Some New Newcastle Players Simply Trying Too Hard


It was a second successive game in which Newcastle looked a little toothless up front, but it was the second game in succession in which Newcastle controlled the second half, but we just couldn’t score.

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Mike Williamson – receiving his red card

With tow minutes to go in the game substitute Siem de Jong had a good chance to win the game for Newcastle but his shot was well saved by American goalkeeper Brad Guzan.

As if that wasn’t bad enough, Mike Williamson picked up his second yellow card of the game and was sent off and now will miss the game next Saturday at home to Crystal Palace, and there will be some pressure on Newcastle to win that game.

This is what Alan Pardew told Sky Sports after the game:

“I think a lot of the new offensive players are trying so hard and sometimes that isn’t the way to score goals.” “You need to have that super confidence.”

“We know we need to get some goals and hopefully at Gillingham on Tuesday, we can get a couple before we play Crystal Palace on Saturday, and get that one off us.”

“Obviously the last third today was not so good. I think a lot of the new offensive players are trying so hard and sometimes that isn’t the way to score goals.”

“But there was a lot of good play and a lot of good movement.” “I felt sorry for Willo, because I thought he was terrific in his distribution today and then he gets sent off.”

“Overall, to come to Villa and control the second half like we did, I’m pleased.”

Newcastle have played quite well in the first two games of the season, but there is disappointment we have picked up only one point, especially in a season when it’s very important we get off to a good start, after what happened earlier this year in the league.

Of course wins at Gillingham in the Capital One Cup on Tuesday night, and a home win next Saturday against Crystal Palace will soon raise the spirits on Tyneside.

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258 comments so far

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #1

    In our last 10 competitive games we’ve scored 4 goals. Three of them were against a same day relegated Cardiff side who were appalling.
    Highlighting zero goals in our first two games isn’t being unlucky. It is the norm

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  • Thump

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #2

    “terrific in his distribution”

    Aye, well when players are told to hoof it, they’ll do that.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #3

    On the list of poor excuses “Players trying too hard” is rather poor in all honesty.

    If we dominated the second half the way he claims then why not try two strikers instead of subbing one for the other?

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #4

    The rest of that quote by Pardew is laughable, shoulda put full lot on ed!

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  • Thump

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #5

    ffs man, JackButler. Do one with your talk of ‘tactics’ and ‘sense’.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #6

    Thump

    Sorry mate, I’ll just slope off shall I 🙁

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #7

    The Gunners are getting torn apart at Everton

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  • Thump

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #8

    Everybody knows the way to win a match is to have 11 players out of position and all of them set to defend. The less goals you concede, the more goals you win.

    (joking aside, I honestly wonder if this is how Pardew thinks)

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  • toon kk

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #9

    Watching Everton v ars, eve 1-0 up they’re streets ahead u us.

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  • toonking

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #10

    TADS52

    i think signing a striker on loan could be the best thing we ask for. i want a top striker signed permanently but if this FCB doesn’t insist on spending 15-20 on a quality striker we might as well just bring in a loan signing because atleast that will provide us with the striker we all want and unless it also has a clause stating permission to buy for a price, then we drop him onto the bench when cisse returns to full fittness.

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #11

    tads

    let’s face it the HBA situation is Pardews fault , if he is fit enough and not injured he should have been in the team ,

    your taking Pardews word about the whole HBA situation , well this is a fact , towards the end of last season , pardew said he did he could not pick HBA because he was injured , HBA held a press conference to announce he was fit,
    HBA is banished,
    the fact that pardew prefers saylor to mym is the reason mym was not there today,

    the fact that tiote is up for sale is the reason he is not playing, if he is not sold in time, he will suddenly become fit, the same way mym will be on the bench next week and will probably even play in the cup game

    what did you want from me, a full report on how each should play for 90 mins

    I picked the team which was 442, and said they should play higher up the pitch, it’s in black and white for all to see

    the only thing you could have picked me up on was I had sissoko in for collback which I changed in minutes,

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #12

    toonking

    Just looking at our squad and we already have four first team strikers, can you see us carrying five? as the only one who could be shipped out is out injured until mid-October

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  • stuart no9

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #13

    we wernt great, villa were worse. surprised how bad they were . a simple summimg up—— we must improve , and quick in the last 3rd. 3 chances – 3 miskicks, what waws willo doing , he is no alan shearer, he simply forgot he has a head, that would have won us a game that neither side deserved . Something is missing . is it confidence , composure , belief ?? i dont know but whatever it is , we need it, Palace next week is a cruncher , no goals next week could spell trouble for pards .

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #14

    catchy

    How do you know that the HBA situation is Pardew’s fault?

    I’m not fan of our manager but the fact is that HBA has been a nightmare at every clubs he’s played for

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  • bladeuser

    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #15

    Watching a football match where both teams r trying to score what a weird plan there respective managers must have telling there players to go out and try to score surely this is not football as the match i watched earlier that was not the plan seriously even everton r miles ahead of us never mind the top six

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  • davetoon

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #16

    all i was getting at in previous comments is that the fans and ashley are living like an estranged couple that arent going to part because of the kids.

    Thats why I got to thinking is there some olive branch that could be made between the 2 parties to get back to where we were when Ashley bought the club and was wearing Alan Smith’s shirt and necking beers with the fans.

    That may be a step too far for now but there must be some middle ground… I see the olive branch as Ashley spending big on a big name striker and also addressing in a public forum after the good news

    We can all dream

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  • Thump

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #17

    @JackButler: Almost every time Arfa played for us (in the last 10 minutes, when we’re 1-0 down, of course) Pardew slated him, saying that he should have been defending more. I think he lost Arfa’s respect and that’s what has caused it. HBA wasn’t the only one to question Pardew’s tactics in that dressing room blowout, if reports are to be believed, Cabaye and Colo had a go at him too. It might be six of one and half a dozen of the other, but we can all agree that Pardew shot first (may change depending on the release of the directors cut)

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  • toonking

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #18

    team for league cup game

    _____________krul
    riv____mbiwa_____saylor__had
    _________colback (C)__anita
    obatan_____SDJ_______sammy/arron
    _________perez

    this might seem like a weakened team but the main players i dropped are those who look the weakest. also maybe if these threats up front do great and score goals it can remind them who usually start games to start getting threats and scoring.

    bad management from pardew is one thing but if it’s so easy for a player to get himself on the starting 11 then he too can make life easy for himself michel owen ring any bells.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #19

    Thump

    HBA has always been a hard one to control and his fallout with Pardew is not surprising as he’s fallen out with just about every manager he’s played for, but people laying 100% of the blame at Pardew’s door when they base it on half-truth and third hand rumours is clutching at straw’s tbh.

    It is amazing that the way he’s thought of by some fans that there are no agents busting down the doors to end his nightmare under Pardew, or maybe he’s not all he’s made out to be???

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  • gazzaforever

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #20

    What a crap lineup, Toonking , not that I m surprised. Anita is average at best, Obertan is pooh, etc… pardew would be proud of , mate.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #21

    …and a coach that doesn’t try enough 😉 lol

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  • davetoon

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #22

    @catchy interested in your thoughts. do you think there is a way back for Ashley and the fans… Do you see common ground or do we have to go on with this sh!t for another 10 years?

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  • gazzaforever

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #23

    Jack Butler, I think it doesnt matter anymore who s fault is it, it s time to put Benny back in the team. Hes our best player and he s fit. Gouffran and Obertan are subs material at best.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #24

    Sick of Seein our striker being iscolated up front and think we need to go back to 4-3-3 if we want to “frettn” the goal :

    ——Sissoko——De Jong——Colback——

    ——–HBA——-Rivierre——-Cabella——

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  • toonking

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #25

    JB
    the thing about these striker we have got are they are not ones that will guarentee us those important goals.
    perez-the best hope of them all but he is still a very young one
    facundo-he might be ours but is actually only on a season long loan so why waste those wages on him rather than providing them to a quality striker.
    rivere- well he is 24 but looking at his stats he doesn’t look the player with goals in him 17 in 77 4 in 44 and 14 in 44 not the type i see lots of goals in plus this is a much harder league than those of his past.
    armstrong- again a very young one
    cisse well he is injured

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #26

    gazzaforever

    Putting HBA back in the side will not solve our problems as they are far bigger than what one player could solve. Plus it will never happen as Pardew will never allow HBA to play his natural game and HBA will never buy into Pardew’s game plan

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  • stuart no9

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #27

    in a good side with a good manager HBA woulnt have to defend,, he would simply be played in the position he was bought for and cause havoc. Pardew shouldnt have bought him , he is obviously not made for a defensive team with a defensive manager. I hope HBA stays coz i still think he has a future here when pardew eventually gets the boot back to the smoke . Another manager coming in would accomadate him with pleasure.

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  • toonking

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #28

    cisse
    siem de jong is a number 10 mate not a CM

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #29

    Jack, if someone was buying into Pardew’s game plan, it could also be deemed as a scam.

    Lovely by Everton there.

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  • bladeuser

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #30

    Sell hba or play him or his contract will run down this year and we will get nothing its simple but not to an air head like pardum

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #31

    Offside mind.

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #32

    Well for three years Pardew has spent four days of the week defencive training.

    How long until he tries something else?

    I talk to other fans of other teams all the time and when they talk about Pardew they laugh or smirk and the commen things they all say is, what did you’s do to deserve him or he’s crap etc.

    I’ve never heard any fan of any other team say anything positive about him or his football most think he’s a argonaut pr1ck and want rid of him and he doesn’t manage their team.

    I’ve even had mackems say they feel sorry for us with Pardew and Ashley in charge.

    If our nearest and bitterest rivals feel sorry for us what hope is there?

    They can’t be bothered to laugh or take the p cos they see how bad things are.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #33

    toonking

    The point is that the club are simply not going to offload a striker that they’ve just brought into the club are they!

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  • bladeuser

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #34

    2-0 everton players and manager know what they r doing

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #35

    Laurent Robert 32

    Agree mate, but he’s here long term and HBA is the only one who’s gonna lose that fight

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  • Thump

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #36

    @JackButler: Like I said, six of one, half a dozen of the other. I think part of the reason people are up in arms about HBA vs. Pardew is what it represents.

    We have Ben Arfa who represents everything we love in a player – quick, unpredictable, and capable of producing moments of genius from nowhere all while making it look easy, and then we have Pardew who will freeze hell over the day he tells the truth and lets himself be honest.

    So, boiling it all down we don’t have two egos clashing, we have a fight between boring (Pardew) and exciting (HBA).

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  • Mickalonius

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #37

    HBA – I think I must be wrong about him, HE IS A world beater, that’s why we have clubs queuing up to sign him…. Except…. Their seems to be very little interest even though he is last year of his contract. I wonder why ?

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #38

    Thought the reff had a decent game but if Willo gets sent off then N’zogbia should have walked as well .

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  • JackButler

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #39

    Thump

    Agree mate and there’s only ever gonna be one winner 🙁

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  • welshgeordie9

    Aug 23, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #40

    bladeuser

    Well they didn’t win last week

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