This Part Of Newcastle Just Doesn’t Work


We have often talked about the inability of Newcastle to bring though our youngsters to become first team players on Tyneside, and Newcastle are about to unload some of them initially on loan, when the Football League transfer window opens next week.

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Sammy Ameobi – time is up at Newcastle?

And it looks like each one of the players will also be available for a permanent move at the end of their loan periods, with the first opportunity to permanently sign for another club being in January.

It shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise that Shane Ferguson, Haris Vuckic and Sammy Ameobi are set to leave the club, and for whatever reason these once promising youngsters just haven’t made it at Newcastle .

It was a surprise to us that Newcastle are now willing to let Gael Bigirimana leave the club, after only two years on board.

But the news is Gael will also be sent out on loan initially, as will Remie Streete – the 19 year-old South Shields center-back – whom Newcastle had great hopes for only a short two years go.

And it looks like Adam Campbell’s time may be up on Tyneside, and only a year ago, we were hoping that the 19 year-old could come through for us last season.

In his loan spell at St. Mirren earlier this year Adam did not play well, and he is currently on loan at Fleetwood Town, where he has played four games (no goals) in his short-term loan spell.

One of Newcastle’s major strategies for producing players is through the Youth system, but so far over these last seven years, it has been something of a failure – and these six players now available for transfer and/or loan spells proves that.

To end this on a bright note, we do have two youngsters who (hopefully) appear to be the real deal in Rolando Aarons and Adam Armstrong.

And the six players mentioned above should look on the bright side, and the plight of Mehdi Abeid a year ago.

Mehdi’s Newcastle career also seemed to be over, but he stuck in at Panathinaikos last season and played great in Greece, and the 22 year-old is now firmly in the Newcastle first team squad and playing well.

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225 comments so far

  • croftus5678

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #1

    its not a failure its pretty good tbh !

    just because we let players go who arnt quite upto par doesnt mean we failed as there will be a hell of a lot that get dumped !

    arsenal was considered one of the best for youth yet look at the players they signed ! are they a failure ? and some of the youth that did play imo looked avg at best but does that mean they succeeded in youth by bringing in avg players ?

    we have hairdryer/dummett/arma/rolando/abied/good and even santon/perez to a degree who was bought in for the dev squad just like bigi was !

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  • lochinvar

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #2

    Abeid will come good as he has both grown up and bulked up from where he was a year or so ago so both his confidence and fitness are improved which are good qualities for the Premiership level. He had game time in Grease ( I can’t spell Panathinaikos) and is ready for game time here , whether or not Pardew can think like that I doubt it.

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  • Zambiantoon

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #3

    Gael and sammy I would say are very good players

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  • spitfire_

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #4

    How you can say for something who isn’t use that isn’t working? For example, in the second part of last season, the team fight for a sh!t and even so the young guns didn’t even smell the grass. Instead Gosling’s, Shola’s, LDJ’s played game after game and now where are they? This is called “stupidity”, not “weak youth system”.

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #5

    @3 zambiantoon

    i’d agree tbh esp on bigi who was awsome in back end of season for the youth (c%^p in first half though)and sammi has those flashes but reminds me of the way arfa is with his inconsistancy so i’m not 100% he will make it tbh.

    streete is another good lad and the most naturally phsyical for a cb but the team is right to loan them all out tbh as only competitive games will make or break the.

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  • giimps

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #6

    What about krull, Saylor, Strolla, …its not the club its the coaching staff of the 1st team, Beardsley has them playing well, Fraudew cant integrate 1 or 2 into the team as he always uses his favourites: apart from cup games when he throws 5 or 6 on with no plan and no formation and most of them playing out of position. This is why i think Fraudews job is under threat. Getting all the kids out when we have a small squad is potentially suicidal, a few injuries and no backup means were dicing with relegation under this incompetent buffoon and his dinosaur puppets

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  • Ethiotoon

    Sep 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #7

    I think the youngsters mentioned above all are good and should be given a chance.esp Sammy,bigi and
    streete.we did better than the previous years to be honest.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #8

    spitfire_
    September 7, 2014

    LDG has had a decent start for PSV in the correct position.

    He should never play in the hole like Pardew made him

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #9

    i think the development squad is doing better than it has in years where is falling down is game time in the first team and getting them decent loan spells

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #10

    Vuckic is too slow for this league but will make a better player in italy or spain. Sammy needs to bulk up and become a striker. Never a winger at this level. Ferguson is average but not good enough for this league. When players are good enough they shine through…see aarons! Streete has had injuries but not sure how good he is. Bigi is a championship player at best. Abeid I think has a chance but he needs to really impose himself on a game.

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  • Ethiotoon

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #11

    fuad
    Ldj is already flopped in Germany. can’t see that is the mgrs fault he look same old in BPL.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #12

    Can’t work out if this guy is A) a troll b) a WUM or C) a moron.
    Maybe all 3.

    looizallan // Sep 7, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Ye I’m sick of it all now. Seasons started. Pardews still manager. Get over it. I’m all for pardew and don’t really understand the negativity the past year or so. He’s passionate and cares for Newcastle. I hope he stays. Anyone who disagrees crack on with your comments about it. Just do it on another blog

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #13

    Looizallan,
    Never heard of him !

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  • spitfire_

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #14

    LGFUAD21

    By “and now where are they” I mean the fact they aren’t at our team right now. And even that Gosling and Shola was certain goners which everybody knows that last season, they still played week in week out… not the young guns.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #15

    Spitfire,
    So true about Gosling, Shola and LDJ.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #16

    I would Throw Pardew out and just make Beardsley the Head Coach, thats if he wants to take it on?

    One thing is certain though, Pardew is a crap trainer who has lost the support of most the Fans, and Ashley needs to act to replace him !

    The guy has no understanding of how to pick a team and his tactics are just not good enough? So much Talent and Potential wasted in the last two seasons!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #17

    Spitfire,
    I have to say it did baffle me why we started playing Gosling in the last few games when we knew he was going and he had barely played previously. I understand Shola as he had contributed throughout the season, so was just a continuation.

    As for our youth team failing, it fails after reaching 17/18. Has done for a long time now. I’m not sure how people can say that Beardsley and his development squad are doing well, they finished 2nd bottom last year, with 4 wins from 21 games. This season we are playing in the second tier after being relegated.

    We have consistently produced very good youth international players from 15 through to 18. After that they tend to fall away. This isn’t just a coaching issue, as some will fall away due to poor attitude, some are more physically developed at a young age, and drop away as others catch up. But coaching is certainly a factor, as is the loans, club connections and the way they are introduced to first team football.

    Of course we have had one or two success stories, but that is not overly impressive. The club do seem to have improved a bit, particularly in their willingness to loan players, but that came too late for some as they were already hitting an age where they should be breaking into our team/matchday squad.

    It was a cornerstone of the plan for Ashley, but he never got the best people involved to get it running properly, slight improvements, but nothing significant.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #18

    NewExpat,
    Beardsley the coach?? He is probably one of the few people in the professional game that has a worse record than Pardew managing a side in the last 20 games!!

    The man shouldn’t even be coaching. An incredible player, but not a good coach or manager. He should be working as an ambassador, or somewhere upstairs, rather than on the training ground.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #19

    I’d hate to see Beardsley in charge at this club, as there is only 1 way for his reputation and standing to go. He is already a legend with most fans at the club, if he took charge he would only tarnish that reputation.

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  • jayphoto

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #20

    Think Ameobi starting so many games last season ahead of LDJ, HBA etc yet when out of contract and on a free is only taken by a turkish second division side sums up Pardews management of newcastle united.

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  • Belfast

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #21

    None of them are premier league players.

    All average who’ll play out their careers in the lower leagues if they’re lucky.

    Check out the youngsters at Fulham for example, and compare them to ours.

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #22

    Fully agree Lil

    Said it many times myself mate, he just isn’t a coach or management material and I don’t like to criticise him but there has been numerous occasions where he’s danced along the party line never mind towed it and for someone who understands NUFC like him it’s disappointing to say the least. He should be in mike’s ear telling him what’s wrong but instead chooses to go along with the shenanigans!

    He’s had previous experience working upstairs and seemed to be pushed from one role to the next, then eventually to where he is now and let’s be honest, he’s not cut out for it.

    Not sure where he’d fit in tbh mate but i think he would of been a good shout for the role JFK was unfortunately appointed too. I think the role, due to having charnley as MD is now defunct isn’t it?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #23

    I think Pardew was desperatefor a win and went for experience which backfired spectacularly, he would have gained more respect by giving Armstrong and Bigi a bit more time, I wonder if he’s fallen out with Bigi as he really does seem to have fallen from grace.
    Lil,
    Beardsley as manager ???

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  • Belfast

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #24

    We also seem to be obsessed with tying these average young players down on good long term contracts, even though they’ve done nowt.

    That’s why you can’t get rid of them. No other kernts will pay them the same wage.

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  • valle

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #25

    I agree that Bearsley as coach would be a terrible a idea… You think AP is a yes man? Wait till you see PB in charge… Great player, but he shouldnt be allowed anywhere near the managers seat.

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  • Belfast

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #26

    Yeah Beardsley got lost in Mikeys rectum a long time ago.

    Bob Moncur seems to be stuck up there as well.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #27

    Jail,
    He manages our development side at the moment. They were a shambles all last season.

    AC,
    I am expecting him to be promoted from within by Ashley if Pardew goes. They are now apparently close friends, and he has, as you say, danced along the party line on a number of occasions.

    Belfast,
    Fulham have some great kinds coming through. Patrick Roberts is the pick of the bunch. I’d be keeping an eye on him this season, and then if Fulham don’t come back up making an approach next summer for him.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #28

    kids, not kinds….

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  • Belfast

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #29

    Think I remember somebody on here saying Beardsley walked out of an event in a huff, because people where saying bad words about Mikey. lol

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  • Belfast

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #30

    Aye think Real Madrid etc are after that kid Roberts

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #31

    Belfast,
    Yeah, I remember reading that somewhere as well.

    I think Beardsley is a win win for Ashley. Club legend, so will be given leeway by the fans, whilst at the same time quite happy not to rock the boat. He is like a combination of Keegan and Pardew for Ashley.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #32

    Belfast,
    Really?? Not sure he is that good from what I have seen! Also, chances of youngsters breaking through there are slim. That is why I’d already be working on persuading Jack Harper to come over here, not sure he will break into their forward line, and at 17 could easily come to us and be a great partner for Arma for years to come.

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #33

    In a poll conducted by the chronicle (I know) asking how satisfied we are with A) pardew. B) Ashley. C) Charnley.

    Over 5000 voted and the results are as follows:

    Pardew: 85% were not satisfied.

    Ashley: 80% were not satisfied.

    Charnley: 55% were not satisfied.

    Considering this was a decent chunk of people voting then I think it’s safe to say the majority of people aren’t happy with the way the club is run and managed.

    I just hope the abuse continues after the international break!

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #34

    Don’t we supposedly have a crop of better but younger players coming through. 16, 17, 18 yr olds, from the side that did quite well in the FA youth cup. Kemen, Satka, Armstrong and Aaron’s most prominent and not by chance. Isn’t this part of the Ashley directive, that is perhaps only now expected to really begin producing first team players. Its not so much this group of under 21s, but the next that is expected to produce and then thereafter. It would make a pleasant change, to bring through a first team player every couple of seasons and I think there’s some pressure from above for this to happen.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #35

    Jimmysmith,
    We have a young lad called Heaney, who by all accounts has everything to become a very good player. Already played for both Scotland and England youth teams. One to keep an eye out for in a few years time, think he is only 15 at the minute.

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  • Belfast

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #36

    Real Madrid and Barcelona scouts have both apparently been over to watch him along with the usual suspects Arsenal, Man United etc etc

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  • manxpie

    Sep 7, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #37

    Are these the same youngsters that get dogs abuse when they do play from fans or are only championship players (dummet sammi)
    Ya can’t have it both ways complain if they don’t play then abuse them when they do

    And rotonda I’m glad you don’t resort to childish abuse of other posters btw!!!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #38

    I wonder why Beardsley is so cosy with the regime where as a lot of ex players are so critical, it has to be the fact that he is getting well paid while living at home, Hartlepool wouldn’t pay so well.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 7, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #39

    Manxpie,
    You are distorting the truth, people are talking about the youngsters who haven’t been given much chance, I for one think Vukic and Sammi Ameobi have had all the chanced they are ever going to get and aren’t good enough.

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  • ToonMatt

    Sep 7, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #40

    The whole club is a mess from top to bottom and we will find out when we are relegated again that under Mike Ashley the club is going backwards, I just wish fans would stay away from home games and he might have sold the club.

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