Why Getting A Good Manager To Newcastle Could Be Difficult


If Alan Pardew is sacked in the next week or two, maybe even after the game this Saturday if Newcastle lose again, we’ll be holding our breath to see who Mike Ashley brings in to run the club.

frank de boer

Frank de Boer – would he want to come?
Would Mike Ashley want him to come?


The Newcastle manager used to be a plum job, but that may no longer be the case with Mike Ashley as the owner, where a top half finish and no threat of relegation is looked on as being a successful season in Mike Ashley’s eyes.

So apart from Newcastle now having limited ambitions – which was never the case when Freddy Shepherd was running the club – the Newcastle manager also has to work under some tight financial restrictions.

With Mike Ashley in charge we have never gone out and paid big bucks for a top player, but rather we have scouted the French leagues, and to a lesser extent the German and Dutch leagues.

The remit of Chief Scout Graham Carr has been to spot younger players, who have the potential to become good or even great players.

But when we do hit the jackpot and get a potentially great player, like we did with Demba Ba, Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy – they are quickly sold – often half way through the season, as long as Newcastle pocket the money.

Money is more important than the team at Newcastle these days – fact.

Newcastle United have become a selling club, and we can no longer offer top players European football or even promise them European football in the near future.

Some top managers who would want more control on who comes and goes at Newcastle, may therefore not be inclined to apply for the Newcastle job, if it becomes available.

Here’s the voting we have for the next Newcastle manager.

Who Should Be Newcastle's Next Manager

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But in the poll are no managers who already have jobs (apart from St Etienne manager Christophe Galtier), and other managers may be available such as Steve Bruce or even Ajax manager Frank de Boer.

We would be happy enough if Newcastle got David Moyes or Roberto di Matteo through the door, but our number one choice would be Dutchman Frank de Boer, who referred to Newcastle United as a sleeping giant when he was linked with the Spurs job over the summer.

Frank may be too ambitious to fit the manager profile Mike Ashley would be looking for – and that’s what’s so sad about the current owner.

He’s just not ambitious enough to own Newcastle United – very sad but very true.

But to try to end this on a positive note, after we talked earlier today about it being better to be positive then the alternative – here’s a little exercise for you.

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Close your eyes, relax, and then think about next Thursday afternoon, and by that time Alan Pardew has been sacked (we lost against Hull), and it’s been announced that Frank de Boer has been appointed as the new Newcastle manager.

In his very first press conference he has just said he wants to restore Newcastle United to the its former glories, and the team under him will play in the style of Kevin Keegan’s Entertainers of the 1990s.

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How would you feel about that? 😀

Howay The Lads!!

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183 comments so far

  • firebug666

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #1

    None of the above.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #2

    Pardew has always been on the back foot at this club. Fans curbed it for 5th season. Seemed 50/50 relation season.

    I vehemently dislike the man and want him to leave but I get the feeling from the numerous “go back down south” and “cockney mafia” cries that this support will only settle for a Geordie or FDB

    We all know how well that worked with shearer who shows he is equally as tactically inept as parclue week on week on national tv.

    My thoughts on Ashley. He has a lot to answer for but he has always been on the back foot since keegan. Ashley made his mistakes and even admitted in a statement near the beginning of pardews range he did but has been crucified for everything since. Blame does lie at his door but let me out a spin on things:

    Renaming stadium to showcase naming rights for sale:

    Arsenal a a self-sufficient club they did the same with their move to emirates. If he was just trying to get free advertising for sd why did he then sell the rights to Wonga on the cheap in full knowledge they would rename the stadium st James.

    Appointing Pardew:

    Stated that they wanted a youngish manager to give time to build a team. I genuinely believe part of that is why he is still here. Even if a small part. Pardew has had the team in good form as much as bad before the beginning of this season even if the performances were not attractive. (Moderate first half a season, good second season resulting in Europa, woeful third season, followed by a very impressive first half of season and abysmal second half)

    Free advertising?

    He owns the club and bailed it out. Why shouldn’t he get a bit of free exposure. I would. The club still owes Ashley money that will in all likelihood never be repaid its an eyesore but it is not damaging us.

    Not buying players

    Have stated on numerous occasions they want a self-sufficient club. No different to most prem teams. Yes Southampton and arsenal do it better but tottenham don’t spend above their means anymore, even man united don’t and Everton never have. If you got nothing but abuse from supporters having put money in to a bad investment to save it knowing there would never be any remote in in their eyes because washed up Keegan left and we sold andy Carroll for ridiculous money, why would you have any inclinations to put your own money into a club. W may have sold Cabaye and debuchy to cover this summer but there is certainly not a huge wad of cash sitting in a bank to splash. The club only entered profit two years ago and the profit was measly. Once any bank funds are spent that is it gone for good. And have you guys forgotten the investment in the academy? Ashley does not steal money from the club, he does not even take a salary from it. Any money there to be stolen is pennies in comparison to his retail empire.

    Lastly Thatcher was the 80s southerners do not have an agenda against the north. In fact the only people that seem to care about regionalism are the northerner a. He is not trying to bankrupt this club to spite us. He may be filthy rich but he’s not rich enough to loose what would likely amount to about £200m or near enough all in for the sake of his ego. His lack of communication with the fans goes some way to support that.

    Yes it was a mistake hiring Wise.

    Managerial appointments have been very questionable too.

    Not signing a 20 goal a season proven striker is a massive shortfall.

    The lack of communication with the fans is a huge error.

    Banning the press is ridiculous.

    But all in all I believe these are part misjudgement and part lack of empathy for the plight of the newcastle fan rather than personal vendetta against the city of newcastle who have never shown any semblance of gratitude for steadying a sinking ship (which we were before he bought the club). Maybe he should have refused to bankroll us with colocini’s wage packet along with barton, Nolan, jonas et all in the championship and let us rot.

    I think ashley has got it totally wrong but I can’t blame him for the lack of respect for the fans who have never respected him. I am in full support of the protests against pardew but let’s face it guys you all know the anger won’t stop there. Even if we appointed a top draw manager Ashley would never get the credit.

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  • Jarra

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07BXA9LF1k

    Sir Bobby Robson’s last public appearance
    26th July 2009 – a charity football match in aid of the Sir Bobby Robson Foundation. This is his last public appearance. Sir Bobby passed away 5 days later. …

    Jarra Brown I posted this because it reminded me of when I was so proud to support my home town club, Rest in Peace Sir Bobby Robson and feel ashamed those who have ripped the heart out of our club

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  • geordielad880

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #4

    Is it just me or did it look like cabella is sick already, the difference between when he first played and against southampton was unreal, his body langauge was not good at all, not surprised really, with the tactics pardew uses, cabella isnt and never has been a winger, he plays right or left of a front three, normally right, i still think in the premiership he will be best playing as a no 10, especially in de jongs absence,

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  • Go toon gooooo

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #5

    Frank De Boer is not a proven story.We don’t want another slayer on the posts in the future 🙂 But as someone said sometimes the risk is worth.If he came here good luck but Roberto Di Matteo is far the best option.

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  • Sliema

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #6

    Di Matteo is completely unproven. A billion times better than Pardew admittedly. But he’s still a poor choice.

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #7

    Bungholio just scored an OG for toffees

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  • Thump

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #8

    I’d have Di Matteo but all I remember of his playing style is all-out-defence. De Boer would be an absolute dream, though.

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  • dazzler

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #9

    Thump, I think the all out defence I remember was a tactical choice which is why he now has a champions league trophy to his name.. Thats the only I can remember of his management style though so not really fair for me to comment. DeBoer is the perfect choice by a mile but unlikely

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  • sweendog

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #10

    None of them .. We need an attacking manager .. Benitez and de Boer are the best .. But both seem like a pipe dream .. But Ashley must see the chance of becoming bigger than spurs again .. Who are strangely estimated to be worth 1 billion ..

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  • thevirus

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #11

    I’m with firebug non of the above to be honest I would try and get Benitez , he’s known as the tinker man but he won’t have many players to tinker with if he come to newcastle , has a proven track record of winning trophies and knows the premiership

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #12

    not sure he would come not sure what sort of manager he is would any1 take lee clark as assistant when and if we get a new manager

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  • geordielad880

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #13

    —————————-KRUL

    JANMAAT——COLLO——–WILLO—–HAIDARA

    ——————TIOTE—————ANITA
    —————————COLBACK

    —————————CABELLA
    ————RIVIERE——————–GOUFFRAN

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Comment #14

    Go toon gooooo
    September 18, 2014

    Won’t happen mid season but I think we could convince De Boer in the summer.

    He’s name dropped us as a sleeping giant and stated he wants to manage in the premier league.

    I don’t think it’ a risk too much.

    Ajax play very good football and I think many of our players will like his style. Janmaat, de jong and anita are all schooled in the dutch way through and through that is why Anita can’t play for us.

    Rivière used to play in a nice passing system at Monaco dropping deep with runners past him to play to.

    I think too many English fans hype up the league far too much. The standard is slipping greatly as other leagues are more sophisticated.

    It’s stuck in its ways with traditional football men getting jobs over fotball philosophers. All focus is on how many kilometres players clock in a game rather than smart movement.

    On the continent youth teams are coached to develop technicality, they spend more time in front of the chalk board and that is why they produce a higher calibre of player than England.

    De boar would actually be a perfect fit for newcastle under this regime. He could whip the academy into shape as Ajax managers are renowned for taking a hands on approach with the youth set-up and he’d foster a more intelligent, calmer and attractive style of football.

    It wouldn’t be overnight but given a chance he could do it I reckon.

    Still unconvinced by RDM and we all moan about Pardews defensive tendencies. RDM is well known for his defensive football.

    sherwood is completely unproven and looked out of control. Don’t think he could cope with our fans.

    Moyes would be a safe option but the football would be woeful. He’d keep us mid table challenging for Europe once every 10 years. I like moyes but I think the football world is progressing and he can’t keep up.

    Malky mackaye would be a decent vanilla shout. Wouldn’t do anything special but would probably do better than pardew.

    Can’t comment on gaultier.

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  • Beatroll25

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #15

    Thomas Tuchel

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #16

    geordielad880
    September 18, 2014

    This or a diamond with socks right and tiote as anchor would be great against the lesser teams. Good for countering and stretching play.

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #17

    Go toon goooo

    I agree with dazzler. I think de boer would be perfect and would thrive with us under ashley.

    You look at managers similar to de boer who were quite unproven and have gone to clubs and turned them around.
    Martinez – Ok he won an FA cup with them, but they were always in relegation battles and eventually got relegated.
    Rodgers – 11th in his first and only season with swansea in the PL not exactly setting the league a light but why did liverpool choose him? His playing style.
    Pochettino – 9th in the league, same with rodgers spurs chose him because they were confident his playing style would be welcomed by their fans and would be much more effective with their squad.

    These are the exact reasons why FDB simply has to be our first choice, he can be our rodgers/martinez, Young and dynamic managers are rapidly being snapped up by more and more PL clubs and we need to move along with the times, and take this opportunity to get one in de boer. No more dinosaur managers like McClaren/Sherwood/Bruce/Di matteo/moyes/pulis

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #18

    Must be nice watching your team get bodies in the box and actually build play up from the back like Everton do .

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  • oldbobaycliffe

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #19

    lgfuad21-arsenal only changed to the emerates when they built a new ground and the money from the sponsors has helped with the cosi of the build we already had ours.ashley has supposed to have put 150million into the clubs finances say he was luckyenough to get 2 per cent interest he would get 3million at best but if sports direct were to pay say 10 million we could get another player a year or ashley could reduce his debt. i can understand why our fans with season tickets go to the matches but i do not understand anyone guing to watch a cup match when you have been told that the club don,t want to progress in either cup games you wouldn,t bet on a boxer to win if his manager tells all and sundry that he was going to take a dive in the first round.you know you are just wasting your money.i have always wondered why our club had not been fined by the league and the fa for deliberatly fielding a weakened team

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #20

    Hit the nail on the head there LGFUAD

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #21

    beermonkey
    September 18, 2014

    Why Clark. Because he is a Geordie or because you are impressed by his footballing brain?

    We already have a geordie for an assistant. That’s going great.

    Don’t care where they are from and who they played for as long as they have the chops.

    Would take gus Poyet straight from Sunderland if that were an option.

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #22

    BPC

    Don’t forget pressing high up the pitch and seeing your players with a hunger and desire to win the ball back asap

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #23

    Pardew has been given chance after chance. I do believe that because Pardew was given so much time to get things right, it will work in our favour when finding a new manager.

    Some managers will not consider positions if they think they will not be given time… you cannot say Pardew was not given enough time.

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  • jayphoto

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #24

    Think Di matteo would be a terrible choice! Yes he may have won champions league but he also came 6th with a ridiculously strong chelsea team! Took less points thsn AVB in same amount of games!
    Lost his WBA job for being too negative With tactics! Wouldn’t touch him tbh!
    I like De Boer! Failing that i’d take Sherwood! With this regime We need a manager proven in bringing through younger players and to keep fans onside we need a manager who plays attacking football!
    Was so refreshing to see Gary monk set his team out to attack at stamford bridge last week!

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  • LGFUAD21

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #25

    oldbobaycliffe
    September 18, 2014

    Arsenal got part funding in exchange for naming rights with emirates. They spent years paying it off but the commercial revenues it has afforded the club is why they can now go and spend £40m on Ozil and not bat an eye. Then go and sign Sanchez for £35 the next season.

    People thought arsenal were fizzling, they are just about to rev it up a notch after laying dormant among the top 4. They’ll win a title in the next 3-4 years thanks to their astute club management from appointments to managing of finances.

    Highbury was just as iconic as st James. It was a brave decision that a lot were against but they are better off for it.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #26

    @ james

    I have wanted Pardew gone for two years now and was laughed off the blog by some for wanting Martinez as manager after he left Wigan .

    Pardew is older yet Martinez could run circles around the bloke tactically, and I can only imagine how Martinez would have had us playing with Debuchy & Santon playing as high up the pitch as Baines & Coleman do, pressing teams & attacking teams even away from home .

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #27

    Sherwood isn’t tactically nous, we need a proper tactician like de boer. What he’s done with ajax is phenomenal, watching them against teams like city/psg/barca they compete with the european heavyweights at the same level simply because they play such an attractive and effective style of football which makes them so hard to beat

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #28

    As far as managers go I would have had Garcia or Martinez before they were snapped up .

    However now I would have De Boar as first choice and Moyes as second . Anything other than Pardew is a blessing IMO ( except Pulis 😉 )

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #29

    Big Pappa, right on.

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #30

    BPC
    I was the same mate with martinez.
    We may have missed the boat with martinez however there is a boat still waiting with de boer on it, we simply cannot miss that one or i’ll guarantee you it will come back to haunt us.

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #31

    It’s one of the most genius moves my modern managers is that they handle flair players like HBA so they press the opposition so high up the pitch along with the full backs, so you end up getting more possession so flair players like HBA can concentrate on their attacking game rather than tracking back.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #32

    I also think Gouffran could be our Naismith if he wasn’t playing as a secondary LB .

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    Comment #33

    I’m going to put my list of candidates out there for close scrutiny, feel free to have a quick mooch over them and pick your ideal replacement for
    Pards.

    Vinny Jones (Hollywood factor- He will be able to get spielberg in to CGI our matches to make it look like we’re winning)

    Dion Dublin (coz his managerial credentials keep dublin and dublin and dublin etc)

    Papa Bouba diop (interesting name)

    Jimmy ‘the chin’ Hill (Knows where the hairnet is, complete with chin-strap)

    Stan collymore (knows how to beat a harmless defence)

    Francis Benali (Ample tash)

    Carlos Valderama (Can swap hair product with Colo and get him firing again)

    John Shaft (Just because he can)

    Ivan Campo (See Carlos Valderama)

    A piece of A4 paper with ‘manager’ written on (cheers to JT for this one)

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #34

    De Boer has just won 4 titles in a row from Ajax not winning it in years. He’s head and shoulders above a lot of the candidates.

    He plays a pressing style game and likes a 433 which some of us have been wanting for years.

    Exactly what I want to see. On a budget, a realistic choice, especially with his glowing quotes about us.

    It’s a no brainer now people like Garcia, Martinez and Benitez weren’t snapped up.

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #35

    As you can see, its a slow night…

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #36

    haha tang

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  • beermonkey

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #37

    LGFUAD21

    not cos he is a Geordie but he has played for us
    I would like Ferdinand to come and work with our strikers I know defoe credited him for the work he did with him
    I don’t care really where there from but if they are good enough and have a link to the club even better

    like I say I know nowt about clarks coaching or managing career he could be a good number 2 but lowsey manager been a few of them around

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  • JamesToon

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #38

    LR32

    Ajax can outplay anyone, they dominated barca and city. They are a joy to watch.

    I just wish fans would make their feelings known to ashley about who we want and actually have banners with de boer etc.

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  • lesh

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #39

    Were Ashley to recruit any of the world’s top managers, some fans just wouldn’t be satisfied.

    What is it about Newcastle United carry the support of fans who are generally never satisfied?

    This unrest has been there for years – long before Ashley and the myth of being the supposed best fans in the world is fast spreading throughout football.

    Which manager would would seriously contemplate taking charge?

    Any ideas and under what conditions?

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  • Harley

    Sep 18, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #40

    Wow LGFU

    Yours enjoying your posting tonight mate.

    A lot of great points but I think you were being a bit kind to Ashley.

    I agree the club should be self sufficient and I also agree that why would he put his own money in to a club when he knows the fans hate him so much.

    But this season was his chance to prove he will invest the clubs money back in to the team. And by estimating (I could be wrong) there would have still been 20-30 million left over to spend on a desperately needed striker and cb.

    2 signings that would have transformed the team and the fans attitudes.

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