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89 comments so far
Go toon gooooo
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM
Comment #1Go Demba goooo.
catchy in norway
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:54 PM
Comment #29catchy in norway // Sep 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM
15 minutes of football
that’s all we got today
short changed again , happy clappers very happy tonight , pardew hoop kissing pricks
dazzler
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:54 PM
Comment #3LGFUAD,
Now was that so difficult? 😉
Apology accepted. I can see another’s view point and respect as long as it is reciprocated.
While I agree the lack of long ball football is a plus, the short passing doesn’t seem to work. We created half chances but not much more.
This for me was the case today, as it was against villa, and against palace.
To be honest, I’d rather we had a big strong target man up front so we Could go long once in a while to at least show a sort of plan b.
Nothing from today’s game showed change for me though, we were saved by a striker fighting for his place and a central midfielder who I think is angling for a January move (a la cabaye).
ROSHAN MAGPIE
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM
Comment #4JACK BUTLER
I’m sure nothing will change till ashley leaves
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:56 PM
Comment #510LGFUAD21 // Sep 20, 2014 at 6:54 PM
Dazzler.
Strong number nine is a must. Rivière is pushed off it too easy and snatches at chances.
He’ll be ok against teams we can stretch but struggle against compact defences like today.
I think the passing game can work we just need to up the tempo and keep it tighter in the final third when were being shit out.
Arsenal do that very well when they want to.
ROSHAN MAGPIE
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:57 PM
Comment #6I have lost all the hope of pardew getting sacked this guy has some incredible luck with him
JackButler
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:57 PM
Comment #7ROSHAN MAGPIE
you are right mate and the way the fans seem to have embraced apathy he’s here for a long, long time as we don’t have the fight to stand up to him and so he’ll just continue to do whatever the hell he wants as there’s no recourse
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM
Comment #812Average_Contents // Sep 20, 2014 at 6:55 PM
And there you go with the pro-fatty stuff again.
I’m hardly celebrating. I’m at home on a Saturday night on this blog.
Average_Contents
Sep 20, 2014 at 6:59 PM
Comment #9Like I said your a sad little kunt!
Throwing insults around then backtracking once you realised what the majority of the blog thought about the game, so I suggest you release your horrible fingers from your keyboard and crawl back up fatty’s arse. Don’t like my posts then don’t read them but you’ve been shown for what you are. A fcuking snake in the grass.
Last post to you so put what you want as I won’t be responding.
dazzler
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:02 PM
Comment #10LGFUAD,
I think drop the number 10, play Sissoko in a 3 man midfield, tiote holding and Colback and Sissoko playing box to box.
Stick cisse up top with cabella and gouffran either side.
Same players, different strategy but it would work and already did work for pardew. Better support for the defence meaning the full backs can get forward without panic.
And and an Andy Carroll type with someone who can cross like Barton used to on the bench for the second half if it just isn’t working for us.
That would work for me. But cisse isn’t that target man, if anything he looked leaner, and faster today
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:02 PM
Comment #11Average
Again please provide quotes of backtracking. Or are you still looking for quotes to support your pro pardew accusations.
By resorting to insults do you mean by saying things like “you’re a sad little kkunt”?
My jibe about your intelligence is becoming less of an insult and more of a fact ever time you post.
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:03 PM
Comment #12Dazzler
Yeah we do miss big Andy sometimes.
And Barton had unreal delivery for us.
Go toon gooooo
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:03 PM
Comment #13ROSHAN MAGPIE
The luck is not the reason.The real reason for his survival dates a long time ago when Chris Hughton was sacked without a reason and Pardew was consciously thrown into Newcastle United team by Mike Ashley,Smashley,Mashley or whatever.
welshgeordie9
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:09 PM
Comment #14I’m surprised average hasn’t got any teeth left the amount of times he bites on this blog.
dazzler
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM
Comment #15I do think having someone like that, a goal scoring big bastard to bring off the bench would give us options, pardew thought should was that..he was not. I reckon Colback could be that Barton type passer if we had the option for him up top. Unfortunately all our strikers are short, or skinny or both so we are limited
toonking
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM
Comment #16TADS, dazzler, LFG and ilovetoon.
this seems to be getting worse and worse every week, people fighting with each other over about how good a result is.
both sides to the arguement are correct really.
LFG and Ilovetoon are right to be positive because what today does is it gives us that bit hope that we might have a goal scorer in our team.
the pardew about pardew being a poor manager planning forward play is true but the part he has very little effect on is how we are not scoring goals and are conceding so many.
in all the time pardew has been here as manager this club have managed to bring in just 1 CB (who has now left) with XP and of those we have got not a single one is good enough for premiership games, you can score as many goals as you like but that doesn’t stop you conceding goals and what pardew can’t do is cause players to accidentally loose the ball.
the other part i think pardew gets far too much critism for is the state our CF are in. midfielders and defenders can score some goals but the most important player for goals is strikers and in all the time ashley has been at this club i’ve only seen 1 striker brought in with a goal scoring ability, 2 if you include ba who is no longer here.
so it’s ok giving pardew lots of critism but how can any manager change things when every single year we seem to not bother getting the strikers or CB we have been so desperate for?
it’s no use saying well go demand ashley spend money because shearer and kevin keegan were both not able to do that lots of other club manager have walked out, owners are more powerful they are the one who gives the job so it’s like a person telling his manager to improve work conditions.
bring in a manager and start improving the academy, well that would be all well and good but dummett was allowed game time and the blog wasn’t happy and really the foreign players will be coming to a whole new league.
dazzler
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM
Comment #17Should = Shola pfft
WWSBRD
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:14 PM
Comment #18Rebirth of Cisse? Please lord say it’s true
Ron Knee
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:16 PM
Comment #19Liverpool look nothing special.
Mickalonius
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:19 PM
Comment #20Spot on ToonKing
La Fée Verte
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:21 PM
Comment #21Someone called Beatroll25 calling fans for chanting ‘toon, toon barmy army’ (in earlier thread) – ffs people like him calling the fans yet he doesn’t even know what they’re saying. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Ron Knee
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM
Comment #22Green Fairy?
the ledge
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:25 PM
Comment #23Have to laugh at some on here Bobby Robson will be turning in his grave a draw at home to hull a good result just show s how far we have falling
toonarmydownsouth
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM
Comment #24@ScottForbes86: Papiss Cissé’s interview on Sky –> http://t.co/cYxBieqzsL – interesting response to final question #NUFC http://t.co/50XxOD9l5u
Can’t figure out if this is a strange response or just saying the club is United
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:26 PM
Comment #25toonking
September 20, 2014
Watch out. That comment is blasphemous to many here.
Jokes aside I agree and disagree.
Pardews hands are a little tied with his options but at the same time it was suicide playing cisse on the wing and then when he did get to play up top he had reverted to long ball football which is not cisse strength.
At Freiburg his team mates created space for him by pulling defenders out of position he used to play in the shoulder and get between the centre backs.
I think cisse problem was that his confidence clearly went when he got “demoted” to the wing. He then stopped getting ahead of his man when he was payed up top.
He stopped getting into the type of position he did today to score his second goal.
Pardews clearly encourages his striker to drop back to help the midfield but he’s old fashioned and likes his poachers and big strikers. Those type of strikers are generally not suitable for that role. You need one that can run with the ball and pass as well as a midfielder.
Cisse is best left up top and encourage to play on the shoulder of the defence.
A decent striking coach would have corrected these little issues regarding positional play.
That said a manager can only set a team up based on what players he has at his disposal. He can also only form a game plan on guessing how the opposition will play . It’s difficult to change that if the game doesn’t pan out as you thought until half time. And that’s only 15 mins to change a plan that has been practiced for a week prior to the game.
I’m just hoping that cisses time out of the team will have re-focused him. He’s able to play with less pressure now and I think the players we have now will probably work better with him as Gouffran, janmaat, cabella and socks prefer to run and defences rather than down flanks to deliver a ball in.
Gouffran is decent he just needs to get into the box more and play the role of second striker as much as possible. His contribution will improve over time if he does that more.
dazzler
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:27 PM
Comment #26Toonking,
I think the issues in our squad could be addressed (temporarily) by fresh ideas. Ideas that I think pardew is out of. Even if his excuses, lies and other problems weren’t there and he was a hoots type character we’d still be thinking it’s time for him to go.
All I want is for a manager to shut up, accept responsibility and amend their approach as necessary. Pardew can’t do that anymore, he honestly looks lost on that touchline and deflects all blame onto his flavour of the month. This month being the fans.
I was willing to give pardew a run this season but already he has shown he can’t change approach tactically, we may knock it around a bit better but we are still too defensive with a poor defence. Plus rather than saying he got it wrong, it’s somehow our fault for paying to see the team. Enough is enough now, I would prefer him to leave and bring in his replacement in time to ensure cisse keeps on scoring rather than potentially returning to type under pardew.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:27 PM
Comment #27Pardew can be as smug as he likes for now but it will only be a couple of matches until we get turned over again. We are far far too fragile under his management, and when it isn’t going right he doesn’t have a plan B.
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:28 PM
Comment #28the ledge
September 20, 2014
I’ve not seen anybody say it was a great result.
Some have been saying, me included, that the performance was improved.
In my opinion I think it wasn’t a bad performance and we were unlucky with the result. We were dominant and the better team for the best part.
Toon-Prodigy
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:29 PM
Comment #29I still hold the same thoughts. 70% of the reason we struggle is down to Ashley and his transfer structure. The in’s and out’s and lack of investment etc.
This team is lacking quality in depth, Injuries affect this team far too much. It’s not good enough.
That said. I was pleased to see the team show some drive and spirit today it was much much needed. I also enjoyed the team fighting for the manager. That puts alot of doubts and rumours to bed in that sense.
Im also glad Pardew has took notice of people pulling his comments And interviews apart. Hopefully i won’t have to read anymore bollox about them on this blog. As much as I hate him licking Ashleys hoop, he does have players and a football club to protect. He obviously can’t speak his mind about the terrible lack of quality throughout the squad and poor structure in place.
A 2-0 defeat would of made me ill. Thankgod we showed fight and drive and got something out the game.
We need De Jong and Santon back in the team as quick as possible if we want to finish mid-table this season. We need all the quality and experience we can get in this 1st eleven. The squad isn’t good enough for anything else. Players adapting, alot are average and youngins who need time.
colwell
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM
Comment #30Wow we drew 2-2 with Hull brilliant, at least next season we’ll rip teams apart again in the championship.
We should NOT be celebrating a draw at home to fcuking Hull man.
Pards saying we needed this for Jonas as well, bet he is overwhelmed we drew at home against Hull for him.
BuckLuck
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM
Comment #31the ledge
100% true. 2-2 against Hull at home is a poor result. Fact
Pardew is below average. Fact
Still people want him here. That’s lack of intelligence. Fact!
the ledge
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM
Comment #32Tooking like the great job parshite done with tevez pardew is out of his depth he was at Southampton Charlton west ham and with us I will always support the team but there is no point being blind to parshite he is going to take us down
colwell
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM
Comment #33I wonder after 10 games no wins if Pards will finally be gone? we won’t win any except maybe Leicester at home, still think he’ll be gone very soon.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM
Comment #34Especially not when Hull were so so poor, I was shocked at how bad they were.
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM
Comment #35Geremi’s Prosthetic Leg Fund
September 20, 2014
I like to think we are the wildcard in the league.
Well get hammered by Burnley and then do something like thrash chelski.
Truth be told I think today’s performance and result, whether you think it was an IMPROVEMENT (note emphasis on that word) had little to do with pardew.
A lot of pundits have picked up on something that I agree with. It’s always about how we start. We are terrible at dealing with going a goal down. I suppose that’s why I am not so negative about today’s result as we showed determination to get back in the game.
Those two things combined are why Southampton happened.
With pardew it’s always been a case of momentum. We get a great result and he has been able to sustain it. We get thrashed and he struggles to stop the rot. It’s always extremes results wise.
His biggest flaw is his lack of a plan b. we see his strategy fail week in week out and he rarely makes a change to the system.
dazzler
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM
Comment #36I don’t get why pardew doesn’t take a firmer hand in transfers. Such as telling Carr the way he wants the team to play and thus find him players who fit his system, still looking at resale value. He just seems to accept whatever he’s given
the ledge
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:36 PM
Comment #3727LGFUAD21 and so it should be improved we were at home against hull every pundit from Lawro letiss said it today stay away from match day or nothing will change but unfortunately the clappers no best and that’s why we are in the situation
toon kk
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:37 PM
Comment #38Buck luck
what you say about Pardew is true but our squad isn’t good enough, fact.
Munster Mag
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:37 PM
Comment #39Thats better. Well done cisse. Pardews post match comments were fair but doubtless the lunatic fringe will deliberately find some form of arrogance or something in them. Cisse is a serious finisher. We need to find ways to release him. I hear the protest was a bit feeble?
LGFUAD21
Sep 20, 2014 at 7:37 PM
Comment #40colwell
September 20, 2014
Agree. I don’t think pardew is as bulletproof as people think. He’s bought himself an extra week but ashley will get shot of him if we are genuinely in threat of relegation.
I’m appalled by our record but 5 games in you can hardly say anyone is in a relegation scrap yet.
Just wish the decision was taken in the summer.