Pardew Hasn’t Managed This Player Well – Give Him A Chance

What Newcastle need in the team at the moment is a player who has loads of skill and can open up opposing defenses, and can also score one or two goals himself.

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Ben Arfa in action on Monday for the U21 side

In our first three games Newcastle have labored to score goals – very much like we did in the second half of last season – and we have scored just one goal in our first three games – and it was an own goal at that last night when we beat Gillingham 1-0.

And that description of a type of player Newcastle can do with right now, is actually already on the books,  and Hatem Ben Arfa showed his skills in the Newcastle Reserves 5-2 win against Reading on Monday, when he scored one terrific goal and set up two more.

Alan Pardew has fallen out with the player, who he says is simply not professional enough to be in the first team squad at the moment at Newcastle.

Certainly there is evidence from Ben Arfa’s  past that could be true, but it’s silly to keep Ben Arfa on the sidelines, when we need his mercurial skills on the field.

The measure of a manager or coach is how he can get the very best out of each of the players under his control, and Alan Pardew has hardly done a good job recently with Ben Arfa, who we know can often be a difficult player to manage.

We want to see both men meet and talk things through and bury the hatchet – as we mentioned a couple of days ago.

And news again in the Chronicle that isn’t too surprising, that Ben Arfa wants to stay at Newcastle and fight for his place in the team over the last year of his contract, and he has no intention of leaving the club by next Tuesday.

We know it’s not easy for managers these days, who have to deal with players who are earning more money than they are, but surely there is a solution to this problem – and it starts by the two men talking and trying to resolve their differences – for the sake of the club.

We cannot imagine Mike Ashley or Lee Charnley are very pleased with the current impasse between manager and player, but they will also not interfere and let Pardew do the job his way.

There’s nothing like some straight and truthful talking to get over many problems in this world – and we just hope that happens with Pardew and Ben Arfa – and sooner rather than later.

But we can also see both men digging in their heels for the season, which will probably mean Ben Arfa plays only in the Reserves, and as happened on Monday at Whitley Park,  we’ll see the fans  there to watch the 27 year-old play.

Surely Newcastle and Ben Arfa together can solve this problem, it’s not exactly about rocket science after all, but more about being stubborn.

Comments welcome.

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22 comments so far

  • jimmysmith

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Disagree……he’s over managed him if anything, and I’m sure he now regrets his wasted efforts.

  • Markaccus

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #2

    Well, thats me out for a while, because this debate will dominate the next three articles at least!!!

  • Ketsbaia9

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #3

    Ben Arfa should be playing.

  • ToonTiger

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #4

    Seen Everton’s latest signing?

    We need a new line leader. Jordan Rhodes although unproven could be the answer over achieved at every level so far recently. HG and right age – test Blackburns resolve if not Hull City will be better than us and I don’t want to believe that could happen.

  • giimps

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #5

    Yeah ,cos Fraudews professionalism is there for all to see.
    Fraudew out

  • skeptic

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #6

    Markaccus – More like the next 3 days worth.

  • Markaccus

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #7


    I do not disagree that Alderwiereld is a great player. I just seriously doubt he would end up here. He will be at Europa league club at least. If we pull off a mitacle we might be able to land him next summer (depending on where he is by then)

    I would love grenier to replace obertan in the squad. Thats like replacing a morrisons economy burger with a prime piece of fillet steak 😀

    Any prolific striker in for gutz

    I agree goofy should be used as more of a forward, either as a striker or as part of a 433. He is no good as a winger in a 442 or 4231.

  • 70TWO

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #8

    Although some players manage to play the majority of games during a season, generally they need a few weeks off here and there. We now seem to have more squad players that can be used without effecting the overall quality of the first team. As it is Cabellas and Siem DJs first season in the Premership I would expect they will need a break more than most and HBA will be the best possible replacement.

  • BeeGuy

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #9

    H B-A is just about the same as Obertan except he does not track back. Both get the ball & then start thinking about what they are going to do. H B-A is just a better finisher if he gets a chance. Those chances are fewer than Obertan generates.

    Pardue, like all the good managers, wants to win by conceding fewer goals. They can’t beat you if they cannot score argument. From that perspective, why play H B-A at all?

  • Go toon gooooo

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #10

    Ben Arfa is world class football player BUT he is not a magician.If Pardew makes 5 mistakes in the team how Ben Arfa can save him and supporters of this club.Ben Arfa can help but if I see Anita at current position(maybe right back position will safe his career),Dummet,Williamson in the first team and Sissoko up front even David Silva can’t save the game.

  • Ancientcoptic

    Aug 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #11

    Pardew cannot manage a corner or set piece, forget about Clairefontaine prodigy’s.

  • greekgeordie

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #12

    Ben is a great talent but needs to improve his way of thinking about football as a team.
    Pardew used him, up to last season, on a number of games but his Ego became so big that he felt that he is bigger than the club, with the help of part of the fans shouting his name when things go wrong.
    Pardew has to find a way to bring him back to the fold but only on the club’s terms, and this is down to Ben to work hard, keep his comments to himself, and mostly build the bridges up with his team mates, as there is a very strong feeling that he is not that popular in the dressing room.

  • arpeco19

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #13

    Bee Guy.

    Do you watch football at all? Ben Arfa just about the same as Obertan, except he doesn’t track back? WTF!!!!!! Can I ask two simple questions? When you watch Barcelona, do you see Messi track back, or is the team built around him? Do you see Ronaldo track back all the time at Madrid? My point being, We have a very gifted footballer at our club who is ATTACK MINDED, his talents shouldn’t be wasted running back to his own penalty area, then running up to the other penalty area!!!!!!!!!!! Pardews idea on football and seemingly yours is to build a team around Williamson hoofing the ball forward then take it from there. PARDEW OUT…..

  • stuart no9

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #14

    Regarding the pardew – bennie debate, one of them has to go , but where would pards get another job ?????

  • stuart no9

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #15

    Arpeco —- news this morning that messi could be on his way out of barca. 100,000fans put their vote into the club saying , if he doesn’t track back over the next couple of weeks , sell him to anybody who wants him , and they will consider making a big offer for the best striker,come winger,come defender,come midfielder,come goalie in the world. Not many about ,however,, messie might get his act together soon and defend, or he is being dropped to the Acadamy until someone makes an offer for him . Lazy ba….d eh ?..

  • arpeco19

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #16

    Stuart no9.

    Hahahaha exactly.. Good crack mate.

  • gazzaforever

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #17

    Markaccus , Grenier is Always injured.and I bet you didnt see him play not even once. You have Ben Arfa in the squad who is ten times better but you dont want to accept it, even if the like of you, Toonking , Manxpie, etc always come to comment when there is a post about Ben Arfa.

  • gazzaforever

    Aug 27, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #18

    Beeguy went full retard. Comparing Obertan with Benny LOL. Go watch another sport please.

  • murvar

    Aug 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #19

    Noooooooooooooooo! HBA is a total waste of space. He’s a distraction. Please stop putting up articles like this Ed – if we ignore the prima donna he might go away. Let’s focus on the players who are playing not the ones who aren’t.

  • Matthew Tom

    Aug 27, 2014 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #20

    You have to take Ben Arfa as he comes – a magical talent who will never learn to defend. We have had Ginola and Robert just the same before, and we loved them, it only seems to be Pardew who doesn’t.

    We have a couple of excellent young wingers (Cabella and Aarons) and Ben Arfa should be put right up front with De Jong, possibly with Cisse rotating now and again. Riviere seems woeful so far, and we should be demanding our most skilful players get on the pitch.

  • Premiership Manager

    Aug 27, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #21

    He’s been mismanaged by every manger who has tried his utmost to get the best out of him including previous French national managers so to blame Pardew when the player can’t be bothered to fit into the team plan is not on.

    HBA is a talent who’s own ego, personal ambitions and selfishness have let him down.

    There is no I in Team and it’s about time people stopped banging on about a player who clearly puts his own personal glory ahead of the team result and effort.

    The only reason we have had no firm offers for him is that all of the other managers both in England and France are aware of the negative impact he has on the dressing room and team effort.

    It’s time he went and if we receive a firm offer for £2-£3M we should cut our loses and let him go.

  • Sav

    Aug 28, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #22

    1. Pards has managed Beb Arfa well in the past – as you said yourself, Ed.
    2. Maybe this is actially good management – a kick up the derriere for our gallic genius to get in shape and try harder.
    3. Maybe pressuring Ben Arfa into seeking a transfer has come from Mashley and Charnley as the Gutierrez banishment appears to have originated from upstairs.
    4. Maybe we are better off without BenArfa’s frequent inconsistencies.
    5. Maybe its true that the rest of the squad has become seriously disenchanted with Ben Arfa and Pards is taking the only course not to have a mutiny on his hands.
    6. Maybe Pardew has come to the same conclusion as all Ben Arfa’s previous managers.
    7. Maybe if Ben Arfa is still here when the music stops on Tuesday night, Pardew will set about a re-integrating our gifted wild-card into the team for the rest of the season. Maybe this ostracising will be like an ice-bucket challenge to Ben Arfa. I hope so.


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