Manager Takes Responsibility – Explains Horror Show


Even Alan Pardew knows that he must be close to the sack at Newcastle,  if he cannot get some good results on the board in the next game or two – particularly the next game against Hull at home on Saturday.

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Alan Pardew – getting close to the sack

The 53 year-old Londoner has been close to the sack at least a couple of times before – first when we struggled against relegation eighteen months ago – and then again in the summer when we lost seven of our last eight games and fell apart half way through last season.

This is what Alan Pardew has said about the horror show on Saturday on the south coast:

“I think as a group, and individually, we’re better than we showed, and I take responsibility for that,” “It’s a heavy defeat when we were looking for so much more.”

“It was a typical performance when we come here,” “We didn’t start great, and they had pressure before that first goal. They got that goal and then it was always going to be uphill for us.”

“The second goal was an error and a bit of fortune on their part, and then you really have got a battle. It was a tough day to take.” “We had two injuries this week that were particular blows mentally to us,” said Pardew.

“To then concede two goals like that, it’s very, very difficult to dig yourself out. After 20 minutes, I thought we regrouped. We were better, and I think at that point we needed a break.”

“Moussa Sissoko had a great chance, and unfortunately it didn’t go in, and we really needed that.” “It was that time of the game that we needed to score, and we had a good bit of pressure.”

“Second half, again we conceded a bad goal and then the game was gone.”  “Then it really was about damage limitation really.”

We were hopeless in last season’s game at Southampton, but something happened we didn’t expect last Saturday – we were even worse this time around – and it was really hard to watch – a real horror show.

Just how long Mike Ashley will let this thing go on for is a very good question, but we think another defeat on Saturday at home against Hull – a side we should be able to beat – could force the owner to call time on Pardew’s tenure at the club.

And if that happens we hope Newcastle have done their homework,  and have a good manager already lined up to try to pull Newcastle out of this terrible form we have been in all this year. 😀

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270 comments so far

  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #1

    Lil/firebug

    Pardew has given up. Its rubbing off on the players. They gave up last season and its carried on. Yes, they should certainly be more professional about it, but i think that the ones who have been here longer have had almost all the fight kicked out of them. For right or wrong, we need to change that somehow. And we are pretty much agreed on that ‘somehow’

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #2

    Damage limitation? 4-0?

    Erm. Ok.

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #3

    This bloke gets more chances than Nile Ranger and is as endearing to the fans.

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #4

    Rotonda

    HatemOrLoveHim posted it last night. Now, it may or may not be true, but I at least believe HE thinks its true, and isnt deliberately lying to us. He claims to know the two brothers who own fila and the clothing compant lotto, who are his source on this. He said they have no reason to lie, but accepts there is always the chance it isnt true. It DEFINITELY seems plausible, and like you say explains a hell of a lot. I just hope there is at least some truth in ot.

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #5

    OP

    Which one of them would you leave in a room with all your expensive electrical items? 😀

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #6

    Hatemorlovehim, thanks for posting all that last night/this morning. Much appreciated for the share of knowledge.

    Looking forward to hearing the bit about M’Biwa, Colo and Hatem.

    It’s funny, I’ve used the words slimer and slime-ball for a while, and there’s more confirmation from you that his is indeed a slime-ball.

    If you find out more about new manager updates then let us know and I’ll slam a couple of bets on.

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  • firebug666

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #7

    So the inept one shoulders blame in one breath, then cites injuries as mentally damaging the team.

    What the hell did he say to the players to switch them off before the game kicked off?

    This idiot needs to look at the timetable for flights back to the smoke, come 5pm Saturday he may need to have a fast getaway.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #8

    Ed

    sad reality is he’s never been close to the sack.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #9

    Markaccus,
    Yeah, Pardew will have had an effect on the players fight, and getting hammered regularly won’t help, but they are the ones on the pitch and if they put a shift in we wouldn’t roll over quite so easily.

    Pardew is a terrible manager. This group of players are displaying a worrying lack of personal and professional pride, as well as any sort of feeling of responsibility to those who travelled to St Mary’s from Newcastle. Ashley is a tight fisted slug. Carver is an overly emotional neanderthal. Stone is, well, about as much use as a stone.

    The whole lot of them should be embarrassed to pick up their pay cheque, but none of them really care less.

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  • sweendog

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #10

    poor manager .. poor tactician .. get out

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #11

    lil

    how many really professional footballers do you think there really is out there

    not man in my opinion

    and I agree, effort is the least they should give,

    what I would have liked is for pardew to fine them all a weeks wages including himself and give that back to the fans that went down there

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #12

    fiirebug

    Typical AP, he cosmetically accepts responsibility and then trots out an endless excuse list again!!!

    pardew cites SDJ and Aarons as injuries but in pardew’s system, if you can call it one, SDJ was invisible when he did play and Aarons is just a wild card kid at the moment

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #13

    Lilongwe

    a couple of threads back I think you posted that you read that pards and the coaches were not impressed with what we had bought
    not sure I agree on pards he even tried to take credit by thanking himself if he was not happy he is media savvy enough not to do that but if you can find it I would like to read it
    you do some coaching don’t you?. what you opinion on iur buys jaalmat for me stands out but I wont pass any judgment on riviere till the lad gets some support, cabella shown some nice stuff on the whole I am happy with the buys

    hatam man from last night thanks but can we have the rest please

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #14

    Lil

    a fair appraisal. Hopefully Hatems post is true, and they will be gone by this time next week.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #15

    Lilo

    We have all seen teams play when they have lost confidence in the manager, and that wasn’t it. That was lacklustre, lazy, insipid, gutless and effortless.
    – – – – – – – – – – –

    And the difference is…..?

    They stopped playing for him a long time ago.

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #16

    Catchy

    Plenty other clubs refund away fans for poor showings,so i wonder why we cant. Oh thats right, the owner is a miser and pardew is convinced it was the fans to blame anyway. Maybe they expect fans to take out a Wonha loan? It all stinks.

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  • spitfire_

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #17

    There is only one way for a manager to take responsibility – to resign. And since pardew didn’t do that, he takes sh!t.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #18

    One quick point which doesn’t make Hatem’s version any less true as they are distributors, so could still have contact with Ashley. But the Batra group do not own Fila or Lotto, they just own distribution rights in the UK and Ireland through their subsidiary company Future Brands.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #19

    Thanks M

    I missed his post but the gist of it is AP got paid up front – correct ?

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #20

    Morning gents, just a quick one to Markaccus as I just read your post, i think you might have missed the point I made at the bottom that if they do not come to an agreement then he will stay UNLESS Ashley decides to cut his losses and once again the slimy one will get his way. I said that Ashley is meeting with him so they can sort out the debt owed then they are gone even if he wins against Hull. I don’t know how close they are to an agreement as the brothers don’t know either so can’t comment mate but I’m bloody hoping it’s soon.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #21

    Plus, that’s more talk from hatemorlovehim that a lot more players have challenged Parduce for his mega turd tactics and coaching. On top of the ones who have said it publicly.

    The faster he’s gone the better.

    Saturday’s atmosphere will be something else. We will be ‘Riders of the storm’.

    ‘There’s a (footballer) killer on the road
    His brain is squirmin’ like a toad…’

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  • firebug666

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #22

    catchy in norway

    I think they should split their wages between the poor fans who made the trip down there and back. If anyone earned any wages that day it was the fans.

    Rotonda heights

    Spot on mate, you could be forgiven for not even knowing we signed SDJ for all the use he was in his one bit part so far. If the inept one gets dumped the Aarons will be an excellent player for us, If the inept one stays I’m afraid Aarons will be another Sammy Ameobi in a couple of years.

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #24

    markaccus

    were all looking for a reason why Ashley has sot sacked pards and hatams piece answers all the questions

    it is possible it true but then it could be a good old piece for jackanory

    but it make some sense I do think there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than we all now

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #25

    Rotonda,
    The difference is players can stop playing for a manager, but still play for their own pride, and put in effort, even if not in context of the team or game plan. Ours didn’t even do that.

    Beer,
    Yeah, I do coaching and did some professional scouting for a bit a while back. Janmaat looks decent, Cabella will need time to adjust. De Jong will take time to get used to a much faster paced game, which he may struggle with. Rivi just doesn’t cut it for me, and I highly doubt he ever will. Smacks of a panic buy as we hadn’t got a centre forward in, and none of our targets looked likely. Haven’t seen anything of Ferrerya.

    I’m pretty sure what I read was in the Independent yesterday. I don’t know how much truth is in it, but I’d certainly agree that none of the centre forwards are good enough so far. If Ferrerya isn’t fit yet, then what the hell is actually going on?? Far more likely he just doesn’t look any good by this stage. He was mainly a sub in the Ukraine.

    Catchy,
    Totally agree, the club should dock pay and refund fans who went down. They won’t, but they should.

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #26

    hatem

    when will you post the colo part

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  • Markaccus

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #29

    Hatem

    Ah right, cheers. I also hope its bloody soon too! These pillocks need to sort this sh1t out once and for all. I don’t even care if Pardew does get his way, as long as it’s not as manager. He is no good.

    Rotonda

    Yrah thats about the size of it. The up front payment has made him ALMOST unsackable (as yet) and also impossible to resign. Only at the toon, eh!?

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #30

    The time the players had of effort was a while back. This was beyond that point. Where players are far to too disillusioned and sick of it already.

    What kind of effect does it have on them when they’re putting effort in over a number of games but are still getting hammered? Their minds are in the gutter. Just like Pardull’s style of play.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #31

    HAtem,
    The first link is from just 2 months ago mate, saying they have bought distributing rights. I’m not saying it make your news untrue, as it makes it highly likely that they would have meetings lined up with Sports retailers since acquiring the rights.

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  • Hubris

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #32

    iantoon from earlier,

    David is an investigative journalist. The article you posted was not a piece of investigative journalism, as he (and anyone who knows about these things) would explain to you.
    It was an opinion piece. You present it as the former rather than the latter. Are are you arguing that because he helped to expose Lance Armstrong his opinion of Mike Ashley is therefore infallible?

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #33

    Hatemorlove you’re welcome to dive straight into the M’Biwa, Colo and Benny story if you will?

    Eager ears ‘n’ all…

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #34

    Lilongwe

    all the players we bought should have been bought in slowly due to the nature of our league compared to where they all came from

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #35

    Hatem

    I’m intrigued by the Colo story mate as I’ve said for a long time now that he is apart of the cancerous group.

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  • why oh why

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #36

    well hatem if he does go and god willing he will .
    I still want fdb or as thre previous headline tim Sherwood , would for me be a good choice with big les no 2. tim is a young mgr with ideas and ahs a grasp on the present game he aint outdated like big useless sam

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  • optimistic prime

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #37

    Mark

    The only electrical item I’d leave them with is my antique electric chair, unfortunately there’s a water leak where I keep it 😉

    What have I missed, brothers?

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #38

    What doesn’t make sense to me is that if part of the pardews contract has been paid upfront then surely sacking him means that MA would have to pay less compensation?

    Has anyone asked themselves that? Whenever a manager is sacked they get paid whatever the contract remaining was worth, let’s say pards had 4 years contract paid up, by sacking him MA only needs to pay for the 4 years remaining which is less compensation than if he hadn’t paid him upfront. Why is that an obstacle?

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  • HatemOrLoveHim

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #39

    Lil
    yeah sure mate not taking offence its fine 🙂

    To the others I am currently driving down to Brighton so on phone so cant type out others yet. Patience ladfs 🙂

    Ourtoon your right about that buddy

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #40

    Beer, blending them in slowly should probably work better, but they let all the players go at once so it wasn’t really an option I guess.

    Look how well Koeman had his new players integrated already. He had more as well I believe? And one more away than us on internationals. He’s a new manager as well.

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