This Is The Disaster Scenario For Newcastle


Watching the game yesterday was very difficult for Newcastle fans,  as the lads put in a pathetic display right from the first whistle and we nearly gave up a stupid goal after about 25 seconds when Colo put a late pass back to goalkeeper Tim Krul who then smashed the ball against Shane Long, and it was only luck that the ball went just wide of the post and not into the goal.

So in that sense we made a better start than last time out when we were 1-0 down after that same short time period at home to Crystal Palace.

lee charnley pardew and ashley

Hey boss – can I keep my job?
This is Pardew, Ashley and Charnley before last season’s 4-0 thumping


But that was a warning of things to come, and we were two down after 19 minutes, and both goals from Pelle were due to poor defending and then in the second half Tim Krul and Mike Williamson managed to gift Southampton their third goal,  when each player left the other to get the ball – and Cork nipped in to put the ball into the back of the net.

The last goal in stoppage time was a stunner from Schneiderlin.

Newcastle still have a very porous defense, and it’s not that we haven’t known about that for some time – but we didn’t bring in another center-back in the transfer window, although some good ones were available – like Toby Alderweireld, who was in the Saints side yesterday.

Our defense just didn’t look good enough, and it’s not like we have other players to bring in – with Santon out for another couple of months – and Yanga-Mbiwa having been dispatched out on loan to Roma.

Newcastle also haven’t replaced Yohan Cabaye in the middle of the field, and we are still lacking creativity there – and some of the creative players we have brought in like Remy Cabella haven’t come through yet – and of course Siem de Jong is out injured until the new year.

We have already conceded 10 goals  during the first two games, and that’s an average of 2.5 goals a game and last season we averages 1.55 goals conceded  per game (59 goals in total) and the season before it was 1.79 goals/game – our worst ever in the Premier League when we conceded a 68 goals.

And the worry that we don’t have enough goalscorers in the side was confirmed yesterday, when we had two good chances to score but Fraser Forster produced an excellent save from Moussa Sissoko and then Riviere was nicely set up by Sissoko, but from 10 yards out he managed to scuff the ball past a post – and that was an embarrassing miss from  the Frenchmen.

But the problems we had in the second half of last season  don’t seem to have been fixed although we do have players like Perez, Armstrong, Aarons and of course De Jong who could come through for us this season.

It’s early days yet, but we are bottom of the league and Mike Ashley has to decide whether to keep Pardew on board for the game at home to Hull City next Saturday – a game we lost 3-2 last season.

If Pardew is still on board it’s going to be strange with Steve Bruce in the other dugout, and Steve is one who is being tipped as a candidate for the job, if Pardew is fired.

The Chronicle  is reporting Pardew will still be manager next Saturday, but don’t give any insight why they are reporting that – maybe it’s an opinion from Lee Ryder – but with only four games gone we would think that Alan will not be fired this week.

And if we win against Hull City – which looks a difficult task if we play anything like we did yesterday – Pardew will  not be sacked next week either.

But it’s getting hard to see how Alan can work his way back into the fans’ favour,  after we have just one win in our last 12 league games.

The terrible form of the second half of last season has continued into the season – and that was always going to be the disaster scenario.

We would love to see Frank de  Boer and his team come in from Ajax – but we doubt that will be a choice Mike Ashley will make – he wants somebody who is willing to work under (very) strict financial controls – and it would help if he isn’t an ambitious manager.

That’s not Frank de Boer.

What do you think?

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234 comments so far

  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #1

    Re post

    @Catchy

    But when does it happened? If this is true and if he already losed the DR, it was probably after Cab took the french leave ( or the “english leave” as we say in France! Ahah!).

    And if the board didn’t see that in proper time, it is unforgivable.

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  • Thump

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #2

    Does anybody else remember Souness’ face the game before he was sacked?

    Now look at Pardew’s face yesterday.

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  • JAMSHA(PARDEW SLAYER)

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #3

    so pardew will take charge of the team at hull game… so looks like he wont be sacked even we get relegate, if this was hughton, or any other manager he would have been sacked long ago at nufc

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #4

    Let’s say it clearly.

    Indeed, the new manager will not be an ambitious one, and we will struggle all the season to keep our place in this league.

    So it’s one year wasted if we’re successfull, two or maybe far much more if we aren’t.

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  • lukes26

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #5

    0 % chance Moyes is Newcastle’s next manager

    He’s under contract for 5 million a year at Man U still. He’s NOT giving that up to be manager of Newcastle’s ragtag group.

    No chance Ashley would pay it either

    Maybe we should take a look in the mirror and realize Pardew is the best we can do. Yeah, he’s not the best, but it’s better than being alone.

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  • msk21dec

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #6

    Ashley is improving training facility and got us category 1 status for academy.. why on earth cant he see that he hasnt got top coaches? He needs to invest in better coaches in youth system. and why hasnt he got coaches to help pardew like muelensteen or mike phelan etc? The more i think of it i think a good management set up ashley should go for is Terry Venables with Gary Neville as no2?

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #7

    Another mistake:

    If Ashley reallly consider firing Pard, he must do it before we play at home. Cause this is an explosive situation.

    Even if there’s no replacement right now, let’s roll on with Carver on the bench.

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  • msk21dec

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #8

    I want Pardew to be in charge against Hull just for the drama to see what happens lol.

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #9

    @msk

    Modern training facilities improve the selling price of a club…

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  • jameskwl

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #10

    We need to be mentally prepared for life in the championship again with the current management and team we have 🙁 very sad days indeed . Bring back Ben arfa after pardew leaves please

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #11

    Toonking

    Go back read my post I’m pretty sure no where does it say great coach!

    No way carver is but line I said he must have learned something from SBR

    Pardew and his coaches didn’t work elsewhere so why would they here?

    At the end of the day the manger tells his coaches how he wants them to play and directs they style. Put any coach in the world with Pardew and he’d still play same style and tactics.

    Why do I think that, because he plays the same style and tactic no matter what type of player is put in front of him.

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #12

    About this “bringing back Ben Arfa” ‘s thing, is it possible or just kind of a wish?

    I read it was year long loan deal, could it be cancelled in January?

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #13

    @O prime

    There’s some managers who do not interferre with the coach about the style of play.

    But i agree, clearly wasn’t the case of Pard.

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 14, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #14

    Msk

    The reason Ashley improved traing ground is because without grade one you aren’t allowed to coach youngsters under 18 maybe 16 can’t quite remember from a foreign country. Therefore no more grabbing cheap bairns from abroad.
    About money nowt to do with improving for the kids benefit.

    Niafron

    Who would you choose from France as manager? Realistically in your opinion.

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  • Thump

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #15

    @niafron: No, there’s no recall clause. When he comes back he’ll be out of contract unless a new manager comes in and offers him a new contract.

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  • posada

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #16

    There is a lot wrong at Newcastle and it has been like that for 7 long years.
    But, the issue right now is this. The players are not properly prepared for games. Crystal Palace. Didn’t start the game until we were 1-0 down, after 30 secs.
    International players suddenly unable to do the basics.
    Sorry, but that is down to the management and the coaching.
    The performance was totally pathetic.

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #17

    ” Pardew will not be sacked next week either”.
    My question is:How he will survive when players ignore him on the pitch and are determined to kick him out of the club?Who will play for him?The players are the same that played in the Southampton game.He must leave with his own personal decision-something that was necessary to happen at the end of the last season.

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #18

    Niafron while your here, what formation have France been using? And where has sissoko been deployed in it?

    I think it’s been here in a 4-3-3?

    4
    3 <—-
    3

    With sissoko being on the right of the middle 3? Is that right?

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #19

    Rotonda

    Check my post about Everton fans and moyes mate. I’ll try and dig it up for you.

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  • mecannylad

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #20

    If you have a seat in Block 1D in the Milburn stand for the Hull game….. be careful.
    I sense things getting out of hand with the risk of criminal trouble brewing. Keep some perspective for Gods sake.
    Please …. its the mis-management of our football club we are opposing …. not jihadi terrorists.

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  • NUFCJackW

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #21

    Pardew is the luckiest man alive atm. Honestly, what does he have to do to be sacked..

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #22

    Rotonda. Just for you mate.

    Moyes steadied the Everton ship and built the base that martinez currently works from. Yes he plays better football but without the base being in place he wouldn’t be able too.

    Contrary to recent reports of Everton fans not liking him and thinking he did a shit job, they do not think this and admit he did indeed build this base.

    They do not knock him. Obviously the odd fan will. They say they wouldn’t want him back of course but why would they when they now have a more progressive manager in martinez? Every Everton fan admits this, I know I live here, they’ve told me, heard it on radio phone-in’s and heard it in the workplace.

    Not saying I want him but he knows how to set teams up and plays to their strengths.

    Our current twat hasn’t got a clue how to do either.

    If pulis ever got the job I reckon I’d admit myself into some sort of institution from fear of self harming or hurting the people I love.

    Drastic I know but that’s the lowest of lows

    I’d wager some would be made up to see me incarcerated especially on this blog 😉

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #23

    @8

    thats just cruel lol you wouldnt put it past pards to manufacture a win against hull and then tell everyone we turned the corner haha

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #24

    I think it might have been interesting if any of the remaining pro Percy Brigade (aka the Legion of Dishour) actually came onto the blog with their thoughts about recent events – you know to offer their opinions in the process of a reasonable debate about the club.
    I therefore like to request that any of aforementioned Brigade come onto the blog to comment on the match yesterday and the ongoing press speculation.
    Here goes then.
    Where are ye ya bastards stop hiding like tarts.
    There, hopefully there might be a response.

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  • Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #25

    What’s the betting that Pardew scrapes a win vs Hull and he is deemed safe in his role by Ashley for the foreseeable?

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #26

    http://www.tynetime.com/2014/09/14/alan-pardew-knows-nearing-end-time-newcastle-united/

    Catchy

    This fella thinks he’s lost the dressing room to. Certainly seems like it but it must be some sort of record if he’s lost Janmatt Cabella Rivierre and Colback already.

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #27

    @Oprime

    If only we considered that last june…

    Gourcuff or Renard could have been fine managers, now they are training Algeria and Ivory Coast.

    About managers currently in charge in L1, those are the best in my opinion:

    -Willy Sagnol
    -Philippe Montanier
    – Marcello Bielsa
    -Jocelyn Gourvenec
    -Antoine Kombouaré
    -Roland Courbis
    -Claude Makélélé

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #28

    And Mister Tuff your usually so subtle 😉

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #29

    Mr tuff

    Leave them alone!
    There helping Pardew pack.

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  • AccyToon1

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #30

    I just want somebody to tighten the defence up, get the midfield passing and creating and strikers to score. Basically what P45DEW isn’t doing.

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  • niafron

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #31

    @Average contents

    Yes 4-3-3, but during the last game, Sissoko was used as a right winger.

    Probably cause Deschamps want someone to cover the right Flank with Debuchy being very offensive and Pogba lacking discipline in defense.

    And with Pogba becoming our key player, it could evolve in a 4-2-3-1.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #32

    I honestly think Pardew got the job after Mashers asked Dastardly who was that bloke that kept Charlton mid table for years.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #33

    Have a look man, he’s not playing players out of position, he is advertising them.

    He is being made to play them to carry on the step and stone structure regardless of position.

    The football is suffering.

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  • lochinvar

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #34

    Pardews favourite TV series is “Lost”.
    Carvers is ” The Great British Feck off ”
    Ashley’s favourite is ” The Clangers ”
    Fans – we’re all on ” The Magic Roundabout”

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #35

    tuffers
    regardless of pards’ shortcomings he wasnt helped by the fact that fatty undermined him something any replacement will be fully aware of so i dont think anyone should expect a top manager to be chomping at the bit to come here

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  • yo-yo

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #36

    Jail – from earlier

    Spreadsheet numbers would also have shown we shipped 50+ goals the 5th finish season. Our ageing CBs are not going to get better – though amazingly Willo improved enough to get on the team sheet regularly. And if managing people instead of numbers it was a no-brainer we needed two new quality CBs. But who can manage them well enough to stop the GA flood to a dribble ?

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  • posada

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #37

    Pullis for me. He would get them organised from day 1.
    All the players would have to train well and be properly prepared for games or they simply would not be considered for selection. Regardless of wages or reputation.
    That would cause a fall out straight away as some of them would not be able to do it or would simply not want to put the required effort into it.
    Curlyskiver would be straight off on another holiday for a start.

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  • lochinvar

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #38

    Carvers favourite TV show is ” The Great British Fake Off”
    Ashley’s is “The Clangers”
    Pardew’s is “Lost”

    Fans – we are all on ” The Magic Roundabout “

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #39

    Great little programme on about Seedorf’s career on Sky Sports 5 now.

    Football philosophies and Ajax etc.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 14, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #40

    wolfshead -god knows what will happen and who we’ll get if Percy gets the bullet.
    We had a debate some time ago about managers in the UK and generally it is the same bunch of managers who get fired then hired and so on. The same group on the managerial merrygo round.
    Breaking the mould and hiring possibly an unknown but competent person might be an alternative way to go.

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