Why Newcastle Should Be Doing Lots Of Planning Right Now


Newcastle have not made a good start to the season in the first four games,  and we are currently bottom of the league, tied with three other clubs – but of course we hit rock bottom because our goal difference is already -6,  and it looks like that figure will not be good for the third season running.

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Alan Pardew – will remain in control for Hull game

But there are at least a couple of things Newcastle should be doing right now:

  • Make sure that we contact some managers about their availability to manage Newcastle United in case we cannot pull out of this terrible slump  in form over the last couple of games, in which our defense has proved once again they are not good enough – and conceded seven goals.
    We will not hear anything about this – since it will be done with some stealth – but we cannot be like we were six years ago when we took far too long to replace Kevin Keegan after he left the club as manager.
    Vital points were lost waiting for a manager to come in – and it happened to be Joe Kinnear.
  • Meetings should be happening within the club as to who Newcastle can sign in the January transfer window,  and that should be done as a safety first measure. Obviously Graham Carr and his scouting team take the lead on this in terms of scouting players and working on  who could be available.
    We have a lot of unproven players in the team right now who have just come into the club, and it cannot be easy for them. There’s always a chance they will come through – so players like Daryl Janmaat, Jack Colback, Remy Cabella, Manu Riviere, Ayoze Perez and Rolando Aarons could all have come good before Christmas – and if that turns out to be true we may not have to bring many players in during the January window.
    We hope that’s what happens.

It’s still a mystery why we did not strengthen our defense in the summer, and not only that, but we ended up weakening the defense – just like we had weakened the side in January when we sold Yohan Cabaye and didn’t replace him.

We replaced the departed Mathieu Debuchy with Daryl Janmaat and that looked like a good move by the club, but then we allowed Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa to leave and therefore we were worse  off at the end of the window than we were at the beginning – as far as our defense was concerned.

That’s even more true when we heard that David Santon is out for a couple of months with his knee injury.

And as bad as the side were on Saturday on the south coast,  that was the best team we could field – and certainly the best defense we could field.

That’s what is so scary – it was our best team available on Saturday, and we were taken apart by Southampton – a club who lost their very best players over the summer.

We just have to do better, a lot better on Saturday – at home to Hull City.

We hope we can win, but to do that we cannot give any more stupid goals away.

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34 comments so far

  • gallowgateender73

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #1

    It’s fergies time no doubt about it cheerio

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  • Thump

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #2

    @Hatem: From the last thread, just be as polite and courteous as you can. Perhaps drop in how it’s going at Newcastle, make a joke about Pardew being under pressure, just keep it casual. Don’t go up to him with a notepad and a trilby with “press” card tucked under the ribbon.

    Interested in hearing what this ‘complication’ could be, though.

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  • firebug666

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #3

    HatemOrLoveHim

    Just two simple questions here.

    Does he intend to sell Newcastle?

    If yes When?

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  • midweek weekend

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #4

    I’m sorry but I just can’t see pardew getting the sack Christ what’s Ashley waiting for, how does one more game help he must go Ashley won’t sack his mate, and if he does then I’ll be shocked

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  • Thump

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #5

    @midweek: Remember, the initial report was “two games”. It was only on Thursday or Friday that they started saying “one game”.

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  • midweek weekend

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #6

    Fair play thump it’s just as you can understand were all feeling a bit down at the minute things couldn’t be worse at Newcastle atm but sure if we lose to hull, he really might be gone I guess we’ll just have to wait and see

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #7

    Tubbs is never going to reveal his future business plan re football clubs. He is clearly up to some dodgy dealing north of the border involving Rangers. He’ll not want any speculation at all as it will disrupt his crafty stealth dealings.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #8

    And the manager has talked about this week in training:

    “What we have to do is make sure that the work on the training ground is to a level.” “We were unlucky this week, we lost two big players to injury, we’ve had kind of mental blows all week – two early goals at the start of the game.”

    “It’s very, very difficult to bounce back from those blows and hopefully this week we’ll have a better week on the training ground and get ourselves a shape and a formula that’s going to get us a win.”

    “Well I’m just – you know – trying to do the job to the best of my ability.”

    Yet today you only saw fit to train for 2 hours?

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #9

    In short from what I have been told so far is that Ashley hate Pardew more than we do. He cannot get rid of him unless they come to an agreement re pardews contract as 1 specific part of it is the issue.

    Now Ashley has wanted to get rid of Pardew since the end of last season but this issue has stopped him. Although Ashley is currently deciding on whether or not to cut his losses if Pardew screws up against Hull. He is a businessman first off so he is in a bad spot.

    Pardew is 110% in charge against Hull but Ashley is currently trying to sort this contract out with him this week to get rid after Hull. Something that goes on before pardew even got the job.

    firebug666 – I will note that down
    Thump – Could point, I need to figure out exactly how to approach this

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  • gallowgateender73

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #10

    Odds on pardew to nut Ashley when he gets the sack:
    2:1

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #11

    GeordieoftheSouth – Yes this issue is the only reason why Pardew has not been sacked since May! All i am going to say for now is he is one slimy t**t if what I have been told is true.

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #12

    It doesn’t really matter what Ashley thinks of pardew. The fans will always get what they want. And it’s only a matter of time before we force him out and to the point he has to resign he has no other choice.

    Why would he wanna manage a team where the Owner/Player/Fans hate him?

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #13

    Kevy – yes that is true but at this moment in time it is impossible for Pardew to resign (which is why he has not done so) and it is very difficult for Ashley to sack him.

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #14

    @Hatemorlovehm somehow I find what your saying untrue. He can easyly be bought out of his contract just like how it could have been terminated when he head butt david Myler. But yet he got Ashley’s backing then just like now.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #15

    Pardew won’t resign. He’s too thick for that. He’ll stay and relegate us. The chants all don’t matter to him. He doesn’t care.

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  • Rainrix

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #16

    Did anyone go down to benton to fight carver then? Just shows how ridiculous our club is when i type that and its a genuine question rather than a joke.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 15, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #17

    @rainrix

    I certainly hope so. Our club is a laughing stock.

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  • Thump

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #18

    @weekend: Nah, I understand mate. I’m hoping that something will change and he’ll be sacked before the Hull game. That said, if he gets sacked after the Hull game, I’m okay with that too; as long as the bugger is sacked.

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #19

    Kevy – Like I said I cant disclose everything right now but no he cannot be bought out of his contract right now otherwise he would have gone in May.

    Ashley and Pardew go way back and a part of the contract will make the sacking very expensive and Ashley wants to get a big name manager in who will cost lots so will be a very expensive swap.

    However like i said they are currently negotiating on a plan for Pardew to leave. Does that make any sense?

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  • mecannylad

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #20

    The trouble is that when you are desperate for some news its easy to be sucked in by any Tom, Dick or Hatem.
    Come on lads; whistleblowers don’t do their business via blogs ….

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  • firebug666

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #21

    If there is going to be a conspiracy theory here I would like to add.

    1. Derek Lambeeze negotiated the eight year contracts.
    2. It’s rumoured that Pardew owed money to the casino Lambeeze was manager off.
    3. Lambeeze sticks a clause in Pardew’s contract to ensure the debt to the casino is paid in full.
    4. Ashley discovers said clause and arranges JFK to oust Lambeeze.
    5. Lambeeze ousted, Ashley gets his marra JFK to resign.
    6. Ashley tries to renegotiate Pardew’s contract.

    Ahh well is sounded better as a thought.

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #22

    @Hatem it sort of makes sense but that doesn’t make it true bud. Suppose we’ll just hada take you word for it.

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #23

    Fabricio go and kick Pardew out of the club with your slow step.That is not very hard to do.When he has no brain to leave the club already,when owner who destroyed Pardew with selling of Cabaye does not sack him,and apparently fans doesn’t have enough impact,THEN players will finish him.End of the story.

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  • lochinvar

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #24

    Only conclusion is that Ashley maybe doesn’t want to rock the boat with any prospective buyer of the club – although you would think that the results and the antics of both Pardew and Carver on the touchline have already done that !
    Maybe selling the club inclusive of Pardew gets Ashley off the hook – Pardews contract might not be so watertight if the club is sold or Ashley leaves it up to new owners as to what decisions they make. Just wonder if the American Group allegedly considering Spurs for £400million might just be looking at NUFC for £250million ? The American connection has been flouted before and we know that Ashley has connections “over there, over there, send the word, send the word over there, that the Yanks are coming…” etc etc

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #25

    We are now favorites for relegation together with Leicester.

    Well done Sir Alan Pardew.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #26

    Hatemorlovehim, thanks for sharing that. Please keep us updated. We need some transparency in all this.

    My questions would be

    *Will you put the club up for sale at a reasonable price?

    * and if a new manager comes in can the appointment please be made with a manager who has an attacking philosophy, plays a good style of football and has experience of being successful. Will he speak with Carr about it?

    * Mention Frank De Boer as an up and coming manager! 4 championships and plays nice football.

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #27

    This video of Thomas Vermaelen trying to get his motor into the nu camp is funny as fcuk. Scraping the lamp posts and everything haha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHukD_R4K4A

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #28

    mecannylad – funny lad. Sorry if you dont believe me I cant force you.
    firebug666 – mate I cant believe how close you are. It might sound stupid but honestly you are very close with that! Just a few parts missed out but seriously this thing is wey deeper than people think.

    Also Ashley is not looking to sell right now. You can rule that one out

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #29

    Kevy – I get your point mate and thats fine im just passing on what I am hearing from those closest to Ashley.

    Laurent robert 32 – No problem mate I will keep you posted and will word out something with everyones questions to ask him. I have already written down Frank De Boer.

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #30

    You can’t disclose anything then say firebugs near enough on the money?

    Turn it in mate lol.

    I know we’re desperate lads n lasses but fcuk me! 😀

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #31

    Cant you read mate? I said hes close yes but there are some point which are missing which I cant disclose.

    I cant believe some of you guys to be honest. Just trying to give you guys information that it is not as it seems and I get grief?

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  • firebug666

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #32

    HatemOrLoveHim

    So the reason runs deeper than a casino debt?

    I understand you cannot say anything yet mate, but to give us a little bit and leave us hanging tut tut. lol

    I get the crux of it now though. Lambias has included a clause in his mates contract (Pardew) to protect his 8 years at Newcastle, and that is the reason Lambias was shipped out. We do not know the full contents of the clause only that it is protecting Pardew from the sack, as it would cost Ashley too much money, And Pardew cannot resign for a similar reason?

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  • Zambiantoon

    Sep 15, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #33

    Ashley and pardew are mates so its hard for fatty to give his clown the sack. They been mates from fattys casino days.

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  • c-dog

    Sep 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #34

    If he leaves, Riviere, Gouffran, Williamson & Anita should go with him. Poor work there from Graham Carr.

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