The Chronicle is reporting that a group of Newcastle United supporters will protest during Saturday’s league match against Hull City – so the atmosphere will certainly not be conducive to Newcastle winning the game – but maybe that’s the point.
Alan Pardew – protests against him on Saturday during game
We have mentioned before how similar the situation is at Newcastle these days, to what it was after Kevin Keegan was fired – and in those days we had protests before the game against Mike Ashley – with Ashley Out banners – and Mike put the club up for sale.
It’s the people who remain anonymous but are behind the website SackPardew.com saying they will have multiple banners out during the game on Saturday.
So we shouldn’t blame Alan Pardew if he is never seen on the touchline on Saturday, whatever happens during the game.
He was criticized for that at St. Mary’s – but it would have been a lot worse if he had come out onto the touchline – because that would have ignited the fans’ protests even more.
It’s going to be interesting to see if stewards allow the banners into the ground on Saturday – although the group say they are small enough to be hidden.
This will do nothing to help the players play anywhere near their best on Saturday, especially when we have so many new players to the club trying to get to grips with things.
This is what the group have told the Chronicle:
“We have 200 banners, similar in size to the ones you saw at Southampton on Saturday, that are currently being completed at printers around the city.”
“They are small enough to conceal so we can get them into the stadium, but we don’t want to go down that road.” “We have contacted the club to let them know our plans and are still waiting to hear back from them.”
“The Hatem Ben Arfa banner (Che Guevara banner) at the Crystal Palace match was ours.” “The club gave us permission as long as it wasn’t offensive and that we had a fire safety certificate, which we have for all 200 banners.”
“We have also let the police and council know our plans. We want this to be peaceful and well-organised.” “We are trying to do something different.”
“A lot has happened under the Mike Ashley era, but we’ve always felt that whenever there was a protest, the personalities involved sidelined what it was about in the first place.”
“We believe remaining anonymous will help us make more of an impact.”
So there you have it.
We think this could backfire big time, because if there are protests and banners all over the ground on Saturday – Mike Ashley – being the contrarian he is – could keep Pardew on as manager – even if we lose the game.
And of course losing the game now looks more likely.
Maybe the protests could take place before and/or after the game – and be as effective without impacting the players – because make no mistake our players will be negatively impacted by this.
But maybe I’m simply missing the point.
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31 comments so far
sweendog
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Comment #1http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/09/shocking-news-newcastle-midfielder-diagnosed-testicular-cancer/ .. best of luck to jonas
nufc786
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Comment #2Oooooooooh Gutierrez
from Buenos Aires
he’s Spiderman
he’s our super hero playing on the left or right
wearing black n white
he is f dynamite
oooooh Gutierrez
nufc786
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:17 PM
Comment #3Thoughts with gutierrez…
hopefully a few chants for him during the hull game
sweendog
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM
Comment #4not a nice response from Pardew too.
Average_Contents
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:19 PM
Comment #5Belfast echoing again I see.
toonarmydownsouth
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:19 PM
Comment #6786
Good times
http://youtu.be/G0DW4YWc0nM
dazzler
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:19 PM
Comment #7Is the timing of the Jonas news odd? I mean it is extremely sad, if true and my thoughts are with him but it seems very conveniently timed when I think about it. Not to mention the wording that suggests Pards showed no compassion to him. I wonder where this information has come from, as if Jonas wanted it made public why hasn’t he said something himself before.
Thump
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM
Comment #8TO ALL THOSE GOING TO THE GAME THIS SATURDAY
On the 18th minute, start singing, clapping, scream your f’ing loudest for Jonas. Sing his song, let him know he’s loved and that we’re all with him.
sweendog
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:20 PM
Comment #9toonarmydownsouth .. excellent
toonarmydownsouth
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Comment #10dazzler
Not really sure what your getting at
Toon Tang
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Comment #11Bang on Thump, indeed.
Will have to take a break from abusing Pards at some point anyways eh hahaa
nufc786
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Comment #12toonarmydownsouth
hopefully 50,000 of us will sing for gutierrez as Thump has just posted… 18th minute one voice…. all together
sweendog
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Comment #13dazzler .. its all over the web .. source was tycsports .. http://tn.com.ar/deportes/esencial/la-lucha-de-jonas-gutierrez-me-extirparon-el-testiculo-izquierdo-porque-me-detectaron-un-cancer_531981
toonarmydownsouth
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM
Comment #14Thump
Well said
By all means protest against Pardew, but let’s show support for one of our own, something’s are bigger than football
Thump
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM
Comment #15@dazzler: Because he found out he had testicular cancer and decided that it’s something he wanted to deal with by himself…?
It’s not a conspiracy, it’s Jonas stepping out of the limelight and taking time to look after himself. I can’t blame him.
Thump
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:24 PM
Comment #16Bang on nufc786. If you’re not at the ground, stand outside and sing it! Why not?!
sweendog
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:25 PM
Comment #17thump .. well said … 18th minute .. gonna be some cauldron on sat.
Hubris
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:25 PM
Comment #18Iantoon,
I didn’t really want to go back to this.
Can I point out that I had read and digested the article several hours before you posted it, so you weren’t drawing anything to my attention.
Shall we take just one of the arguments David puts forward in his article: “No-one ever left Sports Direct feeling they had been ripped off.”
Leaving aside how exactly this speaks to the question of Ashley’s fitness to run Newcastle United, it does pose the question of what his sources for this claim are.
It is a very basic journalistic tenet. Even for an award-laden journalist.
What professional or (one can’t help wondering) personal experience does he bring to bear?
I can vouch for at least one experience of my own that proves his sweeping statement is simply wrong and entirely unsupportable. Perhaps he has never heard of the Sports Direct mug, or wondered why the staff didn’t mention that they were charging for that carrier bag they offered?
The article is full of similar unsupported assertions.
And just being David Walsh doesn’t make them true.
However, I sense that you are in that period of life when you have access to the most precocious insights and a corresponding lack of grace. So I will leave it at this.
dazzler
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:29 PM
Comment #19Thump that’s not what I’m getting at. if Jonas wanted privacy, (and I agree who can blame him?) why is it only now we find out? The same week the fans turn on Pardew completely, and the wording of the statement suggests pardew was a complete kunt about it. It’s all conveniently timed.
Regardless of that it’s horrific to have that happen to anyone, and Jonas always has given everything for the shirt, and deserves to be treated with the love and respect he has most definitely earned and I hope between all the inevitable animosity that will surround the hull match, Jonas will be given a moment of thought.
Average_Contents
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:30 PM
Comment #20It’s all getting tied with a nice bow isn’t it eh?
It was last season that the colo rumours started out with him arguing with hba and annoyed he walked back into the team (quite ironic considering colo does it on a monthly basis) then there was the supposed dinner with fatty leading us to believe he has some sort of sway or is a “power player” add them together and what do we have?
Colo ousted benny and runs the dressing room, holds team briefings AND has a say in tactics/formations.
Like I said gift wrapped with a twist!
Also similar is the casino loan which has been bandied around for ages but this time with the twist being, money up front.
Gift wrapped again!
Anyone else getting a theme?
Surely a whiff?
God help us all
nufc786
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM
Comment #21Thump
let jonas know the toon army will be with him…
regardless of all those issue forget pardew forget ashley
dazzler
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:32 PM
Comment #22Ac
If colo is picking the tactics he needs to go before pardew does.
Hubris
Sep 16, 2014 at 10:35 PM
Comment #23nufc786
I had been wondering about the timing of this announcement.
Your response was one of the possible ways a cynic might answer that question.
magoo
Sep 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM
Comment #24Thanks for the info Ed, please keep up the reporting & if you are going to give an opinion I would recommend you start using ‘I’ not ‘we’. I and the vast majority (it would appear) dont agree with your personal stance on the current situation. thanks again
Our Toon
Sep 16, 2014 at 11:28 PM
Comment #25Break from pards abuse on 17th and 18th mins
These should be used to show support for Alder & Sweeney 17th minute and 18th minute clap and chant for Jonas….All season long
wynsleap
Sep 16, 2014 at 11:45 PM
Comment #26Why should it backfire Ed?
What would you rather us do – just sit there and take all the c**p being thrown at us from The Gruesome Twosome?
If anybody hasn’t got the bottle for the fight against this poisonous regime I suggest they stay away on Saturday and
eave it to the fans who really care about the welfare and future of this wonderful club.
I think we’re all at the crossroads with this lot. A BIG push is needed by all fans before we all go under.
wynsleap
Sep 16, 2014 at 11:47 PM
Comment #27Sorry – leave it to….
lesh
Sep 17, 2014 at 12:40 AM
Comment #28Worrying that the idea that the addressing the club’s plight be left to the fans who really care about the welfare and future of ‘this wonderful club’.
Whilst the situation’s not good at the moment, demonstrating in this way can only lead to relegation. There’s no way that Ashley’ll take fright and be rid of Pardew. In fact it’ll probably lead to him stiffening his resolve to retain Pardew.
A relegation would cost Newcastle United dearly but Ashley’ll ride it and let the club’s finances go into free fall and lead it to insolvency.
Is that what the demonstrators want? It must surely occur to the folk behind these protests that Newcastle United means nothing to Ashley and if he takes the hit, he’ll take tge hit.
Even if Pardew were to resign tomorrow, do they honestly think that Ashley’ll recruit a good manager? Will he bollocks! We’ll have a repeat of the post Keegan debacle with JFK or someone of that ilk being brought in. Is that what these guys want? If not, it’s as sure as hell that that’s what they’ll get.
Call the fcuking thing off, put the bed-sheets back in the airing cupboard and get behind the team, raise the lads’ morale and spur them on to a good win. Getting up the league will hasten Ashley’s departure whereas relegation will lead to a disaster.
Doing otherwise will put not one but several nails into its coffin – is that what the radicals want?
Accept the fact that Ashley owns the club and he’ll do with it as he sees fit, whether that’s good or bad.
Sorry guys, but we’re stuck with him (and Pardew) until he decides to move on.
Think long and hard about the consequenses of demonstrating, as Ed says, it could backfire and backfire in a big way.
funguswatty
Sep 17, 2014 at 9:01 AM
Comment #29Ashley wants him to walk #Clueless one wants the sack so it a stand off sounds like MA wants him gone now as much as us so he ,s letting him face the fans Saturday hoping he crumbles and goes
Roger
Sep 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM
Comment #30I not only want to see 300 Banners in our Stadium
i also want to hear you People chanting
Pardew out from the first until the last whistle.
Ericles
Sep 18, 2014 at 6:47 AM
Comment #31You are missing the point. Sadly, going by the quality of its contributions, has deteriorated badly over time into a teeny bopper chat room compared to other sites. Sad.