This Dutchman Would Make A Good Manager At Newcastle


Frank de Boer was one of the greatest players that Holland has ever produced, and in his sparkling career the defender played 112 times with 13 goals for Holland, and has been manager of Ajax since 2010.

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Frank de Boer – current Ajax manager

Of course great players don’t always make great managers, and that’s because the requirements in the management job are different from being a player.

To be a good manager you need many skills like nerves of steel – it also helps to have good communications skills and leadership abilities, and it helps big time if you are good at handling people.

But Frank seems to be all of that that from what we can tell, and the 44 year-old has been very successful in his coaching career at Ajax – the Dutch giants – and he has just won his fourth successive Eredivisie title with Ajax.

He is the first manager to ever achieve that distinction in Holland, and since he won five Championships while a player at Ajax from 1988 through 19999 (432 appearances – 40 goals), Frank has won nine championships with Ajax, another record.

Frank was heavily linked with the Tottenham job over the summer, but that job finally went to former Argentine International center-back Mauricio Pochettino, the former Saints manager.

Frank has also referred to Tottenham, Liverpool and Newcastle as sleeping giants.

Speaking to NOS this summer, De Boer said the following:

“Spurs have made an approach. After the last league game I’ll think about it. I’ll talk to them and listen what they have to say. I see opportunities at Tottenham. Just as Liverpool and Newcastle, they are sleeping giants.”

“I want to add something to a club so that people can say that they see the hand of Frank de Boer. Liverpool is a good example of this. What Brendan Rodgers is doing there is an example for me.”

Since taking over the reins at Ajax from Martin Jol, De Boer has managed to make quite an impression, leading the Dutch side to three consecutive league titles. As a result, the 43-year old has been courted by a host of top clubs and could potentially do a good job at Tottenham, if indeed he does arrive.

If Alan Pardew is to be replaced – with the emphasis on if because hopefully we can pull away over the next few games and get some momentum going – then Frank could be a strong candidate.

What do you think?

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165 comments so far

  • GatesheadMag

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #1

    So would mourinho

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #2

    Whumpie

    are you telling me that in all of football there isn’t a coach , who would bite ashleys hand off for a chance to manage our great club.

    I for one don’t think he is a great owner, and only buys what is needed when its needed, but he on the whole, I think the club get good players for a good price,

    I think we have a man at the club responsible for finding these players, why not challeng him to fid the right coach to complement the players abilities , for me its 3 month 2 late, but im pretty sure there are plenty of good coaches coming to the end of contratcs with little compensation to pay,

    who would have looked at Mauricio Pochettino, he did not pull up any trees at espaniol , but he plays the game right,
    same goes for Ronald Koeman, his last 3 seasons have been decent , and seems to be doing quite well with a whole new team, as the old one was sold off, I watched the second half v Liverpool, Southampton were the better team in that half, and stats could support them being unlucky, 6 shots on target Liverpool only had 5

    if I had a say in it, none of the above names would get a look in not even Sherwood, we need to do our home work, and not go for a tried and tested “premier league experienced manager”

    stuart pearce for me, he demands respect, played at the very top, and has played for us,

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  • Zambiantoon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #3

    Pardew out

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #4

    Certainly would .

    Could teach our academy a thing or two as well .

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #5

    Catchy,
    Stuart Pearce?? I know Man City fans that would feel bad if he got the Man U job his reputation amongst them is so low!!

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  • The Leazus End

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #6

    got more chance of messi signing.
    Something is sadly wrong with newcastle from top to bottom i heard mike arsehole was upset with the palace game, well iff he had spent the millions he has made off us mug fans things would be slightly more possative ,instead we have the usual doom nd gloom,#
    i fear the worst this year sorry lads

    KEEP THE FAITH LOL

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #7

    lilon

    ????

    lol not sure what you are meaning

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  • ToonLynx

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #8

    De Boer could build upon a young team which can only get better! Plus can bring knowledge to help acadamy!
    Those who say that he wouldnt come work under ashley as no money available should remember that Ajax have spent very little on transfers.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #9

    Catchy,
    City fans thing he is an awful manager. Awful style, terrible with the players etc. One of my mates out here is a long time City fan, and he ranks the Pearce years as some of the worst football in his 30 years as a City fan.

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #10

    There’s more chance of Pardew going all season without blaming someone else for his ineptitude than de Boer coming here under Ashley.

    forget about it as it will never, never happen, so don’t torture yourselves

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  • martoon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #11

    catchy @2 – For once I fully agreed with your post until you got to Stuart Pearce – Please No! 🙁
    But as you say there would be plenty of managers willing to work under Ashley if it meant managing NUFC. I have to say I think this is all accademic – I think Pardew is going nowhere.

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  • spitfire_

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #12

    woulda coulda shoulda

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #13

    Stuart Pearce FFS

    Talk about scraping around the scrap heap of failed managers

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #14

    I vote

    Pardew OUT

    De Boer. IN

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #15

    Not a chance De Boer would come anytime soon.

    Firstly, it would require Ashley to pay off Pards and co as well as pay compensation for De Boer and any back room staff he wanted.

    Secondly, no manager would leave there job at this early stage of the season unless it was a serious step up (League 1 to Prem) or they were in danger of getting the boot anyway.

    This search can be narrowed down by discounting anyone currently working. That is unless we give Pardew till next summer, or at least Jan…

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #16

    Lilongwe

    Still think the best we could hope for under Ashley is Glenn Hoddle

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  • Whumpie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #17

    Catchy – I get your point – and agree with some of it.

    What I’m saying is that for every successful ‘diamond-in-the-rough’ manager there are a dozen failures who could easily make things a whole lot worse for NUFC. I’m saying that while I don’t like the status quo, until we can change the things that keep good managers away, I’d prefer to stick with the bad manager I know than roll the dice among the other shite ones.

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  • Whumpie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #18

    This article is exactly the kind of thing that pisses me off and feeds the “sack the manager and think later” brigade. Why the hell would this bloke come here? He’d have to take at least a 50% wage cut and give up working for his supportive, savvy owners to work for a bloke famed for three things: averice, bad football decisions and hanging employees out to dry when it suits.

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  • GatesheadMag

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #19

    Not sure wot to make of steve mcclaren, i dont particulary like how he comes across in interviews. Apart from the semi dutch speaking 1 of course. But you cant argue that hes done well at all his clubs.
    Dont know what chiles managers upto, but i liked his teams approach during world cup finals.

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  • Lost Plot

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #20

    I’m sure that Moyes is still Ashleys number one choice

    Pearce would be a canny inspiration with his knowledge of the youth squads (all english) due to his international transition

    And De Boer a maybe BUT a complete different kinda game in the Prem .. Look a Van Gal

    Like it or not, Beardsley is likely to be the scape goat if the inevatable sacking of Pards arises anytime soon

    He’ll be a yes man for the salary (remember its a job at the end of day) AND he a local hero that’ll get the backing if we winning AND nothing lost if he only anounced as interm until the BIG man picks a succsesor

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  • Whumpie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #21

    I wonder if the people who think we could get someone like De Boer are the same people who get shirty when we can’t sign top players?

    Reality check: our owner is a renowned shit of the first order of turds. Our club has been a soap op/sit com for years. While Ashley owns teh club, we just ain’t shopping at Waitrose, boys – it’s Aldi, with the occasional optimistic foray into Sainsbury’s.

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  • Bambams

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #22

    I dont think Pards will be sacked, ever by Ashley.
    I would not be surprised if Ashley leaves Pards where he is when he eventually sells up. Which I think will be either end of this season or next.
    Cant see ashley wanting to stay around more than two seasons more before he takes on Rangers and CL for the SD Arena……Its how he works and Pards 8 year contract protected his debt to Ash. New owner would have to pay it up to bring in new man.
    imo

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #23

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/toon-mad-pals-outraged-new-school-7733503

    Can’t even manage to get the cheap club shop tat right. What chance have we with the football?

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #24
  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #25

    Well Ed, we can dream can,t we ?

    This is just never going to happen as long as Mike Ashley is the Owner !

    In the first place, De Boer would never accept the way in which our Club does its business, and by that i mean selling off our best players in Mid-Season ! This policy can totally cock up a whole year as we saw when Cabaye went last January!

    In the second place, Our Franky would never us let his club where-ever he is trainer, sell off a player from any one position, before there is a definite replacement scouted to bring in to play in the position of the player sold.

    Having said that, this is more or less what Ajax did when they sold Daley Blind to Manure! Everyone here was expecting De Boer to quit and walk out, but credit to him he,s stayed put and the youth policy at Ajax has led to them bringing in one of their academy players to play in Daley Blind,s position !

    Something which we could also do, if we had a Trainer with the balls to take a chance on one of the players in the youth squad. Add to this Pardew,s handling of HBA which was just pig ignorant and stupid, Haten played a blinder for the reserves just before he left and was just ignored by Pardew when he picked his squads for the games played against Chrystal Palce and Gillingham !

    Ajax have lost a couple of games since Blind,s departure, but i mean Manure paid a lot to get Blind to Manure so that Ajax just could not turn them down? The fact that Van Gaal is the trainer had a lot to do with the deal done i believe?

    I for one, think Pardew,s position is untenable but i don,t believe for one minute that Ashley will replace him with anyone who is,nt a YES man, which De Boer certainly is not.

    Which basically leaves us up shit-creek without a paddle!

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #26

    agreed optimistic,

    De boer coming here would make me so happy and it would settle the mood with the fans

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #27

    Rumours i heard over the weekend. They may have been mentionrd before but here it is….

    Gates have been dropping steadily since before the end of last season, and if ashley starts losing too much, even he would look at changing the manager.

    We actually have had someone in france having some kind of prelim. talks with galtier.

    Dont shoot the messenger, these are just from someone who is a long time fan, and, while being fed up with Pardews tactics and excuses, doesnt hold him 100% responsible, so i doubt it’s wishful thinking and is probably at least true to what he has heard. Obv it could still be bovine excreta.

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #28

    I never thought I’d see the day a fellow geordie fan would say he liked MA as a businessman and for the person he is. Slank what on earth were you thinking when writing of your admiration for MA.

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #29

    Galtier would not be an improvement in all honesty, his football is negative and defensively minded, just like Pardew’s and he only try’s to nick a goal in the last twenty or thirty minutes.

    If Pardew is to go and it is a massive IF, there are far better options out there to Galtier

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #30

    newExpat

    you really don’t get the system at ajax, in your first para, you talk about how FDB would never accept the way the club does it’s business, we do exactly the same as what ajax do, we sell our best players for good money. And you say he’d never let a player go until he has a replacement from the scouts. mate, the scouts are always scouting for u21 players, ajax hardly if not ever buy in a ready made replacement, they always bring someone through from the youth academy.

    De Boer is not a yes man, but he’s a manager who likes to work in the conditions of building a club and still making the profit for the owner. I think de boer would love the idea of bringing the KK and SBR days back to newcastle. His knowledge and utilisation of the youth academy would work very well with ashley, his ability to develop youth players into top class players and sell them on for 15-20mil.

    this is what he said about us:
    “I see a perspective at Tottenham Hotspur, just as Liverpool and Newcastle United sometimes are, they are sleeping giants”
    “I want to add something to a club, so that people can see that this was the work of Frank de Boer. Liverpool is a great example of that. What Brendan Rodgers is doing now.”

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #31

    agreed jackbutler

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #32

    Jack

    I know nowt about Galtier. And if he is as you say another negatron then it may be pointless. Id rather have de boer but its probably dreaming.

    Like i say, just the craic i heard from the weekend.
    Mind, the same lad told the story about JFK trying to sign ferguson when we already own him, 3 days before it hit the news, so he might happen to hear certain things with truth in them.

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #33

    FDB would bring dutch totaal voetball to NUFC and he’d write himself in folk law at newcastle

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  • Whumpie

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #34

    Bambams: I wish you were right, but I see it very differently. Ashley won’t sell up as long as the club is avoiding relegation and losses at the same time. He may get into Rangers and try to get them into the CL, but he’ll keep NUFC as his main PL marketing vehicle.

    As long as we don’t get into Europe it all works – which is why he’ll stick to a manager who seems to put up with any amount of shite, and plays rather dull football to get results out of a cheaply assembled squad that are just good enough to keep us north of 18th.

    Sad days, but that’s how I see it. Why would Ashley sell? At the moment the club is going to pay back his loan, and then continue to provide an incredible amount of exposure for his SD empire. For absolutely nowt.

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #35

    JamesToon

    Ashley is not looking to build the club, he is simply looking to maintain our survival in the league so the money comes rolling in and thats the reason why an ambitious coach such as de Boer would never even be considered to come here.

    Until Ashley has gone we are looking at the bargain basement for both players and managers

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #36

    Markaccus

    He’s not regarded as a manager who plays good attacking football, rather one who sets his sides up to contain and hopefully nick a goal, basically he’s Pardew with a French and thats why he’s probably on Ashley’s radar, survive without progression

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #37

    Jack

    Basically, he shoulf be called Alain Pardeu then? 😀

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #38

    England tonight Yeee haaaa.

    People, can I get a motherchuffin “hell yeah”

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  • JackButler

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #39

    Markaccus

    😀

    Exactly mate

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #40

    A reminder to decent minded Toon fans as to who is Mr Tubbs -really.
    “More than three years have passed since the BBC broadcast an investigation into the work practices of Mike Ashley’s Sports Direct company in the Far East. Amongst other things, the programme showed employees in a factory in Laos working in especially oppressive conditions, earning 1 pound (English) per day for a 12-hour shift. In sapping heat, the employees were often folding and bagging clothes in areas with no air-conditioning. There was one air-conditioner in the building but it was being used to cool down the sewing machine rather than the workers. A telling image.

    Even if it’s all too typical to hear these types of stories in the clothing business (witness Penneys’ link to the building collapse in Bangladesh which killed hundreds earlier this week), the Sports Direct case was especially disturbing. Firstly, the owner of the factory openly admitted to reporters that the facility did not conform to the internationally-accepted SA8000 standard. That is a regulation which guarantees no child labour is used on the premises, and that workers are paid properly and not exploited. In effect, it is an attempt to ensure that people sewing shirts and boots in third world countries for pittances are given something approaching their basic human rights.

    Today, Sports Direct has a big blurb on its website proclaiming its interest in fair and ethical trade but back then its only response to the documentary was to declare it “inaccurate and misleading”. Perhaps Sports Direct changed their ways following the BBC’s embarrassing look into their affairs. Maybe they stopped using the factory involved, especially as the cameras caught workers putting on the “70 per cent off” stickers before the goods had even left the production line, proving that not all reductions in shops are what they seem to be.

    Whatever happened, we do know that the investigation by “Inside Out: North East and Cumbria” made a lot of Newcastle fans uneasy about the fact their club owner was involved in such an unseemly and seedy business.

    “Mike Ashley’s business methods outside of Newcastle United bring into question his ownership of the club,” wrote one irate Newcastle fan. “Sports Direct are believed to have employed labour that does not match international regulations or ethical standards. Whereas companies such as Nike list their suppliers publicly, Sports Direct do not. The reasons why are clear, those employed by Sports Direct have no respect for the international law that ensures minimum standards on labour, wages and conditions are met. He (Ashley) was able to personally make just short of £1 billion in one day when he floated Sports Direct, of which we are convinced none made its way back to his workers in Laos.”

    Extract from:-
    http://daveyhannigan.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/the-troubling-case-of-mike-ashley-and-the-gaa/

    I think scumbag is the most appropriate description of Tubbs – how any decent person admire him I just don’t know.

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