Pardew – The Worry Is How Many Goals Can We Score?


Alan Pardew seems to be getting a quick dose of reality,  as he has obviously reviewed the tapes of the game at Southampton last Saturday, when not only were Newcastle powder puff up front, but our defense was leaking goals – and looked far too porous and uncertain against the Saints.

Alan Pardew Villa Park

Alan Pardew – will face protests on Saturday

Alan will be giving his press conference tomorrow and it looks like he has spoken to the press after refusing to meet with them after the humiliation on Saturday.

This is what Alan has said:

“This is a time to stand up and deliver,” “Saturday’s an important game for us because we’ve had a difficult start.”

“Southampton was tough to take,” “As a group and individually we’re better than that and I take responsibility. It was a heavy defeat. It was a tough day for our fans, a tough day for the team and, certainly, a tough day for me.”

“The worry is how many goals are we going to score?” . “We’re aware of that. We need to find a formula which will get us some goals. We’ve spoken about how important making a good start against Hull is because that’s something we haven’t been doing.”

“We have to make sure we start well.” “The two injuries last week to Aarons and De Jong were blows, particularly mentally,” 

Newcastle have been dealt a couple of severe injury blows in the last week, with the long term injury to Siem de Jong and wonder-kid Rolando Aarons is out for about another five weeks with his hamstring injury.

The very worst thing that can happen on Saturday is that we go behind in the game early – because that would open the doors for the protests against the manager to go into full force.

If that happens it will be very difficult for our players to come back – but no doubt they will be told before the game that they must be strong mentally, and that a win is still possible.

Of course the best thing is that we will score first (somehow),  and that will give our lads the confidence to even go on and win the game – which seems unlikely at the moment.

And if our new players thought playing for Newcastle was going to be easy, they will have learned quickly it is not – especially when things are not going well.

You need to be mentally strong to be a success on Tyneside – that’s always been true.

The lads have a chance to prove they have that mental strength on Saturday, and produce something the fans can support – big time.

Howay The Lads!!

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83 comments so far

  • WestOzMag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #1

    The worry is how many goals were not going to score and how many goals were going to leak you nugget! PARDEWOUT

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #2

    @Edd all this talk about winning

    Do you’s not get the bigger picture? The fact is we have to have faith that if we lose pardew will be pushed out. It’s better for the club in the long run.

    What would you prefer to win against hull and pardews job to be safe and go on another losing streak or to lose vs hull get this clown out of the club and start to rebuild playing some proper footy and take the club forward.

    I for one and praying hull does us 6-0 and the pardew chants and Ben Arfa chants completely rock the stadium.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #3

    Manx – I certainly commented about them not releasing a statement -in the context of others already having done so -even the Mackems did an early press release as well as other football clubs and individuals.
    The tardiness of the Toons release suggests poor communication with the potential that they only did it because others had.
    Charnleys comments do not suggest they had been in touch with Jonas at all :-
    “We have and will continue to offer Jonas our full support.”
    Can only be read as 1.we have offered support & 2 we will continue to do so.
    nothing about being in touch/contact with him at all.
    Another self inflicted gaffe.

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:10 AM

    Comment #4

    Steve Bruce the man to show Alan Pardew the door, you couldn’t make it up.

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #5

    tuff the other clubs have reacted to media a very natural thing to do and well done them

    our club which has kept the privacy which jonas has said himself was very important to him to not release a statement at the time of the media boom is also very important and to suggest the club didn’t know about it is ludicrous even by your standards
    you say poor communications i say a well communicated release with the most important person in this story

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #6

    But the statement released by the club doesn’t tally with the quotes I’ve read in the press attributed to Jonas, though does it.

    So something is awry, as is most often the case.

    Having said that, the club has been exemplary regarding our two lost comrades, so it’ll be interesting to see how this one unfolds.

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #7

    tuff

    “I spoke to the club and said because of the delicate nature of the problem and because in Argentina I was going to understand everything being told to me better, I wanted to be treated in Argentina.”

    yeah no support there at all and that was only from the man himself!!!

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  • kevymartins

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:21 AM

    Comment #8

    @Manx I read that while the media was spouting stuff about Jonas was training with a new club (Lee ryder I believe it was) He was actually in chemo and the club had agreed to pay his wages for the remainder of his contract regardless and they where very supportive.

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #9

    tuff so there was no contact then or being in touch?

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #10

    manx — you posted :-
    “……to suggest the club didn’t know about it is ludicrous even by your standards”.

    What the hell are you talking about now – didn’t know about what???????????????
    and whatever it was were did I suggest the club didn’t know about it???????????????
    Your moving into that area of invention again.

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #11

    kevy careful now that makes total sense 🙂
    the fact the club and certain players have respected his obvious need for privacy on this matter is being turned around to beat them with is i’ll say again a disgrace

    and the same people lap up the media who are worse

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:31 AM

    Comment #12

    Manx – you need to read things a bit nmore carefully.
    There is no evidence that is in the public arena that the club were in contact with Jonas. We would hope there had been -they may well have done -but we have no evidence of that from Jonas -along the lines of “the club have been very good and have kept in touch offering support or Percy has rang up a couple of times asking how I was”. – or such scenarios.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM

    Comment #13

    For F’s sake – its got nowt to do with maintaining privacy of his condition -we’re talking about, well I’m talking about a release from the club in response to Jonas going public.

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #14

    tuff neither was there any saying the opposite so the abuse of the club was wrong and to suggest otherwise is also wrong

    how can you have a go at something without any hard facts??

    the facts are he has been allowed to have treatment in argentina on full pay without any release on the private matter on his illness

    thats a hell of alot better than you or i could ever dream off or many many cancer sufferers so to hammer the club for such reasons is disgraceful which was my point i was making!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    Comment #15

    manx – how can you come out supporting something without any hard facts.
    Do you not see the point I’m making -if you cannot I can only assume you’ve been on the White Lightening.(again)

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:51 AM

    Comment #16

    tuff if the club has held his privacy this long and has only just got through to him to ask him if they could make a statement since they are his official club why is that not acceptable, very probable i don’t know but
    to suggest anything else without facts is wrong simple as that especially abusive conspiricy crap!

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:53 AM

    Comment #17

    tuff so its alright to abuse the club without facts then?

    that is my point ffs!!!!!!!

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #18

    The best outcome is Pardew gets replaced with a progressive young manager with his own coaching set up and Ashley backs him in the January transfer window……yeah right!

    Best realistic option, Pardew limps over the line in January, and we sign the centre back and centre forward we need, six months too late and Newcastle stumble along as always.

    If he’d simply delivered on his promise to put in twenty mill a year of his own money, we’d be far, far better off. It’s not as if he’d be flushing it down the toilet. There are great gains to be made by he, the club and his other companies by doing so, and really with 4 billion quids worth of personal wealth, what’s it to him. Just plain willfully stubborn I think.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 18, 2014 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #19

    Manx – I explained the points about medical data under the Data Protection Act earlier on today and data in the public domain. If you are interested check it out as I do not want to go over it again. On that note I’m away to the pit!

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  • manxpie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 2:09 AM

    Comment #20

    here’s my 1st post

    manxpie // Sep 17, 2014 at 11:44 PM

    thoughts are with guti shocking to hear about and i’ll be checkin me balls from now on i actually thought you were ok after about 25 or so obviously not!

    but i will say people jumping on the club about the statement and saying other clubs and people have all reacted is rubbish
    they have no communication with him wat so ever so are reacting to the media news where as the club obviously do and has, and actually respected his obvious wanted privacy even after the media claimed that it was about the contract and all that carry on plus he was training and fit enough to play after the operation and had been told it hadn’t spread at the time he was told to look for another club which a hell of alot of you were happy about at the time btw so all this jumping on the club is disgusting tbh
    and certainly not needed at this time

    that was my point tuff people who critisize abusively without knowing any facts (just have a look at twitter to see how abusive it got!)

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  • expatmag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 2:11 AM

    Comment #21

    TUFF/MANX

    Lets be honest here, neither of your arguments can be substantiated unless you were privy to what goes on in the corridors of power at the club.

    Neither of you are so both your arguments are heresay.

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  • toonicle

    Sep 18, 2014 at 2:14 AM

    Comment #22

    I thought he might go a whole statement without making an excuse, but there it was at the end. How silly of me.

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  • expatmag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 2:17 AM

    Comment #23

    JIMMY

    judging by the attitude/persona projected by the manager and coaching staff at Southampton, I think they all know they are about to be replaced.

    I still have a gut feeling it will be McLaren and I think he would be a good appointment. I wouldnt mind seeing a potential young experienced manager as his assistant, being groomed to take over in a couple of years with McLaren pushed upstairs as Director of Football. Lee Clark would fit the bill

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  • WestOzMag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 3:25 AM

    Comment #24

    Expatmag
    Mclaren’s record in england
    Middlesbrough 12 June 2001 11 May 2006 250G 97W 60D 93L 38.80%
    Nott Forest 13 June 2011 Oct13 2011
    13G 3W 7L 23.08%
    Not doing to bad at Derby atm but is he as good a Pardew? Marginally.
    Anybody who accepts a managerial job at NUFC is up against it. With a dictatorship ruling that Ashley is running I cant see how we will be club that every NUFC fan will be happy supporting.

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  • count

    Sep 18, 2014 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #25

    Give it a rest Tuff. You’re talking sh!te.

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  • Magpies4Life

    Sep 18, 2014 at 4:13 AM

    Comment #26

    Tuff – Shut the hell up. You are oozing nonsense. Manx is right.

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  • Pottz

    Sep 18, 2014 at 4:38 AM

    Comment #27

    So Mbiwa got some playing time in the Champions League last night.

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  • Ethiotoon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 4:56 AM

    Comment #28

    I think we should change our formation to 4-4-2,
    play Goufran upfront with Reviere.If cisse is fit,replace Goufran with cisse:it’s a must win,
    krul
    jan. will. colo. haida
    disco. tiot. colb. cab
    Revy. cisse/gouf

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  • expatmag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 5:07 AM

    Comment #29

    Westoz

    I am basing my opinion on McLaren through three major areas where I believe his expertise would fit a manager profile under the current regime.

    1..He has a fairly decent record as a manager in England and an even better record as assistant to SAF at MU.

    2..He has a very good record as a manager/coach in europe having won titles and coached in the CL and the Europa League. This experience would be useful witjh the number of foreign players on our books.

    3..Wherever he gas been, he has had to manage with a very limited budget and has a decent record in bringing young players into the senior side.

    I know people will point to his period as England manager but that is a totally different ball game to the day to day running of club football.

    I like his style of play and watching Derby since he has been there has shown what a good young side he is building there with very limited resources.

    I would much prefer him to the likes of Moyes Pulus Lennon and Bruce.

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  • expatmag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 5:08 AM

    Comment #30

    TUFF

    Thats you told mate……lol

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  • thai-mag

    Sep 18, 2014 at 5:17 AM

    Comment #31

    It doesn’t matter how many goals we score we will always concede more the other end

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  • nut meg

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:02 AM

    Comment #32

    thai mag
    exactly, that’s why we must shore up that huge gaping gap at the heart of our so called defence. That should be a priority for any new manager / coach coming in.

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:16 AM

    Comment #33

    All the world is against Pardew.Only he isn’t against himself.Good personal choice theoretically but very weak in practice.I hope this kind of human being never step into Newcastle United again.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:20 AM

    Comment #34

    WestOz/Expat,
    I think McLaren is a good coach, but from the evidence I have seen he doesn’t seem to cope when he is under pressure, or in the spotlight. I think he would be excellent coming in as part of a coaching staff or as a number 2, but would worry with him as the main man in charge.

    I think that is the right idea and way to go though. Someone who has earned there stripes as a coach primarily. I still would prefer Paul Clement or Gary White personally. Both very good coaches with very different backgrounds.

    For me, the only sensible way to go is with someone who has proved they can coach and develop players, not necessarily a manager as such. We don’t need someone who will be involved in all the decisions on a day to day basis. We need someone who can develop the players he is given, and get the best from them, essentially, a coach, or head coach.

    If the club want further input on day to day and signings, then go for a seasoned DoF. Someone who knows the game and is respected within the game, but the club seem to be happy with Carr and Charnley doing that side of things predominantly.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:24 AM

    Comment #35

    LG,
    I haven’t had a go at the clubs dealing of Jonas situation at all but reading NUFC.coms latest update raises a few eyebrows.

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  • kakaobi

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:33 AM

    Comment #36

    Basic football is to score goals and not consider 4 games into the season and our manager is worried about both a manager of a PL side ha makes a mockery of everything. If Pardew can’t get the basics right then he fas to go

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:40 AM

    Comment #37

    Jail,
    I think it is difficult to really tell what is going on here. Pedro (I think) one of our resident South American bloggers cmd on and said that the Argentine media were saying that Newcastle have acted badly in all this.

    Honestly, it is difficult to say given what evidence we have. Just that alone is a worry though, as in a situation like this there shouldn’t be grey areas, we should be able to tell from the quotes and the club statement, as well as everything else that has gone on that the club have helped him through in any and every way they can.

    The fact it isn’t glaringly obvious is in itself a bit damning.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 18, 2014 at 6:41 AM

    Comment #38

    cmd?? came

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  • nut meg

    Sep 18, 2014 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #39

    Lilo
    If it were your choice would you consider bringing both GW & PC into the club for them to sort it out from top to bottom….academy to first? Just a thought.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 18, 2014 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #40

    LG,
    I agree, what’s your views on the protest on Saturday, I can see a little bit on the side of John Anderson when he said it’s no good just turning up to have a go at the manager, why he got so angry about it, I don’t know, but where do we draw the line, by not protesting it basically saying give him more time, which a) he doesn’t deserve and b) we can’t afford, anybody in their right mind who thinks a quiet protest can be achieved while we sing the Blaydon races for 90 minutes as Hull attack from the start, are living on a different, the anger him and his boss have stirred is beyond turning back.
    Did you read that article hubris, posted last night, it’s a thread or two back around the post number 15 area.

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