a view to buy as I think that’s all the club would be willing to do. I don’t see us buying a 20 goal yr CF or a commanding CB.

    If we get anyone else it’ll be a fringe player from a big club on loan with a view to buy. And I’d be surprised if we even did that.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 18, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #40

    Belfast,
    Yeah, can’t believe I forgot Alves!! I’d always be wary signing a goalscorer based on what they did in the Dutch league. There are plenty that have gone to other European leagues and struggled as well.

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